Re: [Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine

2015-07-02 Thread dark
Well I can't help with the Frotz or tads part, though I will note that 
kerkerkruip and some other glulks titles are very rpg like if they will run 
with ios.


However for something with lots of quests and good mechanics on Ios,
Your game  is king of dragon pass. Also, Adventure to Fate battle arena is 
having a major access update that's just being cleared by apple.
The game doesn't have much by way of story, just lots of fights, but plenty 
of mechanics to play with, different classes and races to play who all have 
slightly different stratogy, item crafting and lots of other fun.
I'll post more when the update arrives (i might even try a casting of the 
pod), but that should definitely be something good for Ios, even if it is 
lacking in story.


Al the best,

Dark.
There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast 
and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even 
the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.
- Original Message - 
From: Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine


Well, I'm kinda stuck in games as it were. What I want is perhaps a 
text-based game, that works with frotz or tads or whatever works on iOS, 
that has a lot of adventuring and doing quests, a storyline that is pretty 
endepth, and good battle mechanics. Something, perhaps, like chrono 
trigger or final fantasy. Indeed, if some one has ported either of those, 
well one or more of the final fantasy series and / or chrono trigger, to 
interactive fiction that'd be perfection.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 19, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

hey shawn I'm the same way. But lately I find playing spoonbill games and 
rs-games and quenton c's games and some of the GMA-cards-games is a fun 
and relaxing passtime for me. especially learning chess. lately to 
practice offensive and defensive strategies I play against another human 
but I play chess both white and black by myself just to try out different 
moves.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982


On 6/17/2015 1:35 AM, shaun everiss wrote:
wow been out of touch lately playing ironic renpy gamebooks.
Anyway I agree with everything you have said up to this point.
I tried to program but I never got that far never had the patience to 
stick with actual code nore the wish to write programs.
While I can write stories in my head writing it down is impossible I 
never can get everything or if I do it its way to short or I forget and 
have a mindlock.
Testing and sounds are my strong point though sound recorder and shoving 
sfx together is as far as I have needed to go.
I have done some voice scripts but to be honest my hardware is budget 
and I have neither the cash or space more importantly space to store or 
use the more expensive stuff pluss my environment is just not cut out 
for that sort of thing.
I have also the lazyness issue where I tend to comit to stuff then 
suddenly get distracted or burn out  for no reason what so ever.
Then I stress that if I have something I need to do that I won't get it 
in on time etc.

Saying that the stuff I do do I try to do the best I can.
However I have never been able to work for more than 30 minutes at a 
time even less and I have to be in a mood to even do things.
This  mood can change depending on what the computer is doing or if 
something is on my plate to do or if I am completely relaxed.
Sometimes I get to a point where I feel I can string things together and 
make something sometimes I get there sometimes I don't.
Eventually though shortly before I am even done reality comes back to 
hit me again and I wander what I started and kill it till the next time.
I find it hard to stick to some tasks long term  or if something is to 
hard or needs concentration over a sertain point I find it easier to put 
it off for ever so yeah to be a developer is hard work and as far as I 
care you devs are cool an do good things.

I don't know if I will get to that stage I may do some day who knows.

At 06:33 p.m. 15/06/2015, you wrote:

Hi Mohsin ,

I can definitely understand where you are coming from because I was
where you are now a few years ago. I was a sighted gamer up until my
mid teens when I went blind, and when I went to college I had some
idea I'd get a degree in computer science and be a computer
programmer. My initial idea or dream was to write accessible computer
games equivalent to those I had ben exposed to before I lost my sight.
Stuff like Quake, Doom, Tomb Raider, Jedi Knight, Soldier of Fortune,
etc. I was convinced all I needed to do was learn to program and from
their it would be easy. As it turned out it wasn't as simple or as
straight forward as I thought.

Interesting enough I personally did not find learning programming to
be that hard. I know we are all different, some learn things easier
than others

Re: [Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine

2015-07-01 Thread Devin Prater
Well, I'm kinda stuck in games as it were. What I want is perhaps a text-based 
game, that works with frotz or tads or whatever works on iOS, that has a lot of 
adventuring and doing quests, a storyline that is pretty endepth, and good 
battle mechanics. Something, perhaps, like chrono trigger or final fantasy. 
Indeed, if some one has ported either of those, well one or more of the final 
fantasy series and / or chrono trigger, to interactive fiction that'd be 
perfection.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 19, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hey shawn I'm the same way. But lately I find playing spoonbill games and 
 rs-games and quenton c's games and some of the GMA-cards-games is a fun and 
 relaxing passtime for me. especially learning chess. lately to practice 
 offensive and defensive strategies I play against another human but I play 
 chess both white and black by myself just to try out different moves.
 
 follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
 
 On 6/17/2015 1:35 AM, shaun everiss wrote:
 wow been out of touch lately playing ironic renpy gamebooks.
 Anyway I agree with everything you have said up to this point.
 I tried to program but I never got that far never had the patience to stick 
 with actual code nore the wish to write programs.
 While I can write stories in my head writing it down is impossible I never 
 can get everything or if I do it its way to short or I forget and have a 
 mindlock.
 Testing and sounds are my strong point though sound recorder and shoving sfx 
 together is as far as I have needed to go.
 I have done some voice scripts but to be honest my hardware is budget and I 
 have neither the cash or space more importantly space to store or use the 
 more expensive stuff pluss my environment is just not cut out  for that sort 
 of thing.
 I have also the lazyness issue where I tend to comit to stuff then suddenly 
 get distracted or burn out  for no reason what so ever.
 Then I stress that if I have something I need to do that I won't get it in 
 on time etc.
 Saying that the stuff I do do I try to do the best I can.
 However I have never been able to work for more than 30 minutes at a time 
 even less and I have to be in a mood to even do things.
 This  mood can change depending on what the computer is doing or if 
 something is on my plate to do or if I am completely relaxed.
 Sometimes I get to a point where I feel I can string things together and 
 make something sometimes I get there sometimes I don't.
 Eventually though shortly before I am even done reality comes back to hit me 
 again and I wander what I started and kill it till the next time.
 I find it hard to stick to some tasks long term  or if something is to hard 
 or needs concentration over a sertain point I find it easier to put it off 
 for ever so yeah to be a developer is hard work and as far as I care you 
 devs are cool an do good things.
 I don't know if I will get to that stage I may do some day who knows.
 
 At 06:33 p.m. 15/06/2015, you wrote:
 Hi Mohsin ,
 
 I can definitely understand where you are coming from because I was
 where you are now a few years ago. I was a sighted gamer up until my
 mid teens when I went blind, and when I went to college I had some
 idea I'd get a degree in computer science and be a computer
 programmer. My initial idea or dream was to write accessible computer
 games equivalent to those I had ben exposed to before I lost my sight.
 Stuff like Quake, Doom, Tomb Raider, Jedi Knight, Soldier of Fortune,
 etc. I was convinced all I needed to do was learn to program and from
 their it would be easy. As it turned out it wasn't as simple or as
 straight forward as I thought.
 
 Interesting enough I personally did not find learning programming to
 be that hard. I know we are all different, some learn things easier
 than others, but by far learning to develop games was actually easier
 than other aspects of the process. There are a lot of problems I had
 not even imagined or considered when I decided to specialize in game
 programming. Things that were in my opinion much more difficult than
 the programming required to write a game or accessible product.
 
 One issue I see as a problem for audio game developers is advertising.
 Sure there are a few hundred blind customers on Audyssey and the Audio
 Games Forum, but the reality is they are just a small minority of the
 thousands perhaps millions of blind people world wide who are not
 connected with any audio gaming venue. Let's face it advertising via
 TV and radio can get extremely expensive. So expensive that it would
 take incredible financing to market a product that way. News Papers
 are a cheaper method of advertising games and other products, but
 there we have the problem of its not an accessible means of
 communication from an audio game developer to his/her potential blind
 customers. We can assume the majority of blind people do not read the
 morning paper and if they do an aid or family member reads 

Re: [Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine

2015-06-24 Thread Josh K
well if you have quenton c's gameroom we can then play chess against 
each other.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 6/19/2015 1:44 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
If or when we play a game of chess against each other, I wish you all 
the worst!  (rotten grin).


---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
finished, you! really! are! finished!

- Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine


I do enjoy a traditional style game occasionally, though with the 
issues I mentioned with chess and space I personally prefer something 
like Bg nomination whist or pontes backgammon myself.


Rs games I do occasionally though generally if I'm going to play with 
others across the net I prefer to do so with a more social humour 
based game like cards against humanity.


All the best,

Dark.
There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world 
is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the 
stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.

- Original Message - From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:37 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine


hey shawn I'm the same way. But lately I find playing spoonbill 
games and rs-games and quenton c's games and some of the 
GMA-cards-games is a fun and relaxing passtime for me. especially 
learning chess. lately to practice offensive and defensive 
strategies I play against another human but I play chess both white 
and black by myself just to try out different moves.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 6/17/2015 1:35 AM, shaun everiss wrote:

wow been out of touch lately playing ironic renpy gamebooks.
Anyway I agree with everything you have said up to this point.
I tried to program but I never got that far never had the patience 
to stick with actual code nore the wish to write programs.
While I can write stories in my head writing it down is impossible 
I never can get everything or if I do it its way to short or I 
forget and have a mindlock.
Testing and sounds are my strong point though sound recorder and 
shoving sfx together is as far as I have needed to go.
I have done some voice scripts but to be honest my hardware is 
budget and I have neither the cash or space more importantly space 
to store or use the more expensive stuff pluss my environment is 
just not cut out for that sort of thing.
I have also the lazyness issue where I tend to comit to stuff then 
suddenly get distracted or burn out  for no reason what so ever.
Then I stress that if I have something I need to do that I won't 
get it in on time etc.

Saying that the stuff I do do I try to do the best I can.
However I have never been able to work for more than 30 minutes at 
a time even less and I have to be in a mood to even do things.
This  mood can change depending on what the computer is doing or if 
something is on my plate to do or if I am completely relaxed.
Sometimes I get to a point where I feel I can string things 
together and make something sometimes I get there sometimes I don't.
Eventually though shortly before I am even done reality comes back 
to hit me again and I wander what I started and kill it till the 
next time.
I find it hard to stick to some tasks long term  or if something is 
to hard or needs concentration over a sertain point I find it 
easier to put it off for ever so yeah to be a developer is hard 
work and as far as I care you devs are cool an do good things.

I don't know if I will get to that stage I may do some day who knows.

At 06:33 p.m. 15/06/2015, you wrote:

Hi Mohsin ,

I can definitely understand where you are coming from because I was
where you are now a few years ago. I was a sighted gamer up until my
mid teens when I went blind, and when I went to college I had some
idea I'd get a degree in computer science and be a computer
programmer. My initial idea or dream was to write accessible computer
games equivalent to those I had ben exposed to before I lost my 
sight.

Stuff like Quake, Doom, Tomb Raider, Jedi Knight, Soldier of Fortune,
etc. I was convinced all I needed to do was learn to program and from
their it would be easy. As it turned out it wasn't as simple or as
straight forward as I thought.

Interesting enough I personally did not find learning programming to
be that hard. I know we are all different, some learn things easier
than others, but by far learning to develop games was actually easier
than other aspects of the process. There are a lot of problems I had
not even imagined or considered when I decided to specialize in game
programming. Things that were in my opinion much more difficult than
the programming required to write a game or accessible product.

One issue I see as a problem for audio game developers

Re: [Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine

2015-06-21 Thread shaun everiss

I never said all games were that bad.
The quentin games have a good engine I havn't hit it much online.
the rs stuff is good to but unlike the quentin engine say with 1000 
miles rules for if you are actually stupped and trapped are not 
inforced so you can still trap even if you are cornered and it takes 
out the frustration of playing especially when you have a human opponent.

I have not played the  all in play engine though of late.
I still play the old kitchensinc games when I have a few minutes.

At 02:37 a.m. 20/06/2015, you wrote:
hey shawn I'm the same way. But lately I find playing spoonbill 
games and rs-games and quenton c's games and some of the 
GMA-cards-games is a fun and relaxing passtime for me. especially 
learning chess. lately to practice offensive and defensive 
strategies I play against another human but I play chess both white 
and black by myself just to try out different moves.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 6/17/2015 1:35 AM, shaun everiss wrote:

wow been out of touch lately playing ironic renpy gamebooks.
Anyway I agree with everything you have said up to this point.
I tried to program but I never got that far never had the patience 
to stick with actual code nore the wish to write programs.
While I can write stories in my head writing it down is impossible 
I never can get everything or if I do it its way to short or I 
forget and have a mindlock.
Testing and sounds are my strong point though sound recorder and 
shoving sfx together is as far as I have needed to go.
I have done some voice scripts but to be honest my hardware is 
budget and I have neither the cash or space more importantly space 
to store or use the more expensive stuff pluss my environment is 
just not cut out  for that sort of thing.
I have also the lazyness issue where I tend to comit to stuff then 
suddenly get distracted or burn out  for no reason what so ever.
Then I stress that if I have something I need to do that I won't 
get it in on time etc.

