Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-09 Thread Valiant8086
...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Ryan, Sound files do not compress very much when zipped, and usually creating the install file does compress everything to as small

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-09 Thread Valiant8086
: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi. Yes, I prefer LZMA2. It shrinks my 89mb package into around 74mb. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Willem Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-05 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas, Yeah when zipped the distribution size was about 70 percent of the original size of the files. Of course mp3 files etc can be 30 percent or even less depending on quality, but since I am using DirectX I am also sticking with wave files. BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim,

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-05 Thread william lomas
does the game have the same levels as before in beta 14 On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, Yeah when zipped the distribution size was about 70 percent of the original size of the files. Of course mp3 files etc can be 30 percent or even less depending on quality,

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-05 Thread dark
: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Hayden, Well, personally I do notice some reduction in quality. It is very slight, but it takes some of the pitch out of the sounds, and it isn't quite as sharp/clear as a *.wav file. I suppose the fact I am a musician, am use to listening to tone and pitch

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi William, I'm not sure what you are asking here, but version beta 14 which I released yesterday has the same levels as beta 13 if that is what you are asking. Once I am sure the new engine is stable I'll start adding levels 3, 4, 5, etc to the game so I can get it done in the next couple of

[Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Thomas, I don't think you should compromise making the MOTA smaller. In today's world, if a person doesn't have a high speed internet connection then they will be missing out on plenty of things more than just large games, such as digital books on the BARD site and podcasts. You could

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Matheus r.c. souza
computer is 4 gb / 16 gb depending on what game it is. -Mensagem original- De: Hayri Tulumcu ha...@ka-net.dk Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Segunda, 4 de Outubro de 2010 16:26 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size ore you can use a download manager called Free

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Ryan Chou
, 4 de Outubro de 2010 16:26 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size ore you can use a download manager called Free Download Manager. you can get it from here: http://files2.freedownloadmanager.org/fdminst3.exe and it is accessible with JAWS. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Phil Vlasak
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size might I suggest a compressed zip file or something? On 10/7/10, Matheus r.c. souza an...@bol.com.br wrote: yeah, i agree with you guys. i'm also using free download manager here, it's pretty accessible. talking

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Willem
p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Ryan, Sound files do not compress very much when zipped, and usually creating the install file does compress everything to as small

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Phil, In my temporary spanker folder the 118 wave files, the 1 little text file, a tiny batch file and the spanker executable file add up to 2,401,704 bytes. When zipped they equal 1,703,313 bytes. And then making that zip file into a self extracting zip file makes it1,765,376 bytes.

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim, Smile. That's all? That's pretty small potatoes compared to the current release of Mysteries of the Ancients. Beta 14 is almost 350 MB fully installed and even compressed using Inno Setup it is around 170 MB. The Linux setup looks like it will be around 250 MB because tar doesn't appear to

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Thomas, I suggest bzip2, or apparently xz. gzip's compression ratios aren't all that great. Hope this helps, Zack. On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 06:53:28PM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jim, Smile. That's all? That's pretty small potatoes compared to the current release of Mysteries of the

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Charles Rivard
PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Thomas, I suggest bzip2, or apparently xz. gzip's compression ratios aren't all that great. Hope this helps, Zack. On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 06:53:28PM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jim, Smile. That's all? That's pretty small potatoes compared

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Ryan Chou
are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Thomas, I suggest bzip2, or apparently xz. gzip's compression ratios aren't all

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Well, one purpose of using any zip tool is simply to pack multipl files into one single archive that can be downloaded. If you are going to use an archive like zip, bz2, gz, whatever you might as well find the one with the best compression as well. It is not just the people downloading

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Zack, Thanks for the suggestion. Next time I think I'll definitely try using bzip2 to compress the file. As you say gzip isn't very good. Unfortunately, I'm about 75% through uploading the Linux MOTA beta 14 file, and I'd hate to stop it, rezip the thing, and upload again after it has been

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ryan, Actually, Inno Setup, the Windows setup program i use, has its own built-in compression which is pretty good. It cut the install down from close to 350 MB to around 170 MB which is fairly good. I'm afraid you can't get much better than that for compression. As for the Linux side I'm still

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, No worries. Everyone seams to be in favor of keeping the sounds etc uncompressed for maximum quality so that's what they are going to get. I've already built the setup packages for Windows and Linux and am busy trying to get the website ready for public release. I'll naturally let everyone

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Hayden Presley
: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Ryan, Actually, Inno Setup, the Windows setup program i use, has its own built-in compression which is pretty good. It cut the install down from close to 350 MB to around 170 MB which is fairly good. I'm afraid you can't get much better than that for compression

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Hayden Presley
- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Willem Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 11:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi Phil. This all depends on which compression the installer uses, though multiple layers

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden, Well, personally I do notice some reduction in quality. It is very slight, but it takes some of the pitch out of the sounds, and it isn't quite as sharp/clear as a *.wav file. I suppose the fact I am a musician, am use to listening to tone and pitch, something like that is more apparent

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Charles Rivard
I hadn't thought of that at all. Good points. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Well, yes and no. If we are comparing it to the average audio game size it would be quite big. However, as it has been pointed out before most mainstream games are extremely huge compared to Mysteries of the Ancients. I think Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness is something like 2 GB fully