Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Hi Alfredo, Actually, neither train simulation is exactly new. Both have been floating around for a while, and are, as far as I know, pretty much abandonware. So what you see is what you get. Its not like the sims are being actively developed right now. Cheers! On 9/13/11, Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, This spoor thing I found on the list, is it blind-accessible? I installed it, but when I launch it, all I hear is the train's engine, but nothing else. Nothing happens when I use any of the keys. Where can I find this new train seem for whoever is working on this project? Alfredo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Well tom on that note, If someone wants to actually develop the pkb sim they are probably welcome to the code. Its autoit they can take the concept and do something with it. THe group died 2 years ago and stopped producing a year maybe 6 months before that. The other I am not sure. I still have a pkb archive of 500mb with descriptions but as I never recieved many comments and requests its no longer on the box. And eventually I may even delete it fully here to. At 01:29 a.m. 15/09/2011, you wrote: Hi Alfredo, Actually, neither train simulation is exactly new. Both have been floating around for a while, and are, as far as I know, pretty much abandonware. So what you see is what you get. Its not like the sims are being actively developed right now. Cheers! On 9/13/11, Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, This spoor thing I found on the list, is it blind-accessible? I installed it, but when I launch it, all I hear is the train's engine, but nothing else. Nothing happens when I use any of the keys. Where can I find this new train seem for whoever is working on this project? Alfredo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Hi Shaun, Hmmm...Well, maybe I'll do that after I finish my current pile of game projects. Although, to be honest someone would have to be insane to continue writing the thing in AutoIt. That language is absolute crap. I can think of much better languages and APIs to use including my own G3D engine. :D Cheers! On 9/14/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well tom on that note, If someone wants to actually develop the pkb sim they are probably welcome to the code. Its autoit they can take the concept and do something with it. THe group died 2 years ago and stopped producing a year maybe 6 months before that. The other I am not sure. I still have a pkb archive of 500mb with descriptions but as I never recieved many comments and requests its no longer on the box. And eventually I may even delete it fully here to. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Well to be frank tom our sim was really crap anyway. Basic concept was that you had track files that had I think a value from 0.01 miles up to well the limit I don't think you have any mile limits. You have stations, rivers, creaks, etc. Forrests and so on. Each ariea say a field or river or pool or school or whatever had a sound. Sertain things like crossings would have a speed penalty if you went to fast over them, I am not sure if we fixed that to do anything negitive to you or not if you rushed through. You stop at a station, open your doors and let the people get on and off. you close your doors and go. Tones rise and fall in pitch depending on how close you were to a station. oh you could reverse to. If you missed a station you could just reverse. Unlike spoorsim there was no real speed limit. No crashes and no anything. In fact you could travel for ever and never come to the end of the track. There were no missions as far as I know. It was our first game, you had status keys and wistles and such you may have had other controls, I forget. Thats the basic concept. I'd like a sim maybe with missions. I think valient was the main dev for the trainsim game on pkb, maybe he could help out with that. I was never an really active gamer or dev on the group. Often I'd troll through the code hacking it so it ran without any real issue. If you are interested in working with me or others on the project after you finnish the current mutherload of stuff I think I'd be interested. The main reason pkb stopped even running anything before it even had any real releases was that interest died. I think some of the hacker groups still exist on their own terms and sites. I think dzk games exists still, wisi4you, and what is now draggonapps did exist as part of the group. Though its safe to say most of us run bgt dev now. Saying that I am sure that if someone really wanted to develop our projects pkb could start again. Main devs were kevin, piter, valient and maybe brian there were others 7 in all but only 2-3 actually did all the work. Oh orial was there to. This was an amater hacker group in the early 2000 years up to 2006. maybe a bit more. Our stuff was never finnished most of it was just junk. We did try. There is a lonewolf pack and a trek pack which has been largely superseeded by the stuff locutis does. THere are missions to for lw not many. But still. There were other things to. Like a stargate sim and a base battles game but really simple and no project was ever pollished to release. It was fun though. At 06:51 a.m. 15/09/2011, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Hmmm...Well, maybe I'll do that after I finish my current pile of game projects. Although, to be honest someone would have to be insane to continue writing the thing in AutoIt. That language is absolute crap. I can think of much better languages and APIs to use including my own G3D engine. :D Cheers! On 9/14/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well tom on that note, If someone wants to actually develop the pkb sim they are probably welcome to the code. Its autoit they can take the concept and do something with it. THe group died 2 years ago and stopped producing a year maybe 6 months before that. The other I am not sure. I still have a pkb archive of 500mb with descriptions but as I never recieved many comments and requests its no longer on the box. And eventually I may even delete it fully here to. