Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
How evil! And, what a waste of good garlic butter! --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? Well it doesn't annoy me in the And for this crime you shal be hung head downwards by the toes in a vat of extremely garlic butter, while latest boy band music is pumped eternally into your ears, and inexpert acupuncture practitioners practice all their vile arts upon your quivering carcus sort of way, - it just peeves me a bit that people don't appreciate the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
LOL...I get where your coming from and your right. People sometimes don't really appreciate the work and effort put into those games. al - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? Well it doesn't annoy me in the And for this crime you shal be hung head downwards by the toes in a vat of extremely garlic butter, while latest boy band music is pumped eternally into your ears, and inexpert acupuncture practitioners practice all their vile arts upon your quivering carcus sort of way, - it just peeves me a bit that people don't appreciate the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Hi, I view cheats as a way to reward a gamer for completing a game, or reaching to a certain challenging level. For instance, some games don't let you activate cheats until you have beaten it once. After you beat it, the point of cheats are to let you have fun--bigger bombs, invincibility to see how fast you can run through a level, etc. Sonic for Sega had a cheat where you could fly through levels. I didn't find it to be cheating--just a fun way to beat a game. Since most games require you to pull off a challening taks like press several buttons rapidly in the case of some Mortal Kombat cheats, it's soemthing you have worked for and thus should be able to enjoy. True that some games introduce cheats which started out as simple flags allowing a developer to skip around in their game, but when it comes to letting the player activate that flag we make ti much more difficult than, say, tdv /skiplevel. Munawar A. Bijani Knowledge is of two types: absorbed and heard. The heard knowledge is only useful if it is absorbed. - Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib, Nahj Al-Balagha mailto:munaw...@gmail.com http://www.bpcprograms.com - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? Hi Charles, Personally as a gamer I enjoy using cheats sometimes, particularly if I've already beaten the game and want to abuse it a little. It's pretty much just to see how far you can stretch the boundries of it, if that makes any sense? And from a programming perspective, they're great fun. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:54 AM Subject: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? I know that programmers and testers use cheat codes so that they can test certain aspects of games before they are sold or given to the public, but why do you, as a gamer, use them? After all, it's cheating. I ask this to see what answers I get. --- In God we trust! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.60/2495 - Release Date: 11/10/09 19:56:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Hi Dark, Personally, I think cheat codes should only be generated after the player has completed the game normally first. One reason I feel that way is for the fact there are those types of cheaters who never play a game without cheat codes, and have the audacity to say the game was too easy, boring, whatever. Even though the game was not intended to be played that way to begin with. Such types should be forced to fight for their cheat codes which could be offered as a type of reward for playing it once through normally. dark wrote: i personally use cheat codes more in mainstream games than in audio games, and usually either to compensate for a sight problem, or lack of a particular feature. I for instance use level select or skip codes in many Snes games to serve the function that passwords and saves serve later, ie, letting me start from the same level i died on. I've never done this in an audio game though, sinse audiogames are usually either pre-built with save features, or so short as to make them unnecessary. In mainstream games I also sometimes use unlimited time cheats because it takes longer to view the screen for me, --- but again, this doesn't apply in audio games. I sometimes like cheat weapon codes for novelty, especially when that weapon is a weerd one which doesn't appear in the game, though I usually complete the game streight first, and I prefer such weapon codes to be given as a secret after I've completed the game normally like the flamethrower in pipe2. I haven't met an audio game that I've actively desired a cheat for, sinse most have sufficiently balanced difficulty and saving features for me not to want one, though I enjoy them as an ulockable reward or something to play with later on. The only time I'd say cheats are a really bad thing, is when people just put in an infinite lives or energy cheat and skim right through from end to end, then shelve the game and never play it again. Cheat codes however, are good for people who are frustrated with a given game and when the choice is cheat or forget it, cheating is better. I've done that myself in both mainstream games and some interactive fiction titles with impossible puzles. Just my thoughts here, anyone is free to disagree. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Hi Al, Hahaha. I love your description of cheat code based play, and in many ways it is apt. The whole point of cheat codes is, I think, it is a way to get some amusement or added fun out of the game. As long as the person doesn't take them too seriously they can be used to create some fun and rather interesting games that goes above and beyond reality. You can think of it as a cheap thrill. Imagine for a moment playing Tank Commander and suddenly you pull out this cheat code that allows you to have shields and add unlimited phasers to your tank. Hear all of these tanks are lobbing shells at you which bounce off your deflector shields you fire phaser blast after phaser blast into the enemy tanks vaporising them one by one. It is a completely ridiculous situation, very unrealistic, but it has its own sort of sick sense of humor. It isn't all what you would call serious game play, but might be amusing or of interest to some gamer out there. For my part I can just imagine the enemies reaction to such an obvious cheat. Ok, we got him now. Move in for the kill. What the... Hey, weapons are doing no damage. We are getting our butts seriously kicked. Holy crap! Bang! Boom! pow! Allan Thompson wrote: Hi, Cheat codes are fun, pure and simple. However, they are a diffrent kind of fun. I would compare the purist method of play versus the cheat type of play like this. In the first, you are playing a game of chess against an intelligent equal, in the second, you are playing chess against a monkey. The first game is serious, challenges your skills, causes you to learn an improve. When you win, if you win, you feel satisfied in the victory. Then there is the monkey game. You turn your pawn into a tank, and destroy the monkeys rooks with a photon torpedo. The monkey don't care, and neither do you. No seriousness, no brain drain, no putting way too much effort and time into what amounts to a bit of electricity pushing around little bits of electronic nothingness. You flameThrower the monkeys queen, he don't care, he's a monkey, and you don't care, cause you got this awesome flameThrower and you are blowing those monkeys pieces to kingdom come!! It is all fun, just diffrent. So I like cheat codes. I don't look down on anyone who does use cheat codes because if they are willing to download it, or buy it, they are more then entitled to play the heck out of that game anyway they please without me judging them. They aren't worse players or people for it, they aren't better, just diffrent. That is the crux. Cheat codes are not an insight into a persons moral quality or life attitude. It is just a game, they are just getting some enjoyment until they have to go back to life, and the world keeps spinning. Besides...I like monkeys. People get all upset when you use a flameThrower on their chess pieces, grin. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
that'd be interesting to see. and how about a warp drive instead of the engine... lol. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? Hi Al, Hahaha. I love your description of cheat code based play, and in many ways it is apt. The whole point of cheat codes is, I think, it is a way to get some amusement or added fun out of the game. As long as the person doesn't take them too seriously they can be used to create some fun and rather interesting games that goes above and beyond reality. You can think of it as a cheap thrill. Imagine for a moment playing Tank Commander and suddenly you pull out this cheat code that allows you to have shields and add unlimited phasers to your tank. Hear all of these tanks are lobbing shells at you which bounce off your deflector shields you fire phaser blast after phaser blast into the enemy tanks vaporising them one by one. It is a completely ridiculous situation, very unrealistic, but it has its own sort of sick sense of humor. It isn't all what you would call serious game play, but might be amusing or of interest to some gamer out there. For my part I can just imagine the enemies reaction to such an obvious cheat. Ok, we got him now. Move in for the kill. What the... Hey, weapons are doing no damage. We are getting our butts seriously kicked. Holy crap! Bang! Boom! pow! Allan Thompson wrote: Hi, Cheat codes are fun, pure and simple. However, they are a diffrent kind of fun. I would compare the purist method of play versus the cheat type of play like this. In the first, you are playing a game of chess against an intelligent equal, in the second, you are playing chess against a monkey. The first game is serious, challenges your skills, causes you to learn an improve. When you win, if you win, you feel satisfied in the victory. Then there is the monkey game. You