Re: [Audyssey] Mac Comment: Re: X-Sight Interactive News
Actually its the op itself. When anything and I mean anything goes to save or write to the op or harddrive. It will ask if you want it done. Even when saving a file on install a window pops up giving the web address and asking if ok to preform action. So unless your truly stupid. You can not get much on a mac. And lets not forget the op itself, its not windows based its more on linix and never had there ben a virus on that op. I'm not saying it can't be done, but its not as easy as anything windows based. With mac's software is ran independent of the op and not intercorrelated into every facet like windows, and yes you can run software together as though it was part of each other. mac has more than 15% of the market and is growing. The biggest problem with windows is low power boxes. In a mac you get the highest of all parts. Take my xp box, 2.8 dual core2, 2 gigs ram 500 us speed and a 500 gig harddrive at 7200 speed. Now the mac is the same but the bus speed is 1066 The highest the chip will go. And running xp along side os10 it still out does the xp stand alone. At 06:43 PM 1/8/2010, you wrote: Hi, The reason Mac's have less malware is because it doesn't have a large percentage of users (compared to how many Windows has). If someone really wanted too, I'm sure they could make a virus for a Mac. -Ryan On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Munawar Bijani munaw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Agreed. And just a note, hard drives can crash on Mac too. They're no exception to the rule. Hardware is hardware no matter which computer you have. I don't see why people still think Macs are invincible. Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Tim trouble Verizon FIOS support tech Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mac Comment: Re: X-Sight Interactive News
True not everyone needs or can use a mac. But you take it so one sided. That kind of states that you are one of those got to have it one way and something else is not right or doing something two totally different way is a sin? Just because someone says get a mac. Dude don't take it so personal! if you don't want one then don't, but making a issue out of it really says a lot about you! I didn't disagree with the mac comments or bash them. I bought one and do like it. I can say from first hand experience about what it can or can not do as far as accessibility goes. I don't assume like someone that don't own or even tried one! - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Tim trouble Verizon FIOS support tech Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mac Comment: Re: X-Sight Interactive News
Hi Trouble, Actually, Mac OS X is based on a BSD core. The graphical user interface is a custom GUI developed by Apple Soft, but the operating system itself is a gloified clone of BSD Unix. That is why it is so stable, and is reasonably secure from malware because traditionally Unix based operating systems have a completely different approach to security than Windows and it is not impossible but much harder to infect a BSD, Linux, or Mac OS system with a virus or worm. Here is a case in point. There have been viruses and worms developed for Linux, but not many. The difference here is that the virus/worm infected the target system by someone hacking into the super user account remotely and then planting the virus/worm , and then ran it as root. Obviously, these were very determined and skilled attacks, requiring a lot of skill compromising Linux security, and isn't the work of your average virus creater. So given the fact such virus and worm attacks are difficult and pretty rare a Linux system is generally more secure than Windows. In all my years as a computer technology specialist I've never seen a case were a Mac or Linux computer was infected with a virus via e-mail which is the traditional way of infecting Windows systems. Plus most Mac or Linux users don't traditionally run as root, the super user, and prefer using a standard non-admin account for day to day operation of the computer. This adds a layer of security that Windows users don't generally practice. I've seen a lot of average home users computers and99% of the computers I work on are running as administrator 24/7. Not only is that bad it's just plane stupid from a security standpoint. They unknowingly give full unsecured access to the operating system to every virus, worm, trojan, and spyware that comes along. So when you put it altogether between bad security habits and a poor secure design Windows is just easier to infect and compromise. Anyway, we are getting extremely off topic here. Let's try and stear thing backs to gaming shall we? Cheers! On Sat, 2010-01-09 at 05:12 -0500, Trouble wrote: Actually its the op itself. When anything and I mean anything goes to save or write to the op or harddrive. It will ask if you want it done. Even when saving a file on install a window pops up giving the web address and asking if ok to preform action. So unless your truly stupid. You can not get much on a mac. And lets not forget the op itself, its not windows based its more on linix and never had there ben a virus on that op. I'm not saying it can't be done, but its not as easy as anything windows based. With mac's software is ran independent of the op and not intercorrelated into every facet like windows, and yes you can run software together as though it was part of each other. mac has more than 15% of the market and is growing. The biggest problem with windows is low power boxes. In a mac you get the highest of all parts. Take my xp box, 2.8 dual core2, 2 gigs ram 500 us speed and a 500 gig harddrive at 7200 speed. Now the mac is the same but the bus speed is 1066 The highest the chip will go. And running xp along side os10 it still out does the xp stand alone. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mac Comment: Re: X-Sight Interactive News
well there have been security updates on linux and mac and yess people have got viruses on linux and mac. There are loads of linuxes and the main reason we don't see much in the way of viruses so much is that the updates come out faster maybe and less time for security issues to stay round. mac not sure but its got a good record to. Everything though is mostly geared at windows though. even so you are mostly safe. One thing I have done though unsecure is not use an address book all important info is ssaved in pure text. while this leaves passwords, and other things unsecured and easy to get if the system is ever hacked into, it means I don't rely on programs if they ever currupted or crashed. it also means I can access em on multipul systems. I only have 4 passwords. my bank password, my net password. Another password for my trademe and everything else free has a master password for everything which is a lot. a lot of stuff has the same username. At 11:12 p.m. 9/01/2010, you wrote: Actually its the op itself. When anything and I mean anything goes to save or write to the op or harddrive. It will ask if you want it done. Even when saving a file on install a window pops up giving the web address and asking if ok to preform action. So unless your truly stupid. You can not get much on a mac. And lets not forget the op itself, its not windows based its more on linix and never had there ben a virus on that op. I'm not saying it can't be done, but