Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
well its interesting you should say that. I wander what will happen in say another 30-60 years or so when all those that knew are dead and the shuttle is another video film. we will be asking the same question. At 01:29 p.m. 8/05/2011, you wrote: Uh, Houston? We have a problem up here! I don't remember them saying that, but I do remember the coverage. Oddly enough, I was visiting a friend who had a young son who was really interested in space movies. I took a copy of Apollo 13 with descriptive narration to show them what those movies are like. During the movie, we were talking about what was going on in our country at the time of Apollo 13, remembering the music and stuff. The kid suddenly said, Wow! You guys are talking as if this really happened. I said, It did! It's not just a movie. It is based on fact. Apollo 13 actually happened. It blew him away, and it blew me away that he didn't know that. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Apollo - Re: Space sims? Or one based on the Apollo 13 mission. So the idea would be to try to manage your extremely limited resources in such a way as to be able to return home safely. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:02 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Apollo - Re: Space sims? An Apollo mission simulation would really be awesome, especially if it had realistic sound effects with the right timing. I would like to have a set of such games that take you from training to returning from the moon, including lunar exploration when both walking and operation of a LEM. And, of course, part of it would be leaving the Apollo spacecraft in the lunar lander and returning to and docking with it. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Space sims? Hi Ron, Oh, I could probably do it as well, at least a fair shuttle simulator, but like Munawar I've got so much going on now I don't have the time. Something else I'd love to see in accessible format is an Apaulo simulator. Not only taking off, but flying the Apaulo to the moon and back. That would rock. On 5/7/11, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Thank you Tom for making me eat my statement. SMILES. So far the only people that I know who might be able to do it for us would be Munawar with his people atBPC Programs. But I know he has his hands full with school and other responsibilities. But with his business and normal home responsibilities. After my vet gets payed on Monday, I'll be placing a order for a new wireless headset for both the ears and for those games that have communication features. I'm getting tangled up in all of the cables. Both for the USB headset that I have and with the new f510. Will let everyone know how it works out when it gets here for those looking for a way to untangle themselves some what from all of those cables as well. Ron who said why can't we drive and fly? SMILES. Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
well on that note I guess a game could be done on a what if case, there was reported on an apolo mission that a ufo or something was scene outside. Nothing happened but what if it did. What if it was hostile, or what if well there are loads of game posabilities here. At 02:01 p.m. 8/05/2011, you wrote: Actually the we have a problem line was real, though admittedly Ron Howard did change it a little. What Lovell actually said was Houston, we've had a problem. ROn Howard of course changed it to We have a problem since the use of Had would seem to indicate that though there was a problem onboard ship it had already been taken care of, when in fact the trouble was only just beginning. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims? Uh, Houston? We have a problem up here! I don't remember them saying that, but I do remember the coverage. Oddly enough, I was visiting a friend who had a young son who was really interested in space movies. I took a copy of Apollo 13 with descriptive narration to show them what those movies are like. During the movie, we were talking about what was going on in our country at the time of Apollo 13, remembering the music and stuff. The kid suddenly said, Wow! You guys are talking as if this really happened. I said, It did! It's not just a movie. It is based on fact. Apollo 13 actually happened. It blew him away, and it blew me away that he didn't know that. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Apollo - Re: Space sims? Or one based on the Apollo 13 mission. So the idea would be to try to manage your extremely limited resources in such a way as to be able to return home safely. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:02 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Apollo - Re: Space sims? An Apollo mission simulation would really be awesome, especially if it had realistic sound effects with the right timing. I would like to have a set of such games that take you from training to returning from the moon, including lunar exploration when both walking and operation of a LEM. And, of course, part of it would be leaving the Apollo spacecraft in the lunar lander and returning to and docking with it. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Space sims? Hi Ron, Oh, I could probably do it as well, at least a fair shuttle simulator, but like Munawar I've got so much going on now I don't have the time. Something else I'd love to see in accessible format is an Apaulo simulator. Not only taking off, but flying the Apaulo to the moon and back. That would rock. On 5/7/11, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Thank you Tom for making me eat my statement. SMILES. So far the only people that I know who might be able to do it for us would be Munawar with his people atBPC Programs. But I know he has his hands full with school and other responsibilities. But with his business and normal home responsibilities. After my vet gets payed on Monday, I'll be placing a order for a new wireless headset for both the ears and for those games that have communication features. I'm getting tangled up in all of the cables. Both for the USB headset that I have and with the new f510. Will let everyone know how it works out when it gets here for those looking for a way to untangle themselves some what from all of those cables as well. Ron who said why can't we drive and fly? SMILES. Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