turn your pawn into a tank, and destroy the monkeys rooks with a photon torpedo. The monkey don't care, and neither do you. No seriousness, no brain drain, no putting way too much effort and time into what amounts to a bit of electricity pushing around little bits of electronic nothingness. You flameThrower the monkeys queen, he don't care, he's a monkey, and you don't care, cause you got this awesome flameThrower and you are blowing those monkeys pieces to kingdom come!! It is all fun, just diffrent. So I like cheat codes. I don't look down on anyone who does use cheat codes because if they are willing to download it, or buy it, they are more then entitled to play the heck out of that game anyway they please without me judging them. They aren't worse players or people for it, they aren't better, just diffrent. That is the crux. Cheat codes are not an insight into a persons moral quality or life attitude. It is just a game, they are just getting some enjoyment until they have to go back to life, and the world keeps spinning. Besides...I like monkeys. People get all upset when you use a flameThrower on their chess pieces, grin. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4333 (20090813) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4333 (20090813) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Hi Dark, That's actually the reason I don't offer cheat codes in my games. I want people to appreciate my games as they are intended to be played. I generally take my game play seriously so see no need to add special hints and cheats into the games. I do, however, recognise the type of humor factor Al and others are talking about where cheat codes give you extra powers, weapons, that gives you a godlike advantage in a game such as Al's concept of whipping out a flame thrower in a chess game and rosting a few enemy chess pieces. It is funny, but the kind of humor that gets old real fast. It loses its charm after you play a couple of games like that. It is nothing more and nothing less than a cheap thrill. dark wrote: Well it doesn't annoy me in the And for this crime you shal be hung head downwards by the toes in a vat of extremely garlic butter, while latest boy band music is pumped eternally into your ears, and inexpert acupuncture practitioners practice all their vile arts upon your quivering carcus sort of way, - it just peeves me a bit that people don't appreciate the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Hi Scott, You wrote: Tom: Dark Forces and Jedi Knight were both killer games! I also used to use the invincibility cheats to quell rage, on particularly grim days I might've done the same thing during the one on one duals in Jedi Knight just for the luxury of it lol. My response: Yeah, they were really cool games. Jedi Knight was especially fun, because you weren't restricted to being a good guy. There were several points in the story line where Kyle Katern could turn to the dark side and pick up some extra dark side force powers such as force lightning. I obviously got a cheap thrill, especially when angry, out of frying enemies with force lightning. The cheatcodes made it that much more interesting as you could walk through storm troopers, probe droids, darkJedi, etc without taking ascratch. You were in effect a god with Jedi powers. Jedi Knight II wasn't as flexable in terms of picking sides and so on. After level 3 Mara Jade was the main character of Jedi Knight II, and despite her Syth origins Lucas Arts made Mara strictly a straight Jedi where Kyle Katern turns to the dark side and must be defeated by Mara Jade in the Syth temple at the end of the game. Although, the evil Mara Clone on level 11 was pretty cool. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
LOL...Tom, you just reminded me of something hilarious. I hope you have seen Star Trek: The wrath of Khan. If you had, do you remember when Khan first encountered Kirk's ship? Khan got some good shots in and crippled the enterprise, and then when Kirk surrendered, Khan offered freedom for his ship and crew if Kirk transmitted him all the information about the genesis project. So what does Kirk do? He has Spock read him some numbers, he inputs them in and transmits. These numbers cause Khan's ship to drop all shields and Kirk opens fire. I can't believe I am going to say this, but Captain James T Kirk uses Cheat Codes!! cheezy grin. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Exactly. People like that set my teeth on edge. