Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-24 Thread shaun everiss
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio can you still get that program? where can I get that? I may keep that util round. At 10:52 a.m. 24/03/2010, you wrote: Hi Shaun

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-24 Thread shaun everiss
...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio can you still get that program? where can I get that? I may keep that util round. At 10:52 a.m. 24/03/2010, you

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-24 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Muhammed, That's not really that complicated. What a person would likely do, if creating a tool like Shaun mentioned, is create a small program that gets downloaded to your PC much like the way Genuine Advantage gets downloaded and installed. In other words it would be basically a browser

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-24 Thread Muhammed Deniz
: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio Hi Muhammed, That's not really that complicated. What a person would likely do, if creating a tool like Shaun mentioned, is create a small program that gets downloaded to your PC much like the way Genuine Advantage gets

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, thanks to some advice given by Davy Kager I definitely think I'm going to give XAudio2 a try. He's been doing some experimentation and development with XAudio2, and from what he said XAudio2 really has some outstanding features. The one issue that really grabbed my attention was the

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden, No. DirectShow natively supports a number of video and audio file types including: avi, mp3, mpg, wav, wma, and wmv. However, while it can support audio formats like mp3 and wma it is primarily used for video playback and rendering. For example, mainstream game developers might use

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-23 Thread shaun everiss
WELL TOM NOT SURE IF YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT IF YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING ON YOUR WEBSITE THAT DETECTED THINGS IE DIRECTX 9 AND THINGS COMPARING IT AND OTHER THINGS TO THE LATEST VERSIONS. AND IF THINGS WERE OK YOU GOT SAY THE DOWNLOAD PAGE FOR THE GAMES. IF NOT YOU WOULD BE WARNED AND EITHER BARED

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Well, there is no way I know of to do it from the web site, but I know some setup/installers do allow you to do version matching/comparison. Microsoft's Advanced Setup Installer allows you to check for things such as .NET, specific DirectX versions, etc but Advanced Setup Installer isn't

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-23 Thread Muhammed Deniz
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio WELL TOM NOT SURE IF YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT IF YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING ON YOUR WEBSITE THAT DETECTED THINGS IE DIRECTX 9 AND THINGS COMPARING IT AND OTHER THINGS TO THE LATEST

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-23 Thread Hayden Presley
Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 12:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio WELL TOM NOT SURE IF YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT IF YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING ON YOUR

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-23 Thread shaun everiss
username. muhammed - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio WELL TOM NOT SURE IF YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT IF YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING ON YOUR

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-23 Thread shaun everiss
: Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio WELL TOM NOT SURE IF YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT IF YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING ON YOUR WEBSITE THAT DETECTED THINGS IE DIRECTX 9 AND THINGS COMPARING IT AND OTHER THINGS TO THE LATEST VERSIONS. AND IF THINGS WERE OK YOU GOT SAY THE DOWNLOAD PAGE FOR THE GAMES

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-23 Thread Hayden Presley
Of shaun everiss Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio can you still get that program? where can I get that? I may keep that util round. At 10:52 a.m. 24/03/2010, you wrote: Hi Shaun, In order to do that you'd probably need

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Philip Bennefall
Hi Thomas, My vote goes to DirectSound. All cons considered it is rock solid, and it's been tried and tested for 10 years. XAudio2 is the future, certainly, but not quite yet in my mind. Eventually I intend making Streemway support both DirectSound and XAudio2 and adjust itself depending on

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm well we already need dotnet for most things and directx is not to bad I upgrade every so often anyway. xna can be put into the installers its small as. I already run entombed. Ok so the down side? dotnet stuff in general and xna stuff takes some time to load although you have the advantage

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread shaun everiss
thats a point phill if both can be supported and then have it autoswitch or have an option in a menu to switch if the system finds both, in my system for example where I have all the libs for just about everything that needs to exist I'd like that. At 07:08 p.m. 22/03/2010, you wrote: Hi Thomas,

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread dark
Hi Tom. I'm not really up on too many of the technical differences, but reading your message sseveral thoughts did occur to me. First, why worry about people having to upgrade direct X? myself I'm quite willing to install several versions of net framework and direct X upgrades for

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Jacob Kruger
I don't know the newer one at all, but have been playing around with DirectSound myself a little bit FWIW, and it seems to thin it does have support for 3.1 and 5.1, 7.1 and surround speakers AFAIK, but not really relevant. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread shaun everiss
well not to mention that dotnet is part of the critical and optional windows updates so unless you don't update don't use autoupdate and don't visit the site often like I do, or just don't go online or something you prity much need to upgrade. No excuse not to. you will need directx which can

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Thomas, Here is the advantages of XAudio2 from an article: An Introduction and Overview of XAudio2 by Brian Schmidt Gamasutra January 29, 2008 XAudio2 Features and Architecture XAudio2 provides many features necessary for the creation of modern game sound design: Cross platform between

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, I believed I asked for an educated opinion about DirectSound verses XAudio2, and your message is anything but educated on the subject. First, of all I wasn't talking about the XNA Framework which is a .NET based wrapper for the newer DirectX libraries such as XInput, XAudio, and so on.

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Phil, Thanks for the article. I definitely found it informative and educational. I'm not sure if it helps me decide between DirectSound or XAudio2, but it gives me an in depth technical blow by blow comparison which comes in handy to know. It does sound like XAudio2 is definitely the way of the

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Why exactly do you think getting DirectX updates is a pain? Why not simply go to the official DirectX web page http://www.microsoft.com/directx and download them. It is easy to find and download, and that is where I always get my DirectX updates from. In fact, in the future I'm probably

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jacob, Considering DirectSound's age that's not surprising. It really doesn't have top of the line 5.1 or 7.1 support, because it was initially created in 95/96 for a totally different era of sound cards and audio technology. Although, DirectSound has been updated as much as possible it hasn't

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Willem
My only problem with direct x updates is the file size, though they are needed for almost all the new audio games, so gamers would have to download them anyway. On 3/22/2010 11:30 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, Why exactly do you think getting DirectX updates is a pain? Why not simply go to

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Jacob Kruger
list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio Hi Jacob, Considering DirectSound's age that's not surprising. It really doesn't have top of the line 5.1 or 7.1 support, because it was initially created in 95/96 for a totally different

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, It is not so much I'm particularly worried about people upgrading their version of DirectX as much as convenience for the end user here. During my previous game releases of Final Conflict, Montezuma's Revenge, and Mysteries of the Ancients the number one technical support issue and

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Philip, That has been my thought as well. While a part of me would like nothing more than to get started using XAudio2, as it seams like it has some rather nice features, stability is foremost on my mind. DirectSound was started around 1996 and was actively maintained and updated until 2006

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread dark
Well Tom, I'm a litle surprised people can't follow a basic set of clear instructions, especially when it just comes down to running install wizards, and even more especially when it comes down to things which are needed for several games not just yours. I remember when I first started

Re: [Audyssey] DirectSound or XAudio

2010-03-22 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Thomas, About compressed file types...I know that Direct Show supports MP3s. Does it only support Mpeg Layer 3 compression? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, March 22,