Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 gaming was gamebooks of Arborell
well thats good news. I think hardware wise I should be set then. At 04:50 p.m. 30/12/2008, you wrote: Hi Shaun, I know. I use Winkit all of the time for fixing the broken VB 6 installs on my Vista system. The point I was trying to make is by and large Microsoft has cleaned out most of the libraries that most audio games need by default. I think it is possible to get them running by tracking down the missing dependancies and installing them on Windows 7. On the other hand the pre-beta copy I have installed on my test box looks promising in other areas. Some say it runs faster than Vista, but I put the system requirements generally about the same. If you have an up to date 3 GHZ system and 1 GB of Ram running Vista Windows 7 will run great on that box. Install it on a 1 GHZ system with 512 MB of RAM and it runs, but not as well as XP under the same conditions. Though it is a slight improvement over Vista. The big change my wife tells me is the graphics technology looks a lot smoother and natural. It also does cool things like making other windows invisible when you open a new window. Instead of that stupid sidebar seen in Vista the gadgets are now on the desktop and are actually easier to get to with Window Eyes 7.01. The thing I really like about the Windows 7 pre-beta is I can fully customize the heck out of user account control. Under Vista whatever settings MS gave you were pretty much stuck with. They finally listened to somebody and now you can configure your security level for user account control to let applications and other things through that Vista won't let you do. One of them is allowing games to save to their install directories instead of locally to your user account. Amen! shaun everiss wrote: well the winkit zipfile jim kitchen has has most of what you need. I have the complete vb6sp6 runtimes on me to. I also have the complete sapi 5.1 systems to, though realspeak has everything to. At 08:52 a.m. 30/12/2008, you wrote: Hi Trenton, Yes, I have. I did manage to get ahold of the Windows 7 early beta and things are not looking too good for the majority of accessible games. The Windows 7 beta release I tested did not ship with any VB 6 support at all natively. That means the majority of the accessible games out there from GMA, Jim Kitchen, BSC, L-Works, DanZ Games, and so on are not going to work out of the box with Windows 7. I'm sorry to say unless those developers are willing to put the time and money into going to something like VB .NET. Those games are going to be difficult to get running on Windows 7, and you basically have to force a full VB 6 runtime install on there and hope it all works when Win 7 is finally released. On the bright side those developers who have walked away from VB and are using .NET technologies should be good to go. Rail Racer current demo worked fine on Windows 7 once you installed a copy of the managed DirectX libraries and .NET Framework 1.1. The 3D Volocity game by BPC Programs also worked ok. All of the USA Games products are being made Windows 7 ready. Beyond that have fun installing and fiddling with VB 6 libraries trying to get them to run properly. Trenton Matthews wrote: Just wait til Windows Seven comes out. Not liking the results for it. By the way, I hear the Windows Seven start up sound is quite strange. From a gaming perspective, has anyone tried Windows Seven beta with any of the blind friendly games out there yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to
Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 gaming was gamebooks of Arborell
Thanks for letting me know about that. I wonder if Draconis Entertaiment will be making their games Windows 7 compatible starting in 2009 as well. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 12:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Windows 7 gaming was gamebooks of Arborell Hi Trenton, Yes, I have. I did manage to get ahold of the Windows 7 early beta and things are not looking too good for the majority of accessible games. The Windows 7 beta release I tested did not ship with any VB 6 support at all natively. That means the majority of the accessible games out there from GMA, Jim Kitchen, BSC, L-Works, DanZ Games, and so on are not going to work out of the box with Windows 7. I'm sorry to say unless those developers are willing to put the time and money into going to something like VB .NET. Those games are going to be difficult to get running on Windows 7, and you basically have to force a full VB 6 runtime install on there and hope it all works when Win 7 is finally released. On the bright side those developers who have walked away from VB and are using .NET technologies should be good to go. Rail Racer current demo worked fine on Windows 7 once you installed a copy of the managed DirectX libraries and .NET Framework 1.1. The 3D Volocity game by BPC Programs also worked ok. All of the USA Games products are being made Windows 7 ready. Beyond that have fun installing and fiddling with VB 6 libraries trying to get them to run properly. Trenton Matthews wrote: Just wait til Windows Seven comes out. Not liking the results for it. By the way, I hear the Windows Seven start up sound is quite strange. From a gaming perspective, has anyone tried Windows Seven beta with any of the blind friendly games out there yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 gaming was gamebooks of Arborell
