Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Philip, Sounds great. The more I hear about BGT the better it sounds. Smile. On 7/17/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi Tom, Well, I have an optimized AStar implementation with some extra features not found in the original spec lying around, and I am also considering offering lobby server hosting for those wanting to make online games and avoid the direct IP connections, as well as online score posting. This would obviously consume resources on my server, so it would be part of pro only. A little twist is that once someone has bought pro, either single or unlimited, they can obviously use the extra features even in free games which means that if you pay 100 dollars for pro single, you can then use the extra features in all your future free games as well which cannot be done with lite. I hope this makes sense. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Phillip, Wow. I am definitely thinking of ordering the pro now that's a hundred dollars. I can hardly believe it's that low (but don't raise it! Grin). Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:15 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi Will, No, but it should not be long until at least the first installment in that series is released. Expect it to happen in early August. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Philip do you ahve tutorials created yet on how to make specific types of games? On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Phillip, Sorry, I hadn't yet answered your original message. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Phil, Oh, really? What kind of extra goodies do you have up your sleeve for pro? Cheers! On 7/17/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi Hayden, Here are the differences: 1. With lite, you can only release freeware games. 2. With pro single, you can create and release one commercial game as well as an unlimited number of free games. 3. With pro unlimited, you can create and sell an unlimited number of commercial games as well as free ones. I also intend adding some features that are exclusive to pro users, as to make it appealing even for those wanting to make advanced free games as well. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Tom, Well, I have an optimized AStar implementation with some extra features not found in the original spec lying around, and I am also considering offering lobby server hosting for those wanting to make online games and avoid the direct IP connections, as well as online score posting. This would obviously consume resources on my server, so it would be part of pro only. A little twist is that once someone has bought pro, either single or unlimited, they can obviously use the extra features even in free games which means that if you pay 100 dollars for pro single, you can then use the extra features in all your future free games as well which cannot be done with lite. I hope this makes sense. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi Phil, Oh, really? What kind of extra goodies do you have up your sleeve for pro? Cheers! On 7/17/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi Hayden, Here are the differences: 1. With lite, you can only release freeware games. 2. With pro single, you can create and release one commercial game as well as an unlimited number of free games. 3. With pro unlimited, you can create and sell an unlimited number of commercial games as well as free ones. I also intend adding some features that are exclusive to pro users, as to make it appealing even for those wanting to make advanced free games as well. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Philip, Wow! The pricing is definitely fair. $399 is beyond fair for an unlimited distribution license. Sounds great to me. Smile. On 7/14/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Philip, Yes, I definitely think more pro orders are in the making. I'm strongly considering ordering myself, but then again I've been thinking of switching to Mac soon so it would be more likely I'll be creating my own engine for Mac OS or Linux instead. It is not an easy decision for me as I think BGT is a great tool, but limited to Windows platforms. Smile. On 7/14/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi Dark, No indeed, I will not be losing out if I get a reasonable amount of orders. I have had a bunch of lite sales so far, but I'm guessing the pro ones will come a little later on. By the way, will BGT be getting a page on audiogames.net? I realize it's not exactly a game, but I figured it's still slightly game related so it might be relevant still. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Philip, Are you saying since USA games is a company that BGT would be more than $399?i understand your reasons, but how much more would the price be? thanks. On 7/14/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi Scott, I personally also thought the original prices were reasonable, but I have to listen to the majority of my target audience as I will probably get more sales that way in the end. I've actually had a bunch of pre-orders already, which I'm very happy about and so I won't be changing these prices. I'll add higher ones for actual companies, though, so that they don't get the same deal as individuals making games mainly as a hobby. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Thomas, I'm glad to hear that you like the new pricing structure. I decided to make it Windows only for now, because my impression is that the majority of blind gamers are using Windows. Thus, porting to Mac or Unix at this point would probably be just an expense rather than a profit. In a few years, we'll see, but I will be sticking with Windows for the time being. As for the company license, I haven't quite defined that part yet. Blastbay Studios is a registered business but it's still run by a single individual, much the same as with USA Games if I'm not mistaken. Thus, it wouldn't make sense for me to charge you for a full site license if you do decide to order BGT. I'll have to leave this question open for the time being, but if you wish to order it you'd be paying the same price as everyone else. If you had a larger business with several staff members, that'd be different. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi Philip, Yes, I definitely think more pro orders are in the making. I'm strongly considering ordering myself, but then again I've been thinking of switching to Mac soon so it would be more likely I'll be creating my own engine for Mac OS or Linux instead. It is not an easy decision for me as I think BGT is a great tool, but limited to Windows platforms. Smile. On 7/14/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi Dark, No indeed, I will not be losing out if I get a reasonable amount of orders. I have had a bunch of lite sales so far, but I'm guessing the pro ones will come a little later on. By the way, will BGT be getting a page on audiogames.net? I realize it's not exactly a game, but I figured it's still slightly game related so it might be relevant still. