Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-23 Thread Angela Lerma

I use NVDA with a client that I have.  If you want help write me off list.

Angela


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35


Dave,

I've heard of a handful of people using NVDA, as well as Windows Eyes
and various versions of Jaws with all of the clients.  Unfortunately,
it seems to be dependent on your exact configuration and getting the
right scripts; in that regard, I don't know that I can help you.
Perhaps some of the other players can though.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:22 PM, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

Which clients are regarded as the best for use with a screen reader?
I'm using jfw 11 and downloaded a client can't remember it's name and
it was almost unusable I didn't get any feedback and had to
continuously use my jfw cursor to find out anything. I'm also
interested if any of these clients work with nvda?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/22/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Hi.

sounds awsome, always nice to have new stuff to discover and new spells 
and

skills to use.

Just a quick question, how fast a connection do I need? I'm currently at 
my

parents' who have a more minimal broardband package than I do, something
like about a speed of 4 or 5 mb rather than the 17-20 I get in my flat.

Will this be okay for alterean?

if so, i'll look at installing the soundpack on my laptop so that I can 
play

here.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:17 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35



Everyone,

I'd like to announce a summertime expansion for Alter Aeon! We're
raising the maximum level to 35 in each class, and each class gets a
new spell or skill at that level. We've also added skill boosting
equipment for thieves and warriors, similar to spell boosting
equipment that casters have always had.

Everyone is welcome, so if you're new to the game feel free to stop by
and check us out. For more information and soundpack downloads, see
our web site at:

http://www.alteraeon.com

For those of you who don't know anything about us, Alter Aeon is a
multiplayer text-based game with a lot of features and settings to
help make it blind-friendly. Over half our playerbase is blind or
visually impaired, and we have blind builders and staff helping to
expand and improve the game.

Thanks!

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-23 Thread Angela Lerma

Yes and that is one fantastic client package.

Angela


- Original Message - 
From: Oriol Gómez ogomez@gmail.com

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35


Hi,
you can use any screen reader with the mushclient package found at
http://oriolg.es/mush.php
By any screen reader I mean jaws, window eyes, NVDA or system access,
those are the major ones anyway.
Hth.

On 6/22/11, Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com wrote:

Dave,

I've heard of a handful of people using NVDA, as well as Windows Eyes
and various versions of Jaws with all of the clients.  Unfortunately,
it seems to be dependent on your exact configuration and getting the
right scripts; in that regard, I don't know that I can help you.
Perhaps some of the other players can though.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:22 PM, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hello,

Which clients are regarded as the best for use with a screen reader?
I'm using jfw 11 and downloaded a client can't remember it's name and
it was almost unusable I didn't get any feedback and had to
continuously use my jfw cursor to find out anything. I'm also
interested if any of these clients work with nvda?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/22/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Hi.

sounds awsome, always nice to have new stuff to discover and new spells
and
skills to use.

Just a quick question, how fast a connection do I need? I'm currently at
my
parents' who have a more minimal broardband package than I do, something
like about a speed of 4 or 5 mb rather than the 17-20 I get in my flat.

Will this be okay for alterean?

if so, i'll look at installing the soundpack on my laptop so that I can
play
here.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:17 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35



Everyone,

I'd like to announce a summertime expansion for Alter Aeon! We're
raising the maximum level to 35 in each class, and each class gets a
new spell or skill at that level. We've also added skill boosting
equipment for thieves and warriors, similar to spell boosting
equipment that casters have always had.

Everyone is welcome, so if you're new to the game feel free to stop by
and check us out. For more information and soundpack downloads, see
our web site at:

http://www.alteraeon.com

For those of you who don't know anything about us, Alter Aeon is a
multiplayer text-based game with a lot of features and settings to
help make it blind-friendly. Over half our playerbase is blind or
visually impaired, and we have blind builders and staff helping to
expand and improve the game.

Thanks!

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-23 Thread dark

Okay, I am thelok on there.
that's t h e l o k, if anyone wants to look me up.

I should be sorting sapi out this afternoon and fixing mush to work 
correctly so will be around soon.


All the best,

Dark.

- Original Message - 
From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35


Dark when you get a chance can you send a tell to Mathayas on Alter Aeon? 
That's me and I want to chat.


Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.10 portable.