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Hi. No it was not. There was enough to play with a little, but there wasn't really any point other than to listen to the sound. Maybe someone has a copy of it laying somewhere. I never finished it. I think now if it were going to be done, bgt would be better. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.13 portable. On 9/12/2011 6:38 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete th at .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the tr ain sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Hi. No it was not. There was enough to play with a little, but there wasn't really any point other than to listen to the sound. Maybe someone has a copy of it laying somewhere. I never finished it. I think now if it were going to be done, bgt would be better. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.13 portable. On 9/12/2011 6:38 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete th at .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the tr ain sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
hi the audio lib problem is solved by this link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29360185/comaudiosetup.exe and all this is temprarry and there isn't a website for this project. there isn't a manual for this. On 9/13/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: no there were 2 projects. The first I forgot who wrote it. There was a track but you really did not have much to do. my sighted friend played it ok I fiddled with it but there was not much to it. There was a test 4 version but it never was completed. Pkb also released a train sim. I may still have it, it may also be on some sites, and other places where random dodgy software exist because i have seen it. Development stopped for ages as did all projects for about 6 months before pkb finally died. It was really not much different from spursim except you did have a slightly advanced track with control of steam or deesel electric trains but no real mods ever came from it though it was more sim like. Ofcause pkb was a predominantly autoit group, this was mainly before bgt. Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete th at .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Hello, This spoor thing I found on the list, is it blind-accessible? I installed it, but when I launch it, all I hear is the train's engine, but nothing else. Nothing happens when I use any of the keys. Where can I find this new train seem for whoever is working on this project? Alfredo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Hi. You have to hit f1 to go to cav view, and then press f4 to turn on speech. Then it should speak the controls when you hit the keys. You have to hit the key again to speak the percentage or the new setting when you adjust it. It's kind of fun. I don't think there are any stations, so I pretend I'm stoping at certain stations and stuff. Hth. Bryan Mckinnish On 9/13/2011 7:27 AM, Alfredo_The_Music_maker wrote: Hello, This spoor thing I found on the list, is it blind-accessible? I installed it, but when I launch it, all I hear is the train's engine, but nothing else. Nothing happens when I use any of the keys. Where can I find this new train seem for whoever is working on this project? Alfredo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete th at .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the tr ain sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
I think http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29360185/train.zip On 9/12/11, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete th at .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the tr ain sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
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Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
no, that link didn't work for me. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: dhruv kumar kumardhru...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development I think http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29360185/train.zip On 9/12/11, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete th at .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the tr ain sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Well it worked here. At 08:38 AM 9/12/2011, you wrote: I think http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29360185/train.zip On 9/12/11, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete th at .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the tr ain sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Works fine for me - busy downloading right now. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: fred olver goodfo...@charter.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development no, that link didn't work for me. Fred Olver - Original Message - From: dhruv kumar kumardhru...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development I think http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29360185/train.zip On 9/12/11, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete th at .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Hi Dhruv, Thanks for the train sim link. It worked for me and maybe some of them might have tried it too soon. Is that a permanent drop box link for it or temporary? Is their a developer and web page for more information? Thanks, Phil - Original Message - From: dhruv kumar kumardhru...