Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-25 Thread Hayden Presley
Yeah too bad there is no way to dothat with a screen reader. Good Luck!
Hayden

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of James Howard
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

I'll try to look in the bios and stuff, but it will have to be
tomowwor, when I can have some sighted assistance, and I'm going to
try to boot into save mode again


On 12/24/09, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Interesting...disconnecting the net wouldn't work if you were still
getting
 that in safe mode; little runs when you boot it up in that mode, certainly
 not antivrrus software.
 Best Regards,
 Hayden

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 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of shaun everiss
 Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:48 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

 weird.
 maybe a virus.
 I have had the same issue with an old system my grandpa has.
 all his stuff is on an unsecured system because we didn't have the
equipment
 or software to do anything about it.
 due to it dieing mainly because of all the spyware and viruses and the
fact
 that one of the fans in the power unit has been on the blink for some
 months, i actually looked at recovery.
 However because of the condition it was not possible.
 So just reformat and lose your stuff.
 All I can suggest, I almost lost everything with my wd 500gb elements
 exploding.
 Thanks to a couple lucky breaks, a drive with a dieing power switch my
dad's
 system and my cell, part of the net and a couple other things I mannaged
to
 lose vary little.
 did your virus checker or something give any warning?
 if not then it may not be a virus.
 no virus does this anyway.

 at least I don't know one.
 Ok so it aint a virus.
 get someone to look in bios.
 most new systems have smart detection which is internal monitoring of some
 hardware, cpus, fans main board hdd etc.
 if something is failing or has failed then someone sighted should probably
 help you on this.
 Ofcause not sure if you are blind or not, but if not using del or whatever
 key gets you in the bios settings will help and have a look at bits of
 stuff.
 Remove the power wait for 20 mins open the system check the cards are all
in
 their slots.
 turn on the system and listen with the case open.
 if a fan or something is not working you should at least be able to hear
it
 and see  it if you can.
 NOt sure but people say you can see spinning components so it must do.
 If you have a external hard drive caddy you could try connecting the drive
 to your system, and transfering stuff off.
 you probably can scan the hdd on that system to and fix any virus, etc.
 however not windows.
 Should be ok as long as you don't autorun the drive.
 How in the basic terms of your problem I suggest some hardware is dead,
 check the power supply and replace the battery, have a real good listen to
 the system.
 I say this because one day a friend of mine paniced and shut down his
system
 during a disk scan with norton disk docter because he was not used to the
 noise and got scared.
 this resulted in destruction of his boot record and required an reinstall
of
 the os only, which was fortunate.
 Also fortunate for him because he was running dos 5.0 and I had 6.22
 however  that was long time ago you can't do that with windows based
system.
 I am not sure how to answer your issue.
 If you are able to fix this issue or even not I strongly recomend you buy
an
 external hard drive and then another to back it up.
 I have 2 here.
  the 640gb which is my main data drive and workhorse and a 1tb mybook
which
 stores backups.
 every few months I manually sink the drive this can take half a day or so
 but it means that in most cases I do have a coppy of the drive if not
exact,
 well almost.
 If the drive does die I can change drives, till I can buy another, and
then
 transfer stuff over to it.
 At 02:07 p.m. 25/12/2009, you wrote:
I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
I need help, badly
Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff

Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-25 Thread dark
Well, if it's stil happening when the net is disconnected, it's obviously 
something running on your machine try pressing windows key and U to bring up 
ms narrator. You can use it to look at what programs are in the startup 
point on your windows menue, and also check the add/remove programs list to 
see what's happening.


If Jaws is doing nothing, it might also be a Jaws problem,  though sinse 
I don't use jaws myself I can't really say anything for certain I'm afraid.


i certainly know in that situation I could shut down Hal then look at 
restarting it with default settings, - but as to jaws I'm not sure.


hth.

Beware the Grue!

dark.
- Original Message - 
From: James Howard coldshadow...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 2:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!



ok, I tried disconnecting the net, and nothing changed
I'm not sure how to check all my programs and stuff without being in
windows, but the thing is, after that welcome screen comes up, I do
anything, it won't take any commands at all, the screen is totally
blank, jaws won't even do anything, after it speaks the welcome
screen.

On 12/24/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Hi.

