Re: [Audyssey] Newbies, manuals, and common sense was: Re: Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game
No problem but you know there is a way of saying things , and a way of sayint things. Thanks for your reply Tony At 12:15 AM 3/20/2009, you wrote: Tony wrote: it must feel really great experiencing that superior atatude. Well then can one tell this new-bewhat is discussed on this exclusive list? end quote Hi Tony, I'm not sure what is causing your hostile attitude on list here, especially as most of these folks are trying to help you out. Kelvin was just airing his opinions about folks asking questions that are answered in the manuals, bloating traffic on the list. I don't see anything superior about asking folks to use common sense to avoid wasting the time of others. I agree with Kelvin completely here. Too often people are just being lazy and not reading the manuals, then they run into something they can't figure out and instead of reading, they ask here, so they can get a quick answer. Then after that, they run into another problem they must ask about on list that was covered in the manual and so on and so on. As a developer myself, I get sick of it, it is a huge waste of time, and almost all of us game developers are one man bands with limited time and we can do without these unesesary distractions. I promise if you were a small one man developer you would feel the same way. Would you disagree here? Do you think folks shouldn't take it upon themselves to read the manuals and just rely on the rest of us to spoon feed them the information? Surely not sir. And I certainly wouldn't say you have an elitist attitude for thinking they should take some personal responsibility, nor would anyone else here that I know of. We're a friendly bunch of folks here. I know you are new to the list and all , but generally, we keep the flaming of others off list. So relax and enjoy our little list here, I think you'll find entertainment and education at the forefront. Later, Che - Original Message - From: Anthony Vitale avital...@prodigy.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game it must feel really great experiencing that superior atatude. Well then can one tell this new-bewhat is discussed on this exclusive list? Mr. Vitale At 12:27 PM 3/19/2009, you wrote: yes. many people are always too excited about playing the game and so ends up diving straight in to the game before reading and fully understanding and remember the important details in the manual. every so often, here in this list, the answers to the questions that were being asked were all found in the manual. but everyone just want to have the short cut. that's why everytime, when a new game release comes out, we get people asking how do i do this, how do i do that? and i'm sure answers to these questions can definitely be found in the manual. and game bugs are also being posted to this list, which i find it's not the right thing to do. any bugs should be posted to the mailing lists, beta/alpha of the respective game companies. everytime there is any new game release or update patch or something, the traffic of this list will sky rocket with emails asking what i call lazy questions, and also making bug reports. i think the moderator should try and keep the list traffic under control. this is a game related list, but not a game manual library or any particular game companies' alpha or beta list. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game That's what manuals are for. You'd be surprised how many people don't read them. - Original Message - From: Anthony Vitale avital...@prodigy.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game REALLY!!EVER BEEN A NEW-BE YOURSELF AND NEEDED HELP! At 12:36 PM 3/19/2009, you wrote: Hi, Amen to that. I don't know what it is but I get quite a lot of those kinds of request about this is too hard, help me figure this or that out, can you make it easier, type of requests. I wonder why it is some gamers can't just try something challenging and not make an issue out of it? Kelvin Tan wrote: hey man. it's great to hear the the fighting game is in the works. i totally agree that blind gamers should get into using the mouse for game play. but of course the ability to use the keyboard should be still available for the more old fashioned fighter who might just end up banging on what ever key on the keyboard. but i definitely agree that some special moves should only have the ability to be performed by the mouse or game pad etc. it's time we should stop spoon feeding those who are stubborn. some guys here, whenever they run into any difficulties in game play,
[Audyssey] Newbies, manuals, and common sense was: Re: Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game
Tony wrote: it must feel really great experiencing that superior atatude. Well then can one tell this new-bewhat is discussed on this exclusive list? end quote Hi Tony, I'm not sure what is causing your hostile attitude on list here, especially as most of these folks are trying to help you out. Kelvin was just airing his opinions about folks asking questions that are answered in the manuals, bloating traffic on the list. I don't see anything superior about asking folks to use common sense to avoid wasting the time of others. I agree with Kelvin completely here. Too often people are just being lazy and not reading the manuals, then they run into something they can't figure out and instead of reading, they ask here, so they can get a quick answer. Then after that, they run into another problem they must ask about on list that was covered in the manual and so on and so on. As a developer myself, I get sick of it, it is a huge waste of time, and almost all of us game developers are one man bands with limited time and we can do without these unesesary distractions. I promise if you were a small one man developer you would feel the same way. Would you disagree here? Do you think folks shouldn't take it upon themselves to read the manuals and just rely on the rest of us to spoon feed them the information? Surely not sir. And I certainly wouldn't say you have an elitist attitude for thinking they should take some personal responsibility, nor would anyone else here that I know of. We're a friendly bunch of folks here. I know you are new to the list and all , but generally, we keep the flaming of others off list. So relax and enjoy our little list here, I think you'll find entertainment and education at the forefront. Later, Che - Original Message - From: Anthony Vitale avital...@prodigy.