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development I think http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29360185/train.zip On 9/12/11, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Hello, what I can do? When I launch the game, this dialog view: --- Error --- The audio library could not be initialized. --- OK --- And how I can play this game, is it some manual? Thank you very much. Dne 12.9.2011 19:43, Phil Vlasak napsal(a): Hi Dhruv, Thanks for the train sim link. It worked for me and maybe some of them might have tried it too soon. Is that a permanent drop box link for it or temporary? Is their a developer and web page for more information? Thanks, Phil - Original Message - From: dhruv kumar kumardhru...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development I think http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29360185/train.zip On 9/12/11, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Can someone tell me how to play this? I have always been interested in trains - Original Message - From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Well it worked here. At 08:38 AM 9/12/2011, you wrote: I think http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29360185/train.zip On 9/12/11, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete th at .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
no there were 2 projects. The first I forgot who wrote it. There was a track but you really did not have much to do. my sighted friend played it ok I fiddled with it but there was not much to it. There was a test 4 version but it never was completed. Pkb also released a train sim. I may still have it, it may also be on some sites, and other places where random dodgy software exist because i have seen it. Development stopped for ages as did all projects for about 6 months before pkb finally died. It was really not much different from spursim except you did have a slightly advanced track with control of steam or deesel electric trains but no real mods ever came from it though it was more sim like. Ofcause pkb was a predominantly autoit group, this was mainly before bgt. Hi Folks, I ran across this message from two years ago. Was this accessible train simulator project ever finished? - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete th at .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file
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hello, I was wondering about the ms train and fs 2004 are they both free? and if so where can I get them as a website or if they do cost roughly how much? thanks Sal - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Hi, Well, if their train simulator is anything like Microsoft Train Simulator there is a whole lot more to it then just inputting two locations and letting the train go. In MS Train Simulator you have a variety of trains to choose from. You can pick anything from a classic steam engine to a state-of-the-art electric powered engine. Each train is unique to drive, and you have to train with the simulator a while before you get the hang of driving that particular train. Then, you have to select a route. Once you have selected/filed the route to drive you need to drive the route. I've not had much experience with Train Simulator, but I know it can get pretty involved in driving the routes. For example, you pretty much have to get a feel for when you should begin slowing down for a curve in the track, when taking a train bridge, or when passing through a town. If you have your realism settings turned on the last thing you want to do is take a curve at maximum speed. That is an accident waiting to happen. If you are taking a long hill you will want to throddle down to 0 in order to let the train coast thus saving steam/fuel on the descent. As I mentioned the other day there are things you can do such as on steam trains you can have the computer fireman manage your coal, fire box, etc for you. You can turn the computer fireman off and handle the job as fireman as well as drive the train. There are some advantages in manually being your own fireman such as if you are good at it you can operate the train at peak efficiency. Of course if you take over the job as fireman you need to be able to tell the difference in the smoke and find out if you have a full head of steam or you have too much or too little coal in the fire box. Another thing about MS Train Simulator is they use the actual train wistle codes. A lot of people think that the engineer blows the wistle for fun. Not true. The train wistle is used for a variety of signals and messages that you should learn when playing Train Simulator. Nick Helms wrote: Same here Is this a train simulator that you are developing, or did Harren find it? Also, forgive me, but what exactly do you do in a train simulator. Do you just imput two stations and hit ok and watch your train move between them? No afence, but what exactly does it involve? ? Best, Nick --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ NOD32 4336 (20090814) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, No, they aren't free. MS Flight Simulator 2004 is roughly $19 to $29 depending on where you buy it from. Microsoft Train Simulator for XP costs about $10 most places. So neither simulator costs very much. Although, they aren't 100% accessible so you will have to figure out work arounds to play them. sal wrote: hello, I was wondering about the ms train and fs 2004 are they both free? and if so where can I get them as a website or if they do cost roughly how much? thanks Sal --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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well right now its not much to look at. currently there are like 4 or so places you go passed, these include forrest, rivers, swiming pools, stations and a food factory. its quite boring and sucky right now because its still quite beta maybe even alpha. although its actually a compiled autoit script a load of stuff thats being tested is still in source, so its going to get better at least it may. there are some speed limits, etc but that be it. At 05:52 p.m. 15/08/2009, you wrote: this sounds boring to be honest lol On 15 Aug 2009, at 05:32, tim kilgore wrote: Can we check out this cool-sounding sim yet? Tim - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the train sim