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? Hi Dark, Personally, I think cheat codes should only be generated after the player has completed the game normally first. One reason I feel that way is for the fact there are those types of cheaters who never play a game without cheat codes, and have the audacity to say the game was too easy, boring, whatever. Even though the game was not intended to be played that way to begin with. Such types should be forced to fight for their cheat codes which could be offered as a type of reward for playing it once through normally. dark wrote: i personally use cheat codes more in mainstream games than in audio games, and usually either to compensate for a sight problem, or lack of a particular feature. I for instance use level select or skip codes in many Snes games to serve the function that passwords and saves serve later, ie, letting me start from the same level i died on. I've never done this in an audio game though, sinse audiogames are usually either pre-built with save features, or so short as to make them unnecessary. In mainstream games I also sometimes use unlimited time cheats because it takes longer to view the screen for me, --- but again, this doesn't apply in audio games. I sometimes like cheat weapon codes for novelty, especially when that weapon is a weerd one which doesn't appear in the game, though I usually complete the game streight first, and I prefer such weapon codes to be given as a secret after I've completed the game normally like the flamethrower in pipe2. I haven't met an audio game that I've actively desired a cheat for, sinse most have sufficiently balanced difficulty and saving features for me not to want one, though I enjoy them as an ulockable reward or something to play with later on. The only time I'd say cheats are a really bad thing, is when people just put in an infinite lives or energy cheat and skim right through from end to end, then shelve the game and never play it again. Cheat codes however, are good for people who are frustrated with a given game and when the choice is cheat or forget it, cheating is better. I've done that myself in both mainstream games and some interactive fiction titles with impossible puzles. Just my thoughts here, anyone is free to disagree. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Hi Al, Are you kidding? I'm a Star Trek gooru, and I've watched, read, and consumed just about everything and anything dealing with Star Trek. In answer to your question yes I've watched Wrath ofKhan many times. Grin Anyway, that scene is typical Kirk. He always cheats one way or another. Then again Khan steeling the Reliant, using it against the Enterprise, wasn't exactly fair gamesmanship was it? Khan said it best himself. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Allan Thompson wrote: LOL...Tom, you just reminded me of something hilarious. I hope you have seen Star Trek: The wrath of Khan. If you had, do you remember when Khan first encountered Kirk's ship? Khan got some good shots in and crippled the enterprise, and then when Kirk surrendered, Khan offered freedom for his ship and crew if Kirk transmitted him all the information about the genesis project. So what does Kirk do? He has Spock read him some numbers, he inputs them in and transmits. These numbers cause Khan's ship to drop all shields and Kirk opens fire. I can't believe I am going to say this, but Captain James T Kirk uses Cheat Codes!! cheezy grin. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Hahaha...Ok, so you did watch the movie. Still , I thought it was funny. If I was a klingon coming against Kirk I would be like, Forget it, he has the invincibility code, let's just self destruct and get this over with, grin. That is a classic Khan line. Of course, I always thought that revenge was a dish best served like super hot, so that they would burn their hands and their tongue on it...but hey, that's just me. pop quiz hotshot, Time is the fire in which we burn. Which Trek movie is that from? grin. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Hi, Answer is Star Trek Generations. Allan Thompson wrote: Hahaha...Ok, so you did watch the movie. Still , I thought it was funny. If I was a klingon coming against Kirk I would be like, Forget it, he has the invincibility code, let's just self destruct and get this over with, grin. That is a classic Khan line. Of course, I always thought that revenge was a dish best served like super hot, so that they would burn their hands and their tongue on it...but hey, that's just me. pop quiz hotshot, Time is the fire in which we burn. Which Trek movie is that from? grin. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
I guess that was an easy one. It's my favorite line though. al - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? Hi, Answer is Star Trek Generations. Allan Thompson wrote: Hahaha...Ok, so you did watch the movie. Still , I thought it was funny. If I was a klingon coming against Kirk I would be like, Forget it, he has the invincibility code, let's just self destruct and get this over with, grin. That is a classic Khan line. Of course, I always thought that revenge was a dish best served like super hot, so that they would burn their hands and their tongue on it...but hey, that's just me. pop quiz hotshot, Time is the fire in which we burn. Which Trek movie is that from? grin. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Hi Charles, Personally as a gamer I enjoy using cheats sometimes, particularly if I've already beaten the game and want to abuse it a little. It's pretty much just to see how far you can stretch the boundries of it, if that makes any sense? And from a programming perspective, they're great fun. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:54 AM Subject: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? I know that programmers and testers use cheat codes so that they can test certain aspects of games before they are sold or given to the public, but why do you, as a gamer, use them? After all, it's cheating. I ask this to see what answers I get. --- In God we trust! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.60/2495 - Release Date: 11/10/09 19:56:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Exactly, and you can really have fun if you don't intend to actualll post your scores are anything; I hardly use them myself, though. Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:11 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? Hi Charles, Personally as a gamer I enjoy using cheats sometimes, particularly if I've already beaten the game and want to abuse it a little. It's pretty much just to see how far you can stretch the boundries of it, if that makes any sense? And from a programming perspective, they're great fun. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:54 AM Subject: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? I know that programmers and testers use cheat codes so that they can test certain aspects of games before they are sold or given to the public, but why do you, as a gamer, use them? After all, it's cheating. I ask this to see what answers I get. --- In God we trust! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.60/2495 - Release Date: 11/10/09 19:56:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
i personally use cheat codes more in mainstream games than in audio games, and usually either to compensate for a sight problem, or lack of a particular feature. I for instance use level select or skip codes in many Snes games to serve the function that passwords and saves serve later, ie, letting me start from the same level i died on. I've never done this in an audio game though, sinse audiogames are usually either pre-built with save features, or so short as to make them unnecessary. In mainstream games I also sometimes use unlimited time cheats because it takes longer to view the screen for me, --- but again, this doesn't apply in audio games. I sometimes like cheat weapon codes for novelty, especially when that weapon is a weerd one which doesn't appear in the game, though I usually complete the game streight first, and I prefer such weapon codes to be given as a secret after I've completed the game normally like the flamethrower in pipe2. I haven't met an audio game that I've actively desired a cheat for, sinse most have sufficiently balanced difficulty and saving features for me not to want one, though I enjoy them as an ulockable reward or something to play with later on. The only time I'd say cheats are a really bad thing, is when people just put in an infinite lives or energy cheat and skim right through from end to end, then shelve the game and never play it again. Cheat codes however, are good for people who are frustrated with a given game and when the choice is cheat or forget it, cheating is better. I've done that myself in both mainstream games and some interactive fiction titles with impossible puzles. Just my thoughts here, anyone is free to disagree. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:54 AM Subject: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? I know that programmers and testers use cheat codes so that they can test certain aspects of games before they are sold or given to the public, but why do you, as a gamer, use them? After all, it's cheating. I ask this to see what answers I get. --- In God we trust! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
they exist to have fun I guess. I use cheatcodes only when I've beaten a game every possible way. then if I'm bored I just use them to have some fun and when there's nothing better to do. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? I know that programmers and testers use cheat codes so that they can test certain aspects of games before they are sold or given to the public, but why do you, as a gamer, use them? After all, it's cheating. I ask this to see what answers I get. --- In God we trust! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Hi, Cheat codes are fun, pure and simple. However, they are a diffrent kind of fun. I would compare the purist method of play versus the cheat type of play like this. In the first, you are playing a game of chess against an intelligent equal, in the second, you are playing chess against a monkey. The first game is serious, challenges your skills, causes you to learn an improve. When you win, if you win, you feel satisfied in the victory. Then there is the monkey game. You turn your pawn into a tank, and destroy the monkeys rooks with a photon torpedo. The monkey don't care, and neither do you. No seriousness, no brain drain, no putting way too much effort and time into what amounts to a bit of electricity pushing around little bits of electronic nothingness. You flameThrower