HI Charles, Well, I'm not really that surprised. Besides the fact this kid was young, hadn't had history yet, etc I've generally found that most people are really uneducated when it comes to history in general. I've found all too many times people said history was boring, they slept through class, and they don't really know anything about it other than a few facts here and there they picked up somewhere. Even then what history they do know, or think they know, usually is white washed facts that passes for history in our schools today. For instance, how many people were involved in the Lincoln assassanation? If you are like most people you will mention John Wilks Booth and forget everyone else involved in the plot to kill Lincoln. The real truth is there was several people involved directly with the Lincoln assassaination, and several cabinit members were attacked the same night as Lincoln. John Wilks Booth was killed while trying to escape, but several other members of the conspiracy were rounded up and put on trial. In the end four people were hanged for conspiracy, and four others were sent to prison. For some reason this part of the Lincoln assassination is rarely discussed. Its not even in the school books. Yet that is what really happened and is a matter of public record if anyone wants to look into it further. Its cases like this that really disgust me about the American school system. The history books maybe have one or two pages dedicated to any specific person or event and skip over the deeper truths and history behind what happened. For most people that's enough. The day people graduate from high school they just stop studying history, and that is very sad because history is extremely interesting if presented correctly. The Apaulo 13 mission is a case in point of history that is very interesting and has books and movies written about it. There is really no excuse not to know about it. Cheers! On 5/7/11, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Uh, Houston? We have a problem up here! I don't remember them saying that, but I do remember the coverage. Oddly enough, I was visiting a friend who had a young son who was really interested in space movies. I took a copy of Apollo 13 with descriptive narration to show them what those movies are like. During the movie, we were talking about what was going on in our country at the time of Apollo 13, remembering the music and stuff. The kid suddenly said, Wow! You guys are talking as if this really happened. I said, It did! It's not just a movie. It is based on fact. Apollo 13 actually happened. It blew him away, and it blew me away that he didn't know that. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
I don't know, but there's one way to find out, and it's simple. Check. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims? Can polo13 be found on the blind mice mart site? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
That's kind of like what you were talking about when you were saying how people associated three-headed dogs and other monsters with Harry Potter alone yet don't realize that they've appeared in legends from all over the world. Obviously Fluffy was based on Cerberus or Kerberos depending on your translation. I'm not sure what the real Boggart is (although I'm pretty sure it doesn't assume the form of a person's greatest fear), but I do seem to recall it being a real creature of folklore. Kapas are from Japanese legend I believe. THe point is they get fixated on one idea and forget or don't hear everything else. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims? HI Charles, Well, I'm not really that surprised. Besides the fact this kid was young, hadn't had history yet, etc I've generally found that most people are really uneducated when it comes to history in general. I've found all too many times people said history was boring, they slept through class, and they don't really know anything about it other than a few facts here and there they picked up somewhere. Even then what history they do know, or think they know, usually is white washed facts that passes for history in our schools today. For instance, how many people were involved in the Lincoln assassanation? If you are like most people you will mention John Wilks Booth and forget everyone else involved in the plot to kill Lincoln. The real truth is there was several people involved directly with the Lincoln assassaination, and several cabinit members were attacked the same night as Lincoln. John Wilks Booth was killed while trying to escape, but several other members of the conspiracy were rounded up and put on trial. In the end four people were hanged for conspiracy, and four others were sent to prison. For some reason this part of the Lincoln assassination is rarely discussed. Its not even in the school books. Yet that is what really happened and is a matter of public record if anyone wants to look into it further. Its cases like this that really disgust me about the American school system. The history books maybe have one or two pages dedicated to any specific person or event and skip over the deeper truths and history behind what happened. For most people that's enough. The day people graduate from high school they just stop studying history, and that is very sad because history is extremely interesting if presented correctly. The Apaulo 13 mission is a case in point of history that is very interesting and has books and movies written about it. There is really no excuse not to know about it. Cheers! On 5/7/11, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Uh, Houston? We have a problem up here! I don't remember them saying that, but I do remember the coverage. Oddly enough, I was visiting a friend who had a young son who was really interested in space movies. I took a copy of Apollo 13 with descriptive narration to show them what those movies are like. During the movie, we were talking about what was going on in our country at the time of Apollo 13, remembering the music and stuff. The kid suddenly said, Wow! You guys are talking as if this really happened. I said, It did! It's not just a movie. It is based on fact. Apollo 13 actually happened. It blew him away, and it blew me away that he didn't know that. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