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woww man. ok right now guys the sim is really crappy. read my other message, there are no turns and you only have a steam train. right now its really not much. but this is in early stages. At 05:58 p.m. 15/08/2009, you wrote: Hi, Well, if their train simulator is anything like Microsoft Train Simulator there is a whole lot more to it then just inputting two locations and letting the train go. In MS Train Simulator you have a variety of trains to choose from. You can pick anything from a classic steam engine to a state-of-the-art electric powered engine. Each train is unique to drive, and you have to train with the simulator a while before you get the hang of driving that particular train. Then, you have to select a route. Once you have selected/filed the route to drive you need to drive the route. I've not had much experience with Train Simulator, but I know it can get pretty involved in driving the routes. For example, you pretty much have to get a feel for when you should begin slowing down for a curve in the track, when taking a train bridge, or when passing through a town. If you have your realism settings turned on the last thing you want to do is take a curve at maximum speed. That is an accident waiting to happen. If you are taking a long hill you will want to throddle down to 0 in order to let the train coast thus saving steam/fuel on the descent. As I mentioned the other day there are things you can do such as on steam trains you can have the computer fireman manage your coal, fire box, etc for you. You can turn the computer fireman off and handle the job as fireman as well as drive the train. There are some advantages in manually being your own fireman such as if you are good at it you can operate the train at peak efficiency. Of course if you take over the job as fireman you need to be able to tell the difference in the smoke and find out if you have a full head of steam or you have too much or too little coal in the fire box. Another thing about MS Train Simulator is they use the actual train wistle codes. A lot of people think that the engineer blows the wistle for fun. Not true. The train wistle is used for a variety of signals and messages that you should learn when playing Train Simulator. Nick Helms wrote: Same here Is this a train simulator that you are developing, or did Harren find it? Also, forgive me, but what exactly do you do in a train simulator. Do you just imput two stations and hit ok and watch your train move between them? No afence, but what exactly does it involve? ? Best, Nick --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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that's a bit discurreging. though you'll have to admit it's better than spoor sim, lol. - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development this sounds boring to be honest lol On 15 Aug 2009, at 05:32, tim kilgore wrote: Can we check out this cool-sounding sim yet? Tim - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the train sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list
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yeah its sertainly better than spursim. at least we will see better improvements from the current state. spursim is not exactly going anywhere. At 07:54 p.m. 15/08/2009, you wrote: that's a bit discurreging. though you'll have to admit it's better than spoor sim, lol. - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development this sounds boring to be honest lol On 15 Aug 2009, at 05:32, tim kilgore wrote: Can we check out this cool-sounding sim yet? Tim - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to j ust delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right n ow
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Yay. I'm glad another developer is working on a simulator too. Hats off to serious games...finally! Munawar A. Bijani Knowledge is of two types: absorbed and heard. The heard knowledge is only useful if it is absorbed. - Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib, Nahj Al-Balagha mailto:munaw...@gmail.com http://www.bpcprograms.com - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 2:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Hi, No, they aren't free. MS Flight Simulator 2004 is roughly $19 to $29 depending on where you buy it from. Microsoft Train Simulator for XP costs about $10 most places. So neither simulator costs very much. Although, they aren't 100% accessible so you will have to figure out work arounds to play them. sal wrote: hello, I was wondering about the ms train and fs 2004 are they both free? and if so where can I get them as a website or if they do cost roughly how much? thanks Sal --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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It is a train sim...you're driving on a track. But the real fun in this one will be making sure your steam engine doesn't explode. :d. I played one sim a while back...I've forgotten the name now. It uses SAPI to read out your stats to you. It was a steam engine simulator but it pretty much ran on auto--or, at least, I couldn't figure out how to control the thing. I'm just glad someone else is also doing a simulator, and they seem pretty serious about it too. Give them time and it'll take off quite quickly. It sounds boring from what they've detailed so far, but remember, never judge a game based on a rough sketch of the plan. Munawar A. Bijani Knowledge is of two types: absorbed and heard. The heard knowledge is only useful if it is absorbed. - Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib, Nahj Al-Balagha mailto:munaw...@gmail.com http://www.bpcprograms.com - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development this sounds boring to be honest lol On 15 Aug 2009, at 05:32, tim kilgore wrote: Can we check out this cool-sounding sim yet? Tim - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying
