Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future?
I like the idea of using sound and graphics, so the games can be played by everyone, whether they are blind or sighted. The problem is though that games can be hard to make when you start including both sound and graphics. Audio games are pretty easy to make, but you've got more work to do with making the graphics move and stuff. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Mike Reiser Sent: 17 October 2010 23:22 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future? I have entoombed and love it, however I want something more first person, more real time based and not turn based. Mike --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future?
I must admit I appreciate audio games with graphics, sinse I can play them much as I do most everything else in my life, with a combination of things. thus far though, while some games such as the gma engine, time of conflict and sound rts have minimal, reference type graphics, these are not even up to nes standard, though as these are intended as audio games anyway and the graphics are merely an extra add on I don't particularly mind, nor do i expect full and complete graphics. the only audio games I know with total graphics support are those from code factory, which use cartoony type graphics and highlighted menues, and of course Terraformers, which imho does the best job of audio graphical fusion (there's a mention of my remarks on this on their web page). but graphics programmming is it's own artform, requires as much, if not more work than audio sound design, and probably increases developement time and trouble of any game by a factor of ten! I'm not saying that it's impossible for an audio game to have useable graphics, obviously terraformers proved the point, only that it would take a huge amount of extra work. Pluss of course, I actually think some audio games get a lot out of being just audio, such as the atmospherics in shades of doom, or the exploration aspect of packman. I actually find audio packman far more fun to play than graphical packman, sinse rather than seeing the hole maze and running around it, you only get to know the part of the maze immediately around you, and must use memory and logic as well as quick reflexes. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future?
Hi Harmony, Definitely. Adding graphics is a huge time and expense most VI game developers could afford. Plus graphics programming requires a lot of mathematical skill. If someone isn't very good at geometry, trig, and calculus you can pretty much forget doing any kind of graphics programming. To say nothing of the fact someone needs to actually draw the images etc that are to be rendered on screen etc. Even when someone such as myself has the skill I don't necessarily have the extra time it takes to do a full blown vidio game justice. On 10/18/10, Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com wrote: I like the idea of using sound and graphics, so the games can be played by everyone, whether they are blind or sighted. The problem is though that games can be hard to make when you start including both sound and graphics. Audio games are pretty easy to make, but you've got more work to do with making the graphics move and stuff. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future?
Know what you mean. I'm all right at drawing, but don't have access to a photocopier etc in order to put the pictures on computer, so I'll just have to stick to the audio for now if I decide to make any games. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 18 October 2010 20:10 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future? Hi Harmony, Definitely. Adding graphics is a huge time and expense most VI game developers could afford. Plus graphics programming requires a lot of mathematical skill. If someone isn't very good at geometry, trig, and calculus you can pretty much forget doing any kind of graphics programming. To say nothing of the fact someone needs to actually draw the images etc that are to be rendered on screen etc. Even when someone such as myself has the skill I don't necessarily have the extra time it takes to do a full blown vidio game justice. On 10/18/10, Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com wrote: I like the idea of using sound and graphics, so the games can be played by everyone, whether they are blind or sighted. The problem is though that games can be hard to make when you start including both sound and graphics. Audio games are pretty easy to make, but you've got more work to do with making the graphics move and stuff. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future?
Hi Harmony, Well, as far as I know most graphics designers don't scan images into the computer. They typically use some high priced drawing software to draw trains, cars, jets, whatever and then save the images on the system. After they have all the images created the developer can use something like OpenGL or Direct3D to render them on screen and blend the various images together to make realtime animation. Cheers! On 10/18/10, Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com wrote: Know what you mean. I'm all right at drawing, but don't have access to a photocopier etc in order to put the pictures on computer, so I'll just have to stick to the audio for now if I decide to make any games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future?
Oh true. I haven't seen any drawing programs out there that are accessible to be honest. I tried using paint but didn't get very far. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 18 October 2010 20:30 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future? Hi Harmony, Well, as far as I know most graphics designers don't scan images into the computer. They typically use some high priced drawing software to draw trains, cars, jets, whatever and then save the images on the system. After they have all the images created the developer can use something like OpenGL or Direct3D to render them on screen and blend the various images together to make realtime animation. Cheers! On 10/18/10, Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com wrote: Know what you mean. I'm all right at drawing, but don't have access to a photocopier etc in order to put the pictures on computer, so I'll just have to stick to the audio for now if I decide to make any games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future?
For a good RPG I'd have to recommend Entombed by Driftwood. It can be found at http://www.blind-games.com Think That's the right one. Ron - Original Message - From: Chastity MORSE chastitymo...@msn.com To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] re- to all developers,possible games to consider for the future? Mike, I totally agree! Halo and Call of Duty would be great and they would need to probably be rpg onlines or browser based at the least. I haven't found a dungeons and dragons that was very accessible either. As for Oregon Trial, that would be excellent if someone would think of doing this one. Yes, it was a kids game, but still neat to play and with realistic sounds like the wagon and horses, guns shooting, raiders and indians attacking and everything, it would be great. Still probably need text in there to let you know your supply, money, and people status though. I might include bow and arrows in the weapons and fishing for more of a food supply. Anyone into dominoes? That one might be fairly easy to produce, similar to the card games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future?
I have entoombed and love it, however I want something more first person, more real time based and not turn based. Mike --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future?
Once again, Azabat have a dominoes game I believe. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Chastity MORSE chastitymo...@msn.com To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] re- to all developers,possible games to consider for the future? Mike, I totally agree! Halo and Call of Duty would be great and they would need to probably be rpg onlines or browser based at the least. I haven't found a dungeons and dragons that was very accessible either. As for Oregon Trial, that would be excellent if someone would think of doing this one. Yes, it was a kids game, but still neat to play and with realistic sounds like the wagon and horses, guns shooting, raiders and indians attacking and everything, it would be great. Still probably need text in there to let you know your supply, money, and people status though. I might include bow and arrows in the weapons and fishing for more of a food supply. Anyone into dominoes? That one might be fairly easy to produce, similar to the card games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] re- to all developers, possible games to consider for the future?
Hi Mike, Well, USA Games are definitely working towards that end. Once we get the engine operational we will be able to build quite a lot of real time FPS type games like Halo, Call to Duty, Jedi Knight, Resident Evil, and anything else in that style. After all, that's what Genesis 3D is all about. Smile. On 10/17/10, Mike Reiser blindgu...@gmail.com wrote: I have entoombed and love it, however I want something more first person, more real time based and not turn based. Mike --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