It was there the last time I checked. Then again that site's been down for a while now due to rennovations. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: birdlover2...@hotmail.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims? I don't know, but there's one way to find out, and it's simple. Check. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims? Can polo13 be found on the blind mice mart site? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
Hi Bryan, Yeah, very true. There is a lot of history, mith, and legend packed into the Harry Potter series that most people frankly are holy unaware of. For instance, let's take Serious Black. There is some very special history linked to this name. The name Serious is the name of a star commonly known to the ancients as the Dog Star or Death Star. Not surprisingly therefore Serious can turn into a black dog which has an interesting legend in and of itself. According to British mith and legend a black dog, called a Grim, symbolizes death much in the same way some people think of black cats today. So I personally find it interesting that Serious Black's name and dog form is tied to death legends, but if you try and discuss this with your average Harry Potter fan they won't know anything about it. Most of them probably can't even tell you that Serious is a star let alone all the mith and legend attached to it in ancient times. This kind of ignorance of history is what really gets me upset at our school system etc. I think the reason why so many people say history is dull, boring, uninteresting, etc is simply the way it is taught or presented to students. History teachers seem to focus on dry facts, names, dates, etc rather than letting the stories tell themselves. With the total anti-religion movement in our schools today they don't even want to get into mith and ancient religions as that involves religious debates and discussions. So they stick to dry, boring, and largely uninteresting facts instead of all the cool stuff history has to offer. For example, I myself am a big fan of Egyptology. Have studied it in depth since I was a kid. However, memorizing what Pharoe ruled when and what wars he faught in is only the plane ordinary part of the history. To really understand them as a people you have to study their myths, their legends, their religion and you will begin to see them as who they really were and things will get a lot more interesting. Also there are plenty of interesting things left open to debate like was Tutankhamun murdered? There are many people who believe this because of a letter Queen Ankhesenamen wrote to the Hitite king stating that she feared for her life, and she believed Ay had ordered Tutankhamun's murder. What we do know for a fact is Ay had forced Queen Ankhesenamen into marrying him so he could assume the thrown, and then she vanishes from history and her body has never been found. What we have there is a 3,500 year old murder mystery/conspiracy. So there are plenty of interesting things to study in history if people get passed the dry boring stuff taught in public schools. Cheers! On 5/8/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: That's kind of like what you were talking about when you were saying how people associated three-headed dogs and other monsters with Harry Potter alone yet don't realize that they've appeared in legends from all over the world. Obviously Fluffy was based on Cerberus or Kerberos depending on your translation. I'm not sure what the real Boggart is (although I'm pretty sure it doesn't assume the form of a person's greatest fear), but I do seem to recall it being a real creature of folklore. Kapas are from Japanese legend I believe. THe point is they get fixated on one idea and forget or don't hear everything else. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
Exactly. I remember reading a chat between David Greenwood and one of the other guys on the GMA talk list. THe topic was Lone Wolf as I recall and somehow the conversation got around to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. THe actual point was that people don't seem to realize tat the US might have brought that attack on itself by its actions around that time. People conveniently forgot that we as Americans might have been at least as much to blame for what happened as the Japanese. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims? Hi Bryan, Yeah, very true. There is a lot of history, mith, and legend packed into the Harry Potter series that most people frankly are holy unaware of. For instance, let's take Serious Black. There is some very special history linked to this name. The name Serious is the name of a star commonly known to the ancients as the Dog Star or Death Star. Not surprisingly therefore Serious can turn into a black dog which has an interesting legend in and of itself. According to British mith and legend a black dog, called a Grim, symbolizes death much in the same way some people think of black cats today. So I personally find it interesting that Serious Black's name and dog form is tied to death legends, but if you try and discuss this with your average Harry Potter fan they won't know anything about it. Most of them probably can't even tell you that Serious is a star let alone all the mith and legend attached to it in ancient times. This kind of ignorance of history is what really gets me upset at our school system etc. I think the reason why so many people say history is dull, boring, uninteresting, etc is simply the way it is taught or presented to students. History teachers seem to focus on dry facts, names, dates, etc rather than letting the stories tell themselves. With the total anti-religion movement in our schools today they don't even want to get into mith and ancient religions