Re: [Audyssey] Dos games in windows seven.
yes you sure can! get talking dosbox from: http://batsupport.com/unsupported/dosbox/ follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 5/30/2015 4:41 AM, Lisa Hayes wrote: Hi folks can i access a dos gox in win seven and play my now old dosgames thanks. And any updates Jim to your games? Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
True, but there is one major difference and I don't mean storyline, weapons or gameplay. I know of the original Doom, allthough I haven't played it. But I know that Doom 1 and Quake 1 shared one thing which Shades of Doom up to now has never brought. And this is the ability to design your own level files and to distribute them. Shades of Doom to my knowledge doesn't alow the creation of user content outside of the main levels. I know of two Shades of Doom 1.x mods from the user with the name locutus. But he probably needed lots of free time to figure out how the .gsf files were set up to make his own altered files. Something which I think is not compatible or possible for Shades of Doom v2.x. And of course Locutus could never make his own level files. That was I hoped we could gain when the Alchemy Montezuma's Refenge was originally announced, because the old developer stated that the level editor would be part of a full registered version. Obviously it never got to that point, but that was what I hoped back then. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
Hi Scot, In a sense that has already been done. That was the entire point of GMA's Shades of Doom. To create an accessible Doom clone. While not exact its as legally close as anyone can get. Cheers! On 1/9/15, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, someone should rewrite doom. Maybe add a few accessibility features specific to us. That'd be neat :P --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
Tom, I loved Elite itself a long time back - was one of those games that I got stuck playing for hours on my old XT back then...smile Just not sure how you'd really convert/transform the 3D flying interface etc. I sort of remember from it into a text control based interface? Unless am thinking of the wrong game, or part of the interface, or else, suppose the sort of underlying strategy part of the game related to sort of strategy relating to performing actions/activities..? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project Hi John, Unfortunately, the games we are talking about have no source code, or at least none that is freely available. The games I had in mind were old Dos games like Elite that was really big back in the80's and early90's, but no longer are compatible with newer computers. I was rather hoping of writing them as text based console games along the lines of the original so that they would be accurate clones of the original. That's mainly for nostalgia's sake so wasn't thinking of using something like BGT for development. Plus the reason I had suggested Python is I am really interested in cross-platform games. As many here know I primarily use Linux, not Windows, so frown whenever anyone develops something exclusively for Windows and can't easily port it to Linux. I imagine Mac users feel much the same way. Therefore rewriting the games in C++ or Python is more ideal than BGT which is as yet a Windows only technology. Cheers! On 1/9/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: I have no experience with actually playing these games, but would be willing to give porting them a try if there's sourcecode and/or a detailed enough explanation available. I know very little python, but would be surprised if I couldn't get some kind of a solution together using bgt. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
Hey Scott, :) Your point is not lost on me. ;) However, I will mention Audio Quake yet again! lol! Ya know, I should get paid for every time I've mentioned Audio Quake on this list! lol! Smiles, Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, someone should rewrite doom. Maybe add a few accessibility features specific to us. That'd be neat :P On 1/9/15, Danielle Antoine singingmywa...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I would like Golf and Leisure Suit Larry and how about Panzers too. On 1/9/15, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: I would buy it for windows and android. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/9/2015 2:33 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Oh yeah, I used to play PCS Shoot all the time. Nothing so satisfying as the sound of a propane tank exploding when it's hit in the right place. I'd snap it up on iOS. Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Jan 9, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: PCS titles going to Mac / iOS would rock even more! ;) Cheers, Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:47 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: the pcs titles going to windows will rock but phill is probably going to port those eventually I hope. At 12:09 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
yes I have heard about that, and aparently you can compile all those games in that format to. At 03:35 a.m. 10/01/2015, you wrote: Hi Shaun, I'm not familiar with those games specifically but as for AGT based games there is a Windows interpreter called Agility or something like that which is quite accessible. So I'm doubtful that any of those games would need to be converted into an actual Windows executable since there isn't any pressing need to do so. As to copyrights each game I'd consider would have to be evaluated for copyright status individually of course. In some cases the author has abandoned the games and therefore if they are released as abandonware the copyright issue isn't a problem. If the game isn't released as abandonware, still is under copyright, then an attempt to contact the author or publisher would be in order to request copyright status. However, in a lot of cases it wouldn't come to that. For example, Josh suggested rewriting Pinochle. Well, that is a standard card game with no implicit copyrights attached. I could write my own Pinochle game without stepping on anyone's toes just because its a common card game and I probably wouldn't be copying the Dos game exactly. I'd be making it in my own way and with variations that would make it uniquely different from the original. Thus copyright wouldn't be a major concern. As for Dosbox accessibility I think you greatly underestimate what it would take to make it accessible. In short, to make Dosbox accessible I'd throw away the original emulator and rewrite it from scratch with accessibility in mind. I'm not willing to do that and think it would be further ahead to simply rewrite a few games and applications that a person likes, make them run on modern platforms, without emulation thus resolving the problem once and for all. All this hanky panky with Dosbox is an unnecessary dependency that can and should be thrown away. Cheers! On 1/8/15, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: for me drone and braminar are games I play on a regular basus and wasteland rebbels. but what are the licences of half this stuff more over even if you have to buy them do the authors and ways to get them exist. I know agt has some sort of game runner though I'd like a way to run agt games in a windows something text is good but audio maybe for some of the dos games who knows. And there is the licence for said thing. richard disteno has done all his games for dos into windows ones mostly text console apps with sound where needed. So yes it can be done. However tom I think dosbox should be made accessable somehow, as a lot of dos games now are using that system and I see no reason why we can't do the same thing if we so need to. the issue is that dos screenreader and external synths are hard to come buy, well external synths actually. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
I would also buy this for windows. At 08:57 a.m. 10/01/2015, you wrote: I would buy it for windows and android. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/9/2015 2:33 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Oh yeah, I used to play PCS Shoot all the time. Nothing so satisfying as the sound of a propane tank exploding when it's hit in the right place. I'd snap it up on iOS. Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Jan 9, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: PCS titles going to Mac / iOS would rock even more! ;) Cheers, Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:47 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: the pcs titles going to windows will rock but phill is probably going to port those eventually I hope. At 12:09 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
Hey, someone should rewrite doom. Maybe add a few accessibility features specific to us. That'd be neat :P On 1/9/15, Danielle Antoine singingmywa...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I would like Golf and Leisure Suit Larry and how about Panzers too. On 1/9/15, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: I would buy it for windows and android. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/9/2015 2:33 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Oh yeah, I used to play PCS Shoot all the time. Nothing so satisfying as the sound of a propane tank exploding when it's hit in the right place. I'd snap it up on iOS. Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Jan 9, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: PCS titles going to Mac / iOS would rock even more! ;) Cheers, Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:47 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: the pcs titles going to windows will rock but phill is probably going to port those eventually I hope. At 12:09 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
Hi John, Unfortunately, the games we are talking about have no source code, or at least none that is freely available. The games I had in mind were old Dos games like Elite that was really big back in the80's and early90's, but no longer are compatible with newer computers. I was rather hoping of writing them as text based console games along the lines of the original so that they would be accurate clones of the original. That's mainly for nostalgia's sake so wasn't thinking of using something like BGT for development. Plus the reason I had suggested Python is I am really interested in cross-platform games. As many here know I primarily use Linux, not Windows, so frown whenever anyone develops something exclusively for Windows and can't easily port it to Linux. I imagine Mac users feel much the same way. Therefore rewriting the games in C++ or Python is more ideal than BGT which is as yet a Windows only technology. Cheers! On 1/9/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: I have no experience with actually playing these games, but would be willing to give porting them a try if there's sourcecode and/or a detailed enough explanation available. I know very little python, but would be surprised if I couldn't get some kind of a solution together using bgt. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Thomas et al, Since you mention Elite, I feel this link might be useful to you or anybody interested in doing something similar. It’s a text-based reimplementation of the “classic,” trading system, which was basically the heart of the original game. There is no space combat or the like in here, but it’s probably something which could be added easily enough. Since this is standard C, it should be relatively portable, I’ve often thought of seeing if I could get it working on Mac as a trivial programming exercise. http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/text/ http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/text/ Enjoy, Zack. On Jan 9, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Unfortunately, the games we are talking about have no source code, or at least none that is freely available. The games I had in mind were old Dos games like Elite that was really big back in the80's and early90's, but no longer are compatible with newer computers. I was rather hoping of writing them as text based console games along the lines of the original so that they would be accurate clones of the original. That's mainly for nostalgia's sake so wasn't thinking of using something like BGT for development. Plus the reason I had suggested Python is I am really interested in cross-platform games. As many here know I primarily use Linux, not Windows, so frown whenever anyone develops something exclusively for Windows and can't easily port it to Linux. I imagine Mac users feel much the same way. Therefore rewriting the games in C++ or Python is more ideal than BGT which is as yet a Windows only technology. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Oh yeah, I used to play PCS Shoot all the time. Nothing so satisfying as the sound of a propane tank exploding when it's hit in the right place. I'd snap it up on iOS. Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Jan 9, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: PCS titles going to Mac / iOS would rock even more! ;) Cheers, Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:47 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: the pcs titles going to windows will rock but phill is probably going to port those eventually I hope. At 12:09 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update
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I have no experience with actually playing these games, but would be willing to give porting them a try if there's sourcecode and/or a detailed enough explanation available. I know very little python, but would be surprised if I couldn't get some kind of a solution together using bgt. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 18:00 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Zack, Cool. I'll definitely have to check this out. Elite was one of my favorite Dos games and I had no idea someone was in the process of rewriting the game. Text Elite looks like a decent start at a new Elite. Cheers! On 1/9/15, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Thomas et al, Since you mention Elite, I feel this link might be useful to you or anybody interested in doing something similar. It's a text-based reimplementation of the classic, trading system, which was basically the heart of the original game. There is no space combat or the like in here, but it's probably something which could be added easily enough. Since this is standard C, it should be relatively portable, I've often thought of seeing if I could get it working on Mac as a trivial programming exercise. http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/text/ http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/text/ Enjoy, Zack. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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PCS titles going to Mac / iOS would rock even more! ;) Cheers, Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:47 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: the pcs titles going to windows will rock but phill is probably going to port those eventually I hope. At 12:09 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
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I would buy it for windows and android. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/9/2015 2:33 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Oh yeah, I used to play PCS Shoot all the time. Nothing so satisfying as the sound of a propane tank exploding when it's hit in the right place. I'd snap it up on iOS. Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Jan 9, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: PCS titles going to Mac / iOS would rock even more! ;) Cheers, Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:47 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: the pcs titles going to windows will rock but phill is probably going to port those eventually I hope. At 12:09 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list,
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Well, I would like Golf and Leisure Suit Larry and how about Panzers too. On 1/9/15, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: I would buy it for windows and android. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/9/2015 2:33 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Oh yeah, I used to play PCS Shoot all the time. Nothing so satisfying as the sound of a propane tank exploding when it's hit in the right place. I'd snap it up on iOS. Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Jan 9, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: PCS titles going to Mac / iOS would rock even more! ;) Cheers, Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:47 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: the pcs titles going to windows will rock but phill is probably going to port those eventually I hope. At 12:09 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If