Saying that the stuff I do do I try to do the best I can.
However I have never been able to work for more than 30 minutes at 
a time even less and I have to be in a mood to even do things.
This  mood can change depending on what the computer is doing or if 
something is on my plate to do or if I am completely relaxed.
Sometimes I get to a point where I feel I can string things 
together and make something sometimes I get there sometimes I don't.
Eventually though shortly before I am even done reality comes back 
to hit me again and I wander what I started and kill it till the next time.
I find it hard to stick to some tasks long term  or if something is 
to hard or needs concentration over a sertain point I find it 
easier to put it off for ever so yeah to be a developer is hard 
work and as far as I care you devs are cool an do good things.

I don't know if I will get to that stage I may do some day who knows.

At 06:33 p.m. 15/06/2015, you wrote:

Hi Mohsin ,

I can definitely understand where you are coming from because I was
where you are now a few years ago. I was a sighted gamer up until my
mid teens when I went blind, and when I went to college I had some
idea I'd get a degree in computer science and be a computer
programmer. My initial idea or dream was to write accessible computer
games equivalent to those I had ben exposed to before I lost my sight.
Stuff like Quake, Doom, Tomb Raider, Jedi Knight, Soldier of Fortune,
etc. I was convinced all I needed to do was learn to program and from
their it would be easy. As it turned out it wasn't as simple or as
straight forward as I thought.

Interesting enough I personally did not find learning programming to
be that hard. I know we are all different, some learn things easier
than others, but by far learning to develop games was actually easier
than other aspects of the process. There are a lot of problems I had
not even imagined or considered when I decided to specialize in game
programming. Things that were in my opinion much more difficult than
the programming required to write a game or accessible product.

One issue I see as a problem for audio game developers is advertising.
Sure there are a few hundred blind customers on Audyssey and the Audio
Games Forum, but the reality is they are just a small minority of the
thousands perhaps millions of blind people world wide who are not
connected with any audio gaming venue. Let's face it advertising via
TV and radio can get extremely expensive. So expensive that it would
take incredible financing to market a product that way. News Papers
are a cheaper method of advertising games and other products, but
there we have the problem of its not an accessible means of
communication from an audio game developer to his/her potential blind
customers. We can assume the majority of blind people do not read the
morning paper and if they do an aid or family member reads it to them
meaning that the best we can hope for that a friend or family member
brings it to 

Re: [Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine

2015-06-21 Thread Charles Rivard
If or when we play a game of chess against each other, I wish you all the 
worst!  (rotten grin).


---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, 
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine


I do enjoy a traditional style game occasionally, though with the issues I 
mentioned with chess and space I personally prefer something like Bg 
nomination whist or  pontes backgammon myself.


Rs games I do occasionally though generally if I'm going to play with 
others across the net I prefer to do so with a more social humour based 
game like cards against humanity.


All the best,

Dark.
There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is 
vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than 
even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.
- Original Message - 
From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:37 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine


hey shawn I'm the same way. But lately I find playing spoonbill games and 
rs-games and quenton c's games and some of the GMA-cards-games is a fun 
and relaxing passtime for me. especially learning chess. lately to 
practice offensive and defensive strategies I play against another human 
but I play chess both white and black by myself just to try out different 
moves.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 6/17/2015 1:35 AM, shaun everiss wrote:

wow been out of touch lately playing ironic renpy gamebooks.
Anyway I agree with everything you have said up to this point.
I tried to program but I never got that far never had the patience to 
stick with actual code nore the wish to write programs.
While I can write stories in my head writing it down is impossible I 
never can get everything or if I do it its way to short or I forget and 
have a mindlock.
Testing and sounds are my strong point though sound recorder and shoving 
sfx together is as far as I have needed to go.
I have done some voice scripts but to be honest my hardware is budget 
and I have neither the cash or space more importantly space to store or 
use the more expensive stuff pluss my environment is just not cut out 
for that sort of thing.
I have also the lazyness issue where I tend to comit to stuff then 
suddenly get distracted or burn out  for no reason what so ever.
Then I stress that if I have something I need to do that I won't get it 
in on time etc.

Saying that the stuff I do do I try to do the best I can.
However I have never been able to work for more than 30 minutes at a 
time even less and I have to be in a mood to even do things.
This  mood can change depending on what the computer is doing or if 
something is on my plate to do or if I am completely relaxed.
Sometimes I get to a point where I feel I can string things together and 
make something sometimes I get there sometimes I don't.
Eventually though shortly before I am even done reality comes back to 
hit me again and I wander what I started and kill it till the next time.
I find it hard to stick to some tasks long term  or if something is to 
hard or needs concentration over a sertain point I find it easier to put 
it off for ever so yeah to be a developer is hard work and as far as I 
care you devs are cool an do good things.

I don't know if I will get to that stage I may do some day who knows.

At 06:33 p.m. 15/06/2015, you wrote:

Hi Mohsin ,

I can definitely understand where you are coming from because I was
where you are now a few years ago. I was a sighted gamer up until my
mid teens when I went blind, and when I went to college I had some
idea I'd get a degree in computer science and be a computer
programmer. My initial idea or dream was to write accessible computer
games equivalent to those I had ben exposed to before I lost my sight.
Stuff like Quake, Doom, Tomb Raider, Jedi Knight, Soldier of Fortune,
etc. I was convinced all I needed to do was learn to program and from
their it would be easy. As it turned out it wasn't as simple or as
straight forward as I thought.

Interesting enough I personally did not find learning programming to
be that hard. I know we are all different, some learn things easier
than others, but by far learning to develop games was actually easier
than other aspects of the process. There are a lot of problems I had
not even imagined or considered when I decided to specialize in game
programming. Things that were in my opinion much more difficult than
the programming required to write a game or accessible product.

One issue I see as a problem for audio game developers is advertising.
Sure there are a few hundred blind customers on Audyssey and the Audio
Games Forum, but the reality is they are just a small minority of the
thousands

[Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine

2015-06-19 Thread Josh K
hey shawn I'm the same way. But lately I find playing spoonbill games 
and rs-games and quenton c's games and some of the GMA-cards-games is a 
fun and relaxing passtime for me. especially learning chess. lately to 
practice offensive and defensive strategies I play against another human 
but I play chess both white and black by myself just to try out 
different moves.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 6/17/2015 1:35 AM, shaun everiss wrote:

wow been out of touch lately playing ironic renpy gamebooks.
Anyway I agree with everything you have said up to this point.
I tried to program but I never got that far never had the patience to 
stick with actual code nore the wish to write programs.
While I can write stories in my head writing it down is impossible I 
never can get everything or if I do it its way to short or I forget 
and have a mindlock.
Testing and sounds are my strong point though sound recorder and 
shoving sfx together is as far as I have needed to go.
I have done some voice scripts but to be honest my hardware is budget 
and I have neither the cash or space more importantly space to store 
or use the more expensive stuff pluss my environment is just not cut 
out  for that sort of thing.
I have also the lazyness issue where I tend to comit to stuff then 
suddenly get distracted or burn out  for no reason what so ever.
Then I stress that if I have something I need to do that I won't get 
it in on time etc.

Saying that the stuff I do do I try to do the best I can.
However I have never been able to work for more than 30 minutes at a 
time even less and I have to be in a mood to even do things.
This  mood can change depending on what the computer is doing or if 
something is on my plate to do or if I am completely relaxed.
Sometimes I get to a point where I feel I can string things together 
and make something sometimes I get there sometimes I don't.
Eventually though shortly before I am even done reality comes back to 
hit me again and I wander what I started and kill it till the next time.
I find it hard to stick to some tasks long term  or if something is to 
hard or needs concentration over a sertain point I find it easier to 
put it off for ever so yeah to be a developer is hard work and as far 
as I care you devs are cool an do good things.

I don't know if I will get to that stage I may do some day who knows.

At 06:33 p.m. 15/06/2015, you wrote:

Hi Mohsin ,

I can definitely understand where you are coming from because I was
where you are now a few years ago. I was a sighted gamer up until my
mid teens when I went blind, and when I went to college I had some
idea I'd get a degree in computer science and be a computer
programmer. My initial idea or dream was to write accessible computer
games equivalent to those I had ben exposed to before I lost my sight.
Stuff like Quake, Doom, Tomb Raider, Jedi Knight, Soldier of Fortune,
etc. I was convinced all I needed to do was learn to program and from
their it would be easy. As it turned out it wasn't as simple or as
straight forward as I thought.

Interesting enough I personally did not find learning programming to
be that hard. I know we are all different, some learn things easier
than others, but by far learning to develop games was actually easier
than other aspects of the process. There are a lot of problems I had
not even imagined or considered when I decided to specialize in game
programming. Things that were in my opinion much more difficult than
the programming required to write a game or accessible product.

One issue I see as a problem for audio game developers is advertising.
Sure there are a few hundred blind customers on Audyssey and the Audio
Games Forum, but the reality is they are just a small minority of the
thousands perhaps millions of blind people world wide who are not
connected with any audio gaming venue. Let's face it advertising via
TV and radio can get extremely expensive. So expensive that it would
take incredible financing to market a product that way. News Papers
are a cheaper method of advertising games and other products, but
there we have the problem of its not an accessible means of
communication from an audio game developer to his/her potential blind
customers. We can assume the majority of blind people do not read the
morning paper and if they do an aid or family member reads it to them
meaning that the best we can hope for that a friend or family member
brings it to the blind persons attention. Regardless of the method and
means a developer looks at it is going to cost a lot of money to get
the word out about their product, and there does not seem to be a good
method to market a product to the blind community at large at this
time.

Another difficulty is just demographics and age. It is a well known
fact that the majority of people with vision problems today are senior
citizens who are 60 or older. In other words people who are
grandparents who likely have different interests than their grandkids
in 

Re: [Audyssey] chess was Re: info AudioGames Game Engine

2015-06-19 Thread dark
I do enjoy a traditional style game occasionally, though with the issues I 
mentioned with chess and space I personally prefer something like Bg 
nomination whist or  pontes backgammon myself.


Rs games I do occasionally though generally if I'm going to play with others 
across the net I prefer to do so with a more social humour based game like 
cards against humanity.


All the best,

Dark.
There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast 
and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even 
the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.
- Original Message - 
From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
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hey shawn I'm the same way. But lately I find playing spoonbill games and 
rs-games and quenton c's games and some of the GMA-cards-games is a fun 
and relaxing passtime for me. especially learning chess. lately to 
practice offensive and defensive strategies I play against another human 
but I play chess both white and black by myself just to try out different 
moves.


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On 6/17/2015 1:35 AM, shaun everiss wrote:

wow been out of touch lately playing ironic renpy gamebooks.
Anyway I agree with everything you have said up to this point.
I tried to program but I never got that far never had the patience to 
stick with actual code nore the wish to write programs.
While I can write stories in my head writing it down is impossible I 
never can get everything or if I do it its way to short or I forget and 
have a mindlock.
Testing and sounds are my strong point though sound recorder and shoving 
sfx together is as far as I have needed to go.
I have done some voice scripts but to be honest my hardware is budget and 
I have neither the cash or space more importantly space to store or use 
the more expensive stuff pluss my environment is just not cut out  for 
that sort of thing.
I have also the lazyness issue where I tend to comit to stuff then 
suddenly get distracted or burn out  for no reason what so ever.
Then I stress that if I have something I need to do that I won't get it 
in on time etc.

Saying that the stuff I do do I try to do the best I can.
However I have never been able to work for more than 30 minutes at a time 
even less and I have to be in a mood to even do things.
This  mood can change depending on what the computer is doing or if 
something is on my plate to do or if I am completely relaxed.
Sometimes I get to a point where I feel I can string things together and 
make something sometimes I get there sometimes I don't.
Eventually though shortly before I am even done reality comes back to hit 
me again and I wander what I started and kill it till the next time.
I find it hard to stick to some tasks long term  or if something is to 
hard or needs concentration over a sertain point I find it easier to put 
it off for ever so yeah to be a developer is hard work and as far as I 
care you devs are cool an do good things.

I don't know if I will get to that stage I may do some day who knows.

