Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback
Can't get to the key configuration thing - I can get to the input tab but I can't change the keys! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 31 October 2010 14:36 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback Hi. found the control dialogue fine with Hal, just a question of using the bog standard switch page controls to switch to the in put page. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: AudioGames.net rich...@audiogames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 1:53 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback Hi Ben, Good question! Because I don't know how accessible this functionality is. So all feedback on this topic is welcome! When you start the game, there's a configuration dialog. This dialog is not self-voicing or anything, so your screen reader still needs to be activated. The dialog contains two tabs: graphics and input. Click input and you'll find a table of all the functions in the game with the primary control scheme and the alternative control scheme. You're supposed to double-click an entry to change a function's control. Since I don't use a screenreader I've only tested keyboard-accessibility. To change tabs I tabbed towards the tab named graphics and than pressed the cursorkey-right, which took me to the tab input. Then I tried tabbing through the control scheme table but that didn't work. So - can anyone tell me if they can reconfigure the controls of Extant using a screenreader? If it's inaccessible, than that is something we really need to know! Best regards, Richard http://audiogames.net - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk How do you reconfig the keys? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback
I notice when ever I try and find things by holding down the control key and using arrows I just waste bullets. Am I doing something wrong here? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 12:56 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback Hi. The 3D engine business probably explains why the in game audio is so good, and now I know why I can't particularly see any game graphics other than the logo ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback
Hi, Mmm... that might be a bug... I'll look into it, thanks for reporting it! Greets, Richard - Original Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback I notice when ever I try and find things by holding down the control key and using arrows I just waste bullets. Am I doing something wrong here? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 12:56 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback Hi. The 3D engine business probably explains why the in game audio is so good, and now I know why I can't particularly see any game graphics other than the logo ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback
Hi Ben, Good question! Because I don't know how accessible this functionality is. So all feedback on this topic is welcome! When you start the game, there's a configuration dialog. This dialog is not self-voicing or anything, so your screen reader still needs to be activated. The dialog contains two tabs: graphics and input. Click input and you'll find a table of all the functions in the game with the primary control scheme and the alternative control scheme. You're supposed to double-click an entry to change a function's control. Since I don't use a screenreader I've only tested keyboard-accessibility. To change tabs I tabbed towards the tab named graphics and than pressed the cursorkey-right, which took me to the tab input. Then I tried tabbing through the control scheme table but that didn't work. So - can anyone tell me if they can reconfigure the controls of Extant using a screenreader? If it's inaccessible, than that is something we really need to know! Best regards, Richard http://audiogames.net - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk How do you reconfig the keys? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback
Hi. found the control dialogue fine with Hal, just a question of using the bog standard switch page controls to switch to the in put page. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: AudioGames.net rich...@audiogames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 1:53 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback Hi Ben, Good question! Because I don't know how accessible this functionality is. So all feedback on this topic is welcome! When you start the game, there's a configuration dialog. This dialog is not self-voicing or anything, so your screen reader still needs to be activated. The dialog contains two tabs: graphics and input. Click input and you'll find a table of all the functions in the game with the primary control scheme and the alternative control scheme. You're supposed to double-click an entry to change a function's control. Since I don't use a screenreader I've only tested keyboard-accessibility. To change tabs I tabbed towards the tab named graphics and than pressed the cursorkey-right, which took me to the tab input. Then I tried tabbing through the control scheme table but that didn't work. So - can anyone tell me if they can reconfigure the controls of Extant using a screenreader? If it's inaccessible, than that is something we really need to know! Best regards, Richard http://audiogames.net - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk How do you reconfig the keys? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback
