HI all I know self destruct is not a well known game on this list, but if anyone can help me work out a strategy how to fight the urchin lord it will help a lot. I think its not necesary to know the game in order to help me work out a strategy. The principle is very simple, I just can't seem to beat him. I beat him on easy difficulty, but I'm having a problem beating him on normal. Its a 20 by 20 battle field. Spacebar tells me my health and the urchin lord's health. R tells me which room I'm in; actually its not a room; its just referring to the space where I am on THE battle field as a room. 20 BY 20 MEANS THERE IS A TOTAL OF 400 SPACES ON THE BATTLE FIELD SO R WILL TEL ME FOR EXAMPLE 300. There seems to be no way to kill the urchin lord by hitting the control key which fires my gun, separately. IN other words, if I hold down the control key i have a better chance killing the urchin lord; that's how I beat him on easy. It sometimes happens that I hit the urchin lord without he hitting me but that happens very seldom. Sometimes when I fire at him I hear him howl but then at the same time he hit me. Most of the times the moment I fire at him, he will at the same time fire at me. Each time he fires his gun he gets me; the urchin lord never misses. What I do at the start of the game: I first gather all the health packs on the battle field before fighting the urchin lord. when I'm at the top left edge of the battle field I hold down my right arrow key and my character moves with one enormous speed till it reaches the right edge and while moving picking up the health packs. so I'm moving in this way through the whole battle field picking up all the health packs by holding down each arrow key. The urchin lord cannot hit me if I move so quickly to pick up all the health packs. Does anyone agree so far with my way of game play? Because there are health packs scattered on the battle field. When I'm teleported to the battle field I start with 500 hp. I first tried fighting the urchin lord while picking up health packs,but that didn't work at all. when I first pick up all the health packs and then fight him, he also kills me each time on normal difficulty but the battle continues for a bit longer than if I try fighting him before picking up all the health packs. When I try fighting him before picking up all the health packs, its about 5 shots and I'm dead. After picking up all health packs I have about 12000 hp. Each time the urchin lord hits me he drains me of 90 hp and he starts with 800 hp. Each time I fire at himI drain him of only 25 hp. How can I accurately track the urchin lord and get a good amount of hits on him without him firing me too much? ON easy when I beated him I had 700 hp left. Will anyone be able to give me any pointers based on the info I gave here? When I hold down the control key my gun fires; it seems as if I have unlimited ammo in the urchinlord battle. But the moment I press an arrow key my gun stops firing. It only helps holding down the control key as long as I'm not moving with the arrow keys. Since this game is working with sappi, I go to the control pannel prior starting the game and I change the speed of sappi there Because if I don't set sappi to speak very fast, I cannot hear my health and the urchin lord's health in time before it hits me. When sapi is set to very fast, I can sometimes hear my health and the urchin lord's health before it gets me. Btw why they call him a lord is beyond me. Urchin is a pesky character taken from a main stream game but why calling the boss a lord is really beyond me. The word lord in daily english can either refer to a land lord, the owner of property, or the word lord can also be another word forGod. Why they call the bossin this game a lord is beyond me. Give it a try if anyone can work out a strategy for me thanks _______________________________________________ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.