First, check what background programs are running at startup. Virus
checkers, programs that auto update, and windows system updates 
themsleves
can all be resource hogs,  especially at start if they all want to 
start

at once.

it was for this reason that I couldn't run Avg on my old desktop, because
whenever it did a full system scan (which it insisted on doing at startup
each day),k it slowed everything down ridiculously.

The same thing used to happen when my university network decided to turn 
on
windows update, and my computer tried to download a years worth of 
updates

at startup without my knowing.

i'd suggest disconnecting your net connection, then starting your system 
and
looking at what's going on with it,  making certain unnecessary 
programs

aren't running automatically.

hth.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: James Howard coldshadow...@gmail.com
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:07 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!



I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
I need help, badly
Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff is on
that system, I am having to write this message from my laptop.

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Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-25 Thread dark
I don't think the situation is drastic enough to warrent reformating here 
sean.


If I reformatted every computer I've seen do a slow down, --- -I'd rarely be 
able to save anything.


while that is an eventual solution,  probably best to investigate other 
possibilities first.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!



weird.
maybe a virus.
I have had the same issue with an old system my grandpa has.
all his stuff is on an unsecured system because we didn't have the 
equipment or software to do anything about it.
due to it dieing mainly because of all the spyware and viruses and the 
fact that one of the fans in the power unit has been on the blink for some 
months, i actually looked at recovery.

However because of the condition it was not possible.
So just reformat and lose your stuff.
All I can suggest, I almost lost everything with my wd 500gb elements 
exploding.
Thanks to a couple lucky breaks, a drive with a dieing power switch my 
dad's system and my cell, part of the net and a couple other things I 
mannaged to lose vary little.

did your virus checker or something give any warning?
if not then it may not be a virus.
no virus does this anyway.

at least I don't know one.
Ok so it aint a virus.
get someone to look in bios.
most new systems have smart detection which is internal monitoring of some 
hardware, cpus, fans main board hdd etc.
if something is failing or has failed then someone sighted should probably 
help you on this.
Ofcause not sure if you are blind or not, but if not using del or whatever 
key gets you in the bios settings will help and have a look at bits of 
stuff.
Remove the power wait for 20 mins open the system check the cards are all 
in their slots.

turn on the system and listen with the case open.
if a fan or something is not working you should at least be able to hear 
it and see  it if you can.

NOt sure but people say you can see spinning components so it must do.
If you have a external hard drive caddy you could try connecting the drive 
to your system, and transfering stuff off.

you probably can scan the hdd on that system to and fix any virus, etc.
however not windows.
Should be ok as long as you don't autorun the drive.
How in the basic terms of your problem I suggest some hardware is dead, 
check the power supply and replace the battery, have a real good listen to 
the system.
I say this because one day a friend of mine paniced and shut down his 
system during a disk scan with norton disk docter because he was not used 
to the noise and got scared.
this resulted in destruction of his boot record and required an reinstall 
of the os only, which was fortunate.

Also fortunate for him because he was running dos 5.0 and I had 6.22
however  that was long time ago you can't do that with windows based 
system.

I am not sure how to answer your issue.
If you are able to fix this issue or even not I strongly recomend you buy 
an external hard drive and then another to back it up.

I have 2 here.
the 640gb which is my main data drive and workhorse and a 1tb mybook which 
stores backups.
every few months I manually sink the drive this can take half a day or so 
but it means that in most cases I do have a coppy of the drive if not 
exact, well almost.
If the drive does die I can change drives, till I can buy another, and 
then transfer stuff over to it.

At 02:07 p.m. 25/12/2009, you wrote:

I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
I need help, badly
Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff is on
that system, I am having to write this message from my laptop.

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Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-25 Thread peter Mahach

are you sure this isn't a jaws problem?
try making your computer do a sound, IE windows r and type someting 
poineless, or such. try running narrator or nvda or another screen reader. 
If you don't hear a thing ask a sighted person if anything appeared on the 
screen.
- Original Message - 
From: James Howard coldshadow...@gmail.com

To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 2:07 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!



I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
I need help, badly
Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff is on
that system, I am having to write this message from my laptop.

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Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-25 Thread Hayden Presley
Hmmm...could your speakersbe muted?

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of peter Mahach
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 7:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

are you sure this isn't a jaws problem?
try making your computer do a sound, IE windows r and type someting 
poineless, or such. try running narrator or nvda or another screen reader. 
If you don't hear a thing ask a sighted person if anything appeared on the 
screen.
- Original Message - 
From: James Howard coldshadow...@gmail.com
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 2:07 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!