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wondering what sim it was that you played. and yeah that's correct, we need time. plus you can make such a hard track that it's gonna be so tuff, short objects with quickly changing speed limits... and so on. - Original Message - From: Munawar Bijani munaw...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development It is a train sim...you're driving on a track. But the real fun in this one will be making sure your steam engine doesn't explode. :d. I played one sim a while back...I've forgotten the name now. It uses SAPI to read out your stats to you. It was a steam engine simulator but it pretty much ran on auto--or, at least, I couldn't figure out how to control the thing. I'm just glad someone else is also doing a simulator, and they seem pretty serious about it too. Give them time and it'll take off quite quickly. It sounds boring from what they've detailed so far, but remember, never judge a game based on a rough sketch of the plan. Munawar A. Bijani Knowledge is of two types: absorbed and heard. The heard knowledge is only useful if it is absorbed. - Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib, Nahj Al-Balagha mailto:munaw...@gmail.com http://www.bpcprograms.com - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development this sounds boring to be honest lol On 15 Aug 2009, at 05:32, tim kilgore wrote: Can we check out this cool-sounding sim yet? Tim - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok
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I remember one of those hard tracks. I was hauling oil on a 15 mile stretch to a small station. Passed 2 other stations, and had to adjust my speed quite a bit. Adjusted to 15 coming uphil into a station, to 40 as I left, and then to 30 in a steep downhil portion. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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what game was it in? - Original Message - From: Harun fusoya_1...@hotmail.com To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development I remember one of those hard tracks. I was hauling oil on a 15 mile stretch to a small station. Passed 2 other stations, and had to adjust my speed quite a bit. Adjusted to 15 coming uphil into a station, to 40 as I left, and then to 30 in a steep downhil portion. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the train sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090812-0, 08/12/2009 Tested on: 8/12/2009 9:04:13 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If
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Can we check out this cool-sounding sim yet? Tim - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the train sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow
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i would like to be a tester - Original Message - From: tim kilgore tim8...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Can we check out this cool-sounding sim yet? Tim - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the train sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
On 8/14/09, dennis dennisl1...@gmail.com wrote: i would like to be a tester - Original Message - From: tim kilgore tim8...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Can we check out this cool-sounding sim yet? Tim - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the train sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Same here Is this a train simulator that you are developing, or did Harren find it? Also, forgive me, but what exactly do you do in a train simulator. Do you just imput two stations and hit ok and watch your train move between them? No afence, but what exactly does it involve? ? Best, Nick On 8/14/09, Nick Helms nick.he...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/14/09, dennis dennisl1...@gmail.com wrote: i would like to be a tester - Original Message - From: tim kilgore tim8...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Can we check out this cool-sounding sim yet? Tim - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
aah. thanks for the keys man I suppose if I bothered hacking the code like I do then I would have noticed it. the only thing I have done is to doodle with one of the other projects to make a battle even or something. I'll redo the train again and see. At 06:21 p.m. 14/08/2009, you wrote: The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that . ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the train sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
well you can if you get on the test team, for those that don't at some point in the next 2 weeks I will be doing some podcasts on things pkd has done so far. At 04:32 p.m. 15/08/2009, you wrote: Can we check out this cool-sounding sim yet? Tim - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the train sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