as that involves religious debates and discussions. So they stick to dry, boring, and largely uninteresting facts instead of all the cool stuff history has to offer. For example, I myself am a big fan of Egyptology. Have studied it in depth since I was a kid. However, memorizing what Pharoe ruled when and what wars he faught in is only the plane ordinary part of the history. To really understand them as a people you have to study their myths, their legends, their religion and you will begin to see them as who they really were and things will get a lot more interesting. Also there are plenty of interesting things left open to debate like was Tutankhamun murdered? There are many people who believe this because of a letter Queen Ankhesenamen wrote to the Hitite king stating that she feared for her life, and she believed Ay had ordered Tutankhamun's murder. What we do know for a fact is Ay had forced Queen Ankhesenamen into marrying him so he could assume the thrown, and then she vanishes from history and her body has never been found. What we have there is a 3,500 year old murder mystery/conspiracy. So there are plenty of interesting things to study in history if people get passed the dry boring stuff taught in public schools. Cheers! On 5/8/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: That's kind of like what you were talking about when you were saying how people associated three-headed dogs and other monsters with Harry Potter alone yet don't realize that they've appeared in legends from all over the world. Obviously Fluffy was based on Cerberus or Kerberos depending on your translation. I'm not sure what the real Boggart is (although I'm pretty sure it doesn't assume the form of a person's greatest fear), but I do seem to recall it being a real creature of folklore. Kapas are from Japanese legend I believe. THe point is they get fixated on one idea and forget or don't hear everything else. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
Hi Bryan, In deed. I don't recall which book it was, maybe At Don We Slept, where the author presents some convincing evidence we knew the attack was coming but conveniently ignored the information in order to bring us into World War II. F.D.R. knew if we were attacked people would get behind the war 100% and so they let Pearl Harbor happen without any initial warning or resistance from the high command. Of course, the U.S. government, even today, will deny that accusation, but there is plenty of historical documentation etc to back up the claim that F.D.R. intentionally let Pearl Harbor happen to get us into the war. Of course, we are now getting way off topic so we should try and get things back on topic here. Cheers! On 5/8/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Exactly. I remember reading a chat between David Greenwood and one of the other guys on the GMA talk list. THe topic was Lone Wolf as I recall and somehow the conversation got around to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. THe actual point was that people don't seem to realize tat the US might have brought that attack on itself by its actions around that time. People conveniently forgot that we as Americans might have been at least as much to blame for what happened as the Japanese. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
There are certain areas in history that are interesting. I find European and Asian history much more interesting than, say, Canadian history. There just isn't anything interesting about the history of this country... it's all trading and politics, and especially the way it's presented in textbooks is ridiculous. I love history... always have. But I prefer European and Asian history, especially in the areas of mythology, military and weapons. At 07:45 AM 08/05/2011, you wrote: HI Charles, Well, I'm not really that surprised. Besides the fact this kid was young, hadn't had history yet, etc I've generally found that most people are really uneducated when it comes to history in general. I've found all too many times people said history was boring, they slept through class, and they don't really know anything about it other than a few facts here and there they picked up somewhere. Even then what history they do know, or think they know, usually is white washed facts that passes for history in our schools today. For instance, how many people were involved in the Lincoln assassanation? If you are like most people you will mention John Wilks Booth and forget everyone else involved in the plot to kill Lincoln. The real truth is there was several people involved directly with the Lincoln assassaination, and several cabinit members were attacked the same night as Lincoln. John Wilks Booth was killed while trying to escape, but several other members of the conspiracy were rounded up and put on trial. In the end four people were hanged for conspiracy, and four others were sent to prison. For some reason this part of the Lincoln assassination is rarely discussed. Its not even in the school books. Yet that is what really happened and is a matter of public record if anyone wants to look into it further. Its cases like this that really disgust me about the American school system. The history books maybe have one or two pages dedicated to any specific person or event and skip over the deeper truths and history behind what happened. For most people that's enough. The day people graduate from high school they just stop studying history, and that is very sad because history is extremely interesting if presented correctly. The Apaulo 13 mission is a case in point of history that is very interesting and has books and movies written about it. There is really no excuse not to know about it. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