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Hi Shaun, I'm not familiar with those games specifically but as for AGT based games there is a Windows interpreter called Agility or something like that which is quite accessible. So I'm doubtful that any of those games would need to be converted into an actual Windows executable since there isn't any pressing need to do so. As to copyrights each game I'd consider would have to be evaluated for copyright status individually of course. In some cases the author has abandoned the games and therefore if they are released as abandonware the copyright issue isn't a problem. If the game isn't released as abandonware, still is under copyright, then an attempt to contact the author or publisher would be in order to request copyright status. However, in a lot of cases it wouldn't come to that. For example, Josh suggested rewriting Pinochle. Well, that is a standard card game with no implicit copyrights attached. I could write my own Pinochle game without stepping on anyone's toes just because its a common card game and I probably wouldn't be copying the Dos game exactly. I'd be making it in my own way and with variations that would make it uniquely different from the original. Thus copyright wouldn't be a major concern. As for Dosbox accessibility I think you greatly underestimate what it would take to make it accessible. In short, to make Dosbox accessible I'd throw away the original emulator and rewrite it from scratch with accessibility in mind. I'm not willing to do that and think it would be further ahead to simply rewrite a few games and applications that a person likes, make them run on modern platforms, without emulation thus resolving the problem once and for all. All this hanky panky with Dosbox is an unnecessary dependency that can and should be thrown away. Cheers! On 1/8/15, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: for me drone and braminar are games I play on a regular basus and wasteland rebbels. but what are the licences of half this stuff more over even if you have to buy them do the authors and ways to get them exist. I know agt has some sort of game runner though I'd like a way to run agt games in a windows something text is good but audio maybe for some of the dos games who knows. And there is the licence for said thing. richard disteno has done all his games for dos into windows ones mostly text console apps with sound where needed. So yes it can be done. However tom I think dosbox should be made accessable somehow, as a lot of dos games now are using that system and I see no reason why we can't do the same thing if we so need to. the issue is that dos screenreader and external synths are hard to come buy, well external synths actually. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I agree with tom however I do also want to try to get dosbox to be accessable somehow even if we would need a screenreader to work with dosbox written for doxbox itself. At 12:42 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: Hi Josh, Speak for yourself. You are entirely missing the point of why I'd be willing to rewrite some of these Dos games. The point is to get away from the virtual machines, emulators, and extra dependencies so we could just install and play the games as is. Anything else is too much of a headache in my opinion. Cheers! On 1/7/15, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: we should still keep the vm's around to preserve real ms-dos itself. just for fun. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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a lot of these old games are old and their address info may or may not exist anymore especially those from bbs sites now dead. Its likely even if they were copywriten we couldn't contact the authors anyway so we could go on writing them and if we get correct info on who these authors are we could handle it. Eamon deluxe is sadly for dos and the only way to get round it is to run a vm in 64 bit systems frank the author of this says he may we willing to look at the dosbox system at some point, several eamon authors are aparently round on eamonag.org so in that respect who knows. Its gets worse the further back we go. We would need people to research things and find out what to do licences, existance of authors, etc. idealy we should aim to get as many onboard as we can authors if they exist and are still able maybe it will work. I have no real programming experience or anything and while reality software probably is quite busy we could be interested, though not sure about all that as such who knows. We would need people that could do somethings like this that either knew before what dos was or have someones that were interested in continuing things. w At 12:49 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: Hi Josh, Those are a couple of good suggestions, but two questions come to mind. First, Jim Kitchen has a decent self-voicing football and a baseball game. What advantage would there be in rewriting Any Night Football and World Series Baseball since there is already two very accessible and good sports games like those out there for Windows? Second, if I were to rewrite those games I'd like to contact the copyright holder for permission prior to doing so. Do you know who has copyrights over said games? Cheers! On 1/7/15, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
the pcs titles going to windows will rock but phill is probably going to port those eventually I hope. At 12:09 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
for me drone and braminar are games I play on a regular basus and wasteland rebbels. but what are the licences of half this stuff more over even if you have to buy them do the authors and ways to get them exist. I know agt has some sort of game runner though I'd like a way to run agt games in a windows something text is good but audio maybe for some of the dos games who knows. And there is the licence for said thing. richard disteno has done all his games for dos into windows ones mostly text console apps with sound where needed. So yes it can be done. However tom I think dosbox should be made accessable somehow, as a lot of dos games now are using that system and I see no reason why we can't do the same thing if we so need to. the issue is that dos screenreader and external synths are hard to come buy, well external synths actually. At 12:00 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you
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for me, abandonware is like this. I buy a can of soup in the store. I eat the soup out of it. Then for a few more years I use the empty soup can to store various things. It's not abandoned I'm still using it and I would not like it if you steal it. But now later I'm done with the soup can and so I throw it out and put it out for the trash guy. But before the trash truck comes to take it someone walks bye and says hey, an old empty soup can and its right on top of the other garbage, I think I'll take it wash it ans use it. It's been thrown out so he must not care about it. So person2 takes it and puts it to their own uses. But no matter what person2 does he cannot put soup in it seal it back up and resell it. To do that he would have to work for the manufacturer. And if person2 did take it to the original company they may say sorry we can't take this, this can is nicked and scratched and dented up and is not up to our quality standard anymore. Here, take it back use it for your own personal use only, it is no longer fit to be used commercially. And then you say hey some of my friends need some storeage containers. So you pull out your replicator machine and replicate some more coppies of the dented scratched up old soup can. And your friends or person2's friends say hey thanks for the old dented cans. I can use these to store some coins and loose change. It's abandonware, no longer fit for commercial use. And so I think this analogy should also fit the abandonware as well. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/8/2015 1:46 AM, shaun everiss wrote: for me drone and braminar are games I play on a regular basus and wasteland rebbels. but what are the licences of half this stuff more over even if you have to buy them do the authors and ways to get them exist. I know agt has some sort of game runner though I'd like a way to run agt games in a windows something text is good but audio maybe for some of the dos games who knows. And there is the licence for said thing. richard disteno has done all his games for dos into windows ones mostly text console apps with sound where needed. So yes it can be done. However tom I think dosbox should be made accessable somehow, as a lot of dos games now are using that system and I see no reason why we can't do the same thing if we so need to. the issue is that dos screenreader and external synths are hard to come buy, well external synths actually. At 12:00 p.m. 8/01/2015, you wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can
[Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
we should still keep the vm's around to preserve real ms-dos itself. just for fun. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hello everyone, Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games. Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine with varying degrees of success. While all of those solutions have some merit I don't feel they truly address the problem of preserving those games and applications for the majority of VI gamers, because they are problematic at best and are not simple solutions to the problem. Ideally a solution wouldn't involve installing and configuring lots of extra software like emulators or virtual machines. I feel pretty confident in saying the average VI gamer would just rather install and play it no extra dependencies required. Therefore if we are going to truly preserve these games for the average user we need to look elsewhere other than emulators and virtual machines. What I mean by that is by getting together a handful of interested developers to rewrite most of these games for modern platforms. It isn't as complicated or as much of an undertaking as it sounds. A lot of these games we are talking about are text only and as long as a developer intends to rewrite it as a text based game he or she can rapidly rewrite the game since they aren't worried about all the extra overhead that would go into an audio game or a video game. By and large text applications and games are pretty simple, and don't take a great deal of time to create. Especially, if they use the right tools and languages for the job. Back in the 80's and 90's when a lot of these text games were written they would have been written in C or C++. That is fine, but there are simpler solutions now. One such solution is Python which is a high-level scripting language well suited to quick and dirty text applications and games such as we are discussing. I can see an interested developer rewriting some of these Dos games in Python, compiling them, and releasing them in a fairly short amount of time barring other commitments of course. I feel rewriting these games is the best of all possibilities because it resolves all the problems with playing the originals. First, since the games will be rewritten from scratch they will be compiled for 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems thus negating the requirement for a 16-bit environment to run them. Second, they can be released as open source so that future generations of gamers can take the source make new builds if and when needed. Third, they can be redesigned and ported to multiple platforms meaning that instead of just being strictly a Windows game they can be compiled and run on Mac, Linux, etc. Finally, they are games that a blind and a sighted gamer can truly play together. While there will always be disparities between a blind and sighted gamer playing a video game or an audio game, but they would be equal in playing text based games. So I see this as being a distinct advantage of having a common user interface like text. In any case I happen to have some free time coming up, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in this project. If so what Dos games would be foremost on your wish list and why? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
Hi Josh, Speak for yourself. You are entirely missing the point of why I'd be willing to rewrite some of these Dos games. The point is to get away from the virtual machines, emulators, and extra dependencies so we could just install and play the games as is. Anything else is too much of a headache in my opinion. Cheers! On 1/7/15, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: we should still keep the vm's around to preserve real ms-dos itself. just for fun. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Josh, Those are a couple of good suggestions, but two questions come to mind. First, Jim Kitchen has a decent self-voicing football and a baseball game. What advantage would there be in rewriting Any Night Football and World Series Baseball since there is already two very accessible and good sports games like those out there for Windows? Second, if I were to rewrite those games I'd like to contact the copyright holder for permission prior to doing so. Do you know who has copyrights over said games? Cheers! On 1/7/15, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
I suppose you could say one person's head-ache is another person's idea of fun? but I agree rewriting them that is the games would let lots more folks play them. not everybody wants to set up a talking real ms-dos virtual machine after all, do they? follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:42 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Speak for yourself. You are entirely missing the point of why I'd be willing to rewrite some of these Dos games. The point is to get away from the virtual machines, emulators, and extra dependencies so we could just install and play the games as is. Anything else is too much of a headache in my opinion. Cheers! On 1/7/15, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: we should still keep the vm's around to preserve real ms-dos itself. just for fun. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games Preservation Project
first, carl nipla's ANF game has lots more plays than jim's game. and the world series baseball by harry hollingsworth lets you easily make your own teams and has more options than jim's game. at the same time jim's games are fun because of their sounds. ANF and jim's games are both fun in their own special way. same if you compare WSB and jim's baseball game. they are both fun equally but in different ways. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site On 1/7/2015 6:49 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Those are a couple of good suggestions, but two questions come to mind. First, Jim Kitchen has a decent self-voicing football and a baseball game. What advantage would there be in rewriting Any Night Football and World Series Baseball since there is already two very accessible and good sports games like those out there for Windows? Second, if I were to rewrite those games I'd like to contact the copyright holder for permission prior to doing so. Do you know who has copyrights over said games? Cheers! On 1/7/15, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i like sports they are my favorites. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 or facebook email joshknnd1...@gmail.com will find facebook site --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
Cool, please let me know if anyone can get this to work. Now I wish PCSGames still had their Dos links up. I can try Jim Kitchens Dos games though. On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hey i found a gem! the flipper screen reader with sbtalker included! here is the link. if anyone gets this working in dosbox please let me know. https://www.sendspace.com/file/qsfgnl --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