On 6/22/2011 2:21 PM, Dennis Towne wrote:

Dark,

You can actually play the game using a dial up modem once you have the
client and/or soundpack downloaded.  Your parent's connection should
be fine :)

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:41 PM, darkd...@xgam.org  wrote:

Hi.

sounds awsome, always nice to have new stuff to discover and new spells 
and

skills to use.

Just a quick question, how fast a connection do I need? I'm currently at 
my

parents' who have a more minimal broardband package than I do, something
like about a speed of 4 or 5 mb rather than the 17-20 I get in my flat.

Will this be okay for alterean?

if so, i'll look at installing the soundpack on my laptop so that I can 
play

here.

All the best,

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-22 Thread dark

Hi.

sounds awsome, always nice to have new stuff to discover and new spells and 
skills to use.


Just a quick question, how fast a connection do I need? I'm currently at my 
parents' who have a more minimal broardband package than I do, something 
like about a speed of 4 or 5 mb rather than the 17-20 I get in my flat.


Will this be okay for alterean?

if so, i'll look at installing the soundpack on my laptop so that I can play 
here.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:17 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35



Everyone,

I'd like to announce a summertime expansion for Alter Aeon!  We're
raising the maximum level to 35 in each class, and each class gets a
new spell or skill at that level.  We've also added skill boosting
equipment for thieves and warriors, similar to spell boosting
equipment that casters have always had.

Everyone is welcome, so if you're new to the game feel free to stop by
and check us out.  For more information and soundpack downloads, see
our web site at:

http://www.alteraeon.com

For those of you who don't know anything about us, Alter Aeon is a
multiplayer text-based game with a lot of features and settings to
help make it blind-friendly. Over half our playerbase is blind or
visually impaired, and we have blind builders and staff helping to
expand and improve the game.

Thanks!

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-22 Thread David Mehler
Hello,

Which clients are regarded as the best for use with a screen reader?
I'm using jfw 11 and downloaded a client can't remember it's name and
it was almost unusable I didn't get any feedback and had to
continuously use my jfw cursor to find out anything. I'm also
interested if any of these clients work with nvda?

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/22/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi.

 sounds awsome, always nice to have new stuff to discover and new spells and
 skills to use.

 Just a quick question, how fast a connection do I need? I'm currently at my
 parents' who have a more minimal broardband package than I do, something
 like about a speed of 4 or 5 mb rather than the 17-20 I get in my flat.

 Will this be okay for alterean?

 if so, i'll look at installing the soundpack on my laptop so that I can play
 here.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:17 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35


 Everyone,

 I'd like to announce a summertime expansion for Alter Aeon!  We're
 raising the maximum level to 35 in each class, and each class gets a
 new spell or skill at that level.  We've also added skill boosting
 equipment for thieves and warriors, similar to spell boosting
 equipment that casters have always had.

 Everyone is welcome, so if you're new to the game feel free to stop by
 and check us out.  For more information and soundpack downloads, see
 our web site at:

 http://www.alteraeon.com

 For those of you who don't know anything about us, Alter Aeon is a
 multiplayer text-based game with a lot of features and settings to
 help make it blind-friendly. Over half our playerbase is blind or
 visually impaired, and we have blind builders and staff helping to
 expand and improve the game.

 Thanks!

 Dennis Towne

 Alter Aeon MUD
 http://www.alteraeon.com

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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-22 Thread Dennis Towne
Dark,

You can actually play the game using a dial up modem once you have the
client and/or soundpack downloaded.  Your parent's connection should
be fine :)

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:41 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi.

 sounds awsome, always nice to have new stuff to discover and new spells and
 skills to use.

 Just a quick question, how fast a connection do I need? I'm currently at my
 parents' who have a more minimal broardband package than I do, something
 like about a speed of 4 or 5 mb rather than the 17-20 I get in my flat.

 Will this be okay for alterean?

 if so, i'll look at installing the soundpack on my laptop so that I can play
 here.

