The ful version of haunted factory was available only by special download,
so it's not even around anymore, I stil have a copy but haven't played
it for a long time sinse it conflicts with Avg, also I'd rather not have it
installing the now very old version of Klango, it used.
Actually
If I remember rightly it's just a case of hammering the right and left keys
in a rythmm, rather than just hammering both as much as possible.
Remmember Light tech was stil learning when they made thg, their games got
better from then on, indeeed I've always been most impressed at
I must confess I was never a fan of ten pin alley myself.
extremely lovely sounds and ambience,, but the game essentially boiled down
to a basic press space in center jobby like bsc hearts or indeed Philip's
example game for the bgt.
A lot of the features like adding your name really didn't
I must confess I do agreee, Now that I've got scansoft daniel, sapi for
games, even highly complex ones like entombed or time of conflict works
great.
Then again it seems heavily dependent upon voice. That was one of the chief
reasons the screen reader speech business got added to
Actually Sapi and Hal let me do that pretty well, in fact I've quite
often been known to flick Hal's voice back on, read E-mails then flick back
to entombed and turn the voice off, especially if I come up against
something wonky in the game.
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As I said Bryan, I've been doing this in Hal for ages, in games or indeed
when watching dvd's sinse I can just flick Hal's voice off and use the
standard power dvd shortcuts on my computer just like buttons on a standard
dvd player without Hal providing any issues.
It's probably okay when you
It's like I've said before. I wish I still had the file I created two years
ago of the suicidal Microsoft Sam.
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I know. That's one of the biggest reasons I finally just dumped JAWS in
favor of Window-Eyes. Granted I didn't know that then but now that I do...
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Jaws is cool!
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Sent: 21 April 2010 05:03
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That's one thing I like about Window-Eyes. It can
Really Really Really? I could just put jaws by going in to the comfigiration
manager in jaws, then I could go to advantsed options by hitting ault s then
selecting that option. Then I could set it to go to sleep when I want it to.
And I could set it not to go to sleep.
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On the contrary. If you choose the most difficult skill level, the swinging
and aiming method, and use the hook feature, it's not that easy to score
high. It is no longer a simple pressing of the enter key. Timing and skill
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are there any more game recordings from independent sources
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You could also turn off hal by pressing the control and the 0 key. I
haven't used hal for a while, because that was on my brothers win 98 desktop
but no one uses that desktop anymore. That's why jaws is good, because you
could do anything you want. I use to use hal back in when I was 9 or 8
i disagree about jaws. i love system access because it is the only
program that will let you use julie which is a realistic voice. with
sapi you can download paul which is a realistic voice.
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Well that's a matter of personal opinion. I happen to not like JAWS because
of how it monopolizes the keyboard, not to mention a whole host of other
issues I could spend all day listing if I so chose but won't. I just happen
to like how you can if necessarily leave Window-Eyes running while
See with Window-Eyes you don't even have to do that much, unless a keystroke
in the game would conflict with a Window-Eyes keystroke. And it's easy to
modify hotkeys so they don't interfere.
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I couldn't agree more. I've done that many times.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:44
Window-Eyes lets you use most SAPI voices including the NeoSpeech ones.
JAWS doesn't let you use those, and heaven forbid you should ask FS tech
support to help you get that to work. That's another thing Inever liked
about JAWS.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in
Unfortunately charlese, neither my trying of the demo nor the audio reviews
I've heard have given me that impression at all to be honest, maybe if
the game has got more complicated recently an audio review or more words
about it would b good, sinse it just did seem to me to be a very
Well obviously, the quality if your computer doesn't have anything to do
with what screen reader your using at all. I first learnt It skills and
typing on an absolutely horrible old monster of a thing running windows 3.1
with a copy of Hal version 3 on it.
That machine locked up every session
Well I think, you could create a function by jaws scripting.