yes, sb-talker was the only software speech for dos that I know of. and flipper was a very good screen reader. that website i found has tons of old dos goodies on it. such as wordperfect 5.1, lotus 123, and more. On 12/18/2014 7:47 AM, Joshua Tubbs wrote: Cool, please let me know if anyone can get this to work. Now I wish PCSGames still had their Dos links up. I can try Jim Kitchens Dos games though. On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hey i found a gem! the flipper screen reader with sbtalker included! here is the link. if anyone gets this working in dosbox please let me know. https://www.sendspace.com/file/qsfgnl --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] dos games
hey i found a gem! the flipper screen reader with sbtalker included! here is the link. if anyone gets this working in dosbox please let me know. https://www.sendspace.com/file/qsfgnl --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
where do you get your dos games from again I lost the link to the zips. At 02:12 PM 6/20/2013, you wrote: that is in the zip file also. On 6/19/2013 8:13 PM, Lisa Hayes wrote: what about fox and hounds. from someone Ann moris enterprises sold it. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:36 AM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games well guys I tried, the links for the old pcs dos games no longer work. unfortunately I cannot get shoot97, cops98 and some others. the links don't work anymore. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games work
Hi josh just emailed you I may take you up on your offer. I will look for my own xp but well whatever. At 02:01 PM 6/20/2013, you wrote: hey everyone all the old dos games work great in windows xp. NVDA works the best for a screen reader to play the old dos games. for the games vm, email me at joshknnd1...@gmail.com and we can find a way to get the custom vm with dos games over to whoever wishes to have them. the vm with custom dos games working with nvda is 1.3 gb in size. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games work
Hi Josh, When you say that the dos games work, I was just wondering if they work anything like they used to on a dos machine with a dos screen reader and hardware synthesizer. That is the text if it was meant to, got spoken automatically. And do built in review keys work? I used built in review keys even in my dos games. Sighted people would not see it, but I could write to the screen right over top of the same text and do it so that it was or was not spoken by the screen reader. I still miss the locate function to locate and print text where you wanted it on the screen. And of course the screen was always 80 columns by 25 rows. And Jaws for dos would report row and column if you asked it to. I was happy to put text on the screen when I could make sure that it would be spoken and be sure of it's format and position on the screen. Now I am in Windows where that is not as easy for me to do, so I am more happy using the sapi5 text to speech engine. BFN Jim C:\Dos . . . C\Dos\Run . . . Run\Dos\Run j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
they are all in the virtual machine i sent you, under the windows xp my documents in start menu. On 6/20/2013 2:08 AM, shaun everiss wrote: where do you get your dos games from again I lost the link to the zips. At 02:12 PM 6/20/2013, you wrote: that is in the zip file also. On 6/19/2013 8:13 PM, Lisa Hayes wrote: what about fox and hounds. from someone Ann moris enterprises sold it. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:36 AM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games well guys I tried, the links for the old pcs dos games no longer work. unfortunately I cannot get shoot97, cops98 and some others. the links don't work anymore. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
either that or check the root of the c drive in games. any night football and wsbb are the only ones i installed into the vm so far. c:\anf and c:\baseball On 6/20/2013 2:08 AM, shaun everiss wrote: where do you get your dos games from again I lost the link to the zips. At 02:12 PM 6/20/2013, you wrote: that is in the zip file also. On 6/19/2013 8:13 PM, Lisa Hayes wrote: what about fox and hounds. from someone Ann moris enterprises sold it. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:36 AM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games well guys I tried, the links for the old pcs dos games no longer work. unfortunately I cannot get shoot97, cops98 and some others. the links don't work anymore. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games work
so far with NVDA all the games I tested work like they did in dos. your baseball game for dos I had some trouble getting it to work, and sometimes in world series baseball things are read twice by nvda. other than that they work great. On 6/20/2013 5:30 AM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Josh, When you say that the dos games work, I was just wondering if they work anything like they used to on a dos machine with a dos screen reader and hardware synthesizer. That is the text if it was meant to, got spoken automatically. And do built in review keys work? I used built in review keys even in my dos games. Sighted people would not see it, but I could write to the screen right over top of the same text and do it so that it was or was not spoken by the screen reader. I still miss the locate function to locate and print text where you wanted it on the screen. And of course the screen was always 80 columns by 25 rows. And Jaws for dos would report row and column if you asked it to. I was happy to put text on the screen when I could make sure that it would be spoken and be sure of it's format and position on the screen. Now I am in Windows where that is not as easy for me to do, so I am more happy using the sapi5 text to speech engine. BFN Jim C:\Dos . . . C\Dos\Run . . . Run\Dos\Run j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
thanks At 01:56 AM 6/21/2013, you wrote: they are all in the virtual machine i sent you, under the windows xp my documents in start menu. On 6/20/2013 2:08 AM, shaun everiss wrote: where do you get your dos games from again I lost the link to the zips. At 02:12 PM 6/20/2013, you wrote: that is in the zip file also. On 6/19/2013 8:13 PM, Lisa Hayes wrote: what about fox and hounds. from someone Ann moris enterprises sold it. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:36 AM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games well guys I tried, the links for the old pcs dos games no longer work. unfortunately I cannot get shoot97, cops98 and some others. the links don't work anymore. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] dos games
well guys I tried, the links for the old pcs dos games no longer work. unfortunately I cannot get shoot97, cops98 and some others. the links don't work anymore. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
what about fox and hounds. from someone Ann moris enterprises sold it. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:36 AM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games well guys I tried, the links for the old pcs dos games no longer work. unfortunately I cannot get shoot97, cops98 and some others. the links don't work anymore. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] dos games work
hey everyone all the old dos games work great in windows xp. NVDA works the best for a screen reader to play the old dos games. for the games vm, email me at joshknnd1...@gmail.com and we can find a way to get the custom vm with dos games over to whoever wishes to have them. the vm with custom dos games working with nvda is 1.3 gb in size. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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that is in the zip file also. On 6/19/2013 8:13 PM, Lisa Hayes wrote: what about fox and hounds. from someone Ann moris enterprises sold it. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:36 AM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games well guys I tried, the links for the old pcs dos games no longer work. unfortunately I cannot get shoot97, cops98 and some others. the links don't work anymore. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hello how does jaws work with it? bfn James -- From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] dos games work hey everyone all the old dos games work great in windows xp. NVDA works the best for a screen reader to play the old dos games. for the games vm, email me at joshknnd1...@gmail.com and we can find a way to get the custom vm with dos games over to whoever wishes to have them. the vm with custom dos games working with nvda is 1.3 gb in size. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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nvda only works with it. On 6/19/2013 11:16 PM, James Bartlett wrote: Hello how does jaws work with it? bfn James -- From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] dos games work hey everyone all the old dos games work great in windows xp. NVDA works the best for a screen reader to play the old dos games. for the games vm, email me at joshknnd1...@gmail.com and we can find a way to get the custom vm with dos games over to whoever wishes to have them. the vm with custom dos games working with nvda is 1.3 gb in size. thanks Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] dos games
Original Message Subject: Re: the rep Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:58:07 +0100 From: Lee Hodgson derbyd...@blueyonder.co.uk To: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com believe me wish I had the knowlefge to play the dos games on an xp, as love the old games but haven't a clue how to make them work, so if there is any easy way to explain would love to know and thaks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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This is for Lisa, because I managed to lose your email address. This email account has an 8 mb attachment limit, so if you could contact me off-list where I can give you a better address, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks and sorry, John. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Lisa, Yes, I also was disappointed with the end of Leather Goddesses of Phobos. It has been so many years ago that I finished Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy. I think that we just saved the ship and lived happily ever after. Sorry, I just don't remember anything more than that. It was pretty easy with the built in hints. I only used them a few times though. I had to use a walk through to get through Leather Goddesses of Phobos. Only twice like with the man eating plant and the whole walk through for the maze. I bet that you would enjoy Deep Space Drifter. I did anyway, just wish that I could have finished it. BFN Jim Marriage is the only adventure open to the cowardly. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
Where and can i get deepspace drifter do you know jim? i'd like to try it, thanks. And i used the walkthrough with leather as well. ruddy plant. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Lisa Hayes Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games Hi Lisa, Yes, I also was disappointed with the end of Leather Goddesses of Phobos. It has been so many years ago that I finished Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy. I think that we just saved the ship and lived happily ever after. Sorry, I just don't remember anything more than that. It was pretty easy with the built in hints. I only used them a few times though. I had to use a walk through to get through Leather Goddesses of Phobos. Only twice like with the man eating plant and the whole walk through for the maze. I bet that you would enjoy Deep Space Drifter. I did anyway, just wish that I could have finished it. BFN Jim Marriage is the only adventure open to the cowardly. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Jim, That sounds about right. I finished Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy several years ago, and as I recall the end of the game was pretty lame. It didn't really feel like it brought much closure to the story at least for me. On 4/30/2012 5:20 AM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Lisa, Yes, I also was disappointed with the end of Leather Goddesses of Phobos. It has been so many years ago that I finished Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy. I think that we just saved the ship and lived happily ever after. Sorry, I just don't remember anything more than that. It was pretty easy with the built in hints. I only used them a few times though. I had to use a walk through to get through Leather Goddesses of Phobos. Only twice like with the man eating plant and the whole walk through for the maze. I bet that you would enjoy Deep Space Drifter. I did anyway, just wish that I could have finished it. BFN Jim Marriage is the only adventure open to the cowardly. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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wEll i never finished it, i did wishbring and moonmist, now that was agod game, now talking about games how's fte going thomas? any tgime yet. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games Hi Jim, That sounds about right. I finished Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy several years ago, and as I recall the end of the game was pretty lame. It didn't really feel like it brought much closure to the story at least for me. On 4/30/2012 5:20 AM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Lisa, Yes, I also was disappointed with the end of Leather Goddesses of Phobos. It has been so many years ago that I finished Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy. I think that we just saved the ship and lived happily ever after. Sorry, I just don't remember anything more than that. It was pretty easy with the built in hints. I only used them a few times though. I had to use a walk through to get through Leather Goddesses of Phobos. Only twice like with the man eating plant and the whole walk through for the maze. I bet that you would enjoy Deep Space Drifter. I did anyway, just wish that I could have finished it. BFN Jim Marriage is the only adventure open to the cowardly. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Lisa, Sorry, FTE has been on the back burner for a while. I've not had much time to work on it yet. Cheers! On 4/30/2012 8:33 AM, Lisa Hayes wrote: wEll i never finished it, i did wishbring and moonmist, now that was agod game, now talking about games how's fte going thomas? any tgime yet. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games Hi Jim, That sounds about right. I finished Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy several years ago, and as I recall the end of the game was pretty lame. It didn't really feel like it brought much closure to the story at least for me. On 4/30/2012 5:20 AM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Lisa, Yes, I also was disappointed with the end of Leather Goddesses of Phobos. It has been so many years ago that I finished Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy. I think that we just saved the ship and lived happily ever after. Sorry, I just don't remember anything more than that. It was pretty easy with the built in hints. I only used them a few times though. I had to use a walk through to get through Leather Goddesses of Phobos. Only twice like with the man eating plant and the whole walk through for the maze. I bet that you would enjoy Deep Space Drifter. I did anyway, just wish that I could have finished it. BFN Jim Marriage is the only adventure open to the cowardly. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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NO worries, not one in the least, i was just curious. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games Hi Lisa, Sorry, FTE has been on the back burner for a while. I've not had much time to work on it yet. Cheers! On 4/30/2012 8:33 AM, Lisa Hayes wrote: wEll i never finished it, i did wishbring and moonmist, now that was agod game, now talking about games how's fte going thomas? any tgime yet. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games Hi Jim, That sounds about right. I finished Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy several years ago, and as I recall the end of the game was pretty lame. It didn't really feel like it brought much closure to the story at least for me. On 4/30/2012 5:20 AM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Lisa, Yes, I also was disappointed with the end of Leather Goddesses of Phobos. It has been so many years ago that I finished Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy. I think that we just saved the ship and lived happily ever after. Sorry, I just don't remember anything more than that. It was pretty easy with the built in hints. I only used them a few times though. I had to use a walk through to get through Leather Goddesses of Phobos. Only twice like with the man eating plant and the whole walk through for the maze. I bet that you would enjoy Deep Space Drifter. I did anyway, just wish that I could have finished it. BFN Jim Marriage is the only adventure open to the cowardly. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Paulette, No, I never solved the Elf game. Actually not even sure how much I ever played it. It would have been awhile ago. I did fire it up yesterday and it plays Christmas music through the pc speaker. You know that many of the old dos games will play just fine on a Windows XP computer. Some do not, but many do. You can just put the games in a folder and click on them, or you can go to the dos command prompt and start them as you did in the dos days. In about 2000 I started converting my dos games to windows versions and can do so much more with the sounds in the windows versions. Plus I really like allot of my sapi5 voices much better than the dos hardware synthesizers, so I don't play many of the dos games like I used to. But I do remember that I only ever finished a few of the text adventure games, such as Leather Goddesses of Phobos, Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy and Vampires. I also very much liked Deep Space Drifter, but was never able to finish it. BFN Jim Ithinkmyspacebarstoppedworking. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