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Philip, Yes, that is the case. USA Games is a business, but is privately owned by me and I am owner, developer, and treasurer all in one. My partner, if you want to call her that is my wife, which will occasionally answer sales questions, send product keys, whatever but her income and my income from the games is the same, but there is no question that the business is really mine. Also, like you, I higher people to do certain aspects of the software development like a composer for the music, a sound company to create/produce game sounds, maybe a voice actor for voice work, etc. They don’t work for USA games directly, but are hired on for a specific job or aspect of development like what you have done for Streemway etc. As for cross-platform support I completely understand as I have the same conclusions as far as supporting Mac or Linux commercially goes. However, as you might have seen from my post earlier after I’m done with Mysteries of the Ancients I’d like to create an open source version of my Genesis Engine, Open G3D, that the community can use to produce games for Mac, Linux, Windows, whatever. I’m not sure on the licensing details, but this version of the engine would basically be intended for freeware and shareware games and wouldn’t be intended for big commercial projects the way BGT or Genesis 3D would be. USA Games is here to make commercial games so Linux and Mac would be an extra expense in producing, and I’m not looking at commercial games for those platforms either. Still it would be nice to have something available for those platforms as there are some VI users for Mac and Linux that would certainly appreciate some games including myself. However, I’ve done some game development on the Linux side and it is a decent game development platform if you use things like OpenGL, OpenAL, etc. However, there are still some game features like force feedback controllers that aren’t yet supported by SDL and that is a bit of a drawback. The other thing is that on Linux the default voice is ESpeak and that is no better than Microsoft Sam. I can’t stand the voice, and to get decent TTS support you have to buy and support something like ATT Natural Voices, Dectalk, or the Cepstral Swift engine which all have their own individual APIs. Speech-Dispatcher doesn’t yet support commercial TTS engines which means a game developer would have to write his or her own wrapper library for the various commercial engines, and own the development kits for each to do it properly. That is without a doubt a serious drawback to creating a commercial engine for Linux.I personally have a copy of Cepstral Callie and the Dectalk software for Linux and I could give such a project a start, but I don’t have the ATT SDK nor the Eloquence SDK so obviously my Sapi-like wrapper library would be incomplete. It would cost more time and money than it is worth for me to invest in all the various development kits to support the commercial engines which is why Speech-Dispatcher doesn’t support something like Eloquence for Linux. I think the Eloquence SDK is $300 or something like that which is almost the price of BGT Pro, and I doubt I could get my investment back selling to the small community of VI Linux users at this time. So the answer is to create a free and open source engine that wraps the open source game APIs, perhaps ESpeak for TTS if desired, and allows a developer to create games for Mac or Linux without the developer such as myself spending a lot of money trying to create and market a commercial engine. Smile. On 7/15/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi Thomas, I'm glad to hear that you like the new pricing structure. I decided to make it Windows only for now, because my impression is that the majority of blind gamers are using Windows. Thus, porting to Mac or Unix at this point would probably be just an expense rather than a profit. In a few years, we'll see, but I will be sticking with Windows for the time being. As for the company license, I haven't quite defined that part yet. Blastbay Studios is a registered business but it's still run by a single individual, much the same as with USA Games if I'm not mistaken. Thus, it wouldn't make sense for me to charge you for a full site license if you do decide to order BGT. I'll have to leave this question open for the time being, but if you wish to order it you'd be paying the same price as everyone else. If you had a larger business with several staff members, that'd be different. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the
[Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Philip do you ahve tutorials created yet on how to make specific types of games? On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Will, No, but it should not be long until at least the first installment in that series is released. Expect it to happen in early August. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Philip do you ahve tutorials created yet on how to make specific types of games? On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Though I would happily have paid the original price you'd set for the utility, I can't deny that this is a bit of a relief, if only because it'll mean that I'll be able to purchase it somewhat sooner than I'd expected. Certainly not right away but if I manage my finances I can do it. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:04 PM Subject: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Just one question - presumably if you went for something like lite, you could then later upgrade to another license? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:04 PM Subject: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5278 (20100714) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5278 (20100714) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Jacob, Yes, absolutely. This is the case when the price of the previous version would be deducted from the mor expensive one. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Just one question - presumably if you went for something like lite, you could then later upgrade to another license? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:04 PM Subject: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5278 (20100714) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5278 (20100714) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Thanks Philip for these I will hold off and just learn the basic language for now via the audio tutorial On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi Will, No, but it should not be long until at least the first installment in that series is released. Expect it to happen in early August. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Philip do you ahve tutorials created yet on how to make specific types of games? On Jul 14, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote: Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Philip, It's amazing what this comunity can do. Personally I think these prices under value your work, under value it in quite a big way. That said, I'll be heading to blastbay.com to get my preorder in for the lite version before you change your mind LOL. Scott On 7/14/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Scott, I personally also thought the original prices were reasonable, but I have to listen to the majority of my target audience as I will probably get more sales that way in the end. I've actually had a bunch of pre-orders already, which I'm very happy about and so I won't be changing these prices. I'll add higher ones for actual companies, though, so that they don't get the same deal as individuals making games mainly as a hobby. