Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 gaming was gamebooks of Arborell

2008-12-30 Thread shaun everiss
well thats good news.
I think hardware wise I should be set then.
At 04:50 p.m. 30/12/2008, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
I know. I use Winkit all of the time for fixing the broken VB 6 installs on my 
Vista system. The point I was trying to make is by and large Microsoft has 
cleaned out most of the libraries that most audio games need by default. I 
think it is possible to get them running by tracking down the missing 
dependancies and installing them on Windows 7.
On the other hand the pre-beta copy I have installed on my test box looks 
promising in other areas. Some say it runs faster than Vista, but I put the 
system requirements generally about the same. If you have an up to date 3 GHZ 
system and 1 GB of Ram running Vista Windows 7 will run great on that box. 
Install it on a 1 GHZ system with 512 MB of RAM and it runs, but not as well 
as XP under the same conditions. Though it is a slight improvement over Vista.
The big change my wife tells me is the graphics technology looks a lot 
smoother and natural. It also does cool things like making other windows 
invisible when you open a new window. Instead of that stupid sidebar seen in 
Vista the gadgets are now on the desktop and are actually easier to get to 
with Window Eyes 7.01.
The thing I really like about the Windows 7 pre-beta is I can fully customize 
the heck out of user account control. Under Vista whatever settings MS gave 
you were pretty much stuck with. They finally listened to somebody and now you 
can configure your security level for user account control  to let 
applications and other things through that Vista won't let you do. One of them 
is allowing games to save to their install directories instead of locally to 
your user account. Amen!





shaun everiss wrote:
well the winkit zipfile jim kitchen has has most of what you need.
I have the complete vb6sp6 runtimes on me to.
I also have the complete sapi 5.1 systems to, though realspeak has everything 
to.
At 08:52 a.m. 30/12/2008, you wrote:
Hi Trenton,
Yes, I have. I did manage to get ahold of the Windows 7 early beta and 
things are not looking too good for the majority of accessible games. The 
Windows 7 beta release I tested did not ship with any VB 6 support at all 
natively. That means the majority of the accessible games out there from 
GMA, Jim Kitchen, BSC, L-Works, DanZ Games, and so on are not going to work 
out of the box with Windows 7. I'm sorry to say unless those developers are 
willing to put the time and money into going to something like VB .NET. 
Those games are going to be difficult to get running on Windows 7, and you 
basically have to force a full VB 6 runtime install on there and hope it all 
works when Win 7 is finally released.
On the bright side those developers who have walked away from VB and are 
using .NET technologies should be good to go. Rail Racer current demo worked 
fine on Windows 7 once you installed a copy of the managed DirectX libraries 
and .NET Framework 1.1. The 3D Volocity game by BPC Programs also worked ok. 
All of the USA Games products are being made Windows 7 ready. Beyond that 
have fun installing and fiddling with VB 6 libraries trying to get them to 
run properly.




Trenton Matthews wrote:
Just wait til Windows Seven comes out.
Not liking the results for it. By the way, I hear the Windows Seven start 
up sound is quite strange.
From a gaming perspective, has anyone tried Windows Seven beta with any of 
the blind friendly games out there yet?

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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 gaming was gamebooks of Arborell

2008-12-29 Thread Trenton Matthews

Thanks for letting me know about that.
I wonder if Draconis Entertaiment will be making their games Windows 7 
compatible starting in 2009 as well.



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Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 12:52 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Windows 7 gaming was gamebooks of Arborell


Hi Trenton,
Yes, I have. I did manage to get ahold of the Windows 7 early beta and 
things are not looking too good for the majority of accessible games. The 
Windows 7 beta release I tested did not ship with any VB 6 support at all 
natively. That means the majority of the accessible games out there from 
GMA, Jim Kitchen, BSC, L-Works, DanZ Games, and so on are not going to 
work out of the box with Windows 7. I'm sorry to say unless those 
developers are willing to put the time and money into going to something 
like VB .NET. Those games are going to be difficult to get running on 
Windows 7, and you basically have to force a full VB 6 runtime install on 
there and hope it all works when Win 7 is finally released.
On the bright side those developers who have walked away from VB and are 
using .NET technologies should be good to go. Rail Racer current demo 
worked fine on Windows 7 once you installed a copy of the managed DirectX 
libraries and .NET Framework 1.1. The 3D Volocity game by BPC Programs 
also worked ok. All of the USA Games products are being made Windows 7 
ready. Beyond that have fun installing and fiddling with VB 6 libraries 
trying to get them to run properly.





Trenton Matthews wrote:

Just wait til Windows Seven comes out.
Not liking the results for it. By the way, I hear the Windows Seven start 
up sound is quite strange.
From a gaming perspective, has anyone tried Windows Seven beta with any 
of

the blind friendly games out there yet?