JIm i never finished hitch hikers, but did leather goddeses and wishbringer and moonmist i never played the others you mentioned so what was the end of hitch. i was cheesed off with the ending to leather. jusg left on a street. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Paulette Vickery Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games Hi Paulette, No, I never solved the Elf game. Actually not even sure how much I ever played it. It would have been awhile ago. I did fire it up yesterday and it plays Christmas music through the pc speaker. You know that many of the old dos games will play just fine on a Windows XP computer. Some do not, but many do. You can just put the games in a folder and click on them, or you can go to the dos command prompt and start them as you did in the dos days. In about 2000 I started converting my dos games to windows versions and can do so much more with the sounds in the windows versions. Plus I really like allot of my sapi5 voices much better than the dos hardware synthesizers, so I don't play many of the dos games like I used to. But I do remember that I only ever finished a few of the text adventure games, such as Leather Goddesses of Phobos, Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy and Vampires. I also very much liked Deep Space Drifter, but was never able to finish it. BFN Jim Ithinkmyspacebarstoppedworking. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Paulette, You don't need a Dos computer to play Dos based games. Windows has something called the Command Prompt which allows you to play old Dos games as well as run various Dos applications inside Windows XP. To run the command prompt press Windows+r, when the run dialog appears type cmd, and press enter. You will get a Window that looks like an MS Dos prompt. You can use all the Dos commands such as: cd to change directory, md to create a directory, dir to list files in a directory, and so on. Cheers! On 4/26/2012 2:37 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Hi Jim, Wow! It sounds like you have every dos game ever made! That is an impressive collection. I don't have a dos computer any longer. So I don't know how I could play any of them. Have you ever solved Elf? If so, how did you do it? Paulette --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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And when you've finished your DOS session, type exit, without the quotes, to get out of DOS and back into Windows. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 5:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games Hi Paulette, You don't need a Dos computer to play Dos based games. Windows has something called the Command Prompt which allows you to play old Dos games as well as run various Dos applications inside Windows XP. To run the command prompt press Windows+r, when the run dialog appears type cmd, and press enter. You will get a Window that looks like an MS Dos prompt. You can use all the Dos commands such as: cd to change directory, md to create a directory, dir to list files in a directory, and so on. Cheers! On 4/26/2012 2:37 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Hi Jim, Wow! It sounds like you have every dos game ever made! That is an impressive collection. I don't have a dos computer any longer. So I don't know how I could play any of them. Have you ever solved Elf? If so, how did you do it? Paulette --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Thanks Tom, (or would you prefer to be called Thomas), so much for those directions. I will have to do that and see if I can play my old 3 favorites. Paulette -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games Hi Paulette, You don't need a Dos computer to play Dos based games. Windows has something called the Command Prompt which allows you to play old Dos games as well as run various Dos applications inside Windows XP. To run the command prompt press Windows+r, when the run dialog appears type cmd, and press enter. You will get a Window that looks like an MS Dos prompt. You can use all the Dos commands such as: cd to change directory, md to create a directory, dir to list files in a directory, and so on. Cheers! On 4/26/2012 2:37 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Hi Jim, Wow! It sounds like you have every dos game ever made! That is an impressive collection. I don't have a dos computer any longer. So I don't know how I could play any of them. Have you ever solved Elf? If so, how did you do it? Paulette --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4957 - Release Date: 04/25/12 18:34:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Thanks Charles, I'm so glad you told me how to get out. I certainly don't want to get stuck in dos mode. Smile. Paulette -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 8:27 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games And when you've finished your DOS session, type exit, without the quotes, to get out of DOS and back into Windows. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 5:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games Hi Paulette, You don't need a Dos computer to play Dos based games. Windows has something called the Command Prompt which allows you to play old Dos games as well as run various Dos applications inside Windows XP. To run the command prompt press Windows+r, when the run dialog appears type cmd, and press enter. You will get a Window that looks like an MS Dos prompt. You can use all the Dos commands such as: cd to change directory, md to create a directory, dir to list files in a directory, and so on. Cheers! On 4/26/2012 2:37 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Hi Jim, Wow! It sounds like you have every dos game ever made! That is an impressive collection. I don't have a dos computer any longer. So I don't know how I could play any of them. Have you ever solved Elf? If so, how did you do it? Paulette --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4957 - Release Date: 04/25/12 18:34:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Either will do. Although, I have a preference for Thomas. Anyway, I am glad I could be of some help. Hopefully it will get you well on your way to having a great collection of games. On 4/27/2012 1:42 PM, Paulette Vickery wrote: Thanks Tom, (or would you prefer to be called Thomas), so much for those directions. I will have to do that and see if I can play my old 3 favorites. Paulette --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Dos Games
Does anyone know where I can find Carl Nipola Any Night Football World Series and the shooting game I wanted to play those old dos games I wonder can you still find and and get them if anyone knows where I can find these games please post thanks.-- This is Jason known as BlindFury --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
Hi Jim, Wow! It sounds like you have every dos game ever made! That is an impressive collection. I don't have a dos computer any longer. So I don't know how I could play any of them. Have you ever solved Elf? If so, how did you do it? Paulette -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:41 AM To: Paulette Vickery Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games Hi Paulette, I do have a dos text game named Elf, but am not sure which haunted house game you might be talking about. Just for the heck of it, here is the list of old text dos games that I have on my external hard drive. [2112] [ABUSE][ACONCENT] [ALGOLF] [ALICE][YAHTZEE] [ALS-LIFE] [AMIS] [ANF] [APPRENTI] [AREACODE] [ASTRIVIA] [AXORU] [B-WARE] [X_WOF][BACHE][BAJORAN] [XMONOPOL] [BASEBALL] [BIGRIG] [BIGTREKW] [BILLBORD] [BIRTHDAY] [BLACKJAK] [BOMB] [BOPIT][BRAMINAR] [BREAKOUT] [BSHIP][BULLSEYE] [CALENDAR] [CAVE] [CAVQUEST] [CHESCLOK] [CHRIST] [CLAUDE] [CLIFF][CLIFF2] [CNYUSCOR] [COLOSSAL] [CONCENT] [COPS] [COPS1] [COPS2][CRIME][CRUISIN] [CRUSADE] [CYCAVE] [DARKCON] [DAY] [DBLASTER] [DEAD] [DEEP] [DEPRESS] [DND] [DODGE][DOPLGNGR] [DOSPAL] [DRAGONS] [DREAM][DRONE][DRUGWARS] [DSENCHNT] [DUDLEY] [DUNGEON] [DUNJIN] [EAMON][ELECTRA] [ELF] [ELSINORE] [ENHANCED] [FABLE][FANTASY1] [FBI] [FICTEST] [FIELDGEN] [FLINGS] [GAMBLER] [GHOSTTWN] [GLOSRY] [GOBLET] [WW-VI][GOLF82] [GOLF96] [GOTHIC] [GRAIL][GROUND0] [GW-GOLF] [HANGMAN] [HARRY][HAW] [HELLFIRE] [HJM] [HOLLYWS] [HORNAD] [HUGECAVE] [HUMBUG] [INCA] [INFOCOM] [INFOCOM2] [INTERSE2] [INTERSEX] [INVEST] [JACJIM] [JIMSLIFE] [JOKE-WTL] [JOKEPROG] [JOTTO] [JR] [JUKE-BOX] [KARIM][KINKY][LAB] [LABYRINT] [LEATHER] [LEGACY] [LIFE] [LONEWOLF] [LOTTERY] [LPARTY] [LUCKY][MANSION] [MARS] [MASTMIND] [MCMURPHY] [MDB] [MEDIC][WUZ] [WSBB] [MET] [MONOPOL2] [MONOPOL3] [MONOPOL4] [MONOPOLY] [MORAFF] [MURPHY] [NEWYORK] [NFL] [NIMMOIA] [NIRVANA] [NOBEER] [NOVA] [NUDEST] [PAC-MAN] [PANZERS] [PARANOIA] [PERILS] [PERSONA] [PHANTOM] [POKER][POPSTAR] [PORK1][PORK2] [PORN34] [PUNISHER] [QUEST][RAMSENT] [REACTION] [REVENGE] [ROULETTE] [RUDE-DOS] [RUN4PRES] [WRESTLE] [WORDSMAK] [RUTH] [SL] [SEXTET] [SEXWORLD] [SFTPORN2] [SHERWOOD] [SHIFTER] [SHOOT96] [SIMON] [SIMONAX] [SKUNK][SLOT36] [SMUTCITY] [SORCER] [SOUNDEFF] [SOUNDEMO] [SPACEADV] [SPACESHP] [SPADES] [STARLANE] [STARMULE] [STARMULV] [STARSHIP] [STARTREK] [SUSAN][T-ZERO] [TENPIN] [TESS] [TINGLE] [TITANIC] [TOA] [TREASURE] [TREK99] [TREKTRIV] [TRIVIA] [TRIVTREK] [TROAD][TRUCKER] [TWOWAYS] [UNDERGND] [VAMPIRE] [WANDWII] [WAR] [WAY] [WEATHER] [WILDER] [WOMBAT] And here is a list of dos games that are not text based per say, so may or may not be very accessible. [3-DEMON] [3X] [4X4RACER] [AJETCRUZ] [ALDO] [XARGON] [AMCUP][AROUSAL2] [ASTRO][ASTROTIT] [AUTOBOTS] [AUTORACE] [BAD] [WOLF] [BALLS10] [BANNER] [BASH] [BEARSTRM] [BOPPIN] [BSTONE] [BUTTSLAM] [CARDRAW] [CARRACE] [CHESS][CHESSBRD] [CLONINV] [CORRIDR7] [COWBOYS] [CRUSHER] [CRYPT][DARKCAST] [DEMORACE] [DOMINATE] [DOOM] [DOOM2][DUKE] [ELIZA][EMPIRE] [ENTRAP] [ETCHER] [EVASIVE] [EXPLORER] [F40PTL] [FACEMP] [FLI] [FLIGHT] [FLIGHT-5] [FLIPPER] [FORD] [GODDESS] [WILF] [GOLF] [GRANDPRI] [GRANPRIX] [GWSPOKER] [HARRY][HIGHWAY] [HOCUS] [HOGAN][HOYLE][HUGO] [HUGO2][HUGO3] [HUGO3D] [JEOP25] [JEOPARD2] [JEOPARDS] [JEOPARDY] [JILL] [KEEN] [KEN] [LABBITS] [MADNESS] [MAG] [MARIO][MAZQUEST] [MCDOE][MENACE] [MGOLF][MICGOLF] [MILLE][MSTRIKER] [NUKEM] [OGB] [OGX] [ORIGAMI] [PASSWORD] [PHPOKER] [PINBALL] [PRACE][QUEST1] [RACKEMUP
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
Hi, You can find those from http://kitchensinc.net saygilar sevgiler. - Original Message - From: fred olver goodfo...@charter.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games Michael, if you want others to share what they have with you then you need to think about extending the same courtesy. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 9:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games Hey, could someone please give me a list of dos games for the blind? I would like to get some of those old dos games for my computer. I just got destination mars and run for president on my computer and my screenreader system access read them just fine. It's just like if I was playing on a old dos machine except with no kind of audio except my reader. thanks. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hey, Thanks. But I know about that site. I was looking for any other dos games for the blind that was text base game. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] dos games
Hey, could someone please give me a list of dos games for the blind? I would like to get some of those old dos games for my computer. I just got destination mars and run for president on my computer and my screenreader system access read them just fine. It's just like if I was playing on a old dos machine except with no kind of audio except my reader. thanks. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games
Michael, if you want others to share what they have with you then you need to think about extending the same courtesy. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 9:11 PM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games Hey, could someone please give me a list of dos games for the blind? I would like to get some of those old dos games for my computer. I just got destination mars and run for president on my computer and my screenreader system access read them just fine. It's just like if I was playing on a old dos machine except with no kind of audio except my reader. thanks. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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OK I'll attach the files in the next post. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games again
Hi Peter, I'm sorry, but I don't remember how I had multiple player support in my dos version of Simon. And I don't have much luck trying to run dos programs on my XP computer. I was told though that my dos version of Simon did not play the way that the game of Simon is supposed to be played. BFN Jim Overload--core meltdown sequence initiated. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games again
Hi Shaun, Yes, I guess that is what I meant when I said that the dos games put text to the screen, thus you can use your screen reader rather than a sapi5 voice. Personally though I very much prefer ATT Crystal, ATT Lauren, ATT Charles or even Neo Speech Kate for game play. I really prefer almost any ATT voice over Eloquence for game play. I do use Eloquence for things like writing this message in HJ Pad. And then I use a Triple Talk USB synthesizer for programming in VB6. Just different preferences for different things and different people I guess. BFN Jim We prefer to speak evil of ourselves rather than not speak of ourselves at all. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games again