 All the best,

 Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-22 Thread Dennis Towne
Dave,

I've heard of a handful of people using NVDA, as well as Windows Eyes
and various versions of Jaws with all of the clients.  Unfortunately,
it seems to be dependent on your exact configuration and getting the
right scripts; in that regard, I don't know that I can help you.
Perhaps some of the other players can though.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:22 PM, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Which clients are regarded as the best for use with a screen reader?
 I'm using jfw 11 and downloaded a client can't remember it's name and
 it was almost unusable I didn't get any feedback and had to
 continuously use my jfw cursor to find out anything. I'm also
 interested if any of these clients work with nvda?

 Thanks.
 Dave.


 On 6/22/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi.

 sounds awsome, always nice to have new stuff to discover and new spells and
 skills to use.

 Just a quick question, how fast a connection do I need? I'm currently at my
 parents' who have a more minimal broardband package than I do, something
 like about a speed of 4 or 5 mb rather than the 17-20 I get in my flat.

 Will this be okay for alterean?

 if so, i'll look at installing the soundpack on my laptop so that I can play
 here.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:17 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35


 Everyone,

 I'd like to announce a summertime expansion for Alter Aeon!  We're
 raising the maximum level to 35 in each class, and each class gets a
 new spell or skill at that level.  We've also added skill boosting
 equipment for thieves and warriors, similar to spell boosting
 equipment that casters have always had.

 Everyone is welcome, so if you're new to the game feel free to stop by
 and check us out.  For more information and soundpack downloads, see
 our web site at:

 http://www.alteraeon.com

 For those of you who don't know anything about us, Alter Aeon is a
 multiplayer text-based game with a lot of features and settings to
 help make it blind-friendly. Over half our playerbase is blind or
 visually impaired, and we have blind builders and staff helping to
 expand and improve the game.

 Thanks!

 Dennis Towne

 Alter Aeon MUD
 http://www.alteraeon.com

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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-22 Thread Oriol Gómez
Hi,
you can use any screen reader with the mushclient package found at
http://oriolg.es/mush.php
By any screen reader I mean jaws, window eyes, NVDA or system access,
those are the major ones anyway.
Hth.

On 6/22/11, Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com wrote:
 Dave,

 I've heard of a handful of people using NVDA, as well as Windows Eyes
 and various versions of Jaws with all of the clients.  Unfortunately,
 it seems to be dependent on your exact configuration and getting the
 right scripts; in that regard, I don't know that I can help you.
 Perhaps some of the other players can though.

 Dennis Towne

 Alter Aeon MUD
 http://www.alteraeon.com

 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:22 PM, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Which clients are regarded as the best for use with a screen reader?
 I'm using jfw 11 and downloaded a client can't remember it's name and
 it was almost unusable I didn't get any feedback and had to
 continuously use my jfw cursor to find out anything. I'm also
 interested if any of these clients work with nvda?

 Thanks.
 Dave.


 On 6/22/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi.

 sounds awsome, always nice to have new stuff to discover and new spells
 and
 skills to use.

 Just a quick question, how fast a connection do I need? I'm currently at
 my
 parents' who have a more minimal broardband package than I do, something
 like about a speed of 4 or 5 mb rather than the 17-20 I get in my flat.

 Will this be okay for alterean?

 if so, i'll look at installing the soundpack on my laptop so that I can
 play
 here.

 All the best,

 Dark.
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 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:17 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35


 Everyone,

 I'd like to announce a summertime expansion for Alter Aeon!  We're
 raising the maximum level to 35 in each class, and each class gets a
 new spell or skill at that level.  We've also added skill boosting
 equipment for thieves and warriors, similar to spell boosting
 equipment that casters have always had.

 Everyone is welcome, so if you're new to the game feel free to stop by
 and check us out.  For more information and soundpack downloads, see
 our web site at:

 http://www.alteraeon.com

 For those of you who don't know anything about us, Alter Aeon is a
 multiplayer text-based game with a lot of features and settings to
 help make it blind-friendly. Over half our playerbase is blind or
 visually impaired, and we have blind builders and staff helping to
 expand and improve the game.

 Thanks!

 Dennis Towne

 Alter Aeon MUD
 http://www.alteraeon.com

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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-22 Thread dark

Hi Dave.

vip mud works with nvda, sapi jaws window eyes and system access and will 
output directlyk, you can get it from www.gmagames.com.


however, For alterean there is a specific client that comes with such an 
extensive soundpack and so many shortcut keys it nerely transforms the game 
into an audio game.


though I use vip mud for other muds, I'd strongly recommend you get the mush 
client soundpack from http://oriolg.es/mush.php


I can't say whether it works with nvda, but it certainly does work with jaws 
sinse that is what it was made for, but also works very well with sapi which 
is what I use it with.


