Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-05 Thread jason
. your friend, Jason known as Blind Fury - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Hi Jason, I am writing this so Thomas doesn't have

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread jason
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review thats one thing I don't want. I doubt I will upgrade. Saying that the windows midi synth is just a half cock roland synth, I have a yamaha xg old synth and a old vsc roland synth. So maybe that part

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread jason
that helps you my friend. your friend, Blind Fury - Original Message - From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review It's gone? Incredible! I'm never upgrading to Vista. Does

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread jason
be able to help you with your question about the recorder. your friend, Blind Fury - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Hi Damien

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread jason
- Original Message - From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review so does this mean that when we buy a new pc we'll have to reformat it, and put xp on it if we want

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread jason
, February 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Hi, What about using total recorder? Would that work? Or, we could all email microsoft and tell them to put it back in. Josh ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jason, Agreed. We shouldn't jump to absolute conclusion about Vista just yet. Things could change in a later service pack or Windows update. We are talking about an os barely a month old, and things are bound to come up which needs smoothing out that could t take a few months to work out.

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread Josh
@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Welll josh good luck on not upgrading for 4 years I still don't know if the internet would work with in those 4 years since everyone is upgrading to Bista. Microsoft won't make an new updates after

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread Josh
go to www.totalrecorder.com to get total recorder. Josh - Original Message - From: jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Hello Josh, where can you find total

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread Yohandy
@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Hello Thomas I hope the feature is added myself I usually like recording things on to the computer at times so maybe your right maybe they didn't come out with the next feature the only solution I can give

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread Charles Rivard
The Internet will still work. It's the machines trying to gain access that may be not working. - Original Message - From: jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread Che
Message - From: jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Helllo Everybody why don't we just wait instead of jumping to conclusions that these features for your mixers won't

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-03 Thread Che
- Original Message - From: jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Helllo Everybody why don't we just wait instead of jumping to conclusions that these features for your mixers won't

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-02 Thread jason
Hello Thomas thank you for telling us about your observation of Windows Vista. It gives me a better idea what I need for upgrading my system in my computer. It also gives me a better idea how to visualize the program as a totally blind user. Please keep giving us updates on your observation

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-02 Thread jason
friend, Blind Fury - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Bullis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Hi Matthew, Yes, the What You Hear option

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-02 Thread Josh
Hi, I won't be getting vista for awhile. Jaws, although it works with vista, still has some major problems that I want worked out before I upgrade. I'll be sticking with xp for a few years. And if a new computer that I buy comes with vista I'll reformat and put xp on it. Josh

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-02 Thread aaron danvers-jukes
but if what you hear is gone, then how are you going to record your game trailors for usa games! regards, aaron ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-03-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Aaron, That is a good question. I haven't decided how to go about it under vista, but my desktop isn't the only computer here. I still have a computer running Ubuntu Linux, and my laptop running Windows XP SP2. For the time being I will likely do the trailers on the laptop until I find a

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-28 Thread shaun everiss
well it depends what code ms is going to release. Speaking of which they are already writing a service pack so who knows, maybe that will fix stuff. Almost on the day they released vista ms decides to do another pack for release at the end of the year. I suspect that when vista came out it was

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-28 Thread damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive
gaaarr! that'll be bad for me too. regards, damien - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Hi Damien, On the system I

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-28 Thread Josh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Hi Shaun, I am certain Microsoft will offer XP with SP3 disks, but they will likely turn out to be like Win 2000. You'll be able to buy

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Yeah, if you want XP you'll have to do that, but keep in mind you will have to locate drivers for the new hardware for XP which could be an issue if the hardware was designed primarily for Vista and beyond. Not saying that will happen, but could happen. Josh wrote: so does this mean

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-28 Thread shaun everiss
: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Hi Shaun, I am certain Microsoft will offer XP with SP3 disks, but they will likely turn out to be like Win 2000. You'll be able

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, As long as XP remains in the tech support cycle at Microsoft most hardware vender's will offer compatible driver cds either with the product or for download from the support sites. I can certainly understand your reservations about Vista, but my experience has been more appositive

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-28 Thread Josh
me neither. I won't upgrade either with the stuff I have heard on here. Josh - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review the thing

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-28 Thread shaun everiss
true, but I have recieved a mixed bag of things. Vista has best of good and the worst of bad. I don't need to upgrade because everything at the moment is all stable and nice. Although if vista improves I will upgrade just for the speech recognition alone as I've been contemplating buying draggon,

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-28 Thread Michael Maslo
Thomas: Does vista let you use wireless connection to a wireless modem? ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael, I haven't tested wireless stuff under Vista yet, but I don't see anyreason why not. I imagine how far you go depends on driver support. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Che
Hey Thomas, Thanks for that in depth article on Vista, that is something I am sure lots of blind computer users will be very interested in reading. your attention to grammar and cutting to the chase is very much appreciated from this reader as well. If you would be interested in hosting