matheus, we are looking into years here, not to add that sarah is not finished yet. plus, at least with outlook you can make rules so if it sees a message about the pcs dos games or similar it'll instantly trash it, and like you said many people want it. this thread there on klango is quite long and I would suggest reading it to see what was going on there, as that was quite interesting. too bad we gone nowhere afterwards. - Original Message - From: Matheus an...@bol.com.br To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games again but look,to make windows versions of these games it will take monts, and it's really simple, make a file explaining the steps that the user have to do to be able to run the games,and explain that since it was a collection of old games, you aren't going to give support / answer to questions related to the games, and that if it doesn't works, to the user simple don't play it. and still, if you are going to make windows versions of these games it will take more time from you, that's even worse bekause you will do something again that's already finished. a lot of peoples want these games, they sayd here, on the klango forums, even created a petition. -Mensagem original- De: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Domingo, 2 de Agosto de 2009 18:28 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] dos games again Hi Josh, I know there are a few people who can still play the old PCS DOS games but giving all my DOS games away for free would not be a good business move as I plan to make windows versions of many of them. Also despite putting a notice that I would not support them, I am sure to get hundreds of messages complaining that the games don't work on their computers. If another game developer is willing to collaborate and help me produce windows versions of my old games I would welcome any contact. - Original Message - From: Josh jkenn...@gmail.com To: gamers list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games again hello, the following is a klango forum post about classic dos games. also if anyone knows if any night football for dos works in windows I'd like to have the full copy of that game, along with full copy of world series baseball for dos. And now, for even more good news! Listen to the following from Phil very carefully: Hi Trenton I finally broke down and purchased a new computer with Vista. I will be trying out my DOS games on it. Is there something you did to get Jim Kitchen's DOS games to work on your computer? Phil Yes folks, they work wonderflly on Vista! And now, my message to Phil himself: - Original Message - From: Trenton Matthews To: p...@pcsgames.net Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Kitchen's Inc Games For Dos Confirmed On Vista Platform! Hello Phil, If you can't upload any of the dos games that you have, can I at least donate something to you for the game snipe hunt or Panzars In North Africa? Jim's Dos version of bopit game has no problems with the Vista basic machine I have. So I just wanted to let ya know that they are working fine on my machine with no problems. I know you're probably annoyed by now about this, I just wanted to let ya know that I am not having any problems. All you'd have to do, is make a disclaimer on your dos games page that no support for these titles is available, and if something happens to their pc, its not your fault. Your dos games for the blind, are like what the atari was for the sighted gamer. They may not have been workable with every sound card on the market, but at least you provided different sound drivers for the game to at least have a way to produce its sounds, and I liked what you created! Windows may be the way of the future, however DOS still has its pride. You can still make your windows port of all the games you've ever made, but just like the sighted gamer, there isn't a sighted that could not be found online for free. And that's why I, and at least 5 other folks want the games back on the market! And here's proof to that claim: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/pcsdosgames One of the users on Klango has started a petition to get these games back. If you don't want to bring back your famous games for me, then do it for your fans of the audio gaming world, and I just don't mean for the audiogames.net web site! And yes, on the front page close to the top of the galaxy, it says A devision of PCS Games! The Gaming Galaxy was made in your honor, and the only way its going away, is if your web site does. I just wanted you to know that. Take care, and happy gaming! Sincerely, Trenton I think we wrapped this up no didn't we! *grin* 2008-11-10 02:48:48 Join me on klango at www.klango.net visit and sign my petition at: http://www.petitiononline.com/coda1234/petition.html and visit my blog at: http://jkenn337
Re: [Audyssey] dos games again
Hi Josh, Just wanted to mention that I have converted all of my dos games to windows versions. Personally I think that the windows versions are much better. You know because they use DirectX rather than shelling out to use an external sound player program. Plus I like the sapi5 voices. The only advantage that I can even think of is that the dos versions do put text to the screen rather than to the sapi5 text to speech engine. BFN Jim DOS never says EXCELLENT command or filename... j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games again
hello jim, speaking of that, would it be possible for you to add in the multi player support at 1 pc the dos version of simon had? before I was used to compete with my sister and see who goes farther but now it's a litle harder to do it. also the dos go sound is way better than the windows beep you get now. that got me confused a couple times. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Josh Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games again Hi Josh, Just wanted to mention that I have converted all of my dos games to windows versions. Personally I think that the windows versions are much better. You know because they use DirectX rather than shelling out to use an external sound player program. Plus I like the sapi5 voices. The only advantage that I can even think of is that the dos versions do put text to the screen rather than to the sapi5 text to speech engine. BFN Jim DOS never says EXCELLENT command or filename... j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Well, as far as time goes that depends on how much time the developer has to work on it and how easy the game is to program. Some of the PCS Dos games are fairly simple programs. For example, PCS Monopoly, probably wouldn't take that long to create. The Kick Boxing game would be fairly easy to write as well. peter Mahach wrote: matheus, we are looking into years here, not to add that sarah is not finished yet. plus, at least with outlook you can make rules so if it sees a message about the pcs dos games or similar it'll instantly trash it, and like you said many people want it. this thread there on klango is quite long and I would suggest reading it to see what was going on there, as that was quite interesting. too bad we gone nowhere afterwards. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Josh, Well, As I am a Window Eyes user for the most part that is what I use when playing games. Window Eyes 7.1 has decent support for the Windows command prompt, and doesn't have problems with the Dos games I play. Josh wrote: Hi, Does anybody on this list play the old dos games in a DOS box under windows? What screen readers do they work best with? Josh Join me on klango at www.klango.net visit and sign my petition at: http://www.petitiononline.com/coda1234/petition.html and visit my blog at: http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net follow me on twitter at http://www.twitter.com/jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] dos games under windows?
Hi, Does anybody on this list play the old dos games in a DOS box under windows? What screen readers do they work best with? Josh Join me on klango at www.klango.net visit and sign my petition at: http://www.petitiononline.com/coda1234/petition.html and visit my blog at: http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net follow me on twitter at http://www.twitter.com/jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] dos games again
hello, the following is a klango forum post about classic dos games. also if anyone knows if any night football for dos works in windows I'd like to have the full copy of that game, along with full copy of world series baseball for dos. And now, for even more good news! Listen to the following from Phil very carefully: Hi Trenton I finally broke down and purchased a new computer with Vista. I will be trying out my DOS games on it. Is there something you did to get Jim Kitchen's DOS games to work on your computer? Phil Yes folks, they work wonderflly on Vista! And now, my message to Phil himself: - Original Message - From: Trenton Matthews To: p...@pcsgames.net Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Kitchen's Inc Games For Dos Confirmed On Vista Platform! Hello Phil, If you can't upload any of the dos games that you have, can I at least donate something to you for the game snipe hunt or Panzars In North Africa? Jim's Dos version of bopit game has no problems with the Vista basic machine I have. So I just wanted to let ya know that they are working fine on my machine with no problems. I know you're probably annoyed by now about this, I just wanted to let ya know that I am not having any problems. All you'd have to do, is make a disclaimer on your dos games page that no support for these titles is available, and if something happens to their pc, its not your fault. Your dos games for the blind, are like what the atari was for the sighted gamer. They may not have been workable with every sound card on the market, but at least you provided different sound drivers for the game to at least have a way to produce its sounds, and I liked what you created! Windows may be the way of the future, however DOS still has its pride. You can still make your windows port of all the games you've ever made, but just like the sighted gamer, there isn't a sighted that could not be found online for free. And that's why I, and at least 5 other folks want the games back on the market! And here's proof to that claim: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/pcsdosgames One of the users on Klango has started a petition to get these games back. If you don't want to bring back your famous games for me, then do it for your fans of the audio gaming world, and I just don't mean for the audiogames.net web site! And yes, on the front page close to the top of the galaxy, it says A devision of PCS Games! The Gaming Galaxy was made in your honor, and the only way its going away, is if your web site does. I just wanted you to know that. Take care, and happy gaming! Sincerely, Trenton I think we wrapped this up no didn't we! *grin* 2008-11-10 02:48:48 Join me on klango at www.klango.net visit and sign my petition at: http://www.petitiononline.com/coda1234/petition.html and visit my blog at: http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net follow me on twitter at http://www.twitter.com/jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games under windows?
Hi Josh, I tried the cops demo under Windows with Jaws 5 and it worked fine. The only restriction was I had to hit insert s. Now, i'm using Windows Vista, and Jaws 10.0, and Window-Eyes 7.1. - Original Message - From: Josh jkenn...@gmail.com To: gamers list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games under windows? Hi, Does anybody on this list play the old dos games in a DOS box under windows? What screen readers do they work best with? Josh Join me on klango at www.klango.net visit and sign my petition at: http://www.petitiononline.com/coda1234/petition.html and visit my blog at: http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net follow me on twitter at http://www.twitter.com/jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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good times. this was when everyone was jumping 10 feet in the air with excitement and all that. lol - Original Message - From: Josh jkenn...@gmail.com To: gamers list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:03 PM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games again hello, the following is a klango forum post about classic dos games. also if anyone knows if any night football for dos works in windows I'd like to have the full copy of that game, along with full copy of world series baseball for dos. And now, for even more good news! Listen to the following from Phil very carefully: Hi Trenton I finally broke down and purchased a new computer with Vista. I will be trying out my DOS games on it. Is there something you did to get Jim Kitchen's DOS games to work on your computer? Phil Yes folks, they work wonderflly on Vista! And now, my message to Phil himself: - Original Message - From: Trenton Matthews To: p...@pcsgames.net Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Kitchen's Inc Games For Dos Confirmed On Vista Platform! Hello Phil, If you can't upload any of the dos games that you have, can I at least donate something to you for the game snipe hunt or Panzars In North Africa? Jim's Dos version of bopit game has no problems with the Vista basic machine I have. So I just wanted to let ya know that they are working fine on my machine with no problems. I know you're probably annoyed by now about this, I just wanted to let ya know that I am not having any problems. All you'd have to do, is make a disclaimer on your dos games page that no support for these titles is available, and if something happens to their pc, its not your fault. Your dos games for the blind, are like what the atari was for the sighted gamer. They may not have been workable with every sound card on the market, but at least you provided different sound drivers for the game to at least have a way to produce its sounds, and I liked what you created! Windows may be the way of the future, however DOS still has its pride. You can still make your windows port of all the games you've ever made, but just like the sighted gamer, there isn't a sighted that could not be found online for free. And that's why I, and at least 5 other folks want the games back on the market! And here's proof to that claim: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/pcsdosgames One of the users on Klango has started a petition to get these games back. If you don't want to bring back your famous games for me, then do it for your fans of the audio gaming world, and I just don't mean for the audiogames.net web site! And yes, on the front page close to the top of the galaxy, it says A devision of PCS Games! The Gaming Galaxy was made in your honor, and the only way its going away, is if your web site does. I just wanted you to know that. Take care, and happy gaming! Sincerely, Trenton I think we wrapped this up no didn't we! *grin* 2008-11-10 02:48:48 Join me on klango at www.klango.net visit and sign my petition at: http://www.petitiononline.com/coda1234/petition.html and visit my blog at: http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net follow me on twitter at http://www.twitter.com/jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games again
Hi Josh, I know there are a few people who can still play the old PCS DOS games but giving all my DOS games away for free would not be a good business move as I plan to make windows versions of many of them. Also despite putting a notice that I would not support them, I am sure to get hundreds of messages complaining that the games don't work on their computers. If another game developer is willing to collaborate and help me produce windows versions of my old games I would welcome any contact. - Original Message - From: Josh jkenn...@gmail.com To: gamers list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games again hello, the following is a klango forum post about classic dos games. also if anyone knows if any night football for dos works in windows I'd like to have the full copy of that game, along with full copy of world series baseball for dos. And now, for even more good news! Listen to the following from Phil very carefully: Hi Trenton I finally broke down and purchased a new computer with Vista. I will be trying out my DOS games on it. Is there something you did to get Jim Kitchen's DOS games to work on your computer? Phil Yes folks, they work wonderflly on Vista! And now, my message to Phil himself: - Original Message - From: Trenton Matthews To: p...@pcsgames.net Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Kitchen's Inc Games For Dos Confirmed On Vista Platform! Hello Phil, If you can't upload any of the dos games that you have, can I at least donate something to you for the game snipe hunt or Panzars In North Africa? Jim's Dos version of bopit game has no problems with the Vista basic machine I have. So I just wanted to let ya know that they are working fine on my machine with no problems. I know you're probably annoyed by now about this, I just wanted to let ya know that I am not having any problems. All you'd have to do, is make a disclaimer on your dos games page that no support for these titles is available, and if something happens to their pc, its not your fault. Your dos games for the blind, are like what the atari was for the sighted gamer. They may not have been workable with every sound card on the market, but at least you provided different sound drivers for the game to at least have a way to produce its sounds, and I liked what you created! Windows may be the way of the future, however DOS still has its pride. You can still make your windows port of all the games you've ever made, but just like the sighted gamer, there isn't a sighted that could not be found online for free. And that's why I, and at least 5 other folks want the games back on the market! And here's proof to that claim: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/pcsdosgames One of the users on Klango has started a petition to get these games back. If you don't want to bring back your famous games for me, then do it for your fans of the audio gaming world, and I just don't mean for the audiogames.net web site! And yes, on the front page close to the top of the galaxy, it says A devision of PCS Games! The Gaming Galaxy was made in your honor, and the only way its going away, is if your web site does. I just wanted you to know that. Take care, and happy gaming! Sincerely, Trenton I think we wrapped this up no didn't we! *grin* 2008-11-10 02:48:48 Join me on klango at www.klango.net visit and sign my petition at: http://www.petitiononline.com/coda1234/petition.html and visit my blog at: http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net follow me on twitter at http://www.twitter.com/jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.41/2277 - Release Date: 08/02/09 05:56:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] dos games again