its not as easy as anything windows based. With mac's software is ran independent of the op and not intercorrelated into every facet like windows, and yes you can run software together as though it was part of each other. mac has more than 15% of the market and is growing. The biggest problem with windows is low power boxes. In a mac you get the highest of all parts. Take my xp box, 2.8 dual core2, 2 gigs ram 500 us speed and a 500 gig harddrive at 7200 speed. Now the mac is the same but the bus speed is 1066 The highest the chip will go. And running xp along side os10 it still out does the xp stand alone. At 06:43 PM 1/8/2010, you wrote: Hi, The reason Mac's have less malware is because it doesn't have a large percentage of users (compared to how many Windows has). If someone really wanted too, I'm sure they could make a virus for a Mac. -Ryan On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Munawar Bijani munaw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Agreed. And just a note, hard drives can crash on Mac too. They're no exception to the rule. Hardware is hardware no matter which computer you have. I don't see why people still think Macs are invincible. Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Tim trouble Verizon FIOS support tech Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] Mac Comment: Re: X-Sight Interactive News
hmmm when I used linux I had to terminals running if using the command console, one using root and one using normal accounts though if I did a modification on the sudo I probably could get the same result. At 03:06 a.m. 10/01/2010, you wrote: Hi Trouble, Actually, Mac OS X is based on a BSD core. The graphical user interface is a custom GUI developed by Apple Soft, but the operating system itself is a gloified clone of BSD Unix. That is why it is so stable, and is reasonably secure from malware because traditionally Unix based operating systems have a completely different approach to security than Windows and it is not impossible but much harder to infect a BSD, Linux, or Mac OS system with a virus or worm. Here is a case in point. There have been viruses and worms developed for Linux, but not many. The difference here is that the virus/worm infected the target system by someone hacking into the super user account remotely and then planting the virus/worm , and then ran it as root. Obviously, these were very determined and skilled attacks, requiring a lot of skill compromising Linux security, and isn't the work of your average virus creater. So given the fact such virus and worm attacks are difficult and pretty rare a Linux system is generally more secure than Windows. In all my years as a computer technology specialist I've never seen a case were a Mac or Linux computer was infected with a virus via e-mail which is the traditional way of infecting Windows systems. Plus most Mac or Linux users don't traditionally run as root, the super user, and prefer using a standard non-admin account for day to day operation of the computer. This adds a layer of security that Windows users don't generally practice. I've seen a lot of average home users computers and99% of the computers I work on are running as administrator 24/7. Not only is that bad it's just plane stupid from a security standpoint. They unknowingly give full unsecured access to the operating system to every virus, worm, trojan, and spyware that comes along. So when you put it altogether between bad security habits and a poor secure design Windows is just easier to infect and compromise. Anyway, we are getting extremely off topic here. Let's try and stear thing backs to gaming shall we? Cheers! On Sat, 2010-01-09 at 05:12 -0500, Trouble wrote: Actually its the op itself. When anything and I mean anything goes to save or write to the op or harddrive. It will ask if you want it done. Even when saving a file on install a window pops up giving the web address and asking if ok to preform action. So unless your truly stupid. You can not get much on a mac. And lets not forget the op itself, its not windows based its more on linix and never had there ben a virus on that op. I'm not saying it can't be done, but its not as easy as anything windows based. With mac's software is ran independent of the op and not intercorrelated into every facet like windows, and yes you can run software together as though it was part of each other. mac has more than 15% of the market and is growing. The biggest problem with windows is low power boxes. In a mac you get the highest of all parts. Take my xp box, 2.8 dual core2, 2 gigs ram 500 us speed and a 500 gig harddrive at 7200 speed. Now the mac is the same but the bus speed is 1066 The highest the chip will go. And running xp along side os10 it still out does the xp stand alone. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mac Comment: Re: X-Sight Interactive News
and you completely missed the pointI was trying to make. I said quite clearly that I don't care if people use macs or whatever OS they desire. it's this air of superiority people acquire when they get macs that annoys me. the original message said get a mac, it just works. to me that says Windows or whatever other OS you use is garbage, mac's the best. Thomas always posts his views on macs, Linux and other OS's, and I don't say anything about it. know why? cause he knows how to do it properly without trashing everyone else's choice. This is why I respect him and his contributions to the list. trouble, I suggest you read the threads you reply to before judging people or making ridiculous assumptions about people you don't even know, instead of replying on impulse. - Original Message - From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com To: Munawar Bijani munaw...@gmail.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mac Comment: Re: X-Sight Interactive News True not everyone needs or can use a mac. But you take it so one sided. That kind of states that you are one of those got to have it one way and something else is not right or doing something two totally different way is a sin? Just because someone says get a mac. Dude don't take it so personal! if you don't want one then don't, but making a issue out of it really says a lot about you! I didn't disagree with the mac comments or bash them. I bought one and do like it. I can say from first hand experience about what it can or can not do as far as accessibility goes. I don't assume like someone that don't own or even tried one! - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Tim trouble Verizon FIOS support tech Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Mac Comment: Re: X-Sight Interactive News
Hi, The reason Mac's have less malware is because it doesn't have a large percentage of users (compared to how many Windows has). If someone really wanted too, I'm sure they could make a virus for a Mac. -Ryan On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Munawar Bijani munaw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Agreed. And just a note, hard drives can crash on Mac too. They're no exception to the rule. Hardware is hardware no matter which computer you have. I don't see why people still think Macs are invincible. Munawar A. Bijani blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com http://www.bpcprograms.com Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009 - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