 I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
 I need help, badly
 Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
 working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
 wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
 windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
 Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
 never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
 screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
 I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
 doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
 back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
 As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
 as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff is on
 that system, I am having to write this message from my laptop.

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Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-25 Thread Munawar Bijani
Hi,
Try pressing CTRL+Alt+Delete when you see the logon screen come up. It could 
be possible that the setting to press ctrl alt del got set unintentionally, 
in which case you will see a window telling you to press ctrl alt del to get 
to the logon screen--a window I have known JAWS to see sometimes as a blank 
window
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

ok, I tried disconnecting the net, and nothing changed
I'm not sure how to check all my programs and stuff without being in
windows, but the thing is, after that welcome screen comes up, I do
anything, it won't take any commands at all, the screen is totally
blank, jaws won't even do anything, after it speaks the welcome
screen.

 


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Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-25 Thread peter Mahach

he says the logon screen reads, it's all later. so dout it
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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!



Hmmm...could your speakersbe muted?

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of peter Mahach
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 7:34 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

are you sure this isn't a jaws problem?
try making your computer do a sound, IE windows r and type someting
poineless, or such. try running narrator or nvda or another screen reader.
If you don't hear a thing ask a sighted person if anything appeared on the
screen.
- Original Message - 
From: James Howard coldshadow...@gmail.com

To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 2:07 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!



I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
I need help, badly
Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff is on
that system, I am having to write this message from my laptop.

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Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-24 Thread dark

Hi.

First, check what background programs are running at startup. Virus 
checkers, programs that auto update, and windows system updates themsleves 
can all be resource hogs,  especially at start if they all want to start 
at once.


it was for this reason that I couldn't run Avg on my old desktop, because 
whenever it did a full system scan (which it insisted on doing at startup 
each day),k it slowed everything down ridiculously.


The same thing used to happen when my university network decided to turn on 
windows update, and my computer tried to download a years worth of updates 
at startup without my knowing.


i'd suggest disconnecting your net connection, then starting your system and 
looking at what's going on with it,  making certain unnecessary programs 
aren't running automatically.


hth.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: James Howard coldshadow...@gmail.com

To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:07 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!



I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
I need help, badly
Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff is on
that system, I am having to write this message from my laptop.

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Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-24 Thread James Howard
ok, I tried disconnecting the net, and nothing changed
I'm not sure how to check all my programs and stuff without being in
windows, but the thing is, after that welcome screen comes up, I do
anything, it won't take any commands at all, the screen is totally
blank, jaws won't even do anything, after it speaks the welcome
screen.

On 12/24/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi.

 First, check what background programs are running at startup. Virus
 checkers, programs that auto update, and windows system updates themsleves
 can all be resource hogs,  especially at start if they all want to start
 at once.

 it was for this reason that I couldn't run Avg on my old desktop, because
 whenever it did a full system scan (which it insisted on doing at startup
 each day),k it slowed everything down ridiculously.

 The same thing used to happen when my university network decided to turn on
 windows update, and my computer tried to download a years worth of updates
 at startup without my knowing.

 i'd suggest disconnecting your net connection, then starting your system and
 looking at what's going on with it,  making certain unnecessary programs
 aren't running automatically.

 hth.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.
 - Original Message -
 From: James Howard coldshadow...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:07 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!


 I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
 I need help, badly
 Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
 working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
 wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
 windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
 Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
 never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
 screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
 I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
 doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
 back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
 As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
 as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff is on
 that system, I am having to write this message from my laptop.

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Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-24 Thread shaun everiss
weird.
maybe a virus.
I have had the same issue with an old system my grandpa has.
all his stuff is on an unsecured system because we didn't have the equipment or 
software to do anything about it.
due to it dieing mainly because of all the spyware and viruses and the fact 
that one of the fans in the power unit has been on the blink for some months, i 
actually looked at recovery.
However because of the condition it was not possible.
So just reformat and lose your stuff.
All I can suggest, I almost lost everything with my wd 500gb elements exploding.
Thanks to a couple lucky breaks, a drive with a dieing power switch my dad's 
system and my cell, part of the net and a couple other things I mannaged to 
lose vary little.
did your virus checker or something give any warning?
if not then it may not be a virus.
no virus does this anyway.