Heck! Why give games away that you plan to modify in the future, cutting off future income? (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games again Hi Josh, I know there are a few people who can still play the old PCS DOS games but giving all my DOS games away for free would not be a good business move as I plan to make windows versions of many of them. Also despite putting a notice that I would not support them, I am sure to get hundreds of messages complaining that the games don't work on their computers. If another game developer is willing to collaborate and help me produce windows versions of my old games I would welcome any contact. - Original Message - From: Josh jkenn...@gmail.com To: gamers list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games again hello, the following is a klango forum post about classic dos games. also if anyone knows if any night football for dos works in windows I'd like to have the full copy of that game, along with full copy of world series baseball for dos. And now, for even more good news! Listen to the following from Phil very carefully: Hi Trenton I finally broke down and purchased a new computer with Vista. I will be trying out my DOS games on it. Is there something you did to get Jim Kitchen's DOS games to work on your computer? Phil Yes folks, they work wonderflly on Vista! And now, my message to Phil himself: - Original Message - From: Trenton Matthews To: p...@pcsgames.net Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Kitchen's Inc Games For Dos Confirmed On Vista Platform! Hello Phil, If you can't upload any of the dos games that you have, can I at least donate something to you for the game snipe hunt or Panzars In North Africa? Jim's Dos version of bopit game has no problems with the Vista basic machine I have. So I just wanted to let ya know that they are working fine on my machine with no problems. I know you're probably annoyed by now about this, I just wanted to let ya know that I am not having any problems. All you'd have to do, is make a disclaimer on your dos games page that no support for these titles is available, and if something happens to their pc, its not your fault. Your dos games for the blind, are like what the atari was for the sighted gamer. They may not have been workable with every sound card on the market, but at least you provided different sound drivers for the game to at least have a way to produce its sounds, and I liked what you created! Windows may be the way of the future, however DOS still has its pride. You can still make your windows port of all the games you've ever made, but just like the sighted gamer, there isn't a sighted that could not be found online for free. And that's why I, and at least 5 other folks want the games back on the market! And here's proof to that claim: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/pcsdosgames One of the users on Klango has started a petition to get these games back. If you don't want to bring back your famous games for me, then do it for your fans of the audio gaming world, and I just don't mean for the audiogames.net web site! And yes, on the front page close to the top of the galaxy, it says A devision of PCS Games! The Gaming Galaxy was made in your honor, and the only way its going away, is if your web site does. I just wanted you to know that. Take care, and happy gaming! Sincerely, Trenton I think we wrapped this up no didn't we! *grin* 2008-11-10 02:48:48 Join me on klango at www.klango.net visit and sign my petition at: http://www.petitiononline.com/coda1234/petition.html and visit my blog at: http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net follow me on twitter at http://www.twitter.com/jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.41/2277 - Release Date: 08/02/09 05:56:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can
Re: [Audyssey] dos games again
charles,see,it's not giving away,he can just put a price on all the collection,receive a bit of money for what he did, and in the future continue with new projects, with totaly new different games instead of losing more time doing these ones that are already finished. well thats just my opinion -Mensagem original- De: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Domingo, 2 de Agosto de 2009 18:28 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] dos games again Hi Josh, I know there are a few people who can still play the old PCS DOS games but giving all my DOS games away for free would not be a good business move as I plan to make windows versions of many of them. Also despite putting a notice that I would not support them, I am sure to get hundreds of messages complaining that the games don't work on their computers. If another game developer is willing to collaborate and help me produce windows versions of my old games I would welcome any contact. - Original Message - From: Josh jkenn...@gmail.com To: gamers list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games again hello, the following is a klango forum post about classic dos games. also if anyone knows if any night football for dos works in windows I'd like to have the full copy of that game, along with full copy of world series baseball for dos. And now, for even more good news! Listen to the following from Phil very carefully: Hi Trenton I finally broke down and purchased a new computer with Vista. I will be trying out my DOS games on it. Is there something you did to get Jim Kitchen's DOS games to work on your computer? Phil Yes folks, they work wonderflly on Vista! And now, my message to Phil himself: - Original Message - From: Trenton Matthews To: p...@pcsgames.net Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Kitchen's Inc Games For Dos Confirmed On Vista Platform! Hello Phil, If you can't upload any of the dos games that you have, can I at least donate something to you for the game snipe hunt or Panzars In North Africa? Jim's Dos version of bopit game has no problems with the Vista basic machine I have. So I just wanted to let ya know that they are working fine on my machine with no problems. I know you're probably annoyed by now about this, I just wanted to let ya know that I am not having any problems. All you'd have to do, is make a disclaimer on your dos games page that no support for these titles is available, and if something happens to their pc, its not your fault. Your dos games for the blind, are like what the atari was for the sighted gamer. They may not have been workable with every sound card on the market, but at least you provided different sound drivers for the game to at least have a way to produce its sounds, and I liked what you created! Windows may be the way of the future, however DOS still has its pride. You can still make your windows port of all the games you've ever made, but just like the sighted gamer, there isn't a sighted that could not be found online for free. And that's why I, and at least 5 other folks want the games back on the market! And here's proof to that claim: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/pcsdosgames One of the users on Klango has started a petition to get these games back. If you don't want to bring back your famous games for me, then do it for your fans of the audio gaming world, and I just don't mean for the audiogames.net web site! And yes, on the front page close to the top of the galaxy, it says A devision of PCS Games! The Gaming Galaxy was made in your honor, and the only way its going away, is if your web site does. I just wanted you to know that. Take care, and happy gaming! Sincerely, Trenton I think we wrapped this up no didn't we! *grin* 2008-11-10 02:48:48 Join me on klango at www.klango.net visit and sign my petition at: http://www.petitiononline.com/coda1234/petition.html and visit my blog at: http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net follow me on twitter at http://www.twitter.com/jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.41/2277 - Release Date: 08/02/09 05:56:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr
Re: [Audyssey] dos games again
What Phil does with his creations and or collaborations is up to him. Getting DOS games to work on Windows platforms might not be as easy as you think. It may take a lot of time and effort, so I find no problem if he wants to do that work in his own time, as much time as he wants to take doing that work, and charging what he feels is a fair price for the redone games. If people don't want to pay for them, or if people want games he is not willing to work on right now, but plans to work on in the future, so be it. Just as Jim Kitchen has gotten several requests to make his game online multiplayer games, and he has decided not to do so, we should accept the decision of the game creator. Make sense?? --- Shepherds are the best beasts. - Original Message - From: Matheus an...@bol.com.br To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] dos games again but look,to make windows versions of these games it will take monts, and it's really simple, make a file explaining the steps that the user have to do to be able to run the games,and explain that since it was a collection of old games, you aren't going to give support / answer to questions related to the games, and that if it doesn't works, to the user simple don't play it. and still, if you are going to make windows versions of these games it will take more time from you, that's even worse bekause you will do something again that's already finished. a lot of peoples want these games, they sayd here, on the klango forums, even created a petition. -Mensagem original- De: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Domingo, 2 de Agosto de 2009 18:28 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] dos games again Hi Josh, I know there are a few people who can still play the old PCS DOS games but giving all my DOS games away for free would not be a good business move as I plan to make windows versions of many of them. Also despite putting a notice that I would not support them, I am sure to get hundreds of messages complaining that the games don't work on their computers. If another game developer is willing to collaborate and help me produce windows versions of my old games I would welcome any contact. - Original Message - From: Josh jkenn...@gmail.com To: gamers list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: [Audyssey] dos games again hello, the following is a klango forum post about classic dos games. also if anyone knows if any night football for dos works in windows I'd like to have the full copy of that game, along with full copy of world series baseball for dos. And now, for even more good news! Listen to the following from Phil very carefully: Hi Trenton I finally broke down and purchased a new computer with Vista. I will be trying out my DOS games on it. Is there something you did to get Jim Kitchen's DOS games to work on your computer? Phil Yes folks, they work wonderflly on Vista! And now, my message to Phil himself: - Original Message - From: Trenton Matthews To: p...@pcsgames.net Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: Kitchen's Inc Games For Dos Confirmed On Vista Platform! Hello Phil, If you can't upload any of the dos games that you have, can I at least donate something to you for the game snipe hunt or Panzars In North Africa? Jim's Dos version of bopit game has no problems with the Vista basic machine I have. So I just wanted to let ya know that they are working fine on my machine with no problems. I know you're probably annoyed by now about this, I just wanted to let ya know that I am not having any problems. All you'd have to do, is make a disclaimer on your dos games page that no support for these titles is available, and if something happens to their pc, its not your fault. Your dos games for the blind, are like what the atari was for the sighted gamer. They may not have been workable with every sound card on the market, but at least you provided different sound drivers for the game to at least have a way to produce its sounds, and I liked what you created! Windows may be the way of the future, however DOS still has its pride. You can still make your windows port of all the games you've ever made, but just like the sighted gamer, there isn't a sighted that could not be found online for free. And that's why I, and at least 5 other folks want the games back on the market! And here's proof to that claim: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/pcsdosgames One of the users on Klango has started a petition to get these games back. If you don't want to bring back your famous games for me, then do it for your fans of the audio gaming world, and I just don't mean for the audiogames.net web site! And yes, on the front page close to the top of the galaxy, it says A devision of PCS Games! The Gaming Galaxy was made in your honor, and the only way its going away, is if your web site does
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games was RS Games
Hi, The problem with the Keynote SA is the firmware drivers that came with the unit. The way Windows 2000/XP/Vista communicates with hardware devices is completely different from the way Windows 95/98 did it. Windows 95/98 gave a driver programmer unrestricted access to hardware devices which was really bad news if you had a lot of devices installed on a system. With 2000 and beyond devices must go through the Windows hardware access layer, HAL, which allows Windows to manage the access levels to any given device and cut down on hardware conflicts. If you installed the drivers that came with the SA that is why XP blew up. The Windows 9x era drivers are totally uncompatible with XP and its hardware access layer. That is one reason most older hardware synthesizers won't work under XP. The second is com ports and ISA bus slots are no longer available on most newer PCs. Anyway, we are really getting off topic here. Let us try and begin getting things back to gaming. Smile. shaun everiss wrote: aah. I remember trying a sa on xp just for laughs, this worked. I did the same with a dectalk, but was not successfull so much, at least in hal I was not jaws was ok, in hal the synth behaved weirdly, causing a nice crash within the system, on reboot I got hardware error and had to reformat to get windows to work, I tried and got the same error 6 times and reformatted 6 times. I never found out what happened but I suspect that I must have tried to directly acess a port that windows used or had vertual access on or something. though why it wiped windows to that state I have no clue. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games was RS Games
