Re: [Audyssey] the keeper of the keys - Re: What has happened toLiam?

Charles Rivard Mon, 01 Sep 2014 22:45:07 -0700

With the labeler, all you have to do is to line the desired character upwith a notch just in front of the wheel and squeeze the trigger. When yourelease the trigger, the tape advances into position to emboss the nextcharacter. Turn the wheel until the next desired character is lined up withthe notch and repeat the procedure. If the cutter on the labeler doesn'tcut well, use a pair of scissors. They are very easy to use.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the keeper of the keys - Re: What has happenedtoLiam?



I would beg to differ on that. I'm not terribly fast with a slate, but
with the labeler, you have to make sure each letter is centered just
right, then press down on the trigger part. Then you have to hope that
the label cuts properly, because sometimes they don't. Either that, or
I've just had to use really crappy labelers.
In my experience, the process is just as cumbersome as using a slate.

On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson <bpeterson2...@cableone.net> wrote:

At least with a labeler it's not painfully slow.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 12:37 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] the keeper of the keys - Re: What has happened toLiam?


I taught myself to use one, and they are far more useful to a blind person
than having someone else write and read info back to you.  The method is
very slow, but you can use it without sighted assistance, which means
independence.  Brailling product keys onto Dymo tape, which will not wear
out very easily, can be done with a slate and stylus, a brailler, or a
machine made specifically for embossing onto Dymo tape.

Lastly, I wonder how many people caught the reference in the subject line.
(grin)

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From: "Bryan Peterson" <bpeterson2...@cableone.net>
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Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?


Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to
learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people.



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Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
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From: loriduncan
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 8:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?

I've never written like that before, only ever used brail, but if theywerewritten down by a sighted person, at least there would still be a recordof

them, and I live with family too, so have someone to rread them out.
Perhaps, Liam could come up with some form of account system to register
his
games, like Aprone has for Swamp.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 10:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?

If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their
writing?  A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of
heavy
paper.

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From: "loriduncan" <lori_dunca...@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?

Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in

that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more

trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a dockingstation,


and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my
computer.  What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory

stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to asingle


usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have
them in the uk.  I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products
which are used.  I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the
keys are jammed lol.  The only other way I can think of to back up my
keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?

Hi Lori,

That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should
always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something
very important.

for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US
dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep
in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like
product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way
I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can
consider something similar in the future.

I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't
the responsibility of the company or individual who sells  you a
product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like
Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it
is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that
information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you
don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get
new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't
quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is
why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and
just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement
even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare.

On 8/30/14, loriduncan <lori_dunca...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi, it is totally wrong.  I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last
year,

and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c
drive.
The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get
it
replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into

the

computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing
everything

anyway.

What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys
allowed

per year.

From Lori.


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