well the winkit zipfile jim kitchen has has most of what you need. I have the complete vb6sp6 runtimes on me to. I also have the complete sapi 5.1 systems to, though realspeak has everything to. At 08:52 a.m. 30/12/2008, you wrote: Hi Trenton, Yes, I have. I did manage to get ahold of the Windows 7 early beta and things are not looking too good for the majority of accessible games. The Windows 7 beta release I tested did not ship with any VB 6 support at all natively. That means the majority of the accessible games out there from GMA, Jim Kitchen, BSC, L-Works, DanZ Games, and so on are not going to work out of the box with Windows 7. I'm sorry to say unless those developers are willing to put the time and money into going to something like VB .NET. Those games are going to be difficult to get running on Windows 7, and you basically have to force a full VB 6 runtime install on there and hope it all works when Win 7 is finally released. On the bright side those developers who have walked away from VB and are using .NET technologies should be good to go. Rail Racer current demo worked fine on Windows 7 once you installed a copy of the managed DirectX libraries and .NET Framework 1.1. The 3D Volocity game by BPC Programs also worked ok. All of the USA Games products are being made Windows 7 ready. Beyond that have fun installing and fiddling with VB 6 libraries trying to get them to run properly. Trenton Matthews wrote: Just wait til Windows Seven comes out. Not liking the results for it. By the way, I hear the Windows Seven start up sound is quite strange. From a gaming perspective, has anyone tried Windows Seven beta with any of the blind friendly games out there yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 gaming was gamebooks of Arborell
Hi Shaun, I know. I use Winkit all of the time for fixing the broken VB 6 installs on my Vista system. The point I was trying to make is by and large Microsoft has cleaned out most of the libraries that most audio games need by default. I think it is possible to get them running by tracking down the missing dependancies and installing them on Windows 7. On the other hand the pre-beta copy I have installed on my test box looks promising in other areas. Some say it runs faster than Vista, but I put the system requirements generally about the same. If you have an up to date 3 GHZ system and 1 GB of Ram running Vista Windows 7 will run great on that box. Install it on a 1 GHZ system with 512 MB of RAM and it runs, but not as well as XP under the same conditions. Though it is a slight improvement over Vista. The big change my wife tells me is the graphics technology looks a lot smoother and natural. It also does cool things like making other windows invisible when you open a new window. Instead of that stupid sidebar seen in Vista the gadgets are now on the desktop and are actually easier to get to with Window Eyes 7.01. The thing I really like about the Windows 7 pre-beta is I can fully customize the heck out of user account control. Under Vista whatever settings MS gave you were pretty much stuck with. They finally listened to somebody and now you can configure your security level for user account control to let applications and other things through that Vista won't let you do. One of them is allowing games to save to their install directories instead of locally to your user account. Amen! shaun everiss wrote: well the winkit zipfile jim kitchen has has most of what you need. I have the complete vb6sp6 runtimes on me to. I also have the complete sapi 5.1 systems to, though realspeak has everything to. At 08:52 a.m. 30/12/2008, you wrote: Hi Trenton, Yes, I have. I did manage to get ahold of the Windows 7 early beta and things are not looking too good for the majority of accessible games. The Windows 7 beta release I tested did not ship with any VB 6 support at all natively. That means the majority of the accessible games out there from GMA, Jim Kitchen, BSC, L-Works, DanZ Games, and so on are not going to work out of the box with Windows 7. I'm sorry to say unless those developers are willing to put the time and money into going to something like VB .NET. Those games are going to be difficult to get running on Windows 7, and you basically have to force a full VB 6 runtime install on there and hope it all works when Win 7 is finally released. On the bright side those developers who have walked away from VB and are using .NET technologies should be good to go. Rail Racer current demo worked fine on Windows 7 once you installed a copy of the managed DirectX libraries and .NET Framework 1.1. The 3D Volocity game by BPC Programs also worked ok. All of the USA Games products are being made Windows 7 ready. Beyond that have fun installing and fiddling with VB 6 libraries trying to get them to run properly. Trenton Matthews wrote: Just wait til Windows Seven comes out. Not liking the results for it. By the way, I hear the Windows Seven start up sound is quite strange. From a gaming perspective, has anyone tried Windows Seven beta with any of the blind friendly games out there yet? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.