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Che, Yeah, the VIP Conduit and other blind programs would be nice. I think Vista has changed allot and blind users should get a look at it before deciding to upgrade. This isn't something you just jump on without knowing a little about it. I mean just getting around the new default

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Matthew Bullis
For me, I would want to make sure that the audio things I can do now in XP can still be done. I heard that we won't have the what you hear option in the sound card anymore, and also that we can't drop to DOS anymore. There's one program which never got made into a Windows version, which is

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread shaun everiss
I'd be interested in the ins and outs to. I like my wave mixers as they are. although I do not use dos programs I do use console bassed programs ocationally. At 08:50 a.m. 28/02/2007, you wrote: For me, I would want to make sure that the audio things I can do now in XP can still be done. I heard

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Matthew, Yes, the What You Hear option is gone. apparently, Microsoft felt that the feature was being used or abused to illegally copy sound content when it was played over a sound card and recorded. As a result a feature I liked was taken out. The new mixer I have only offers line in and

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Josh
Hi, Since the what you hear option is gone, does that mean total recorder will not work in vista? Josh ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive
Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matthew Bullis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Hi Matthew, Yes, the What You Hear option is gone. apparently, Microsoft felt that the feature

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Josh
Hi, What about using total recorder? Would that work? Or, we could all email microsoft and tell them to put it back in. Josh ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Yohandy
- Original Message - From: damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review so if the waveout/stereo mix/what you hear options

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive
i don't think microsoft will listen to 200 of 200 people that may use it. regards, damien - Original Message - From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Josh
Then the only other solution is for someone to write software to get around it then. Josh ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Josh
But even though it's gone, won't someone write software to get around it? Josh ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, As I have never tried Total Recorder I can't say weather or not it works. I'd say based on what I have seen you are limited to the microphone and line in jacks at this point for recording. Josh wrote: Hi, Since the what you hear option is gone, does that mean total recorder will

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, On the system I installed Vista to there is no way to record from the wave out mix as before. The only way I can see that one could record game reviews or other content like that is via a microphone, or use XP on a separate computer to do it. Now, I am not sure weather this is do the

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Yohandy, It would appear to be so. I have checked my Vista mixer settings twice and the only recording devices supported and or available is the line in jack and the microphone. No others midi, wave out mix, etc is even listed. That is going to hurt game reviews and podcasts I think. As for

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, No, they aren't likely to. My guess it will return if enough normal, (sighted users,) complain about it, and want it back. damien c. sadler - head of x-sight interactive wrote: i don't think microsoft will listen to 200 of 200 people that may use it. regards, damien

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Perhaps, but with Vista's DRM, (digital rights management,) and strict control over the hardware it is probably less likely to do that. Vista is a control freque when it comes to managing it's hardware and sharing access with any unknown outside party. I use to think 2000 and XP were

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread shaun everiss
- Original Message - From: Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review Hi, What about using total recorder? Would that work? Or, we could all email microsoft and tell

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread shaun everiss
what about the service packs for xp, i presume ms will sell xp with the latest sp3 and later sp4? At 07:16 p.m. 28/02/2007, you wrote: Hi Yohandy, It would appear to be so. I have checked my Vista mixer settings twice and the only recording devices supported and or available is the line in jack

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread shaun everiss
thats one thing I don't want. I doubt I will upgrade. Saying that the windows midi synth is just a half cock roland synth, I have a yamaha xg old synth and a old vsc roland synth. So maybe that part will not be so bad. At 07:05 p.m. 28/02/2007, you wrote: Hi Damien, On the system I installed

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, I am certain Microsoft will offer XP with SP3 disks, but they will likely turn out to be like Win 2000. You'll be able to buy them to upgrade existing XP and 2000 systems, but all new PCS from Gateway, Del, HP, Compaq, etc will be shipping with Vista. shaun everiss wrote: what about

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Well, one tthought that comes to mind is perhaps just writing a better device driver for said sound card with that support is one option. Either that of if someone could make a mixer device option for the mixer All hard to say at this point. shaun everiss wrote: I have heard that

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread Matthew Bullis
Perhaps you could install two sound cards, and have one card grab the output audio from the other card. Matthew ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit

Re: [Audyssey] Windows Vista In Review

2007-02-27 Thread shaun everiss
just as well I have xp disks for the systems I have. At 08:22 p.m. 28/02/2007, you wrote: Hi Shaun, I am certain Microsoft will offer XP with SP3 disks, but they will likely turn out to be like Win 2000. You'll be able to buy them to upgrade existing XP and 2000 systems, but all new PCS from