At 06:33 p.m. 15/06/2015, you wrote:

Hi Mohsin ,

I can definitely understand where you are coming from because I was
where you are now a few years ago. I was a sighted gamer up until my
mid teens when I went blind, and when I went to college I had some
idea I'd get a degree in computer science and be a computer
programmer. My initial idea or dream was to write accessible computer
games equivalent to those I had ben exposed to before I lost my sight.
Stuff like Quake, Doom, Tomb Raider, Jedi Knight, Soldier of Fortune,
etc. I was convinced all I needed to do was learn to program and from
their it would be easy. As it turned out it wasn't as simple or as
straight forward as I thought.

Interesting enough I personally did not find learning programming to
be that hard. I know we are all different, some learn things easier
than others, but by far learning to develop games was actually easier
than other aspects of the process. There are a lot of problems I had
not even imagined or considered when I decided to specialize in game
programming. Things that were in my opinion much more difficult than
the programming required to write a game or accessible product.

One issue I see as a problem for audio game developers is advertising.
Sure there are a few hundred blind customers on Audyssey and the Audio
Games Forum, but the reality is they are just a small minority of the
thousands perhaps millions of blind people world wide who are not
connected with any audio gaming venue. Let's face it advertising via
TV and radio can get extremely expensive. So expensive that it would
take incredible financing to market a product that way. News Papers
are a cheaper method of advertising games and other products, but
there we have the problem of its not an accessible means of
communication from an audio game

Re: [Audyssey] Chess or Mahjong

2015-06-12 Thread Jeremy Brown
Thanks Dark, I'll pursue this further.  I am interested enough, both
as a blind gamer myself, and as a designer in the challenges, that I
don't want to totally give this up, but right now, I have several
other irons in the fire, and this did not turn out quite as simple a
situation as I was hoping.  (Is it ever?)  Take care,

Jeremy



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 I actually went and  researched Mahjong in response to this topic.

 A lot of the complexity of coding such a beast would be your
 definition of what Mahjong is.

 There's apparently a number of different variations ranging from
 relatively simple to immensely complex.  Our card game Rummy is based
 on it.  I studied a couple of simpler multi-player versions, and had a
 simpler solitaire set up explained to me by my wife.  The game's setup
 as a solitaire game presents some unique challenges in an audio
 environment, having multiple levels, some of which you can see only
 partially that all must be displayed more or less simultaneously.  In
 the traditional games, the challenge is more one of mastering the rule
 sets well enough to create a game that accurately reproduces the game
 play.

 Warning: I did not investigate American Mahjong extensively because it
 appears much simpler and more derivative from the original versions.
 That said, it might be a way to progress.  If I were to attempt it,
 with the help of my pet coder (hi Aaron! that's you), I'd lean toward
 doing a multi-player version based on the Hong Kong old style rules I
 studied.  They seemed simple enough to master relatively easily,
 complex enough to be interesting, and different enough from card games
 to present a unique challenge.  That said, I don't see it happening
 any time soon.  I need to get a Mahjong set and experiment with it
 before I could design an AI that played even reasonably well.

 Take care,

 Jeremy


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 I believe the game toodle tiles from american printing house for the blind
 was based on the solo version of mahjong, or one of them at any rate, but to

 be honest between the game's serious repackaging as a gamefirmly and
 distinctly aimed at children (even the documentation is written to sell to
 teachers), and the fact I've never got the demo of the bloody thing to work,

 I can't say for certain either way.

 Still, you can find links on audiogames.net. Once upon a time there was a
 podcast about the game which I heard (which is where I know a little from),

 but god knows where it has gone, I believe it was on the noew defunked
 blindcooltech.



 All the best,

 Dark.
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 From: Jeremy Brown tyr...@gmail.com
 To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:23 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong


I actually went and  researched Mahjong in response to this topic.

 A lot of the complexity of coding such a beast would be your
 definition of what Mahjong is.

 There's apparently a number of different variations ranging from
 relatively simple to immensely complex.  Our card game Rummy is based
 on it.  I studied a couple of simpler multi-player versions, and had a
 simpler solitaire set up explained to me by my wife.  The game's setup
 as a solitaire game presents some unique challenges in an audio
 environment, having multiple levels, some of which you can see only
 partially that all must be displayed more or less simultaneously.  In
 the traditional games, the challenge is more one of mastering the rule
 sets well enough to create a game that accurately reproduces the game
 play.

 Warning: I did not investigate American

Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?

2015-06-11 Thread dark
The spoonbill games do tend to be very well designed and put together, even 
their simpler ones like mastermind with lots of random features etc.


I haven't particularly got into their chess challenge game sinse I don't 
find I can play chess looking at a board square by square but would want the 
hole board in front of me, but I am rather fond of their whist and cribbage 
games. Their hearts is good too though I can usually wipe the floor with the 
computer on that one :D.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?


thanks, sounds good I just ordered it along with 3 or 4 of their other 
games.


Josh

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On 6/10/2015 5:50 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

What about the spoonbill chess game for PC?

http://www.spoonbillsoftware.com.au/bgchess.htm

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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?



its too bad the windows chess can't have an NVDA addon to make it more
accessible. it is mostly accessible i think but I'm not sure what 
keyboard
commands to use to play it. the windows7 chess titans game that is. I 
can

arrow over the board no problem. it reads the board and pieces and if
spaces are empty. i don't think it would take much to make it completely
accessible plus its free.

Josh

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 6/10/2015 4:46 AM, dark wrote:

There are the two Kchess games, elite and advanced from arc angle
software that have play against the computer, I've also heard shreader
for Ios is accessible though I'm not certain on that one.

As for Mahjong unfortunately not that I know, indeed I slightly wish
there were sinse I have never played Mahjong but would be interested in
learning.

All the best,

Dark.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 11:41 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?



hi
are there any accessible chess or mahjong games where you can play
against the computer?

Josh

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[Audyssey] chess or mahjong

2015-06-11 Thread Jeremy Brown
I actually went and  researched Mahjong in response to this topic.

A lot of the complexity of coding such a beast would be your
definition of what Mahjong is.

There's apparently a number of different variations ranging from
relatively simple to immensely complex.  Our card game Rummy is based
on it.  I studied a couple of simpler multi-player versions, and had a
simpler solitaire set up explained to me by my wife.  The game's setup
as a solitaire game presents some unique challenges in an audio
environment, having multiple levels, some of which you can see only
partially that all must be displayed more or less simultaneously.  In
the traditional games, the challenge is more one of mastering the rule
sets well enough to create a game that accurately reproduces the game
play.

Warning: I did not investigate American Mahjong extensively because it
appears much simpler and more derivative from the original versions.
That said, it might be a way to progress.  If I were to attempt it,
with the help of my pet coder (hi Aaron! that's you), I'd lean toward
doing a multi-player version based on the Hong Kong old style rules I
studied.  They seemed simple enough to master relatively easily,
complex enough to be interesting, and different enough from card games
to present a unique challenge.  That said, I don't see it happening
any time soon.  I need to get a Mahjong set and experiment with it
before I could design an AI that played even reasonably well.

Take care,

Jeremy


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Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong

2015-06-11 Thread dark
I believe the game toodle tiles from american printing house for the blind 
was based on the solo version of mahjong, or one of them at any rate, but to 
be honest between the game's serious repackaging as a gamefirmly and 
distinctly aimed at children (even the documentation is written to sell to 
teachers), and the fact I've never got the demo of the bloody thing to work, 
I can't say for certain either way.


Still, you can find links on audiogames.net. Once upon a time there was a 
podcast about the game which I heard (which is where I know a little from), 
but god knows where it has gone, I believe it was on the noew defunked 
blindcooltech.




All the best,

Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:23 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong



I actually went and  researched Mahjong in response to this topic.

A lot of the complexity of coding such a beast would be your
definition of what Mahjong is.

There's apparently a number of different variations ranging from
relatively simple to immensely complex.  Our card game Rummy is based
on it.  I studied a couple of simpler multi-player versions, and had a
simpler solitaire set up explained to me by my wife.  The game's setup
as a solitaire game presents some unique challenges in an audio
environment, having multiple levels, some of which you can see only
partially that all must be displayed more or less simultaneously.  In
the traditional games, the challenge is more one of mastering the rule
sets well enough to create a game that accurately reproduces the game
play.

Warning: I did not investigate American Mahjong extensively because it
appears much simpler and more derivative from the original versions.
That said, it might be a way to progress.  If I were to attempt it,
with the help of my pet coder (hi Aaron! that's you), I'd lean toward
doing a multi-player version based on the Hong Kong old style rules I
studied.  They seemed simple enough to master relatively easily,
complex enough to be interesting, and different enough from card games
to present a unique challenge.  That said, I don't see it happening
any time soon.  I need to get a Mahjong set and experiment with it
before I could design an AI that played even reasonably well.

Take care,

Jeremy


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Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?

2015-06-10 Thread dark
There are the two Kchess games, elite and advanced from arc angle software 
that have play against the computer, I've also heard shreader for Ios is 
accessible though I'm not certain on that one.


As for Mahjong unfortunately not that I know, indeed I slightly wish there 
were sinse I have never played Mahjong but would be interested in learning.


All the best,

Dark.
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hi
are there any accessible chess or mahjong games where you can play against 
the computer?


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Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?

2015-06-10 Thread Charles Rivard
re you looking for an app for an iDevice? or are you looking for a program 
for your PC?


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Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?

2015-06-10 Thread Josh K
its too bad the windows chess can't have an NVDA addon to make it more 
accessible. it is mostly accessible i think but I'm not sure what 
keyboard commands to use to play it. the windows7 chess titans game that 
is. I can arrow over the board no problem. it reads the board and pieces 
and if spaces are empty. i don't think it would take much to make it 
completely accessible plus its free.


Josh

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 6/10/2015 4:46 AM, dark wrote:
There are the two Kchess games, elite and advanced from arc angle 
software that have play against the computer, I've also heard shreader 
for Ios is accessible though I'm not certain on that one.


As for Mahjong unfortunately not that I know, indeed I slightly wish 
there were sinse I have never played Mahjong but would be interested 
in learning.


All the best,

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?

2015-06-10 Thread Josh K
a program for my pc. chess titans that comes with winidows7 seems to be 
pretty accessible but I'm not sure how to play it with the keyboard.


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On 6/10/2015 12:26 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
re you looking for an app for an iDevice? or are you looking for a 
program for your PC?


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Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?

2015-06-10 Thread Jacob Kruger

What about the spoonbill chess game for PC?

http://www.spoonbillsoftware.com.au/bgchess.htm

Jacob Kruger
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?



its too bad the windows chess can't have an NVDA addon to make it more
accessible. it is mostly accessible i think but I'm not sure what keyboard
commands to use to play it. the windows7 chess titans game that is. I can
arrow over the board no problem. it reads the board and pieces and if
spaces are empty. i don't think it would take much to make it completely
accessible plus its free.

Josh

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 6/10/2015 4:46 AM, dark wrote:

There are the two Kchess games, elite and advanced from arc angle
software that have play against the computer, I've also heard shreader
for Ios is accessible though I'm not certain on that one.

As for Mahjong unfortunately not that I know, indeed I slightly wish
there were sinse I have never played Mahjong but would be interested in
learning.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 11:41 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?



hi
are there any accessible chess or mahjong games where you can play
against the computer?

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Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?

2015-06-10 Thread Josh K
thanks, sounds good I just ordered it along with 3 or 4 of their other 
games.


Josh

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On 6/10/2015 5:50 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

What about the spoonbill chess game for PC?

http://www.spoonbillsoftware.com.au/bgchess.htm

Jacob Kruger
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- Original Message - From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?



its too bad the windows chess can't have an NVDA addon to make it more
accessible. it is mostly accessible i think but I'm not sure what 
keyboard
commands to use to play it. the windows7 chess titans game that is. I 
can

arrow over the board no problem. it reads the board and pieces and if
spaces are empty. i don't think it would take much to make it completely
accessible plus its free.

Josh

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 6/10/2015 4:46 AM, dark wrote:

There are the two Kchess games, elite and advanced from arc angle
software that have play against the computer, I've also heard shreader
for Ios is accessible though I'm not certain on that one.

As for Mahjong unfortunately not that I know, indeed I slightly wish
there were sinse I have never played Mahjong but would be interested in
learning.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 11:41 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?



hi
are there any accessible chess or mahjong games where you can play
against the computer?

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Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?

2015-06-10 Thread Travis Siegel
the chess game that comes with OSX for the mac is completely accessible, but 
few folks on list have a mac, so ...

On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Josh K wrote:

 hi
 are there any accessible chess or mahjong games where you can play against 
 the computer?
 
 Josh
 
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Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?