Hi Shaun, It was. Like I said earlier I purchased the Keynote Gold Multimedia software back in the Windows 95/98 days before Eloquence became a part of Jaws, Window Eyes, etc. After Eloquence became a standard part of screen readers like Jaws I never heard anything about Keynote Gold any more. That was probably when Pulsedata/Humanware dropped it. At any rate I used Keynote Gold successfully on 95, 98, and ME with no problems. To be honest I never tried it on 2000, XP, and Vista because I always had Eloquence and Dectalk Access to use. Not to mention I don't often need foreign language support these days. Though, if I could find my floppy for Keynote it would be interesting to try it on a machine. BTW, Dos had nothing to do with Keynote Gold. In fact the only time you needed to use Dos for Keynote was if you wanted to use the evmove commandline tool to move your Everlock key back to the disk. On Windows ME you could use winmove to move the keys back and forth.. shaun everiss wrote: its the keynote gold synth on sound card. On that note tom, I suspect that stuff was released for win95 before all these new synths like realspeak came out. I never heard someone running it in anything higher than 95, no reason it shouldn't run on 95 98 and with the dos hack loaded win me. However it is not a nt bassed thing at least I think so. In fact a load of stuff was released in 95 to cope with the new multimedia things while people were transfering, things like y2k fix, orf mix32, etc. ANd most of these are not needed. At any rate with event of digital soundcards you have seperate input and output streams so it probably wouldn't work so well anyway. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi cory, No, I hadn't. I don't typically keep up on the latest jaws news because I am first and foremost a Window eyes user. Most of the time I use the Dectalk Access that ships with Window Eyes as my default synth not Eloquence. In fact, about the only time i use Jaws 9 these days is for the Java based applications I write or use that requires the Java access bridge. Jaws 9 is the only Windows based screen reader solution that works extremely well with Java based programs. In this regard most Windows screen readers are behind Mac OS VoiceOver and the Linux Orca screen readers. Cory wrote: yeh, did you hear elequents may be out and scansoft maybe difault? No good! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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agree on that one! wineyes rocks! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 4:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games was RS Games Hi cory, No, I hadn't. I don't typically keep up on the latest jaws news because I am first and foremost a Window eyes user. Most of the time I use the Dectalk Access that ships with Window Eyes as my default synth not Eloquence. In fact, about the only time i use Jaws 9 these days is for the Java based applications I write or use that requires the Java access bridge. Jaws 9 is the only Windows based screen reader solution that works extremely well with Java based programs. In this regard most Windows screen readers are behind Mac OS VoiceOver and the Linux Orca screen readers. Cory wrote: yeh, did you hear elequents may be out and scansoft maybe difault? No good! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 3190 (20080616) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games was RS Games
aah. I remember trying a sa on xp just for laughs, this worked. I did the same with a dectalk, but was not successfull so much, at least in hal I was not jaws was ok, in hal the synth behaved weirdly, causing a nice crash within the system, on reboot I got hardware error and had to reformat to get windows to work, I tried and got the same error 6 times and reformatted 6 times. I never found out what happened but I suspect that I must have tried to directly acess a port that windows used or had vertual access on or something. though why it wiped windows to that state I have no clue. At 10:59 p.m. 16/06/2008, you wrote: Hi Shaun, It was. Like I said earlier I purchased the Keynote Gold Multimedia software back in the Windows 95/98 days before Eloquence became a part of Jaws, Window Eyes, etc. After Eloquence became a standard part of screen readers like Jaws I never heard anything about Keynote Gold any more. That was probably when Pulsedata/Humanware dropped it. At any rate I used Keynote Gold successfully on 95, 98, and ME with no problems. To be honest I never tried it on 2000, XP, and Vista because I always had Eloquence and Dectalk Access to use. Not to mention I don't often need foreign language support these days. Though, if I could find my floppy for Keynote it would be interesting to try it on a machine. BTW, Dos had nothing to do with Keynote Gold. In fact the only time you needed to use Dos for Keynote was if you wanted to use the evmove commandline tool to move your Everlock key back to the disk. On Windows ME you could use winmove to move the keys back and forth.. shaun everiss wrote: its the keynote gold synth on sound card. On that note tom, I suspect that stuff was released for win95 before all these new synths like realspeak came out. I never heard someone running it in anything higher than 95, no reason it shouldn't run on 95 98 and with the dos hack loaded win me. However it is not a nt bassed thing at least I think so. In fact a load of stuff was released in 95 to cope with the new multimedia things while people were transfering, things like y2k fix, orf mix32, etc. ANd most of these are not needed. At any rate with event of digital soundcards you have seperate input and output streams so it probably wouldn't work so well anyway. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Shaun, Yeah, I know what you mean about not being able to run some of the older Dos games. After my parents got our first IBM compatible system, an IBM I386, I got several Dos games. A lot of those games won't run on anything higher than a I486 running Windows 95. I actually held onto an I486 with Windows 95 for several years running a Dectalk PC and Jaws just for gaming purposes. Though, when my wife and I moved last year I had to scrap most of my older computers. Some of my games like Duke Nukem II, Over Kill, etc work pretty well using the Dos emulator for Linux. However, I have my share of Dos games that won't run on anything but on an I386 system with true Dos. I have this one game, Wheel of Fortune for Dos, that goes totally nuts on a Pentium IV system. When you run wheel.exe the PC speaker begins playing the Wheel of Fortune music at super fast speed, like 1000 times faster than it should, and it sounds totally hilarious. As soon as the music stops the computer solves all the puzzles, like in under a second, and you get the game over screen. It is extremely funny. I have some pinball games for Dos that do similar weird things. You hit the spacebar to launch the ball and it bounces around the screen hitting bumpers like a laser beam, and then you lose the ball in less than a second. it moves the ball so fast a sighted player can't really see it on the screen before it passes the flippers and gets lost. Again it is sort of funny in a weird sort of way. One of my favorite games for Dos was 688. In that game you played the part of a U.S. 688 submarine commander. While on a training mission you end up getting into a shooting war with a Soviet Alpha-Class attack submarine. I guess it was the forerunner for Silent Steel which came out a couple years later for Windows 95. As for the keynote SA that was a really cool multilingual synth. In college I really wanted one of those. I knew someone who did, and I liked it as it handled French and German extremely well. Synths like Eloquence though made such external synths like the Keynote SA units unnecessary. Hmmm... I wonder if they still have the keynote Multimedia Software around. shaun everiss wrote: yeah mine was an 386sx, running toshiba dos 5.0, I got it in 1993. I didn't discover games till 1996 and then the system survived till 2003 when it finally died. I have never been able to emulate all the old style games nicely. One of the major drawbacks is that I can't get the back of my sa synth to change the batteries. And another to have the keynote software work I need a 386 thats either a straight 86 or an sx running msdos 5 or 6. I tried to get a laptop that was like this but never did. saying that if ever anyone on here does have one in working condition they don't want I may be interested. or even another old system that still has a few years good life in it. Idealy I'd like several that I can just change parts out of. I doubt that will happen but I'd still like to run all the old stuff again Now if I could get something to run with a screenreader in dos using the soundcard and switch to my notepad file with hints should I like to then yeah I'd probably do it. another thing is though I have no real desk space now, so who knows. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi what is keynote multimedia? On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:43:39 -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, Yeah, I know what you mean about not being able to run some of the older Dos games. After my parents got our first IBM compatible system, an IBM I386, I got several Dos games. A lot of those games won't run on anything higher than a I486 running Windows 95. I actually held onto an I486 with Windows 95 for several years running a Dectalk PC and Jaws just for gaming purposes. Though, when my wife and I moved last year I had to scrap most of my older computers. Some of my games like Duke Nukem II, Over Kill, etc work pretty well using the Dos emulator for Linux. However, I have my share of Dos games that won't run on anything but on an I386 system with true Dos. I have this one game, Wheel of Fortune for Dos, that goes totally nuts on a Pentium IV system. When you run wheel.exe the PC speaker begins playing the Wheel of Fortune music at super fast speed, like 1000 times faster than it should, and it sounds totally hilarious. As soon as the music stops the computer solves all the puzzles, like in under a second, and you get the game over screen. It is extremely funny. I have some pinball games for Dos that do similar weird things. You hit the spacebar to launch the ball and it bounces around the screen hitting bumpers like a laser beam, and then you lose the ball in less than a second. it moves the ball so fast a sighted player can't really see it on the screen before it passes the flippers and gets lost. Again it is sort of funny in a weird sort of way. One of my favorite games for Dos was 688. In that game you played the part of a U.S. 688 submarine commander. While on a training mission you end up getting into a shooting war with a Soviet Alpha-Class attack submarine. I guess it was the forerunner for Silent Steel which came out a couple years later for Windows 95. As for the keynote SA that was a really cool multilingual synth. In college I really wanted one of those. I knew someone who did, and I liked it as it handled French and German extremely well. Synths like Eloquence though made such external synths like the Keynote SA units unnecessary. Hmmm... I wonder if they still have the keynote Multimedia Software around. shaun everiss wrote: yeah mine was an 386sx, running toshiba dos 5.0, I got it in 1993. I didn't discover games till 1996 and then the system survived till 2003 when it finally died. I have never been able to emulate all the old style games nicely. One of the major drawbacks is that I can't get the back of my sa synth to change the batteries. And another to have the keynote software work I need a 386 thats either a straight 86 or an sx running msdos 5 or 6. I tried to get a laptop that was like this but never did. saying that if ever anyone on here does have one in working condition they don't want I may be interested. or even another old system that still has a few years good life in it. Idealy I'd like several that I can just change parts out of. I doubt that will happen but I'd still like to run all the old stuff again Now if I could get something to run with a screenreader in dos using the soundcard and switch to my notepad file with hints should I like to then yeah I'd probably do it. another thing is though I have no real desk space now, so who knows. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Andy, Several years ago during the Windows 95 and 98 era Humanware and Pulse Data created their own text to speech engine called Keynote Gold Multimedia. It sounded like a Keynote SA, had the same built in multilingual abilities, and I used it at Wright State for doing my foreign language courses. Keep in mind this was back in the days when you had to buy Eloquence, Dectalk Access, etc as an additional add on to Jaws and Window eyes. In the Jaws 2.0 and 3.0 days Jaws didn't come with any text to speech engines. You had to get a synth as an additional purchase. Well, when I was at WSU my parents got me a laptop, but carrying around a Dectalk Express, Keynote SA, etc was totally impractical. Not to mention a very expensive investement. Since I had to take some multilingual courses as part of my degree I wanted a software TTS system that could do multilingual speech. Eloquence was like $300 which was out of my price range. Plus they charged extra for every additional foreign language you wanted. Humanware sold Keynote Gold for something like $250 with all foreign languages so I purchased the cheaper TTS engine. Surprisingly I really liked it. As you might guess after Windows 98 came out Henter-Joice released Jaws 3.2. As a added bonus for upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2 Henter-Joice tossed in Eloquence with all foreign languages for free. How nice of them to do that after it was no longer necessary for me. Since then they have continued tossing in Eloquence as a free add on, and since Jaws 8 they toss in the Scansoft voices for free as well. Now, the rest is history. Andy wrote: Hi what is keynote multimedia? On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:43:39 -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, Yeah, I know what you mean about not being able to run some of the older Dos games. After my parents got our first IBM compatible system, an IBM I386, I got several Dos games. A lot of those games won't run on anything higher than a I486 running Windows 95. I actually held onto an I486 with Windows 95 for several years running a Dectalk PC and Jaws just for gaming purposes. Though, when my wife and I moved last year I had to scrap most of my older computers. Some of my games like Duke Nukem II, Over Kill, etc work pretty well using the Dos emulator for Linux. However, I have my share of Dos games that won't run on anything but on an I386 system with true Dos. I have this one game, Wheel of Fortune for Dos, that goes totally nuts on a Pentium IV system. When you run wheel.exe the PC speaker begins playing the Wheel of Fortune music at super fast speed, like 1000 times faster than it should, and it sounds totally hilarious. As soon as the music stops the computer solves all the puzzles, like in under a second, and you get the game over screen. It is extremely funny. I have some pinball games for Dos that do similar weird things. You hit the spacebar to launch the ball and it bounces around the screen hitting bumpers like a laser beam, and then you lose the ball in less than a second. it moves the ball so fast a sighted player can't really see it on the screen before it passes the flippers and gets lost. Again it is sort of funny in a weird sort of way. One of my favorite games for Dos was 688. In that game you played the part of a U.S. 688 submarine commander. While on a training mission you end up getting into a shooting war with a Soviet Alpha-Class attack submarine. I guess it was the forerunner for Silent Steel which came out a couple years later for Windows 95. As for the keynote SA that was a really cool multilingual synth. In college I really wanted one of those. I knew someone who did, and I liked it as it handled French and German extremely well. Synths like Eloquence though made such external synths like the Keynote SA units unnecessary. Hmmm... I wonder if they still have the keynote Multimedia Software around. shaun everiss wrote: yeah mine was an 386sx, running toshiba dos 5.0, I got it in 1993. I didn't discover games till 1996 and then the system survived till 2003 when it finally died. I have never been able to emulate all the old style games nicely. One of the major drawbacks is that I can't get the back of my sa synth to change the batteries. And another to have the keynote software work I need a 386 thats either a straight 86 or an sx running msdos 5 or 6. I tried to get a laptop that was like this but never did. saying that if ever anyone on here does have one in working condition they don't want I may be interested. or even another old system that still has a few years good life in it. Idealy I'd like several that I can just change parts out of. I doubt that will happen but I'd still like to run all the old stuff again Now if I could get something to run with a screenreader in dos using the soundcard and switch to my notepad file with hints should I like to then yeah I'd probably do it. another