this sounds boring to be honest lol On 15 Aug 2009, at 05:32, tim kilgore wrote: Can we check out this cool-sounding sim yet? Tim - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development The .ini track loading system is working now. Nothing is set in stone so this might be different later. At the moment ctrl+o will pop up the list box of tracks that are found in the tracks folder that can be selected. when on a track doing stuff, ctrl+s will save the current state of things so that one can close the train and then run the program again and find they're right where they were doing exactly what they were doing when they hit ctrl+s. So you can be going 85 miles per hour and press ctrl+s, close the train, open it again and you're going 85 miles per hour, traveling right where you were when you saved. Orriginally, it saved when you closed the train but it looks like not everyone is going to want it to work that way so at the moment saving is an option. the info is saved in an .ini file called train.ini. that file can be deleted to cause the train to pop up the dialogue as soon as you open the train for you to select a track. This should allow us to just delete that .ini file when we distribute and everyone who tries it out will get generic behavior. harun mentioned the speed limit system we were thinking about. Basically you use two objects that are pretty much just going to be signs. One will set the speed limit and the other will remove it so you can get up a good head of steam again. When pulling up to a station it's hard, both in reality and in this simulator to stop when you want to. You'll pass the station or stop too soon, or find you're about a quarter of a mile from it but going too slowly to be there any time inside of a decade. You get old waiting on it and speed things up a bit, only to go zooming past the station before you're aware of the fact. So we put in a beep that only plays if you're moving under 5 miles per hour. The beep indicates when you're within 0.0001 miles of what ever object you happen to be that close to. for a station this allows you to stop pretty darned close to where you want. You listen for that beep. You hear it and you hold down the letter k until the train comes to a hault. the beep only plays if you're moving and at a rate of under 5 miles per hour. So if you're zooming along you don't have to worry about that beep getting in the way of sound effects. - Original Message - From: Valiant8086 To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development Sorry if you guys get this twice. The .ini track loading system is in, but is still broken a bit and needs some serious work to get it to actually work like it's supposed to. It would appear, at least for now, that using .ini files doesn't slow the main loop down enough to bother with. this is good. At the moment we have an every day list box that popps up when you go to pick a track. The tracks are listed in there and the file extention is on the end, ini. Don't know if we should remove the extention from the list or not. You select the track you want and then tab to the ok button and press that. Right now all of the game except that is self voicing, though we considered using the API for the screen reader if a compatible one happened to be running to speak stuff instead of SAPI. We aren't using any key commands yet that a screen reader could conflict with, but when key echo is on it's kind of bothersome as you hold down a button, like the letter i, to accelerate and the screen reader keeps saying the letter over and over again. I know a way to make the track select list box speak with SAPI if necessary. Don't know if the ok button could be spoken or not. We're using all SAPI for now and probably going to keep using a synthesizer of some sort since things are going to be so generic. When we have object names and such loading from a .ini file that anyone can create with any name they can think of, audio voiceovers won't work for reading names of those objects and all that good stuff. I wouldn't mind using the dll version of ESpeak to tell the trooth. Right now the train sim is portable. We're going to keep it that way if we can. There is no installer. You just download it, unzip it and run the train.exe file. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
Hi, Well, if their train simulator is anything like Microsoft Train Simulator there is a whole lot more to it then just inputting two locations and letting the train go. In MS Train Simulator you have a variety of trains to choose from. You can pick anything from a classic steam engine to a state-of-the-art electric powered engine. Each train is unique to drive, and you have to train with the simulator a while before you get the hang of driving that particular train. Then, you have to select a route. Once you have selected/filed the route to drive you need to drive the route. I've not had much experience with Train Simulator, but I know it can get pretty involved in driving the routes. For example, you pretty much have to get a feel for when you should begin slowing down for a curve in the track, when taking a train bridge, or when passing through a town. If you have your realism settings turned on the last thing you want to do is take a curve at maximum speed. That is an accident waiting to happen. If you are taking a long hill you will want to throddle down to 0 in order to let the train coast thus saving steam/fuel on the descent. As I mentioned the other day there are things you can do such as on steam trains you can have the computer fireman manage your coal, fire box, etc for you. You can turn the computer fireman off and handle the job as fireman as well as drive the train. There are some advantages in manually being your own fireman such as if you are good at it you can operate the train at peak efficiency. Of course if you take over the job as fireman you need to be able to tell the difference in the smoke and find out if you have a full head of steam or you have too much or too little coal in the fire box. Another thing about MS Train Simulator is they use the actual train wistle codes. A lot of people think that the engineer blows the wistle for fun. Not true. The train wistle is used for a variety of signals and messages that you should learn when playing Train Simulator. Nick Helms wrote: Same here Is this a train simulator that you are developing, or did Harren find it? Also, forgive me, but what exactly do you do in a train simulator. Do you just imput two stations and hit ok and watch your train move between them? No afence, but what exactly does it involve? ? Best, Nick --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