2015-06-10 Thread Charles Rivard
Shredder Chess for the iPhone is very accessible.  I use it extensively. 
The only thing that I find that you cannot do using Voice-Over is to set up 
and play from a position.


As for the Arkangles software, the Elite is the one that I would prefer.  It 
is better than the Advanced.


Speaking of chess, for those interested, there are two chess events at a 
voice chat site, and signing up is free and pain less.  Check out


www.Out-Of-Sight.net


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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?


There are the two Kchess games, elite and advanced from arc angle software 
that have play against the computer, I've also heard shreader for Ios is 
accessible though I'm not certain on that one.


As for Mahjong unfortunately not that I know, indeed I slightly wish there 
were sinse I have never played Mahjong but would be interested in 
learning.


All the best,

Dark.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 11:41 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] chess or mahjong?



hi
are there any accessible chess or mahjong games where you can play 
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[Audyssey] chess or mahjong?

2015-06-09 Thread Josh K

hi
are there any accessible chess or mahjong games where you can play 
against the computer?


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[Audyssey] chess

2014-06-30 Thread Shaun Everiss

Hi.
this appeared in tidbits tonight
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001T6KHyQJ3MPqfNdyzPplmTgOOPfsmO2wCdB0CbB4zkqZ6jCAUuDHq-skQMbcJ_j8ZMT81gtpb5BYrQDGVlq70Dlcekfl5ABZy3cjebjPP2_XHvjRrD-qe6-mc-NrrJbu8Q6DS6qczC396-Xp9YLCA7K2UK74XgCgjYVyoQ4oUxdQE1rmymxClGpy8MHZT3VOn4g_oTVbzsPVhwL7cY8Elc0M8C4zq2Sud1FNdxKkr--Bsr8KylsNC3w==c=zQNTuL1z2kr8tmjfdw5VrBBDSSRU8CeB_rMgFyOHdJyL7vTxQrN8Lg==ch=yvhTibDCuDpCmZvour0KNrbJzqokx3NtMLlhU6KuwA3r46YNwz10aQ==http://en.lichess.org/blog/U5AX_DcAADkAz-L5/accessibility-for-blind-players
Its supposed to be accessable but I rarely touch the board these days.



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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-30 Thread Bryan Peterson
Yup. And you can keep it if you complete the entire course. I still have 
mine.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:32 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

Hello Keith,

The best way to learn Chess as a blind gamer is to sign up for the
Chess course from Hadley School for the Blind. The course is fully
accessible and you even get an accessible Chess set as a student.

Cheers!


On 6/27/14, Keith S ks.steinbac...@gmail.com wrote:
can anyone suggest the best way for me to learn how to play chess as a 
blind
person?  I played when I had sight, but the notation method is confusing 
the

crap out of me.

Thanks

Keith
Blind but not Useless
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Re: [Audyssey] chess

2014-06-30 Thread Charles Rivard
In general, I don't visit a URL unless I have information on it.  If someone 
suggests that I click here, I want to know why I should do so.  What is 
there that may be of interest?  With that in mind, can you give more 
details?  Thanks.


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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 4:01 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] chess



Hi.
this appeared in tidbits tonight
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001T6KHyQJ3MPqfNdyzPplmTgOOPfsmO2wCdB0CbB4zkqZ6jCAUuDHq-skQMbcJ_j8ZMT81gtpb5BYrQDGVlq70Dlcekfl5ABZy3cjebjPP2_XHvjRrD-qe6-mc-NrrJbu8Q6DS6qczC396-Xp9YLCA7K2UK74XgCgjYVyoQ4oUxdQE1rmymxClGpy8MHZT3VOn4g_oTVbzsPVhwL7cY8Elc0M8C4zq2Sud1FNdxKkr--Bsr8KylsNC3w==c=zQNTuL1z2kr8tmjfdw5VrBBDSSRU8CeB_rMgFyOHdJyL7vTxQrN8Lg==ch=yvhTibDCuDpCmZvour0KNrbJzqokx3NtMLlhU6KuwA3r46YNwz10aQ==http://en.lichess.org/blog/U5AX_DcAADkAz-L5/accessibility-for-blind-players
Its supposed to be accessable but I rarely touch the board these days.



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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-30 Thread hayden presley
Hi,
I believe this may have gotten lost in the ether, as I myself did not get
the eMail I sent, but I recall Charles mentioning that Shredder for the PC
is accessible. TO what extent is this true? So far, I've gotten it to read
its moves back to me, but not to see any representation o fthe chess board
from withn shredder itself.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan
Peterson
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:32 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

Yup. And you can keep it if you complete the entire course. I still have
mine.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:32 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

Hello Keith,

The best way to learn Chess as a blind gamer is to sign up for the
Chess course from Hadley School for the Blind. The course is fully
accessible and you even get an accessible Chess set as a student.

Cheers!


On 6/27/14, Keith S ks.steinbac...@gmail.com wrote:
 can anyone suggest the best way for me to learn how to play chess as a 
 blind
 person?  I played when I had sight, but the notation method is confusing 
 the
 crap out of me.

 Thanks

 Keith
 Blind but not Useless
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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-29 Thread Harmony Neil
In terms of the physical boards, I have a peg type one, with the points on the 
black pieces. Mine is pretty big so keep it set up, but I have heard there are 
travel sets for the blind as well.  I’ve never been any good at the computer 
version fo chess games, since I’m used to looking at the board to find where 
the pieces are.  Blind chess sets can be rather interesting to try and play 
with sighted people, because sometimes the pieces don’t look anything like a 
standard set.  I did have someone try and mark up a normal set once, but it 
didn’t work too well, since it wasn’t easy to distinguish between the black and 
white squares and the bumpons kept falling off the appropriate pieces.
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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-29 Thread Charles Rivard
You say:   I’ve never been any good at the computer version fo chess games, 
since I’m used to looking at the board to find where the pieces are.  I 
ask:  So, why not use your board and men, making the moves spoken by the 
computer program?  Then you can scope out your own board to determine your 
move and enter it into the computer program?  That's what I do, and it 
works perfectly.  If the machine tells you to move a knight to f6, make the 
move on your board.  If your next move is a bishop from C1 to G5, instruct 
the computer that this is your move.


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Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


In terms of the physical boards, I have a peg type one, with the points on 
the black pieces. Mine is pretty big so keep it set up, but I have heard 
there are travel sets for the blind as well.  I’ve never been any good at 
the computer version fo chess games, since I’m used to looking at the board 
to find where the pieces are.  Blind chess sets can be rather interesting to 
try and play with sighted people, because sometimes the pieces don’t look 
anything like a standard set.  I did have someone try and mark up a normal 
set once, but it didn’t work too well, since it wasn’t easy to distinguish 
between the black and white squares and the bumpons kept falling off the 
appropriate pieces.

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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-29 Thread hayden presley
Interestingly, I've gotten to the point where I almost do better on the
computer than on the board. I think so much in coordinates that that seems
to work better for me.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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Rivard
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:58 PM
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You say:   I've never been any good at the computer version fo chess games,
since I'm used to looking at the board to find where the pieces are.  I
ask:  So, why not use your board and men, making the moves spoken by the
computer program?  Then you can scope out your own board to determine your
move and enter it into the computer program?  That's what I do, and it
works perfectly.  If the machine tells you to move a knight to f6, make the
move on your board.  If your next move is a bishop from C1 to G5, instruct
the computer that this is your move.

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


In terms of the physical boards, I have a peg type one, with the points on
the black pieces. Mine is pretty big so keep it set up, but I have heard
there are travel sets for the blind as well.  I've never been any good at
the computer version fo chess games, since I'm used to looking at the board
to find where the pieces are.  Blind chess sets can be rather interesting to
try and play with sighted people, because sometimes the pieces don't look
anything like a standard set.  I did have someone try and mark up a normal
set once, but it didn't work too well, since it wasn't easy to distinguish
between the black and white squares and the bumpons kept falling off the
appropriate pieces.
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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Keith,

The best way to learn Chess as a blind gamer is to sign up for the
Chess course from Hadley School for the Blind. The course is fully
accessible and you even get an accessible Chess set as a student.

Cheers!


On 6/27/14, Keith S ks.steinbac...@gmail.com wrote:
 can anyone suggest the best way for me to learn how to play chess as a blind
 person?  I played when I had sight, but the notation method is confusing the
 crap out of me.

 Thanks

 Keith
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[Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread Keith S
can anyone suggest the best way for me to learn how to play chess as a blind 
person?  I played when I had sight, but the notation method is confusing the 
crap out of me.

Thanks

Keith
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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread dark
My personal advice would be to get a tactile chess set (sometimes called a 
braille chess set, even though they don't have braille on them), and start 
playing live against a human.


To explain these are sets where there are holes in each square on the board 
and the peaces are on pegs so you can put your mits on the board without 
knocking them over, one side (usually the white, though not always), has 
pins on the top to tell them apart. I'm not sure where you'd get one from in 
your part of the world, they tend to be sold by the same places who sell 
braille cards, dice etc.


Personally, while I understand chess notation, I find it near impossible to 
hold spacial information about the board in mind without the board. I want 
to put my hand on the white knight and my other finger on the square it will 
move to, and then put my fingers (and to a very much lesser extent my 
disfunctional eyeballs), on the surrounding squares and see if that move 
will be a bad or good one.


This is why I've never got on with the various audio Chess games like 
BGChess challenge, Kchess elite etc. Sinse while they have some good audio 
overviews for the board, fundamentally you are still just getting the 
information square by square, and I don't find myself able to old enough 
spacial information about the board in mind for that sort of overview to 
really help me or make it possible for me to play chess.


Of course this is me, and I will freely admit my spacial coordination is 
pretty cruddy, (even in mobility I tend to substitute routes and land mark 
memory instead of working out where I am spacially), you might be different 
though I'm guessing by your comment you could be in a similar position, 
hence my suggestion of a tactile chess set.


Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread Bryan Peterson
Well the Hadley School for the Blind offers two free chess courses, Chess 
for Beginners and Chess: Principles and Strategies. You even get a free 
chess set with the first course which is yours to keep after you complete 
it. Each course has I believe six lessons, each with an accompanying 
assignment. The chess set is really nice as well. I still have mine from 
eight years ago, though I don't play so much these days.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Keith S

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 6:45 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

can anyone suggest the best way for me to learn how to play chess as a blind 
person?  I played when I had sight, but the notation method is confusing the 
crap out of me.


Thanks

Keith
Blind but not Useless
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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread Bryan Peterson
I agreeDark. Tat's wy I don't play onlie, even though you can get a free 
year of membership to an online Chess community for completing both of the 
two Ches courses offered by the Hadley School here in the US. Their chess 
set, which is included with their beginner's course, is really nice. It not 
only has the pegs and holes for easy piece placement and the pins denoting 
white and black pieces (in this case I believe it's the black ones), but the 
board is also brailled. The white side says wite and the other black, but 
the ranks and files are also denoted with letters and numbers.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: dark

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 7:11 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

My personal advice would be to get a tactile chess set (sometimes called a
braille chess set, even though they don't have braille on them), and start
playing live against a human.

To explain these are sets where there are holes in each square on the board
and the peaces are on pegs so you can put your mits on the board without
knocking them over, one side (usually the white, though not always), has
pins on the top to tell them apart. I'm not sure where you'd get one from in
your part of the world, they tend to be sold by the same places who sell
braille cards, dice etc.

Personally, while I understand chess notation, I find it near impossible to
hold spacial information about the board in mind without the board. I want
to put my hand on the white knight and my other finger on the square it will
move to, and then put my fingers (and to a very much lesser extent my
disfunctional eyeballs), on the surrounding squares and see if that move
will be a bad or good one.

This is why I've never got on with the various audio Chess games like
BGChess challenge, Kchess elite etc. Sinse while they have some good audio
overviews for the board, fundamentally you are still just getting the
information square by square, and I don't find myself able to old enough
spacial information about the board in mind for that sort of overview to
really help me or make it possible for me to play chess.

Of course this is me, and I will freely admit my spacial coordination is
pretty cruddy, (even in mobility I tend to substitute routes and land mark
memory instead of working out where I am spacially), you might be different
though I'm guessing by your comment you could be in a similar position,
hence my suggestion of a tactile chess set.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread Keith S
I've got the same problem with the spacial distortion in my head.Just 
wanted to know how to do it so I could solve the alteraeon quest in Gads.


Thanks

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: dark 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


  My personal advice would be to get a tactile chess set (sometimes called a 
  braille chess set, even though they don't have braille on them), and start 
  playing live against a human.

  To explain these are sets where there are holes in each square on the board 
  and the peaces are on pegs so you can put your mits on the board without 
  knocking them over, one side (usually the white, though not always), has 
  pins on the top to tell them apart. I'm not sure where you'd get one from in 
  your part of the world, they tend to be sold by the same places who sell 
  braille cards, dice etc.