the monkeys queen, he don't care, he's a monkey, and you don't care, cause you got this awesome flameThrower and you are blowing those monkeys pieces to kingdom come!! It is all fun, just diffrent. So I like cheat codes. I don't look down on anyone who does use cheat codes because if they are willing to download it, or buy it, they are more then entitled to play the heck out of that game anyway they please without me judging them. They aren't worse players or people for it, they aren't better, just diffrent. That is the crux. Cheat codes are not an insight into a persons moral quality or life attitude. It is just a game, they are just getting some enjoyment until they have to go back to life, and the world keeps spinning. Besides...I like monkeys. People get all upset when you use a flameThrower on their chess pieces, grin. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Lol! al, but don't call him a monkey or you'll be liable to have your bishops thrust up your nose! Seriously I agree, however the one use of cheat codes I'm not keen on is when people play a game for a few hours, decide they don't like it, cheat it, then never play it again because they've seen it. I saw that atitude on several occasions back in the old Amigar days when cracked disks with in put cheat menues on games were a common thing. Personally, I did mostly always play with cheats back then, even infinite lives or energy (I was only eight), but in my defense, I did always replay games a lot just for the exploration factor and the fun. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? Hi, Cheat codes are fun, pure and simple. However, they are a diffrent kind of fun. I would compare the purist method of play versus the cheat type of play like this. In the first, you are playing a game of chess against an intelligent equal, in the second, you are playing chess against a monkey. The first game is serious, challenges your skills, causes you to learn an improve. When you win, if you win, you feel satisfied in the victory. Then there is the monkey game. You turn your pawn into a tank, and destroy the monkeys rooks with a photon torpedo. The monkey don't care, and neither do you. No seriousness, no brain drain, no putting way too much effort and time into what amounts to a bit of electricity pushing around little bits of electronic nothingness. You flameThrower the monkeys queen, he don't care, he's a monkey, and you don't care, cause you got this awesome flameThrower and you are blowing those monkeys pieces to kingdom come!! It is all fun, just diffrent. So I like cheat codes. I don't look down on anyone who does use cheat codes because if they are willing to download it, or buy it, they are more then entitled to play the heck out of that game anyway they please without me judging them. They aren't worse players or people for it, they aren't better, just diffrent. That is the crux. Cheat codes are not an insight into a persons moral quality or life attitude. It is just a game, they are just getting some enjoyment until they have to go back to life, and the world keeps spinning. Besides...I like monkeys. People get all upset when you use a flameThrower on their chess pieces, grin. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Yeah, I hear you. Some people do that, but really, it doesn't bother me. It's their time to use or abuse as they wish. What would miff me is if there was money on the table, and they cheated you out of it, let's say for a contest or tournament. Other then that, I just let monkeys lie, grin. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? Lol! al, but don't call him a monkey or you'll be liable to have your bishops thrust up your nose! Seriously I agree, however the one use of cheat codes I'm not keen on is when people play a game for a few hours, decide they don't like it, cheat it, then never play it again because they've seen it. I saw that atitude on several occasions back in the old Amigar days when cracked disks with in put cheat menues on games were a common thing. Personally, I did mostly always play with cheats back then, even infinite lives or energy (I was only eight), but in my defense, I did always replay games a lot just for the exploration factor and the fun. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist? Hi, Cheat codes are fun, pure and simple. However, they are a diffrent kind of fun. I would compare the purist method of play versus the cheat type of play like this. In the first, you are playing a game of chess against an intelligent equal, in the second, you are playing chess against a monkey. The first game is serious, challenges your skills, causes you to learn an improve. When you win, if you win, you feel satisfied in the victory. Then there is the monkey game. You turn your pawn into a tank, and destroy the monkeys rooks with a photon torpedo. The monkey don't care, and neither do you. No seriousness, no brain drain, no putting way too much effort and time into what amounts to a bit of electricity pushing around little bits of electronic nothingness. You flameThrower the monkeys