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Sent: 21 April 2010 17:50
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See
I'm sure you could, but that's the point. You don't even have to do that
with Window-Eyes.
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man that sucks. Got it for ps3 here. and I wanted to play you online too! oh
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Hi Bryan,
Oh, don't get me started on Freedom Scientific tech support. Those
guys are idiots. They have an extremely narrow view of the world
that's for sure.
I remember calling them about wanting to support the Dectalk 5
Software produced by Phonix. They are like, Why do you want to do
that?
Yeah. And I bet if you asked them to help you configure a game you were
developing to work with JAWS their response would be the same. JAWS wasn't
meant to be used to play games! or somesuch nonsense. I'll freely admit I
use Eloquence more than the other voices I have but only because it has
I like jaws. Though probably elequnts is much more supported, that's why
they may of said that to you.
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Sent: 21 April 2010 19:58
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Hi Muhammed,
As Bryan said earlier with Window-Eyes most of the time you don't even
have to put the screen reader to sleep with most games. In fact, when
I'm doing all of my testing I have Window-Eyes running in the
background to catch any popup error messages etc while I'm playing.
With Jaws 11
There was no need to be rude or condescending about it though. A company
like that really needs pay more attention to their customers' wants and
needs. That's probably why a lot of people who make the switch from JAWS do
it in the first place. And there are things that, say, Window-Eyes does
Hi,
No, it is just simply the fact ever since shipping Eloquence with Jaws
they automatically assume that is what all of their customers will use
or want to use. Plus for them to purchase the Phonix Dectalk 5 SDK
and then write a Jaws driver for it would cost them money, and they
don't want to do
Hi Thomas,
I thought this. Ring Jorje Bell and it should be fine. His a computer
technition I think. He helps us with all of hour problems. Off cource if we
really need help and he can't help, then we ring tech support. If they're
like that, I'd like to prank call them, hehehe.
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Hi everyone.
I am among those who would love to see an accessible Oregon Trail game
developed for windows. I remember hearing last year that Louis Bryant was
working on porting over the Apple version. If that's the case, I would
personally be more than willing to donate to support that project.
that is why i don't care for crap for windows. that is what i call
jaws. if you want a good screen reader then go with system access.
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I wasn't a fan of System Access.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with horse
Hi Alice. Please if you hear of anything that you let me know as well. But
I'd probably see it if it's on the list. I too remember playing this old
classic when I was in high school on a old apple two e. It wold be cool if
it were transfered to a windows platform and even cooler if it had sound
Actually it's Alison. LOL. But I agree. I used to be addicted to that game.
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It's interesting all the good stuff thae Tom and Bryan have listed about
Window eyes also applies to Hal, even the tech support business and
ability to use Sapi synths as speech output. I even stil use orphius for the
same reason That Bryan uses eloquence, the response time is so
man i would like to play the game. but because of the problem i'm
having i can't. like i have said before i have all the requirements
and i have done the stuff like folks have say.
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I still use hal though mine is grosly out dated now.
I have not seen any reason to switch though even though I could if i cared to
have the guts its the same with win xp apart from the security aspects I will
have to spend loads of cash to upgrade hal and jaws and with jaws looks I'd
need to
well one reason I still like hal for games is you can turn the voice and
hotkeys off.
the reader is still loaded but its not doing any intercepts.
doesn't mean it could crash but it does mean when you are done you can switch
it back in.
trouble is its easy to forget.
At 07:05 a.m. 22/04/2010,
well eloquence is the blindness shipping product that goes in everything.
win eyes, k1000, and even hal now though some like k1000 and gw did have
dectalk synths.
eloquence is ok for a synth but all the small issues it had in the past.
Its also quite robotic and crappy, though as a fast responce
Hi Dark,
Based on my personal experience here Jaws is definitely the exception
not the rule. Right now I have Window-Eyes 7.11 and the latest
version of NVDA on my system and neither one has a problem being run
in the background with a game. I've used both of them with MOTA beta
12 with no
Exactly. There are, however rare they might be, times when it isn't
necessarily practical to put your screenr eader to sleep even while gaming.