Hi, Just curious, since there are graphics options, how do the graphics look like? Kevin - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:36:24 - Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback Hi. found the control dialogue fine with Hal, just a question of using the bog standard switch page controls to switch to the in put page. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: AudioGames.net rich...@audiogames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 1:53 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback Hi Ben, Good question! Because I don't know how accessible this functionality is. So all feedback on this topic is welcome! When you start the game, there's a configuration dialog. This dialog is not self-voicing or anything, so your screen reader still needs to be activated. The dialog contains two tabs: graphics and input. Click input and you'll find a table of all the functions in the game with the primary control scheme and the alternative control scheme. You're supposed to double-click an entry to change a function's control. Since I don't use a screenreader I've only tested keyboard-accessibility. To change tabs I tabbed towards the tab named graphics and than pressed the cursorkey-right, which took me to the tab input. Then I tried tabbing through the control scheme table but that didn't work. So - can anyone tell me if they can reconfigure the controls of Extant using a screenreader? If it's inaccessible, than that is something we really need to know! Best regards, Richard http://audiogames.net - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk How do you reconfig the keys? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback
Hi Kevin Dark et al, Extant is intended as an audio game 'pur sang' - so audio-only and no graphics. During the game there is a single graphic visible on screen of the Extant logo, which consists of the letters 'E tant' in positive, while the 'x' is in negative with a blue/greenish light coming from behind it. Above the logo is the text Stay Alive and in the bottomleft and -right corners are the logo's of AudioGames.net and CreativeHeroes. At this moment we do not intend to include graphics for further incarnations of Extant. We really want to focus on high-quality-audio-only games and not on blind-accessible video games because of several reasons (personal interest, innovation, development time/resources, etc.) The game is built using Unity (http://unity3d.com/) which includes a powerful 3D graphics engine. For development we used 3D graphic primitives (squares and spheres and such), which allowed us to quickly build the game in a visual manner (simply drag and drop sound sources unto a big sphere). Other interactions also include visual elements.For example, when you fire a bullet, there is an actual 3d sphere primitive that is shot at the monster (a 3D primitive). This allows for accurate targeting, not only from left to right, but also nearby and far away. Whenever you shoot at a monster far away, you'll hear the impact a moment later compared to when you shoot from nearby. But the visuals are only used for game development and all visual rendering is turned off in the final game. We might develop blind-accessible video games in the future, but we have no concrete projects in the CreativeHeroes pipeline at this moment. Extant is the only audio game we focus on right now. Best regards, Richard http://audiogames.net http://creativehero.es - Original Message - From: Kevin Weispfennig weis...@googlemail.com Hi, Just curious, since there are graphics options, how do the graphics look like? Kevin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback
well thats fine. Myself though it would be good if there were more hybreds like teraformas which I can play with my friends. some like audio but most don't understand it enough without graphics. At 04:43 a.m. 1/11/2010, you wrote: Hi Kevin Dark et al, Extant is intended as an audio game 'pur sang' - so audio-only and no graphics. During the game there is a single graphic visible on screen of the Extant logo, which consists of the letters 'E tant' in positive, while the 'x' is in negative with a blue/greenish light coming from behind it. Above the logo is the text Stay Alive and in the bottomleft and -right corners are the logo's of AudioGames.net and CreativeHeroes. At this moment we do not intend to include graphics for further incarnations of Extant. We really want to focus on high-quality-audio-only games and not on blind-accessible video games because of several reasons (personal interest, innovation, development time/resources, etc.) The game is built using Unity (http://unity3d.com/) which includes a powerful 3D graphics engine. For development we used 3D graphic primitives (squares and spheres and such), which allowed us to quickly build the game in a visual manner (simply drag and drop sound sources unto a big sphere). Other interactions also include visual elements.For example, when you fire a bullet, there is an actual 3d sphere primitive that is shot at the monster (a 3D primitive). This allows for accurate targeting, not only from left to right, but also nearby and far away. Whenever you shoot at a monster far away, you'll hear the impact a moment later compared to when you shoot from nearby. But the visuals are only used for game development and all visual rendering is turned off in the final game. We might develop blind-accessible video games in the future, but we have no concrete projects in the CreativeHeroes pipeline at this moment. Extant is the only audio game we focus on right now. Best regards, Richard http://audiogames.net http://creativehero.es - Original Message - From: Kevin Weispfennig weis...@googlemail.com Hi, Just curious, since there are graphics options, how do the graphics look like? Kevin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Extant - Control Configuration Feedback
Hi. The 3D engine business probably explains why the in game audio is so good, and now I know why I can't particularly see any game graphics other than the logo ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