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who knows tom. shortly after keysoft 2.4e pulsedata merged with humanware and then it was all pocket pcs. I have heared the last actual keynote was the toshiba 2100 or something like that. or was it 4400 I don't know. from doodling with drivers on mt1 and mt2 disks the stuff supports the toshiba 2400and 4400 and 2100 but thats the highest its ever got. I still like the keynote gold internal. And i suppose if I was able I'd still like one in this laptop or better still get an older laptop something like a 1910, at least then I'd have things. My games all run in windows, its just I like the way dos displays things. And if keynote software was not so picky. I tried till last year finally purchacing a luggable. on ebay. The reason I never persued it further was mainly the sa batteries being dead and no way to remove them, the fact I couldn't find any more laptops, and the fact the machine although it had better specs than the gold18 was to big and had a bung \ key. granted I could get buy in dos with a selection of batch files but in keysoft which is what I use to search for some things it just wouldn't work. At one point I was going to run everything from my windows system and switch back to the other unit. However with all the extra hardware, dved, stereo, mouse and when it gets back from repair, external hard drive, network hub and usb ports there really is not much room on here anymore. This was also partually my fault as I was given the opertunatey to move to a bigger place still in the same house. Stupidly I didn't and now regret it. Saying that it would probably cost more as I'd have to go wireless, it was near impossible to get the network cables in this current location and now the other one is at the other end of the house and down stairs. At 02:43 a.m. 16/06/2008, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Yeah, I know what you mean about not being able to run some of the older Dos games. After my parents got our first IBM compatible system, an IBM I386, I got several Dos games. A lot of those games won't run on anything higher than a I486 running Windows 95. I actually held onto an I486 with Windows 95 for several years running a Dectalk PC and Jaws just for gaming purposes. Though, when my wife and I moved last year I had to scrap most of my older computers. Some of my games like Duke Nukem II, Over Kill, etc work pretty well using the Dos emulator for Linux. However, I have my share of Dos games that won't run on anything but on an I386 system with true Dos. I have this one game, Wheel of Fortune for Dos, that goes totally nuts on a Pentium IV system. When you run wheel.exe the PC speaker begins playing the Wheel of Fortune music at super fast speed, like 1000 times faster than it should, and it sounds totally hilarious. As soon as the music stops the computer solves all the puzzles, like in under a second, and you get the game over screen. It is extremely funny. I have some pinball games for Dos that do similar weird things. You hit the spacebar to launch the ball and it bounces around the screen hitting bumpers like a laser beam, and then you lose the ball in less than a second. it moves the ball so fast a sighted player can't really see it on the screen before it passes the flippers and gets lost. Again it is sort of funny in a weird sort of way. One of my favorite games for Dos was 688. In that game you played the part of a U.S. 688 submarine commander. While on a training mission you end up getting into a shooting war with a Soviet Alpha-Class attack submarine. I guess it was the forerunner for Silent Steel which came out a couple years later for Windows 95. As for the keynote SA that was a really cool multilingual synth. In college I really wanted one of those. I knew someone who did, and I liked it as it handled French and German extremely well. Synths like Eloquence though made such external synths like the Keynote SA units unnecessary. Hmmm... I wonder if they still have the keynote Multimedia Software around. shaun everiss wrote: yeah mine was an 386sx, running toshiba dos 5.0, I got it in 1993. I didn't discover games till 1996 and then the system survived till 2003 when it finally died. I have never been able to emulate all the old style games nicely. One of the major drawbacks is that I can't get the back of my sa synth to change the batteries. And another to have the keynote software work I need a 386 thats either a straight 86 or an sx running msdos 5 or 6. I tried to get a laptop that was like this but never did. saying that if ever anyone on here does have one in working condition they don't want I may be interested. or even another old system that still has a few years good life in it. Idealy I'd like several that I can just change parts out of. I doubt that will happen but I'd still like to run all the old stuff again Now if I could get something to run with a screenreader in dos using the soundcard and switch to my notepad file with
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its the keynote gold synth on sound card. On that note tom, I suspect that stuff was released for win95 before all these new synths like realspeak came out. I never heard someone running it in anything higher than 95, no reason it shouldn't run on 95 98 and with the dos hack loaded win me. However it is not a nt bassed thing at least I think so. In fact a load of stuff was released in 95 to cope with the new multimedia things while people were transfering, things like y2k fix, orf mix32, etc. ANd most of these are not needed. At any rate with event of digital soundcards you have seperate input and output streams so it probably wouldn't work so well anyway. At 03:19 a.m. 16/06/2008, you wrote: Hi what is keynote multimedia? On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:43:39 -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, Yeah, I know what you mean about not being able to run some of the older Dos games. After my parents got our first IBM compatible system, an IBM I386, I got several Dos games. A lot of those games won't run on anything higher than a I486 running Windows 95. I actually held onto an I486 with Windows 95 for several years running a Dectalk PC and Jaws just for gaming purposes. Though, when my wife and I moved last year I had to scrap most of my older computers. Some of my games like Duke Nukem II, Over Kill, etc work pretty well using the Dos emulator for Linux. However, I have my share of Dos games that won't run on anything but on an I386 system with true Dos. I have this one game, Wheel of Fortune for Dos, that goes totally nuts on a Pentium IV system. When you run wheel.exe the PC speaker begins playing the Wheel of Fortune music at super fast speed, like 1000 times faster than it should, and it sounds totally hilarious. As soon as the music stops the computer solves all the puzzles, like in under a second, and you get the game over screen. It is extremely funny. I have some pinball games for Dos that do similar weird things. You hit the spacebar to launch the ball and it bounces around the screen hitting bumpers like a laser beam, and then you lose the ball in less than a second. it moves the ball so fast a sighted player can't really see it on the screen before it passes the flippers and gets lost. Again it is sort of funny in a weird sort of way. One of my favorite games for Dos was 688. In that game you played the part of a U.S. 688 submarine commander. While on a training mission you end up getting into a shooting war with a Soviet Alpha-Class attack submarine. I guess it was the forerunner for Silent Steel which came out a couple years later for Windows 95. As for the keynote SA that was a really cool multilingual synth. In college I really wanted one of those. I knew someone who did, and I liked it as it handled French and German extremely well. Synths like Eloquence though made such external synths like the Keynote SA units unnecessary. Hmmm... I wonder if they still have the keynote Multimedia Software around. shaun everiss wrote: yeah mine was an 386sx, running toshiba dos 5.0, I got it in 1993. I didn't discover games till 1996 and then the system survived till 2003 when it finally died. I have never been able to emulate all the old style games nicely. One of the major drawbacks is that I can't get the back of my sa synth to change the batteries. And another to have the keynote software work I need a 386 thats either a straight 86 or an sx running msdos 5 or 6. I tried to get a laptop that was like this but never did. saying that if ever anyone on here does have one in working condition they don't want I may be interested. or even another old system that still has a few years good life in it. Idealy I'd like several that I can just change parts out of. I doubt that will happen but I'd still like to run all the old stuff again Now if I could get something to run with a screenreader in dos using the soundcard and switch to my notepad file with hints should I like to then yeah I'd probably do it. another thing is though I have no real desk space now, so who knows. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
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yeh, did you hear elequents may be out and scansoft maybe difault? No good! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Dos Games was RS Games Hi Andy, Several years ago during the Windows 95 and 98 era Humanware and Pulse Data created their own text to speech engine called Keynote Gold Multimedia. It sounded like a Keynote SA, had the same built in multilingual abilities, and I used it at Wright State for doing my foreign language courses. Keep in mind this was back in the days when you had to buy Eloquence, Dectalk Access, etc as an additional add on to Jaws and Window eyes. In the Jaws 2.0 and 3.0 days Jaws didn't come with any text to speech engines. You had to get a synth as an additional purchase. Well, when I was at WSU my parents got me a laptop, but carrying around a Dectalk Express, Keynote SA, etc was totally impractical. Not to mention a very expensive investement. Since I had to take some multilingual courses as part of my degree I wanted a software TTS system that could do multilingual speech. Eloquence was like $300 which was out of my price range. Plus they charged extra for every additional foreign language you wanted. Humanware sold Keynote Gold for something like $250 with all foreign languages so I purchased the cheaper TTS engine. Surprisingly I really liked it. As you might guess after Windows 98 came out Henter-Joice released Jaws 3.2. As a added bonus for upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2 Henter-Joice tossed in Eloquence with all foreign languages for free. How nice of them to do that after it was no longer necessary for me. Since then they have continued tossing in Eloquence as a free add on, and since Jaws 8 they toss in the Scansoft voices for free as well. Now, the rest is history. Andy wrote: Hi what is keynote multimedia? On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:43:39 -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, Yeah, I know what you mean about not being able to run some of the older Dos games. After my parents got our first IBM compatible system, an IBM I386, I got several Dos games. A lot of those games won't run on anything higher than a I486 running Windows 95. I actually held onto an I486 with Windows 95 for several years running a Dectalk PC and Jaws just for gaming purposes. Though, when my wife and I moved last year I had to scrap most of my older computers. Some of my games like Duke Nukem II, Over Kill, etc work pretty well using the Dos emulator for Linux. However, I have my share of Dos games that won't run on anything but on an I386 system with true Dos. I have this one game, Wheel of Fortune for Dos, that goes totally nuts on a Pentium IV system. When you run wheel.exe the PC speaker begins playing the Wheel of Fortune music at super fast speed, like 1000 times faster than it should, and it sounds totally hilarious. As soon as the music stops the computer solves all the puzzles, like in under a second, and you get the game over screen. It is extremely funny. I have some pinball games for Dos that do similar weird things. You hit the spacebar to launch the ball and it bounces around the screen hitting bumpers like a laser beam, and then you lose the ball in less than a second. it moves the ball so fast a sighted player can't really see it on the screen before it passes the flippers and gets lost. Again it is sort of funny in a weird sort of way. One of my favorite games for Dos was 688. In that game you played the part of a U.S. 688 submarine commander. While on a training mission you end up getting into a shooting war with a Soviet Alpha-Class attack submarine. I guess it was the forerunner for Silent Steel which came out a couple years later for Windows 95. As for the keynote SA that was a really cool multilingual synth. In college I really wanted one of those. I knew someone who did, and I liked it as it handled French and German extremely well. Synths like Eloquence though made such external synths like the Keynote SA units unnecessary. Hmmm... I wonder if they still have the keynote Multimedia Software around. shaun everiss wrote: yeah mine was an 386sx, running toshiba dos 5.0, I got it in 1993. I didn't discover games till 1996 and then the system survived till 2003 when it finally died. I have never been able to emulate all the old style games nicely. One of the major drawbacks is that I can't get the back of my sa synth to change the batteries. And another to have the keynote software work I need a 386 thats either a straight 86 or an sx running msdos 5 or 6. I tried to get a laptop that was like this but never did. saying that if ever anyone on here does have one in working condition they don't want I may be interested. or even another old system that still has a few years good life in it. Idealy I'd like several that I can just change
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Hi I am looking for Phil Vlasac. I have a whole bunch of dos games I believe I got from him through Ann Morris enterprises. I have some questions about the games. I am also interested in getting some more games from him. My e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks allot. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Contact phil at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jennifer Thompson Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:29 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] dos games Hi I am looking for Phil Vlasac. I have a whole bunch of dos games I believe I got from him through Ann Morris enterprises. I have some questions about the games. I am also interested in getting some more games from him. My e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks allot. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos games
In jaws version the option to read a dos window are there but commented out. You would have to go into the default.jcf file, and look for dos prompt. Then take out the */ and /* at the end of comment. Then it will read like versions out now. At 12:51 PM 8/16/2006, you wrote: The difference is that JFW 4, I think you have to route the cursors to read the window, and sometimes their'd for some reason be pauses before jaws reads the line. With 6, jaws automatically reads the dos box. By the way, I'm sorry for the delay, I'll set up the league tomorrow, it's just that I've been bombed with a surprised test! Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos games
Hi, agreed. I don't see what the difference is between Jaws 4 and 7. They both support the command prompt and apps ok. Charles Rivard wrote: So? What's different? I use JAWS 7.1 with no problem during DOS games on my XP machine. - Original Message - From: Sky Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:16 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Dos games Hello Phil. I tried your cops game on my xp computer and snipe hunt game back in 2004, and I could run them fine on my xp computer. the downside to that was that I was running jfw 4 and I am now up to 7 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos games
The difference is that JFW 4, I think you have to route the cursors to read the window, and sometimes their'd for some reason be pauses before jaws reads the line. With 6, jaws automatically reads the dos box. By the way, I'm sorry for the delay, I'll set up the league tomorrow, it's just that I've been bombed with a surprised test! Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Dos games
So? What's different? I use JAWS 7.1 with no problem during DOS games on my XP machine. - Original Message - From: Sky Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:16 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Dos games Hello Phil. I tried your cops game on my xp computer and snipe hunt game back in 2004, and I could run them fine on my xp computer. the downside to that was that I was running jfw 4 and I am now up to 7 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Dos games
Hello Phil. I tried your cops game on my xp computer and snipe hunt game back in 2004, and I could run them fine on my xp computer. the downside to that was that I was running jfw 4 and I am now up to 7 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