at least I don't know one.
Ok so it aint a virus.
get someone to look in bios.
most new systems have smart detection which is internal monitoring of some 
hardware, cpus, fans main board hdd etc.
if something is failing or has failed then someone sighted should probably help 
you on this.
Ofcause not sure if you are blind or not, but if not using del or whatever key 
gets you in the bios settings will help and have a look at bits of stuff.
Remove the power wait for 20 mins open the system check the cards are all in 
their slots.
turn on the system and listen with the case open.
if a fan or something is not working you should at least be able to hear it and 
see  it if you can.
NOt sure but people say you can see spinning components so it must do.
If you have a external hard drive caddy you could try connecting the drive to 
your system, and transfering stuff off.
you probably can scan the hdd on that system to and fix any virus, etc.
however not windows.
Should be ok as long as you don't autorun the drive.
How in the basic terms of your problem I suggest some hardware is dead, check 
the power supply and replace the battery, have a real good listen to the system.
I say this because one day a friend of mine paniced and shut down his system 
during a disk scan with norton disk docter because he was not used to the noise 
and got scared.
this resulted in destruction of his boot record and required an reinstall of 
the os only, which was fortunate.
Also fortunate for him because he was running dos 5.0 and I had 6.22
however  that was long time ago you can't do that with windows based system.
I am not sure how to answer your issue.
If you are able to fix this issue or even not I strongly recomend you buy an 
external hard drive and then another to back it up.
I have 2 here.
 the 640gb which is my main data drive and workhorse and a 1tb mybook which 
stores backups.
every few months I manually sink the drive this can take half a day or so but 
it means that in most cases I do have a coppy of the drive if not exact, well 
almost.
If the drive does die I can change drives, till I can buy another, and then 
transfer stuff over to it.
At 02:07 p.m. 25/12/2009, you wrote:
I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
I need help, badly
Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff is on
that system, I am having to write this message from my laptop.

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Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-24 Thread Hayden Presley
Interesting...disconnecting the net wouldn't work if you were still getting
that in safe mode; little runs when you boot it up in that mode, certainly
not antivrrus software.
Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of shaun everiss
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:48 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

weird.
maybe a virus.
I have had the same issue with an old system my grandpa has.
all his stuff is on an unsecured system because we didn't have the equipment
or software to do anything about it.
due to it dieing mainly because of all the spyware and viruses and the fact
that one of the fans in the power unit has been on the blink for some
months, i actually looked at recovery.
However because of the condition it was not possible.
So just reformat and lose your stuff.
All I can suggest, I almost lost everything with my wd 500gb elements
exploding.
Thanks to a couple lucky breaks, a drive with a dieing power switch my dad's
system and my cell, part of the net and a couple other things I mannaged to
lose vary little.
did your virus checker or something give any warning?
if not then it may not be a virus.
no virus does this anyway.

at least I don't know one.
Ok so it aint a virus.
get someone to look in bios.
most new systems have smart detection which is internal monitoring of some
hardware, cpus, fans main board hdd etc.
if something is failing or has failed then someone sighted should probably
help you on this.
Ofcause not sure if you are blind or not, but if not using del or whatever
key gets you in the bios settings will help and have a look at bits of
stuff.
Remove the power wait for 20 mins open the system check the cards are all in
their slots.
turn on the system and listen with the case open.
if a fan or something is not working you should at least be able to hear it
and see  it if you can.
NOt sure but people say you can see spinning components so it must do.
If you have a external hard drive caddy you could try connecting the drive
to your system, and transfering stuff off.
you probably can scan the hdd on that system to and fix any virus, etc.
however not windows.
Should be ok as long as you don't autorun the drive.
How in the basic terms of your problem I suggest some hardware is dead,
check the power supply and replace the battery, have a real good listen to
the system.
I say this because one day a friend of mine paniced and shut down his system
during a disk scan with norton disk docter because he was not used to the
noise and got scared.
this resulted in destruction of his boot record and required an reinstall of
the os only, which was fortunate.
Also fortunate for him because he was running dos 5.0 and I had 6.22
however  that was long time ago you can't do that with windows based system.
I am not sure how to answer your issue.
If you are able to fix this issue or even not I strongly recomend you buy an
external hard drive and then another to back it up.
I have 2 here.
 the 640gb which is my main data drive and workhorse and a 1tb mybook which
stores backups.
every few months I manually sink the drive this can take half a day or so
but it means that in most cases I do have a coppy of the drive if not exact,
well almost.
If the drive does die I can change drives, till I can buy another, and then
transfer stuff over to it.
At 02:07 p.m. 25/12/2009, you wrote:
I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
I need help, badly
Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff is on
that system, I am having to write this message from my laptop.