  Personally, while I understand chess notation, I find it near impossible to 
  hold spacial information about the board in mind without the board. I want 
  to put my hand on the white knight and my other finger on the square it will 
  move to, and then put my fingers (and to a very much lesser extent my 
  disfunctional eyeballs), on the surrounding squares and see if that move 
  will be a bad or good one.

  This is why I've never got on with the various audio Chess games like 
  BGChess challenge, Kchess elite etc. Sinse while they have some good audio 
  overviews for the board, fundamentally you are still just getting the 
  information square by square, and I don't find myself able to old enough 
  spacial information about the board in mind for that sort of overview to 
  really help me or make it possible for me to play chess.

  Of course this is me, and I will freely admit my spacial coordination is 
  pretty cruddy, (even in mobility I tend to substitute routes and land mark 
  memory instead of working out where I am spacially), you might be different 
  though I'm guessing by your comment you could be in a similar position, 
  hence my suggestion of a tactile chess set.

  Beware the grue!

  Dark. 


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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread Charles Rivard
Why not use your own chess set to determine your moves?  That's what I do 
when playing against either a human or a program.  When the opponent tells 
you to move a knight to f6, make the move on your board.


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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


My personal advice would be to get a tactile chess set (sometimes called a 
braille chess set, even though they don't have braille on them), and start 
playing live against a human.


To explain these are sets where there are holes in each square on the 
board and the peaces are on pegs so you can put your mits on the board 
without knocking them over, one side (usually the white, though not 
always), has pins on the top to tell them apart. I'm not sure where you'd 
get one from in your part of the world, they tend to be sold by the same 
places who sell braille cards, dice etc.


Personally, while I understand chess notation, I find it near impossible 
to hold spacial information about the board in mind without the board. I 
want to put my hand on the white knight and my other finger on the square 
it will move to, and then put my fingers (and to a very much lesser extent 
my disfunctional eyeballs), on the surrounding squares and see if that 
move will be a bad or good one.


This is why I've never got on with the various audio Chess games like 
BGChess challenge, Kchess elite etc. Sinse while they have some good audio 
overviews for the board, fundamentally you are still just getting the 
information square by square, and I don't find myself able to old enough 
spacial information about the board in mind for that sort of overview to 
really help me or make it possible for me to play chess.


Of course this is me, and I will freely admit my spacial coordination is 
pretty cruddy, (even in mobility I tend to substitute routes and land mark 
memory instead of working out where I am spacially), you might be 
different though I'm guessing by your comment you could be in a similar 
position, hence my suggestion of a tactile chess set.


Beware the grue!

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread Bryan Peterson

I've never even attempted that one.



Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Keith S

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:58 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

I've got the same problem with the spacial distortion in my head.Just 
wanted to know how to do it so I could solve the alteraeon quest in Gads.



Thanks

Keith
 - Original Message - 
 From: dark

 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


 My personal advice would be to get a tactile chess set (sometimes called a
 braille chess set, even though they don't have braille on them), and start
 playing live against a human.

 To explain these are sets where there are holes in each square on the 
board

 and the peaces are on pegs so you can put your mits on the board without
 knocking them over, one side (usually the white, though not always), has
 pins on the top to tell them apart. I'm not sure where you'd get one from 
in

 your part of the world, they tend to be sold by the same places who sell
 braille cards, dice etc.

 Personally, while I understand chess notation, I find it near impossible 
to

 hold spacial information about the board in mind without the board. I want
 to put my hand on the white knight and my other finger on the square it 
will

 move to, and then put my fingers (and to a very much lesser extent my
 disfunctional eyeballs), on the surrounding squares and see if that move
 will be a bad or good one.

 This is why I've never got on with the various audio Chess games like
 BGChess challenge, Kchess elite etc. Sinse while they have some good audio
 overviews for the board, fundamentally you are still just getting the
 information square by square, and I don't find myself able to old enough
 spacial information about the board in mind for that sort of overview to
 really help me or make it possible for me to play chess.

 Of course this is me, and I will freely admit my spacial coordination is
 pretty cruddy, (even in mobility I tend to substitute routes and land mark
 memory instead of working out where I am spacially), you might be 
different

 though I'm guessing by your comment you could be in a similar position,
 hence my suggestion of a tactile chess set.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread Charles Rivard

And the instructor is very good, as well.  Patient and knowledgeable.

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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


Well the Hadley School for the Blind offers two free chess courses, Chess 
for Beginners and Chess: Principles and Strategies. You even get a free 
chess set with the first course which is yours to keep after you complete 
it. Each course has I believe six lessons, each with an accompanying 
assignment. The chess set is really nice as well. I still have mine from 
eight years ago, though I don't play so much these days.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: Keith S

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 6:45 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

can anyone suggest the best way for me to learn how to play chess as a 
blind person?  I played when I had sight, but the notation method is 
confusing the crap out of me.


Thanks

Keith
Blind but not Useless
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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread dark
that sounds like a really good chess set bryan. Sinse the old one I used to 
own pretty much died due to lack of use (several peaces depegged), I tried 
buying a new one from the Rnib however i was quite disappointed. The peaces 
are tiny, however instead of black and white it's more like dark brown and 
slightly lighter brown (the contrast is quite horrible), and the peaces are 
extremely small and lumpy.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


I agreeDark. Tat's wy I don't play onlie, even though you can get a free 
year of membership to an online Chess community for completing both of the 
two Ches courses offered by the Hadley School here in the US. Their chess 
set, which is included with their beginner's course, is really nice. It not 
only has the pegs and holes for easy piece placement and the pins denoting 
white and black pieces (in this case I believe it's the black ones), but 
the board is also brailled. The white side says wite and the other black, 
but the ranks and files are also denoted with letters and numbers.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: dark

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 7:11 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

My personal advice would be to get a tactile chess set (sometimes called a
braille chess set, even though they don't have braille on them), and start
playing live against a human.

To explain these are sets where there are holes in each square on the 
board

and the peaces are on pegs so you can put your mits on the board without
knocking them over, one side (usually the white, though not always), has
pins on the top to tell them apart. I'm not sure where you'd get one from 
in

your part of the world, they tend to be sold by the same places who sell
braille cards, dice etc.

Personally, while I understand chess notation, I find it near impossible 
to

hold spacial information about the board in mind without the board. I want
to put my hand on the white knight and my other finger on the square it 
will

move to, and then put my fingers (and to a very much lesser extent my
disfunctional eyeballs), on the surrounding squares and see if that move
will be a bad or good one.

This is why I've never got on with the various audio Chess games like
BGChess challenge, Kchess elite etc. Sinse while they have some good audio
overviews for the board, fundamentally you are still just getting the
information square by square, and I don't find myself able to old enough
spacial information about the board in mind for that sort of overview to
really help me or make it possible for me to play chess.

Of course this is me, and I will freely admit my spacial coordination is
pretty cruddy, (even in mobility I tend to substitute routes and land mark
memory instead of working out where I am spacially), you might be 
different

though I'm guessing by your comment you could be in a similar position,
hence my suggestion of a tactile chess set.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread Charles Rivard
There is nothing that prevents you from using your own board and men, as 
long as they are of the Staunton design, regardless of whether you are 
playing against a human or a chess engine.  Just make the moves as directed 
by the opponent.


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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


I agreeDark. Tat's wy I don't play onlie, even though you can get a free 
year of membership to an online Chess community for completing both of the 
two Ches courses offered by the Hadley School here in the US. Their chess 
set, which is included with their beginner's course, is really nice. It not 
only has the pegs and holes for easy piece placement and the pins denoting 
white and black pieces (in this case I believe it's the black ones), but 
the board is also brailled. The white side says wite and the other black, 
but the ranks and files are also denoted with letters and numbers.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: dark

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 7:11 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

My personal advice would be to get a tactile chess set (sometimes called a
braille chess set, even though they don't have braille on them), and start
playing live against a human.

To explain these are sets where there are holes in each square on the 
board

and the peaces are on pegs so you can put your mits on the board without
knocking them over, one side (usually the white, though not always), has
pins on the top to tell them apart. I'm not sure where you'd get one from 
in

your part of the world, they tend to be sold by the same places who sell
braille cards, dice etc.

Personally, while I understand chess notation, I find it near impossible 
to

hold spacial information about the board in mind without the board. I want
to put my hand on the white knight and my other finger on the square it 
will

move to, and then put my fingers (and to a very much lesser extent my
disfunctional eyeballs), on the surrounding squares and see if that move
will be a bad or good one.

This is why I've never got on with the various audio Chess games like
BGChess challenge, Kchess elite etc. Sinse while they have some good audio
overviews for the board, fundamentally you are still just getting the
information square by square, and I don't find myself able to old enough
spacial information about the board in mind for that sort of overview to
really help me or make it possible for me to play chess.

Of course this is me, and I will freely admit my spacial coordination is
pretty cruddy, (even in mobility I tend to substitute routes and land mark
memory instead of working out where I am spacially), you might be 
different

though I'm guessing by your comment you could be in a similar position,
hence my suggestion of a tactile chess set.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread dark
There was a step by step guide to the alter quest on the audiogames.net 
forum i remember, sinse that's the only way I managed it myself, 
particularly  sinse  while I'm used to speaking and talking about moves on 
the board, eg e2/e4, the notation code used for commands I found rather 
whacky.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: Keith S ks.steinbac...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


I've got the same problem with the spacial distortion in my head.Just 
wanted to know how to do it so I could solve the alteraeon quest in Gads.



Thanks

Keith
 - Original Message - 
 From: dark

 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


 My personal advice would be to get a tactile chess set (sometimes called 
a
 braille chess set, even though they don't have braille on them), and 
start

 playing live against a human.

 To explain these are sets where there are holes in each square on the 
board

 and the peaces are on pegs so you can put your mits on the board without
 knocking them over, one side (usually the white, though not always), has
 pins on the top to tell them apart. I'm not sure where you'd get one from 
in

 your part of the world, they tend to be sold by the same places who sell
 braille cards, dice etc.

 Personally, while I understand chess notation, I find it near impossible 
to
 hold spacial information about the board in mind without the board. I 
want
 to put my hand on the white knight and my other finger on the square it 
will

 move to, and then put my fingers (and to a very much lesser extent my
 disfunctional eyeballs), on the surrounding squares and see if that move
 will be a bad or good one.

 This is why I've never got on with the various audio Chess games like
 BGChess challenge, Kchess elite etc. Sinse while they have some good 
audio

 overviews for the board, fundamentally you are still just getting the
 information square by square, and I don't find myself able to old enough
 spacial information about the board in mind for that sort of overview to
 really help me or make it possible for me to play chess.

 Of course this is me, and I will freely admit my spacial coordination is
 pretty cruddy, (even in mobility I tend to substitute routes and land 
mark
 memory instead of working out where I am spacially), you might be 
different

 though I'm guessing by your comment you could be in a similar position,
 hence my suggestion of a tactile chess set.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread dark
I tried that charlse with K chess elite, however I think I must have 
misscounted moving one of my opponent's peaces sinse each game I tried I'd 
get a ways through and then the computer would tell me to move something I 
thought was an empty square or the like.


It's odd, on the few occasions I played in braille chess tournaments I 
didn't have that problem, then again there was always an invigilator 
watching to make sure those sorts of things didn't happen.


beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread Charles Rivard

Although it is pricy, you can get a very well made tactual chess set from

www.thechesshouse.com

The pieces are tournament sized.  I believe the set costs around $100.

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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


that sounds like a really good chess set bryan. Sinse the old one I used 
to own pretty much died due to lack of use (several peaces depegged), I 
tried buying a new one from the Rnib however i was quite disappointed. The 
peaces are tiny, however instead of black and white it's more like dark 
brown and slightly lighter brown (the contrast is quite horrible), and the 
peaces are extremely small and lumpy.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


I agreeDark. Tat's wy I don't play onlie, even though you can get a free 
year of membership to an online Chess community for completing both of the 
two Ches courses offered by the Hadley School here in the US. Their chess 
set, which is included with their beginner's course, is really nice. It 
not only has the pegs and holes for easy piece placement and the pins 
denoting white and black pieces (in this case I believe it's the black 
ones), but the board is also brailled. The white side says wite and the 
other black, but the ranks and files are also denoted with letters and 
numbers.




Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I 
don't!
-Original Message- 
From: dark

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 7:11 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

My personal advice would be to get a tactile chess set (sometimes called 
a
braille chess set, even though they don't have braille on them), and 
start

playing live against a human.