Actually the we have a problem line was real, though admittedly Ron Howard did change it a little. What Lovell actually said was Houston, we've had a problem. ROn Howard of course changed it to We have a problem since the use of Had would seem to indicate that though there was a problem onboard ship it had already been taken care of, when in fact the trouble was only just beginning. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims? Uh, Houston? We have a problem up here! I don't remember them saying that, but I do remember the coverage. Oddly enough, I was visiting a friend who had a young son who was really interested in space movies. I took a copy of Apollo 13 with descriptive narration to show them what those movies are like. During the movie, we were talking about what was going on in our country at the time of Apollo 13, remembering the music and stuff. The kid suddenly said, Wow! You guys are talking as if this really happened. I said, It did! It's not just a movie. It is based on fact. Apollo 13 actually happened. It blew him away, and it blew me away that he didn't know that. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Apollo - Re: Space sims? Or one based on the Apollo 13 mission. So the idea would be to try to manage your extremely limited resources in such a way as to be able to return home safely. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:02 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Apollo - Re: Space sims? An Apollo mission simulation would really be awesome, especially if it had realistic sound effects with the right timing. I would like to have a set of such games that take you from training to returning from the moon, including lunar exploration when both walking and operation of a LEM. And, of course, part of it would be leaving the Apollo spacecraft in the lunar lander and returning to and docking with it. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Space sims? Hi Ron, Oh, I could probably do it as well, at least a fair shuttle simulator, but like Munawar I've got so much going on now I don't have the time. Something else I'd love to see in accessible format is an Apaulo simulator. Not only taking off, but flying the Apaulo to the moon and back. That would rock. On 5/7/11, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Thank you Tom for making me eat my statement. SMILES. So far the only people that I know who might be able to do it for us would be Munawar with his people atBPC Programs. But I know he has his hands full with school and other responsibilities. But with his business and normal home responsibilities. After my vet gets payed on Monday, I'll be placing a order for a new wireless headset for both the ears and for those games that have communication features. I'm getting tangled up in all of the cables. Both for the USB headset that I have and with the new f510. Will let everyone know how it works out when it gets here for those looking for a way to untangle themselves some what from all of those cables as well. Ron who said why can't we drive and fly? SMILES. Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
Yes, they did say that they had a problem, but not up here. For movies, though, close counts. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims? Actually the we have a problem line was real, though admittedly Ron Howard did change it a little. What Lovell actually said was Houston, we've had a problem. ROn Howard of course changed it to We have a problem since the use of Had would seem to indicate that though there was a problem onboard ship it had already been taken care of, when in fact the trouble was only just beginning. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims? Uh, Houston? We have a problem up here! I don't remember them saying that, but I do remember the coverage. Oddly enough, I was visiting a friend who had a young son who was really interested in space movies. I took a copy of Apollo 13 with descriptive narration to show them what those movies are like. During the movie, we were talking about what was going on in our country at the time of Apollo 13, remembering the music and stuff. The kid suddenly said, Wow! You guys are talking as if this really happened. I said, It did! It's not just a movie. It is based on fact. Apollo 13 actually happened. It blew him away, and it blew me away that he didn't know that. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Apollo - Re: Space sims? Or one based on the Apollo 13 mission. So the idea would be to try to manage your extremely limited resources in such a way as to be able to return home safely. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 7:02 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Apollo - Re: Space sims? An Apollo mission simulation would really be awesome, especially if it had realistic sound effects with the right timing. I would like to have a set of such games that take you from training to returning from the moon, including lunar exploration when both walking and operation of a LEM. And, of course, part of it would be leaving the Apollo spacecraft in the lunar lander and returning to and docking with it. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Space sims? Hi Ron, Oh, I could probably do it as well, at least a fair shuttle simulator, but like Munawar I've got so much going on now I don't have the time. Something else I'd love to see in accessible format is an Apaulo simulator. Not only taking off, but flying the Apaulo to the moon and back. That would rock. On 5/7/11, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote: Thank you Tom for making me eat my statement. SMILES. So far the only people that I know who might be able to do it for us would be Munawar with his people atBPC Programs. But I know he has his hands full with school and other responsibilities. But with his business and normal home responsibilities. After my vet gets payed on Monday, I'll be placing a order for a new wireless headset for both the ears and for those games that have communication features. I'm getting tangled up in all of the cables. Both for the USB headset that I have and with the new f510. Will let everyone know how it works out when it gets here for those looking for a way to untangle themselves some what from all of those cables as well. Ron who said why can't we drive and fly? SMILES. Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update
Re: [Audyssey] Apollo 13 - Re: Apollo - Re: Space sims?
Can polo13 be found on the blind mice mart site? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