queen, he don't care, he's a monkey, and you don't care, cause you got this awesome flameThrower and you are blowing those monkeys pieces to kingdom come!! It is all fun, just diffrent. So I like cheat codes. I don't look down on anyone who does use cheat codes because if they are willing to download it, or buy it, they are more then entitled to play the heck out of that game anyway they please without me judging them. They aren't worse players or people for it, they aren't better, just diffrent. That is the crux. Cheat codes are not an insight into a persons moral quality or life attitude. It is just a game, they are just getting some enjoyment until they have to go back to life, and the world keeps spinning. Besides...I like monkeys. People get all upset when you use a flameThrower on their chess pieces, grin. al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Hi Charles, That's a good question. As most people know I don't use cheat codes for serious gaming, but I sometimes do if the mood strikes. I am most often likely to use a cheat code or codes when I'm in a really bad mood. Like if I just want to get into a game and go on a blind rampage blowing up everyone and everything in site. Many games have an invincibility cheat so you can do anything in the game and not lose health or get damaged by it. That basically gives the player godlike powers and abilitys. Here is a case in point. Back before I lost my sight I use to play a game called Star Wars Dark Forces. It is basically about a former Imperial officer who has joined the Rebbel Alliance, and ends up carrying out several missions. As the plot unfolds you discover the Empire is creating a new type of storm trooper called the dark troopers. When playing the game normally the dark troopers are serious foes to kill. However, if you use the invincibility cheat it was sort of funny marching right through the heart of the Imperial base blowing up everyone and everything in site. When the dark troopers would attack you could fight an entire army of them, not take damage, and pretty much take your time killing each one of them very very slowly. Basically, you were like a god doing what you pleased when you pleased, and the Empire's crack comandos couldn't touch you. It was especially funny dropping a thermal detonator, and sitting right on it when it exploded. All of the troopers would blow up, Kyle would yell, but he was still there undamaged while everything else in the room is blown to pieces. Basically, I did it for kicks, but I never took the game seriously as I did it though. Charles Rivard wrote: I know that programmers and testers use cheat codes so that they can test certain aspects of games before they are sold or given to the public, but why do you, as a gamer, use them? After all, it's cheating. I ask this to see what answers I get. --- In God we trust! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Well it doesn't annoy me in the And for this crime you shal be hung head downwards by the toes in a vat of extremely garlic butter, while latest boy band music is pumped eternally into your ears, and inexpert acupuncture practitioners practice all their vile arts upon your quivering carcus sort of way, - it just peeves me a bit that people don't appreciate the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
Dark: Well I think I can speak for all of us when I say that I hope I never annoy you in the And for this crime you shal be hung head downwards by the toes in a vat of extremely garlic butter, while latest boy band music is pumped eternally into your ears, and inexpert acupuncture practitioners practice all their vile arts upon your quivering carcus sort of way. If someone does soon though, hold that thought, rumour has it SO Solid Crew are reforming, you surely won't find much worse music to pump their ears with than that. Tom: Dark Forces and Jedi Knight were both killer games! I also used to use the invinsibility cheats to quell rage, on particularly grim days I might've done the same thing during the one on one duals in Jedi Knight just for the luxury of it lol. I confess, I've never used a cheat in an audio game yet. This is mainly due to a lack of knowledge. where can I find such things? On 11/12/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Well it doesn't annoy me in the And for this crime you shal be hung head downwards by the toes in a vat of extremely garlic butter, while latest boy band music is pumped eternally into your ears, and inexpert acupuncture practitioners practice all their vile arts upon your quivering carcus sort of way, - it just peeves me a bit that people don't appreciate the game. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] why do cheat codes exist?
www.audiogames.net has some, though it's worth noting that when most audiogames have cheats, their specific to the copy of the game, so can't really be repeated. Many audiogames also don't have cheats at all. Oh, and I hope that makes clear what happens to people who do! annoy me, and serve them right! guahahaha! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.