To explain these are sets where there are holes in each square on the 
board

and the peaces are on pegs so you can put your mits on the board without
knocking them over, one side (usually the white, though not always), has
pins on the top to tell them apart. I'm not sure where you'd get one from 
in

your part of the world, they tend to be sold by the same places who sell
braille cards, dice etc.

Personally, while I understand chess notation, I find it near impossible 
to
hold spacial information about the board in mind without the board. I 
want
to put my hand on the white knight and my other finger on the square it 
will

move to, and then put my fingers (and to a very much lesser extent my
disfunctional eyeballs), on the surrounding squares and see if that move
will be a bad or good one.

This is why I've never got on with the various audio Chess games like
BGChess challenge, Kchess elite etc. Sinse while they have some good 
audio

overviews for the board, fundamentally you are still just getting the
information square by square, and I don't find myself able to old enough
spacial information about the board in mind for that sort of overview to
really help me or make it possible for me to play chess.

Of course this is me, and I will freely admit my spacial coordination is
pretty cruddy, (even in mobility I tend to substitute routes and land 
mark
memory instead of working out where I am spacially), you might be 
different

though I'm guessing by your comment you could be in a similar position,
hence my suggestion of a tactile chess set.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread Charles Rivard
It's always a good idea to double check by using your arrow keys to review 
the board in cases like this.  You can sometimes hear b7 when it actually 
said d7 or e7.


Another very good chess program that is speech friendly is Shredder Chess. 
You can get it from


www.shredderchess.com

and you can also get it for an iDevice as well.  Do a search in the app 
store.  If you get it for an iDevice, you can get it for your PC for a 
discount price.  I haven't found out what the cost is, but will do so next 
month.


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you! really! are! finished!
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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


I tried that charlse with K chess elite, however I think I must have 
misscounted moving one of my opponent's peaces sinse each game I tried I'd 
get a ways through and then the computer would tell me to move something I 
thought was an empty square or the like.


It's odd, on the few occasions I played in braille chess tournaments I 
didn't have that problem, then again there was always an invigilator 
watching to make sure those sorts of things didn't happen.


beware the grue!

DArk.

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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread Jeremy Brown
Keith,

There's two forms of notation.  Algebraic notation is easier to
fathom.  In algebraic the files are lettered a through h from White's
queen's rook right to white's King's rook.  The ranks are then
numbered from 1 to 8 counting from white's first rank.  So a move of
pawn e2-e4 is king's pawn from 2 to 4.

As to playing, there are, or were several board game producers for the
blind producing peg style chessboards for the blind that used
alternating raised and depressed squares to represent the color, and
that had pins or bumps on the black pieces to distinguish them from
the white.  I have  such a board and it works well as you can look at
board position without messing up the pieces.

I hope this helps,

Jeremy

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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread hayden presley
Hi Charles,
I was happy to hear that the PC versoin of Shredder is speech-friendly. The
only issue is that I'm not sure what you meant byh that. I get no feedback
on moved pieces, and I see no way to look at the board. What needs to h
appen to make that work?

Best Regards,
Hayden

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles
Rivard
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:48 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

It's always a good idea to double check by using your arrow keys to review
the board in cases like this.  You can sometimes hear b7 when it actually
said d7 or e7.

Another very good chess program that is speech friendly is Shredder Chess. 
You can get it from

www.shredderchess.com

and you can also get it for an iDevice as well.  Do a search in the app
store.  If you get it for an iDevice, you can get it for your PC for a
discount price.  I haven't found out what the cost is, but will do so next
month.

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I tried that charlse with K chess elite, however I think I must have 
misscounted moving one of my opponent's peaces sinse each game I tried 
I'd get a ways through and then the computer would tell me to move 
something I thought was an empty square or the like.

 It's odd, on the few occasions I played in braille chess tournaments I 
 didn't have that problem, then again there was always an invigilator 
 watching to make sure those sorts of things didn't happen.

 beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

2014-06-27 Thread dark
If I actually played more chess I'd rather considder that, assuming that 
that particular company do orders outside the states. Though I don't tend to 
play that much chess now.


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Although it is pricy, you can get a very well made tactual chess set from

www.thechesshouse.com

The pieces are tournament sized.  I believe the set costs around $100.

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that sounds like a really good chess set bryan. Sinse the old one I used 
to own pretty much died due to lack of use (several peaces depegged), I 
tried buying a new one from the Rnib however i was quite disappointed. 
The peaces are tiny, however instead of black and white it's more like 
dark brown and slightly lighter brown (the contrast is quite horrible), 
and the peaces are extremely small and lumpy.


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I agreeDark. Tat's wy I don't play onlie, even though you can get a free 
year of membership to an online Chess community for completing both of 
the two Ches courses offered by the Hadley School here in the US. Their 
chess set, which is included with their beginner's course, is really 
nice. It not only has the pegs and holes for easy piece placement and the 
pins denoting white and black pieces (in this case I believe it's the 
black ones), but the board is also brailled. The white side says wite and 
the other black, but the ranks and files are also denoted with letters 
and numbers.




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thy micturations are to me
as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if 
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My personal advice would be to get a tactile chess set (sometimes called 
a
braille chess set, even though they don't have braille on them), and 
start

playing live against a human.

To explain these are sets where there are holes in each square on the 
board

and the peaces are on pegs so you can put your mits on the board without
knocking them over, one side (usually the white, though not always), has
pins on the top to tell them apart. I'm not sure where you'd get one 
from in

your part of the world, they tend to be sold by the same places who sell
braille cards, dice etc.

Personally, while I understand chess notation, I find it near impossible 
to
hold spacial information about the board in mind without the board. I 
want
to put my hand on the white knight and my other finger on the square it 
will

move to, and then put my fingers (and to a very much lesser extent my
disfunctional eyeballs), on the surrounding squares and see if that move
will be a bad or good one.

This is why I've never got on with the various audio Chess games like
BGChess challenge, Kchess elite etc. Sinse while they have some good 
audio

overviews for the board, fundamentally you are still just getting the
information square by square, and I don't find myself able to old enough
spacial information about the board in mind for that sort of overview to
really help me or make it possible for me to play chess.

Of course this is me, and I will freely admit my spacial coordination is
pretty cruddy, (even in mobility I tend to substitute routes and land 
mark
memory instead of working out where I am spacially), you might be 
different

though I'm guessing by your comment you could be in a similar position,
hence my suggestion of a tactile chess set.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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[Audyssey] chess chat

2013-02-06 Thread Charles Rivard
Chess is a game that has withstood the test of time.  Why?  Because it is one 
of the greatest strategy games of all time.  The playing field is level, 
whether you are fully sighted, totally blind, or whether you have other 
handicaps, or whether you have none.  You don't have to be in great physical 
shape, you can play the game just about anywhere at any time.  Want to know 
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 Come on in and join the fun!

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[Audyssey] chess chat correction

2013-02-06 Thread Charles Rivard
The correct URL is

www.Out-Of-Sight.net

not .com

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[Audyssey] chess and alter aeon

2012-12-01 Thread Keith
Hi, was wondering if anyone has played the chess game in gad's landing in 
alter aeon.  I know how to play chess, I used to play when I was sighted, 
but have not since  entering the dark.  I am sure it's just a matter of 
learning notation, but was wondering if anyone has played the alter aeon 
mini game if you will.


Keith 



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Re: [Audyssey] chess and alter aeon

2012-12-01 Thread Dennis Towne
Keith,

There's a lot of people who have gone through that area and been able
to do the chess quests, but quite frankly it's not simple.  It's
considered a 'very difficult' quest, and most of the people who have
done it sat down and figured out what the boards are supposed to look
like and played with the notation for a while to get it right.  Don't
expect to get it overnight, but if you're familiar with chess, you'll
probably be able to do it.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com


On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Keith ks.steinbac...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, was wondering if anyone has played the chess game in gad's landing in
 alter aeon.  I know how to play chess, I used to play when I was sighted,
 but have not since  entering the dark.  I am sure it's just a matter of
 learning notation, but was wondering if anyone has played the alter aeon
 mini game if you will.

 Keith

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Re: [Audyssey] chess and alter aeon

2012-12-01 Thread dark
what gave me the clue was being told that you need to type the word open 
before each move. So open e2 e4 or open kxp or whatever.
If you get really stuck jayde wrote a completely walkthrough of the quest on 
audiogames.net giving all the moves needed, though once I got how the 
notation worked I was able to go from there and figure the rest out, it was 
getting the game to accept the commands that seemed the problem for me.


Beware the grue!

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Keith,

There's a lot of people who have gone through that area and been able
to do the chess quests, but quite frankly it's not simple.  It's
considered a 'very difficult' quest, and most of the people who have
done it sat down and figured out what the boards are supposed to look
like and played with the notation for a while to get it right.  Don't
expect to get it overnight, but if you're familiar with chess, you'll
probably be able to do it.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com


On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Keith ks.steinbac...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, was wondering if anyone has played the chess game in gad's landing in
alter aeon.  I know how to play chess, I used to play when I was sighted,
but have not since  entering the dark.  I am sure it's just a matter of
learning notation, but was wondering if anyone has played the alter aeon
mini game if you will.

Keith

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[Audyssey] chess chat gets the OK!

2012-01-16 Thread Charles Rivard
We got the Go ahead, so here's the news:

Chess Chat
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Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!
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[Audyssey] chess

2012-01-04 Thread shaun everiss

Hi.
any battle chess for the blind?
I used to play battle chess on the amiga and there were sounds for 
things going on.
it was rather interactive and for its time sounded quite good if a 
little cheap.



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[Audyssey] chess-formula

2011-10-10 Thread venko ganev
Hello you! I registered in the freechess.org.
 I am interested in how to create a formula whereby using the command
seek not I invite users with a rating lower than 1600 as my score is
over 1600. I would be very grateful if I describe in detail the
creation of such a formula as leading to the auxiliary fail something
not working, perhaps I can not figure it out. Use winboard 4.5.2 jaws
if it matters. Thank you!

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Re: [Audyssey] chess quest in alterean

2011-09-05 Thread Valiant8086

Hi.
Michael had it right at least first, the command is open then the 
coordinates you want the piece to move to, at least to my recollection 
it is.


Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.13 portable.

On 9/4/2011 1:28 PM, dark wrote:

Hi.

Has anyone done the chess quest under gad's landing?

I've got to the giant board, but whenever I'm there I can't work out how to 
move my pieces.

I've tried move pawn, move queen etc, but that doesn't work. I've tried b2 b4, 
I've tried say move b2 b4, say move queen, and say b2 b 4 etc, but nothing 
works!

This is just the sort of thing I hate in if games, where it's clear what you 
have to do, but the stupid commands in the game won't let you do it, and I'm 
reasonably confident if I can actually just work out how to move the bloody 
pieces I can solve the chess puzzle.

so if anyone's done it, some advice would be appreciated.

Beware the grue!

DArk.
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[Audyssey] chess quest in alterean

2011-09-04 Thread dark
Hi. 

Has anyone done the chess quest under gad's landing? 

I've got to the giant board, but whenever I'm there I can't work out how to 
move my pieces. 

I've tried move pawn, move queen etc, but that doesn't work. I've tried b2 b4, 
I've tried say move b2 b4, say move queen, and say b2 b 4 etc, but nothing 
works! 

This is just the sort of thing I hate in if games, where it's clear what you 
have to do, but the stupid commands in the game won't let you do it, and I'm 
reasonably confident if I can actually just work out how to move the bloody 
pieces I can solve the chess puzzle. 

so if anyone's done it, some advice would be appreciated. 

Beware the grue! 

DArk.
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Re: [Audyssey] chess quest in alterean

2011-09-04 Thread john

I've scene the board, but never even been able to register.

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Re: [Audyssey] chess quest in alterean

2011-09-04 Thread dark
To register you just need to buy the registration tickit from the 
receptionist.


Apparently according to dentin it has to be in letter notation, so I'll try 
that next.


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I've scene the board, but never even been able to register.

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Re: [Audyssey] chess quest in alterean

2011-09-04 Thread Michael Taboada

Hi,
If you try something like open move where move is in letter notation, that 
might work, although since I've never done it myself I'm not sure, and then 
you might try order thing move too.

Hth,
-Michael.


-Original Message- 
From: dark

Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 12:28 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] chess quest in alterean

Hi.

Has anyone done the chess quest under gad's landing?

I've got to the giant board, but whenever I'm there I can't work out how to 
move my pieces.


I've tried move pawn, move queen etc, but that doesn't work. I've tried b2 
b4, I've tried say move b2 b4, say move queen, and say b2 b 4 etc, but 
nothing works!