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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 gaming was gamebooks of Arborell

2008-12-29 Thread shaun everiss
well the winkit zipfile jim kitchen has has most of what you need.
I have the complete vb6sp6 runtimes on me to.
I also have the complete sapi 5.1 systems to, though realspeak has everything 
to.
At 08:52 a.m. 30/12/2008, you wrote:
Hi Trenton,
Yes, I have. I did manage to get ahold of the Windows 7 early beta and things 
are not looking too good for the majority of accessible games. The Windows 7 
beta release I tested did not ship with any VB 6 support at all natively. That 
means the majority of the accessible games out there from GMA, Jim Kitchen, 
BSC, L-Works, DanZ Games, and so on are not going to work out of the box with 
Windows 7. I'm sorry to say unless those developers are willing to put the 
time and money into going to something like VB .NET. Those games are going to 
be difficult to get running on Windows 7, and you basically have to force a 
full VB 6 runtime install on there and hope it all works when Win 7 is finally 
released.
On the bright side those developers who have walked away from VB and are using 
.NET technologies should be good to go. Rail Racer current demo worked fine on 
Windows 7 once you installed a copy of the managed DirectX libraries and .NET 
Framework 1.1. The 3D Volocity game by BPC Programs also worked ok. All of the 
USA Games products are being made Windows 7 ready. Beyond that have fun 
installing and fiddling with VB 6 libraries trying to get them to run properly.




Trenton Matthews wrote:
Just wait til Windows Seven comes out.
Not liking the results for it. By the way, I hear the Windows Seven start up 
sound is quite strange.
From a gaming perspective, has anyone tried Windows Seven beta with any of 
the blind friendly games out there yet?


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Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 gaming was gamebooks of Arborell

2008-12-29 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Shaun,
I know. I use Winkit all of the time for fixing the broken VB 6 installs 
on my Vista system. The point I was trying to make is by and large 
Microsoft has cleaned out most of the libraries that most audio games 
need by default. I think it is possible to get them running by tracking 
down the missing dependancies and installing them on Windows 7.
On the other hand the pre-beta copy I have installed on my test box 
looks promising in other areas. Some say it runs faster than Vista, but 
I put the system requirements generally about the same. If you have an 
up to date 3 GHZ system and 1 GB of Ram running Vista Windows 7 will run 
great on that box. Install it on a 1 GHZ system with 512 MB of RAM and 
it runs, but not as well as XP under the same conditions. Though it is a 
slight improvement over Vista.
The big change my wife tells me is the graphics technology looks a lot 
smoother and natural. It also does cool things like making other windows 
invisible when you open a new window. Instead of that stupid sidebar 
seen in Vista the gadgets are now on the desktop and are actually easier 
to get to with Window Eyes 7.01.
The thing I really like about the Windows 7 pre-beta is I can fully 
customize the heck out of user account control. Under Vista whatever 
settings MS gave you were pretty much stuck with. They finally listened 
to somebody and now you can configure your security level for user 
account control  to let applications and other things through that Vista 
won't let you do. One of them is allowing games to save to their install 
directories instead of locally to your user account. Amen!






shaun everiss wrote:

well the winkit zipfile jim kitchen has has most of what you need.
I have the complete vb6sp6 runtimes on me to.
I also have the complete sapi 5.1 systems to, though realspeak has everything 
to.
At 08:52 a.m. 30/12/2008, you wrote:

Hi Trenton,
Yes, I have. I did manage to get ahold of the Windows 7 early beta and things 
are not looking too good for the majority of accessible games. The Windows 7 
beta release I tested did not ship with any VB 6 support at all natively. That 
means the majority of the accessible games out there from GMA, Jim Kitchen, 
BSC, L-Works, DanZ Games, and so on are not going to work out of the box with 
Windows 7. I'm sorry to say unless those developers are willing to put the time 
and money into going to something like VB .NET. Those games are going to be 
difficult to get running on Windows 7, and you basically have to force a full 
VB 6 runtime install on there and hope it all works when Win 7 is finally 
released.
On the bright side those developers who have walked away from VB and are using 
.NET technologies should be good to go. Rail Racer current demo worked fine on 
Windows 7 once you installed a copy of the managed DirectX libraries and .NET 
Framework 1.1. The 3D Volocity game by BPC Programs also worked ok. All of the 
USA Games products are being made Windows 7 ready. Beyond that have fun 
installing and fiddling with VB 6 libraries trying to get them to run properly.




Trenton Matthews wrote:

Just wait til Windows Seven comes out.
Not liking the results for it. By the way, I hear the Windows Seven start up 
sound is quite strange.
From a gaming perspective, has anyone tried Windows Seven beta with any of 
the blind friendly games out there yet?


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