A game developer testing his product is just a case in point.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
of ggh.
I think what surprises me about screen readers though is the way that people
tned to assume because jaws does something it's universal.
I've seen a good few games which say unload your screen reader where in
actual fact your screen reader just means jaws and it's irritated key
shortcut
Actually Bryan, having to put a screen reader to sleep while running games
or other programs would down right annoy me.
When writing up material for audiogames.net I quite commonly load up a game
to check basic info such as keys or main menue options and flick out of the
game to write stuff
Exactly Dark. That's the only reason I was such a staunch JAWS user for ten
years. And the only other option I did experiment with was OutSpoken, the
first screen reader for Mac. And to be quite honest I absolutely hated that.
But the reason, at least here in the US, that so many people support
Well, that does happen in this country as well sadly. I'm not sure why my
secondary school began with hal, - maybe things were different in the
early 90's, pluss my brother already had a very good relationship with
dolphin anyway and was a major fan of luna as a magnifyer.
After some
Hi,
It's better than many I've tried, some of the intonations are similar to
actual English speech; I've never figured out why people like Dektalk, I
utterly loath it.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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Hi Muhammed,
One advantage with HAL (and I can say this just based on what dark has said)
is that you can easily turn off most of it with control 8. I've always found
it a apin to have to go into configuration manager and put it to sleep; I
just unload it before launching the game.
Best Regards,
Hi Hayden,
I guess it would largely depend on what you started with, and learned
to like first. I myself began using Dos screen readers in the early
90's and at the time the Dectalk PC and Dectalk Express hardware
synths were the best around. They were the most human sounding you
could get on the
with system access they give real voices out now. like i have julie on
my computer. she sound like a real woman. matter of fact you can't
get naru julie from any other screen reader. so try the trial and play
with julie voice. and you all will see a big different in the speech.
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hey i think it is pretty cool that ten pin know that is night. how
does the game know if it is night time?
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By the time shown on the clock located on, I think?, the task bar.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 8:07 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] bowling
hey i think it is pretty cool that ten pin know that is night.
what is the different between the full gaem and the demo? and is phil
ever going to com out with another update to the game? it would be
cool if he had the game let you type in what you want to be call.
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where do you get this game from?
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Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bowling
By the time shown on the clock located on, I think?, the task bar.
As shown earlier in the thread,
www.draconisentertainment.com
HTH.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bowling
where do you get this game from?
I think the demo lets you use the practice players for frames 9 and 10,
while the full game lets you bowl the full game, and you choose from the
list of first names followed by the first letter of your last name. There
is more, and it can be found in the user's guide.
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Probably it's designed to sync with your system clock.
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From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:07 PM
Subject: [Audyssey]
Not to seem fussy or anything Michale, but why do you keep misspelling Game.
Sometimes you get it right GAME but other times you spell it G A E M.
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From: michael barnes
Hi Michael,
There are more than one factor that determines a good synthesizer. Sure,
making them sound realiitic is important, but let's not forget intonation,
inflections, and speed; those are all very important factors to consider.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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Hi Thomas,
Good point; I myself was one of those who started with eloquence, so yes, I
can definitely see your point.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010
Hi Michael,
I sent answers to some of your questions directly to your email address and
they all were bounced as undeliverable.
Although I did a bowling game for DOS, Draconis did the Ten Pin Alley game
based on some of my ideas and sound effects.
They would be the one to make changes in it.
I
Hey Phil. try it again and if you can't send me the answers to my
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I must confess, for all workings with hal I'm a big fan of Orphius' human
voices. Fast response time pluss a convincing British English accent. For
Sapi stuff I do like realspeak daniel, but it's response time is far too
slow for me to use it with Hal.
This hasn't always been the case of
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