This is just the sort of thing I hate in if games, where it's clear what you 
have to do, but the stupid commands in the game won't let you do it, and I'm 
reasonably confident if I can actually just work out how to move the bloody 
pieces I can solve the chess puzzle.


so if anyone's done it, some advice would be appreciated.

Beware the grue!

DArk.
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Re: [Audyssey] Chess stratigies

2010-12-11 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Thanks allot Sir.


 
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If you use Kchess I'd suggest reading the tips there, it offers a game 
commentary which can be quite handy.

I do remember a book called chess for tigers, which was both helpful, and 
rather fun (sinse it was written using jungle animals as examples). the 
author was a grand master, but I can't recall which unfortunately,   
wikipedia will have an artical though.

Unfortunately though, generally the only way to get better at chess is to 
lose a lot, then try to think why you lost.

I'm afraid that's all I can suggest for the time being, but iadmit I haven't

played serious chess for quite a long time now.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Subject: [Audyssey] Chess stratigies






Hi all:



 If yyou please, I need some books, or things, to know chess stratigies, I
 know how to play chess, but I need to win :D



 Any ideas will be highly abbreciated.



 Cheers:

 Ramy Moustafa

 If music be the food of love, play on...



 email and msn:

 flutelo...@link.net

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Re: [Audyssey] Chess stratigies

2010-12-11 Thread Charles Rivard

Have you checked into the correspondence courses on how to play chess at

www.hadley.edu

yet?  Although you said that you do know the game, here's why I suggest this 
option.  I knew the game, but learned from a terrible player.  I was tired 
of always losing to people.  I heard about the two chess courses offered by 
Hadley, so took the first one just for kicks, thinking that what I needed 
was a new beginning or a different way to think about the game.  The first 
chess course, for beginners, gave me a different outlook on the game, plus, 
a very nice chess set was included as part of the course material.  Once you 
complete the course, you can keep the course material and the chess set, 
which is a very nice one.  Then, I enrolled in the course of advanced 
tactics and strategies, which was a big, big help in improving my game.  The 
cost cannot be beat, as there is no charge for either course.  The material 
from both courses was adapted from a book written by a Grand Master of the 
game.  They are a great reference source for the future, too, and you keep 
them after completion of the courses.  You also, upon completion of the 
advanced course, receive a two year membership to the United States Braille 
Chess Association, which has a small library of chess books you can borrow, 
as well as an Email list through which you can challenge others in games for 
fun or in tournaments, as well as online in voice chat sessions.


Based on my own experiences, I think that this is a very good way for anyone 
interested in chess to either get started or to improve.


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Thanks allot Sir.



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If you use Kchess I'd suggest reading the tips there, it offers a game
commentary which can be quite handy.

I do remember a book called chess for tigers, which was both helpful, and
rather fun (sinse it was written using jungle animals as examples). the
author was a grand master, but I can't recall which unfortunately, 
wikipedia will have an artical though.

Unfortunately though, generally the only way to get better at chess is to
lose a lot, then try to think why you lost.

I'm afraid that's all I can suggest for the time being, but iadmit I 
haven't


played serious chess for quite a long time now.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Subject: [Audyssey] Chess stratigies







   Hi all:



If yyou please, I need some books, or things, to know chess stratigies, I
know how to play chess, but I need to win :D



Any ideas will be highly abbreciated.



Cheers:

Ramy Moustafa

If music be the food of love, play on...



email and msn:

flutelo...@link.net

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[Audyssey] Chess stratigies

2010-12-10 Thread Ramy Moustafa
 

 

Hi all:

 

If yyou please, I need some books, or things, to know chess stratigies, I
know how to play chess, but I need to win :D

 

Any ideas will be highly abbreciated.

 

Cheers:

Ramy Moustafa

If music be the food of love, play on...

 

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Re: [Audyssey] Chess stratigies

2010-12-10 Thread dark
If you use Kchess I'd suggest reading the tips there, it offers a game 
commentary which can be quite handy.


I do remember a book called chess for tigers, which was both helpful, and 
rather fun (sinse it was written using jungle animals as examples). the 
author was a grand master, but I can't recall which unfortunately,   
wikipedia will have an artical though.


Unfortunately though, generally the only way to get better at chess is to 
lose a lot, then try to think why you lost.


I'm afraid that's all I can suggest for the time being, but iadmit I haven't 
played serious chess for quite a long time now.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:00 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Chess stratigies







   Hi all:



If yyou please, I need some books, or things, to know chess stratigies, I
know how to play chess, but I need to win :D



Any ideas will be highly abbreciated.



Cheers:

Ramy Moustafa

If music be the food of love, play on...



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[Audyssey] Chess Clock Programs

2010-08-12 Thread Eleanor
Kelly - I don't know if this will work for you but check out the FREE 
Dark timer at 7-128 Software.  Select the Resources button on the home 
page and tab to tools.  It unfortunately still has the Kevin voice.


Eleanor Robinson
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Re: [Audyssey] Chess Clock Programs

2010-08-12 Thread Charles Rivard
Yes.  If I still have it, I can send you one, attached to an Email, when I 
get home, if that's OK with you.  It's a good one, but I don't remember 
offhand where I got it from, as it was quite some time ago.  It is a free 
program, created by someone in, I believe, South Africa.  Many people use 
it.


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Subject: [Audyssey] Chess Clock Programs



Hi,
  I just signed up for Hadley's Chess for Beginners course today. One of 
the things I read in the course synopsis is that there's a section on 
chess timers, and that reminded me of Jim Kitchen's Chess Clock program 
for DOS. Does anyone know of any good timers like this for Windows?

  Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
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[Audyssey] Chess Clock Programs

2010-08-11 Thread Kelly Sapergia

Hi,
  I just signed up for Hadley's Chess for Beginners course today. One of 
the things I read in the course synopsis is that there's a section on chess 
timers, and that reminded me of Jim Kitchen's Chess Clock program for DOS. 
Does anyone know of any good timers like this for Windows?

  Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
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[Audyssey] chess question

2010-03-12 Thread Shirley Starblanket
Hey gamers. Does anyone know of where I can play chess on-line? Thanks for the 
help.
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Re: [Audyssey] chess help

2010-02-13 Thread Keao Wright

awesome!
The site is www.hadley.edu
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I think your best bet would be to try the course from the Hadley school for
the blind, Chess For Beginners.  It is only a 6 lesson correspondence
course, and you can get the material in either braille or on audio
cassettes, along with a brailled book of diagrams to use during the 
lessons.

Plus, you receive a very good chess set adapted for blind players that you
can keep, along with the course materials for future reference if you 
finish
the course.  I don't know their URL offhand, but you should be able to 
find

it using a search engine such as

www.google.com

if nobody else can give it to you on this list.

Anyway, briefly, bishops, rooks, (also known as castles), and Knights, the
King, the Queen and pawns capture pieces by moving to the squares on which
the enemy piece rests.  Pieces that are jumped by a Knight remain on the
board.  Check is when your king will be captured on your opponent's next
move unless you prevent it by blocking the path or moving the King out of
harm's way, or by capturing the attacking piece.  If you can do none of
these things and cannot prevent your King from being taken, it is 
checkmate

and the game is over.  HTH.
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Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:28 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] chess help


Well, Charles. Can a castle take out pieces and if so how? Can the bishop
and all the others take out pieces? If so, how? When a knight jumps a 
piece,

does it take out the piece it jumps? What's check or checkmate? I need to
know everything about chess. If anybody knows about a review on chess let 
me

know. Thanks.
HAVE FUN!


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Re: [Audyssey] chess help

2010-02-13 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Charles,
You and I? Would sound good.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sounds like you and I aughta play a game or two one of these days?
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To answer your question, a rook, knight, bishop etc simply takes out the
piece it lands on. As for a knight, no it does not take out the piece it
jumps; this is not checkers Grin. About check and checkmate: when your
king is in check, it can be captured. This means that you must immediately
either move the king out of check or some how move a piece in the way, as
your king *cannot* be captured. If, however, you cannot get out of check,
this is considered checkmate and grants your opponent victory.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Subject: [Audyssey] chess help

Well, Charles. Can a castle take out pieces and if so how? Can the bishop
and all the others take out pieces? If so, how? When a knight jumps a piece,
does it take out the piece it jumps? What's check or checkmate? I need to
know everything about chess. If anybody knows about a review on chess let me
know. Thanks.
HAVE FUN!


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[Audyssey] chess help

2010-02-12 Thread Shirley Starblanket
Well, Charles. Can a castle take out pieces and if so how? Can the bishop and 
all the others take out pieces? If so, how? When a knight jumps a piece, does 
it take out the piece it jumps? What's check or checkmate? I need to know 
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Thanks.
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Re: [Audyssey] chess help

2010-02-12 Thread dark

Hi Shirley.
have you got the Bg chess challenge game from spoonbill software? not only 
does it play chess, but it comes with a document entitled how to play chess 
which explains all the rules and maneuvers, pluss I believe the game has 
some degree of in game help if i remember rightly.


You can either download it from Tom's site on 
http://www.usagamesinteractive.com/downloads/spoonbill-games/ or
alternatelyou can send an E-mail requesting the game to Ian humphries who 
produces it (all his games are free and use ms sapi to be self-voicing).


You can find out all about his games, and his E-mail address on 
http://www.omninet.net.au/~irhumph/blindgamers.htm to be honest, even if you 
just download bg chess from Tom's hosting site, --- Ian humphries does 
rather like E-mails from people sinse he likes to personally know who plays 
his games,  pluss then he can put you on the mailing list to know about 
new releases if you wish.


Hth.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Subject: [Audyssey] chess help


Well, Charles. Can a castle take out pieces and if so how? Can the bishop 
and all the others take out pieces? If so, how? When a knight jumps a 
piece, does it take out the piece it jumps? What's check or checkmate? I 
need to know everything about chess. If anybody knows about a review on 
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Re: [Audyssey] chess help

2010-02-12 Thread Hayden Presley
To answer your question, a rook, knight, bishop etc simply takes out the
piece it lands on. As for a knight, no it does not take out the piece it
jumps; this is not checkers Grin. About check and checkmate: when your
king is in check, it can be captured. This means that you must immediately
either move the king out of check or some how move a piece in the way, as
your king *cannot* be captured. If, however, you cannot get out of check,
this is considered checkmate and grants your opponent victory.
Best Regards,
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Well, Charles. Can a castle take out pieces and if so how? Can the bishop
and all the others take out pieces? If so, how? When a knight jumps a piece,
does it take out the piece it jumps? What's check or checkmate? I need to
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Re: [Audyssey] chess help

2010-02-12 Thread Charles Rivard
I think your best bet would be to try the course from the Hadley school for 
the blind, Chess For Beginners.  It is only a 6 lesson correspondence 
course, and you can get the material in either braille or on audio 
cassettes, along with a brailled book of diagrams to use during the lessons. 
Plus, you receive a very good chess set adapted for blind players that you 
can keep, along with the course materials for future reference if you finish 
the course.  I don't know their URL offhand, but you should be able to find 
it using a search engine such as

www.google.com

if nobody else can give it to you on this list.

Anyway, briefly, bishops, rooks, (also known as castles), and Knights, the 
King, the Queen and pawns capture pieces by moving to the squares on which 
the enemy piece rests.  Pieces that are jumped by a Knight remain on the 
board.  Check is when your king will be captured on your opponent's next 
move unless you prevent it by blocking the path or moving the King out of 
harm's way, or by capturing the attacking piece.  If you can do none of 
these things and cannot prevent your King from being taken, it is checkmate 
and the game is over.  HTH.
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Well, Charles. Can a castle take out pieces and if so how? Can the bishop 
and all the others take out pieces? If so, how? When a knight jumps a piece, 
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Re: [Audyssey] chess help

2010-02-12 Thread Charles Rivard
Sounds like you and I aughta play a game or two one of these days?
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To answer your question, a rook, knight, bishop etc simply takes out the
piece it lands on. As for a knight, no it does not take out the piece it
jumps; this is not checkers Grin. About check and checkmate: when your
king is in check, it can be captured. This means that you must immediately
either move the king out of check or some how move a piece in the way, as
your king *cannot* be captured. If, however, you cannot get out of check,
this is considered checkmate and grants your opponent victory.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Subject: [Audyssey] chess help

Well, Charles. Can a castle take out pieces and if so how? Can the bishop
and all the others take out pieces? If so, how? When a knight jumps a piece,
does it take out the piece it jumps? What's check or checkmate? I need to
know everything about chess. If anybody knows about a review on chess let me
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HAVE FUN!