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game it must feel really great experiencing that superior atatude. Well then can one tell this new-bewhat is discussed on this exclusive list? Mr. Vitale At 12:27 PM 3/19/2009, you wrote: yes. many people are always too excited about playing the game and so ends up diving straight in to the game before reading and fully understanding and remember the important details in the manual. every so often, here in this list, the answers to the questions that were being asked were all found in the manual. but everyone just want to have the short cut. that's why everytime, when a new game release comes out, we get people asking how do i do this, how do i do that? and i'm sure answers to these questions can definitely be found in the manual. and game bugs are also being posted to this list, which i find it's not the right thing to do. any bugs should be posted to the mailing lists, beta/alpha of the respective game companies. everytime there is any new game release or update patch or something, the traffic of this list will sky rocket with emails asking what i call lazy questions, and also making bug reports. i think the moderator should try and keep the list traffic under control. this is a game related list, but not a game manual library or any particular game companies' alpha or beta list. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game That's what manuals are for. You'd be surprised how many people don't read them. - Original Message - From: Anthony Vitale avital...@prodigy.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game REALLY!!EVER BEEN A NEW-BE YOURSELF AND NEEDED HELP! At 12:36 PM 3/19/2009, you wrote: Hi, Amen to that. I don't know what it is but I get quite a lot of those kinds of request about this is too hard, help me figure this or that out, can you make it easier, type of requests. I wonder why it is some gamers can't just try something challenging and not make an issue out of it? Kelvin Tan wrote: hey man. it's great to hear the the fighting game is in the works. i totally agree that blind gamers should get into using the mouse for game play. but of course the ability to use the keyboard should be still available for the more old fashioned fighter who might just end up banging on what ever key on the keyboard. but i definitely agree that some special moves should only have the ability to be performed by the mouse or game pad etc. it's time we should stop spoon feeding those who are stubborn. some guys here, whenever they run into any difficulties in game play, they will just comment that this game or that game is too difficult! is it possible to make it easier for me so that i can complete the game
Re: [Audyssey] Newbies, manuals, and common sense was: Re: Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game
well personally I always read through the manuals once and the key refis what I pay attention to. I generally don't bother with manuals because in most programs excluding games keys just leap out at you in menus, but I'm just lazy I read manuals when required. At 06:15 p.m. 20/03/2009, you wrote: Tony wrote: it must feel really great experiencing that superior atatude. Well then can one tell this new-bewhat is discussed on this exclusive list? end quote Hi Tony, I'm not sure what is causing your hostile attitude on list here, especially as most of these folks are trying to help you out. Kelvin was just airing his opinions about folks asking questions that are answered in the manuals, bloating traffic on the list. I don't see anything superior about asking folks to use common sense to avoid wasting the time of others. I agree with Kelvin completely here. Too often people are just being lazy and not reading the manuals, then they run into something they can't figure out and instead of reading, they ask here, so they can get a quick answer. Then after that, they run into another problem they must ask about on list that was covered in the manual and so on and so on. As a developer myself, I get sick of it, it is a huge waste of time, and almost all of us game developers are one man bands with limited time and we can do without these unesesary distractions. I promise if you were a small one man developer you would feel the same way. Would you disagree here? Do you think folks shouldn't take it upon themselves to read the manuals and just rely on the rest of us to spoon feed them the information? Surely not sir. And I certainly wouldn't say you have an elitist attitude for thinking they should take some personal responsibility, nor would anyone else here that I know of. We're a friendly bunch of folks here. I know you are new to the list and all , but generally, we keep the flaming of others off list. So relax and enjoy our little list here, I think you'll find entertainment and education at the forefront. Later, Che - Original Message - From: Anthony Vitale avital...@prodigy.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game it must feel really great experiencing that superior atatude. Well then can one tell this new-bewhat is discussed on this exclusive list? Mr. Vitale At 12:27 PM 3/19/2009, you wrote: yes. many people are always too excited about playing the game and so ends up diving straight in to the game before reading and fully understanding and remember the important details in the manual. every so often, here in this list, the answers to the questions that were being asked were all found in the manual. but everyone just want to have the short cut. that's why everytime, when a new game release comes out, we get people asking how do i do this, how do i do that? and i'm sure answers to these questions can definitely be found in the manual. and game bugs are also being posted to this list, which i find it's not the right thing to do. any bugs should be posted to the mailing lists, beta/alpha of the respective game companies. everytime there is any new game release or update patch or something, the traffic of this list will sky rocket with emails asking what i call lazy questions, and also making bug reports. i think the moderator should try and keep the list traffic unde r control. this is a game related list, but not a game manual library or any particular game companies' alpha or beta list. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game That's what manuals are for. You'd be surprised how many people don't read them. - Original Message - From: Anthony Vitale avital...@prodigy.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Adrenaline's online fighting game REALLY!!EVER BEEN A NEW-BE YOURSELF AND NEEDED HELP! At 12:36 PM 3/19/2009, you wrote: Hi, Amen to that. I don't know what it is but I get quite a lot of those kinds of request about this is too hard, help me figure this or that out, can you make it easier, type of requests. I wonder why it is some gamers can't just try something challenging and not make an issue out of it? Kelvin Tan wrote: hey man. it's great to hear the the fighting game is in the works. i totally agree that blind gamers should get into using the mouse for game play. but of course the ability to use the keyboard should be still available for the more old fashioned fighter who might just end up banging on what ever key on the keyboard. but i definitely agree that some special moves should only have the ability to be performed by the mouse