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi Philip, It's amazing what this comunity can do. Personally I think these prices under value your work, under value it in quite a big way. That said, I'll be heading to blastbay.com to get my preorder in for the lite version before you change your mind LOL. Scott On 7/14/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Philip, Just preordered my copy of BGT Lite. Was the Paypal site being in Swedish meant to happen? I was a bit unnerved, pretty sure I don't remember the same thing happening with Q9. Scott On 7/14/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi Scott, I personally also thought the original prices were reasonable, but I have to listen to the majority of my target audience as I will probably get more sales that way in the end. I've actually had a bunch of pre-orders already, which I'm very happy about and so I won't be changing these prices. I'll add higher ones for actual companies, though, so that they don't get the same deal as individuals making games mainly as a hobby. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi Philip, It's amazing what this comunity can do. Personally I think these prices under value your work, under value it in quite a big way. That said, I'll be heading to blastbay.com to get my preorder in for the lite version before you change your mind LOL. Scott On 7/14/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Scott, Thank you! As for the site being in Swedish, that should certainly not happen. Will look into that immediately. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi Philip, Just preordered my copy of BGT Lite. Was the Paypal site being in Swedish meant to happen? I was a bit unnerved, pretty sure I don't remember the same thing happening with Q9. Scott On 7/14/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi Scott, I personally also thought the original prices were reasonable, but I have to listen to the majority of my target audience as I will probably get more sales that way in the end. I've actually had a bunch of pre-orders already, which I'm very happy about and so I won't be changing these prices. I'll add higher ones for actual companies, though, so that they don't get the same deal as individuals making games mainly as a hobby. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi Philip, It's amazing what this comunity can do. Personally I think these prices under value your work, under value it in quite a big way. That said, I'll be heading to blastbay.com to get my preorder in for the lite version before you change your mind LOL. Scott On 7/14/10, Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se wrote: Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
I deffinately like the idea Philip, though i do hope your reductions from the initially planned prices won't hurt you financially, though hopefully if this is more within people's price range, more people will perchice it. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Dark, No indeed, I will not be losing out if I get a reasonable amount of orders. I have had a bunch of lite sales so far, but I'm guessing the pro ones will come a little later on. By the way, will BGT be getting a page on audiogames.net? I realize it's not exactly a game, but I figured it's still slightly game related so it might be relevant still. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! I deffinately like the idea Philip, though i do hope your reductions from the initially planned prices won't hurt you financially, though hopefully if this is more within people's price range, more people will perchice it. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@u7142039.fsdata.se To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Hi all, I have two announcements to make this time. First, it is now possible to pre-order the BGT engine by visiting the ordering section of the Blastbay Studios website. Second, I have decided to completely restructure the pricing of the engine. Over the last few months I have spoken with quite a few people in the community regarding the pricing and while some think it's reasonable, many others consider it to be way too high. Thus, I have decided to do a general price reduction for the engine, as well as add the Pro Single license. The licenses are as follows: BGT Demo (0.0 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of games, in source code form. No compiled executables may be created with this version, and nothing may be sold. BGT Lite Version (29.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of compiled freeware games written by an individual. Nothing may be sold. BGT Pro Single Version (99.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of one single commercial game written by an individual. An unlimited number of free games may still be compiled and distributed with this version, but only one title may be sold. BGT Pro Unlimited Version (399.95 USD): This version of the engine allows the creation and distribution of an unlimited number of commercial games written by an individual. For more legal information, please see the BGT end user license agreement. Please note that the purchase of one version of the engine also counts towards the purchase of a more expensive license type. For example, if you purchase the lite version and then wish to upgrade to a Pro Single license, you will then only have to pay 70 USD rather than the full 99.95. Any feedback on this restructuring is most welcome. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Ahh, much better (imo) Philip. You had me scared there for a while. I really really thought I was going tohave to plug in my windows machine again, just to come out with an alternative if your game creation kit went on sale for $800 or there abouts. And, trust me, I have very little desire to mess with windows more than I have to. I'm very glad you decided to lower the prices. It's almost enough to make me want to plug in my windows box anyhow, just to try it out. *grin* Anyway, I believe you're going to make a lot more sales as a result of your price reduction, so hopefully, it will work out better for you by having done so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available!
Hi Travis, I'm glad you like the new pricing structure. If you do mess around with the engine, I'd be interested to hear your feedback. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Travis Siegel tsie...@lothlorien.nfbcal.org To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] BGT - new pricing structure and pre-ordering available! Ahh, much better (imo) Philip. You had me scared there for a while. I really really thought I was going tohave to plug in my windows machine again, just to come out with an alternative if your game creation kit went on sale for $800 or there abouts. And, trust me, I have very little desire to mess with windows more than I have to. I'm very glad you decided to lower the prices. It's almost enough to make me want to plug in my windows box anyhow, just to try it out. *grin* Anyway, I believe you're going to make a lot more sales as a result of your price reduction, so hopefully, it will work out better for you by having done so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2662 - Release Date: 02/01/10 12:37:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