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[Audyssey] chess help

2010-02-11 Thread Shirley Starblanket
Hey gamers. Can somebody help to understand chess? Thanks.
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Re: [Audyssey] chess help

2010-02-11 Thread Charles Rivard
That's a hugely wide open question.  What are you not understand in 
particular?
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Hey gamers. Can somebody help to understand chess? Thanks.
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Re: [Audyssey] chess help

2010-02-11 Thread mike maslo
This email would not be or could it do justice. I love chess but it is a
long drawn out game. Also I did find out that Chess Titan I think it is
called on windows 7 is fully accessible.

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Hey gamers. Can somebody help to understand chess? Thanks.
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Re: [Audyssey] chess game question

2010-02-01 Thread Harmony Neil
Hellow,
Windows has one built in, which is accessible if you are using windows 7.
Otherwise you can get one from the internet, but it's annoying because it
won't let you make moves that are perfectly legal.  
Hope this helps,
Harmony.  

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Hey gamers. Does anyone know where I can board game like, chess or checkers?
I'm craving those games. Thanks for help.
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[Audyssey] chess game question

2010-02-01 Thread Shirley Starblanket
Hey gamers. Does anyone know where I can find some boards games like, Chess or 
checkers for for XP and has no installation? Thanks.
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Re: [Audyssey] chess game question

2010-02-01 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
As for getting games, there's no such things as not having to install them. 
Spoonbill Software does have a pretty good chess game.  I wish I knew more 
folks that would play.

Ron

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Re: [Audyssey] chess game question

2010-02-01 Thread Charles Rivard
There is also KChess Elite, from

www.arkangles.com

I hope I spelled that correctly.  If not, it is

www.arcangles.com

It is a very good program and works well with JAWS.  I don't know how well 
it works with other screen readers.  When installing, be sure to check the 
checkbox for using the program with a screen reader.

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The 2 chess games I know of off hand are winbord for only using with jaws,
and BGChess challenge, which you can get/request via the listing on
audiogames.net.

Stay well

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Re: [Audyssey] chess game question

2010-02-01 Thread shaun everiss
hmm the only one I can think of is winboard for jaws.
on that note jim kitchen may be able to help.
that is he hasn't got any may be an idea to write said things if he cares to I 
guess.
he has monopoly and a few other things.
If you can get chessmaster 6000 or chess master  whatever version I know it is 
accessible at least some say it is I have never bothered with this.
not sure about checkers.
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[Audyssey] chess game question

2010-01-31 Thread Shirley Starblanket
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Re: [Audyssey] chess game question

2010-01-31 Thread Charles Rivard
Are you meaning a game that uses a physical board?, or a computerized 
representation.  Thanks.
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Re: [Audyssey] chess game question

2010-01-31 Thread Jacob Kruger
The 2 chess games I know of off hand are winbord for only using with jaws, 
and BGChess challenge, which you can get/request via the listing on 
audiogames.net.


Stay well

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Re: [Audyssey] chess, anyone?

2009-08-04 Thread Pranav Lal
I will do my best to attend. This sounds really interesting. Chess is
something I've been wanting to play for a very long time.

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You are invited to attend our weekly International Chess Club Meeting on
Saturday in the Chess Parlor at for-the-people.com at 11:30 A.M. Eastern
Time, 15:30 GMT or UTC. 
Everything is free! 
We can tell you how you can get free chess lessons, even if
you have never played this great game. 
If you have any chess questions or would like to arrange a
game, please attend the meeting. 
Our voice chat room over-the-board Chess Parlor
Tournament and Ladder Tournament and other things will be discussed. 
Our tournaments are free and open to all, including beginners. 
You are welcome to observe any of our games in the Chess Parlor. 
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Re: [Audyssey] chess, anyone?

2009-08-04 Thread ian mcnamara

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This sounds great. Could you recommend any accessible chess clients?
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[Audyssey] chess, anyone?

2009-08-03 Thread Charles Rivard
 
You are invited to attend our weekly International Chess Club Meeting on 
Saturday in the Chess Parlor at for-the-people.com at 11:30 A.M. Eastern Time, 
15:30 GMT or UTC. 
Everything is free! 
We can tell you how you can get free chess lessons, even if
you have never played this great game. 
If you have any chess questions or would like to arrange a
game, please attend the meeting. 
Our voice chat room over-the-board Chess Parlor
Tournament and Ladder Tournament and other things will be discussed. 
Our tournaments are free and open to all, including beginners. 
You are welcome to observe any of our games in the Chess Parlor. 
A game is played in a couple of hours. 
It is voice-chat over-the-board chess. 
It is not correspondence chess or email chess. 

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[Audyssey] chess game for the Pac Mate

2009-07-26 Thread Charles Rivard
Has anyone gotten the chess program to work on a Pac Mate with firmware 4.61?  
I cannot get the game to speak moves, nor can I successfully convey my move to 
the program.  I've tried entering e4 as well as e2e4 with no success.  Also, 
what is the cost of the game?  The demo only allows 5 games to be played.  Any 
assistance with this game will be appreciated.  Also, what is a question mark 
on a BX unit?
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Re: [Audyssey] chess game for the Pac Mate

2009-07-26 Thread Constantine

I believe a question mark is dots 1 4 5 6, as your using computer braille.



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Has anyone gotten the chess program to work on a Pac Mate with firmware 
4.61?  I cannot get the game to speak moves, nor can I successfully convey 
my move to the program.  I've tried entering e4 as well as e2e4 with no 
success.  Also, what is the cost of the game?  The demo only allows 5 
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Re: [Audyssey] Chess Games

2009-03-03 Thread Robert Montowski

Hello there,
Have you played KChess v4 Elite?
I downloaded the demo and am having major problems trying to figure out how 
to use it.
Am I supposed to use the Jaws cursor mode to get to stuff or stay in the PC 
Cursor mode to get to info?
Is there enough help for a blind user in the help menu to figure out how to 
use this game or do I need to go to the web site and find a tutorial there?

thanks for any help u can offer.
Robert


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Re: [Audyssey] Chess Games

2009-02-27 Thread william lomas
I am currently learning the game of chess, it sounds a fascinating  
game to get in to.


On 27 Feb 2009, at 02:55, dark wrote:


Hi Robert.

The two Kchess games, ilete and advanced are I think what you want.

both have board printing options, and indeed a graphical board, but  
are highly screen reader friendly, with all the standard windows  
commands in menues for example and various ways of reviewing the  
board.


They also save games in multiple file formats which should help in  
your postal games I think.


The only bad news is they're not free, but both have a 30 day  
evaluation period.


For more info go to: http://www.arkangles.com/

Hth.

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Subject: [Audyssey] Chess Games


Does anyone know how many blind accessible chess games there are  
out there for computers?
I would like to play long distance snail mail chess games with a  
buddy of mine.
Do any of these games let a blind person play chess and will also  
show the chess board or offer the option of printing the chess  
board to mail toa sighted person to look at?

thanks for any help you folks can offer.
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Re: [Audyssey] Chess Games

2009-02-27 Thread Charles Rivard
One of the best tools for the blind to learn chess that I have come across 
is the Hadley School.  They offer a correspondence course in either braille 
or on audio cassettes for beginners.  After you complete this course, if 
interested, they offer a more advanced course in the same formats.  Each 
comes with a set of braille diagrams as part of the study material.  You 
learn at your own pace, and the instructor is patient and friendly.  The 
courses come with everything you need, even a chess set adapted for blind 
players that is very nice with the course for beginners.  After completing 
these courses, you can keep the study materials for future reference. 
Offhand, I don't recall the web address, although I'm certain that you can 
find it using your favorite search engine.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Chess Games


I am currently learning the game of chess, it sounds a fascinating  game to 
get in to.


On 27 Feb 2009, at 02:55, dark wrote:


Hi Robert.

The two Kchess games, ilete and advanced are I think what you want.

both have board printing options, and indeed a graphical board, but  are 
highly screen reader friendly, with all the standard windows  commands in 
menues for example and various ways of reviewing the  board.


They also save games in multiple file formats which should help in  your 
postal games I think.


The only bad news is they're not free, but both have a 30 day  evaluation 
period.


For more info go to: http://www.arkangles.com/

Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Subject: [Audyssey] Chess Games


Does anyone know how many blind accessible chess games there are  out 
there for computers?
I would like to play long distance snail mail chess games with a  buddy 
of mine.
Do any of these games let a blind person play chess and will also  show 
the chess board or offer the option of printing the chess  board to mail 
toa sighted person to look at?

thanks for any help you folks can offer.
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[Audyssey] Chess Games

2009-02-26 Thread Robert Montowski
Does anyone know how many blind accessible chess games there are out there for 
computers?
I would like to play long distance snail mail chess games with a buddy of mine.
Do any of these games let a blind person play chess and will also show the 
chess board or offer the option of printing the chess board to mail toa  
sighted person to look at?
thanks for any help you folks can offer.
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Re: [Audyssey] Chess Games

2009-02-26 Thread dark

Hi Robert.

The two Kchess games, ilete and advanced are I think what you want.

both have board printing options, and indeed a graphical board, but are 
highly screen reader friendly, with all the standard windows commands in 
menues for example and various ways of reviewing the board.


They also save games in multiple file formats which should help in your 
postal games I think.


The only bad news is they're not free, but both have a 30 day evaluation 
period.


For more info go to: http://www.arkangles.com/

Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Subject: [Audyssey] Chess Games


Does anyone know how many blind accessible chess games there are out there 
for computers?
I would like to play long distance snail mail chess games with a buddy of 
mine.
Do any of these games let a blind person play chess and will also show the 
chess board or offer the option of printing the chess board to mail toa 
sighted person to look at?

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Re: [Audyssey] Chess Games

2009-02-26 Thread Charles Rivard
KChess Elite is the best.  As for how many chess programs are out there, I 
have no idea.


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Hi Robert.

The two Kchess games, ilete and advanced are I think what you want.

both have board printing options, and indeed a graphical board, but are 
highly screen reader friendly, with all the standard windows commands in 
menues for example and various ways of reviewing the board.


They also save games in multiple file formats which should help in your 
postal games I think.


The only bad news is they're not free, but both have a 30 day evaluation 
period.


For more info go to: http://www.arkangles.com/

Hth.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Subject: [Audyssey] Chess Games


Does anyone know how many blind accessible chess games there are out 
there for computers?
I would like to play long distance snail mail chess games with a buddy of 
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Do any of these games let a blind person play chess and will also show 
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Re: [Audyssey] Chess Games

2009-02-26 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm.
not many there is winboard, and gnuchess.
and then cchess alleate or something from arcangles but again no addresses for 
those.
don't know if they exist or whatever.
I do know some of them are quite out dated at least winboard is.
you aparently can use cmchess 6000 reasonably well but don't quote me on that.
there is a dos chess floating round but don't know where that is.
At 03:42 p.m. 27/02/2009, you wrote:
Does anyone know how many blind accessible chess games there are out there for 
computers?
I would like to play long distance snail mail chess games with a buddy of mine.
Do any of these games let a blind person play chess and will also show the 
chess board or offer the option of printing the chess board to mail toa  
sighted person to look at?
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[Audyssey] chess

2008-10-17 Thread Charles Rivard
Hi Chess Players, as well as want to be chess players:

The American Printing House for the Blind's Fred's Head Companion blog
has an entry about playing chess. It includes descriptions of the game,
mentions adapted chess sets, and has links to the USBCA web site. The
blog is at http://www.fredshead.info/.

The Printing House is the place to go for accessible educational
materials. I hope some students learn about chess and the USBCA through
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Re: [Audyssey] chess

2008-10-17 Thread Willem

Thanks for this.
I haven't played chess for a while, but I want to get back into it.
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Hi Chess Players, as well as want to be chess players:

The American Printing House for the Blind's Fred's Head Companion blog
has an entry about playing chess. It includes descriptions of the game,
mentions adapted chess sets, and has links to the USBCA web site. The
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[Audyssey] chess for the blind

2008-04-22 Thread Charles Rivard
To hear an informative audio program on what is needed for blind people to play 
chess, and how it is done, the link is

http://accessibleworld.org/audio/download/146/04-21-08.mp3



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Re: [Audyssey] chess challenge - Re: logic and spatialawarenessgames

2008-02-12 Thread Dark
I'm not sure what you mean by chess braille,  I once read a chess 
stratogy book on tape, and used to note my moves down on tape as I 
mentioned, - Eg, queen takes rook on felix 7, there probably is a 
standardized way of writing it, but I'm not sure what it would be.

generally speaking, while I like reading braille lables on things etc, i do 
much more stuff on tape or through synths because it's quicker,  and 
usually reserve braille books for the train anyway.

beware the Grue!

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 Hi Dark and Charles,
 I don't know chess braille at all, but is it true what I've heard that
 American chess braille is different to British chess one?
 Ari


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