I'd really recommend it as a fantastic way of playing alterean.

Beware the grue!

Dark. 



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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-22 Thread dark

Thanks.

that's actually great to know.

I've installed the soundpack, and will hopefully be on as soon as I've got 
the sapi working.


All the best,

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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-22 Thread dark
As a Hal user for the last 17 or so years, I am not absolutely keen on that 
comment really, though sinse Dolphin have only recently released the Hal 
output api to developers (it was used in quitter), this is understandable.


Actually reading the hole mush interface with hal is pretty okay, and I in 
fact suppliment sapi with my virtual focus for things like pulling names and 
words off the output.


The only reason I can't use Hal fully as I would in playing an if game is 
that the client won't automatically pass lines of text from the mud on to 
Hal, though having hal and sapi running together really isn't such a 
problem.


All the best,

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-22 Thread Valiant8086

Hi.
The network speed actually doesn't matter that much. I played on a 56k 
dialup connection for years. Only with a slow connection you have to be 
careful that nothing else is running and slowing your network response 
time down or you could end up getting killed because you lagged out 
during a particularly tricky fight. The primary concern is the network's 
latency rather than to it's data throughput speed. The more latency your 
connection has, the longer it takes to get a response from Alter Aeon, 
at least to a certain point. Eventually you'll be more or less unable to 
go any faster because you're able to go as quick as Alter Aeon itself 
can. A lot of connections typically seem to have a latency of about 60 
ms, at least that's what you get if you run the ping command on 
google.com. Me I am out in the country and the only kind of internet I 
can get is celular, and I have a ping response time of about 150ms and I 
don't have much trouble playing.


Of course, when your network is working hard to accomplish a task 
elsewhere, it'll introduce latency especially if it isn't a very  good 
connection to start with because the mud client and Alter Aeon have to 
wait for their turn to exchange packets since the network is busy moving 
data for other things at the same time. In other words you probably 
already know this but it's possible to slow things down by downloading 
something at the same time you play so be aware of that if you weren't 
already.


Alter Aeon and your client communicate only in a low bandwidth text 
message like situation, the sounds the client uses are usually stored 
locally on your computer so even though you have audio, text messages 
are causing those sounds to be played either with or without the intent 
of the mud game itself. There are probably lots of bits and pieces of 
text not being displayed on screen but which the client you use has 
prevented from being displayed on the screen and played a sound or 
spoken an alternate message for instead. I think you already understand 
this stuff, but in case you or anyone else on the list don't, this might 
hopefully help.





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On 6/22/2011 2:21 PM, Dennis Towne wrote:

Dark,

You can actually play the game using a dial up modem once you have the
client and/or soundpack downloaded.  Your parent's connection should
be fine :)

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:41 PM, darkd...@xgam.org  wrote:

Hi.

sounds awsome, always nice to have new stuff to discover and new spells and
skills to use.

Just a quick question, how fast a connection do I need? I'm currently at my
parents' who have a more minimal broardband package than I do, something
like about a speed of 4 or 5 mb rather than the 17-20 I get in my flat.

Will this be okay for alterean?

if so, i'll look at installing the soundpack on my laptop so that I can play
here.

All the best,

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon expansion - level 35

2011-06-22 Thread Valiant8086
Dark when you get a chance can you send a tell to Mathayas on Alter 
Aeon? That's me and I want to chat.


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On 6/22/2011 2:21 PM, Dennis Towne wrote:

Dark,

You can actually play the game using a dial up modem once you have the
client and/or soundpack downloaded.  Your parent's connection should
be fine :)

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:41 PM, darkd...@xgam.org  wrote:

Hi.

sounds awsome, always nice to have new stuff to discover and new spells and
skills to use.

Just a quick question, how fast a connection do I need? I'm currently at my
parents' who have a more minimal broardband package than I do, something
like about a speed of 4 or 5 mb rather than the 17-20 I get in my flat.

Will this be okay for alterean?

if so, i'll look at installing the soundpack on my laptop so that I can play
here.

All the best,

Dark.

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