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Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

2009-12-24 Thread James Howard
I'll try to look in the bios and stuff, but it will have to be
tomowwor, when I can have some sighted assistance, and I'm going to
try to boot into save mode again


On 12/24/09, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Interesting...disconnecting the net wouldn't work if you were still getting
 that in safe mode; little runs when you boot it up in that mode, certainly
 not antivrrus software.
 Best Regards,
 Hayden

 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of shaun everiss
 Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:48 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] OT: Need help ergently!

 weird.
 maybe a virus.
 I have had the same issue with an old system my grandpa has.
 all his stuff is on an unsecured system because we didn't have the equipment
 or software to do anything about it.
 due to it dieing mainly because of all the spyware and viruses and the fact
 that one of the fans in the power unit has been on the blink for some
 months, i actually looked at recovery.
 However because of the condition it was not possible.
 So just reformat and lose your stuff.
 All I can suggest, I almost lost everything with my wd 500gb elements
 exploding.
 Thanks to a couple lucky breaks, a drive with a dieing power switch my dad's
 system and my cell, part of the net and a couple other things I mannaged to
 lose vary little.
 did your virus checker or something give any warning?
 if not then it may not be a virus.
 no virus does this anyway.

 at least I don't know one.
 Ok so it aint a virus.
 get someone to look in bios.
 most new systems have smart detection which is internal monitoring of some
 hardware, cpus, fans main board hdd etc.
 if something is failing or has failed then someone sighted should probably
 help you on this.
 Ofcause not sure if you are blind or not, but if not using del or whatever
 key gets you in the bios settings will help and have a look at bits of
 stuff.
 Remove the power wait for 20 mins open the system check the cards are all in
 their slots.
 turn on the system and listen with the case open.
 if a fan or something is not working you should at least be able to hear it
 and see  it if you can.
 NOt sure but people say you can see spinning components so it must do.
 If you have a external hard drive caddy you could try connecting the drive
 to your system, and transfering stuff off.
 you probably can scan the hdd on that system to and fix any virus, etc.
 however not windows.
 Should be ok as long as you don't autorun the drive.
 How in the basic terms of your problem I suggest some hardware is dead,
 check the power supply and replace the battery, have a real good listen to
 the system.
 I say this because one day a friend of mine paniced and shut down his system
 during a disk scan with norton disk docter because he was not used to the
 noise and got scared.
 this resulted in destruction of his boot record and required an reinstall of
 the os only, which was fortunate.
 Also fortunate for him because he was running dos 5.0 and I had 6.22
 however  that was long time ago you can't do that with windows based system.
 I am not sure how to answer your issue.
 If you are able to fix this issue or even not I strongly recomend you buy an
 external hard drive and then another to back it up.
 I have 2 here.
  the 640gb which is my main data drive and workhorse and a 1tb mybook which
 stores backups.
 every few months I manually sink the drive this can take half a day or so
 but it means that in most cases I do have a coppy of the drive if not exact,
 well almost.
 If the drive does die I can change drives, till I can buy another, and then
 transfer stuff over to it.
 At 02:07 p.m. 25/12/2009, you wrote:
I'm sorry that this is off topic, and I hope no one takes offense, but
I need help, badly
Heres the problem. I left today, and shut down my system, things were
working fine then, however, when I came back, something went horribly
wrong, I turned on the system, and it booted up like normal. The
windows logon screen came up, but it took forever to do anything.
Here is the real puzzling part, the window went away, and the desktop
never loaded, however, if I push the power button on my PC, the logoff
screen shows up, and it shuts down like normal. I've tried rebooting,
I've tried to reboot even in safe mode, nothing works, it just keeps
doing the same thing. I've even tried unplugging it and plugging it
back in, although that really probably served no perpose.
As it stands, right now I'm still having this issue, and am at a loss
as to what to do. Any help would be appriciated, as all my stuff is on
that system, I am having to write this message from my laptop.

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