Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[rajmund]

Windows live mail is windows 7, which is still supported, though.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 23 Jul 2016, at 5:55 pm, Justin Jones <atreides...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Because Microsoft will no longer support Windows XP and it has
> security holes large enough to drive a tank through.
> 
>> On 7/23/16, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Least it's free. I'd never pay for an email client.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>> 
>>> On 22 Jul 2016, at 8:11 pm, Jody McKinniss <jlove42...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Charles,
>>> Windows Live is a piece of shit.  And if you've got MS Office, then
>>> there's no need for it anyway.  I currently use Win 10, and I have
>>> found no issues with accessibility other than the ones with the JFW
>>> cursor that were present in Windows 8, and the aforementioned Edge
>>> inaccessibility.  As for Edge, I doubt very highly that this is going
>>> to be accessible any time soon.  However, both Firefox and IE are
>>> still as accessible as always.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7/22/16, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
>>>> The only reason that XP, an excellent and stable operating system, is
>>>> dead
>>>> is that Microsoft decided to make it so by no longer maintaining and
>>>> supporting it.  I put the blame on why we had to migrate squarely and
>>>> entirely on Microsoft.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Justin Jones
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:14 PM
>>>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a
>>>> new
>>>> 
>>>> fully featured RPG!
>>>> 
>>>> At Dark,
>>>> 
>>>> No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
>>>> than XP ever was.
>>>> 
>>>> I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
>>>> showing its age.
>>>> 
>>>> And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
>>>> no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
>>>> Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
>>>> I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a
>>>> doctorate
>>>> in?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi John.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine
>>>>> with
>>>>> 
>>>>> it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the
>>>>> past
>>>>> 
>>>>> eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything
>>>>> goes
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrong I'm in trouble.
>>>>> Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but
>>>>> since
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of
>>>>> my
>>>>> life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry
>>>>> games
>>>>> don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es
>>>>> win
>>>>> 7
>>>>> machine and try the game out at least.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dark.
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
>>>>> new
>>>>> fully featured RPG!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> try.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> From: "dark"

Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Justin Jones]

Because Microsoft will no longer support Windows XP and it has
security holes large enough to drive a tank through.

On 7/23/16, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Least it's free. I'd never pay for an email client.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>
>> On 22 Jul 2016, at 8:11 pm, Jody McKinniss <jlove42...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Charles,
>> Windows Live is a piece of shit.  And if you've got MS Office, then
>> there's no need for it anyway.  I currently use Win 10, and I have
>> found no issues with accessibility other than the ones with the JFW
>> cursor that were present in Windows 8, and the aforementioned Edge
>> inaccessibility.  As for Edge, I doubt very highly that this is going
>> to be accessible any time soon.  However, both Firefox and IE are
>> still as accessible as always.
>>
>>
>>> On 7/22/16, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
>>> The only reason that XP, an excellent and stable operating system, is
>>> dead
>>> is that Microsoft decided to make it so by no longer maintaining and
>>> supporting it.  I put the blame on why we had to migrate squarely and
>>> entirely on Microsoft.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: Justin Jones
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:14 PM
>>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a
>>> new
>>>
>>> fully featured RPG!
>>>
>>> At Dark,
>>>
>>> No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
>>> than XP ever was.
>>>
>>> I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
>>> showing its age.
>>>
>>> And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
>>> no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
>>> Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
>>> I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.
>>>
>>> Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a
>>> doctorate
>>> in?
>>>
>>>> On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi John.
>>>>
>>>> I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine
>>>> with
>>>>
>>>> it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the
>>>> past
>>>>
>>>> eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything
>>>> goes
>>>>
>>>> wrong I'm in trouble.
>>>> Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but
>>>> since
>>>>
>>>> I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of
>>>> my
>>>> life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry
>>>> games
>>>> don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es
>>>> win
>>>> 7
>>>> machine and try the game out at least.
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Dark.
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
>>>> new
>>>> fully featured RPG!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give
>>>>> that
>>>>> a
>>>>> try.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
>>>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
>>>>> new
>>>>> fully featured RPG!
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display
>>>>> probperly,
>>>>> downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that
>>>>> bloated
>>>>> messmicrosoft outlook

Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[rajmund]

Hi,
Least it's free. I'd never pay for an email client. 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 22 Jul 2016, at 8:11 pm, Jody McKinniss <jlove42...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Charles,
> Windows Live is a piece of shit.  And if you've got MS Office, then
> there's no need for it anyway.  I currently use Win 10, and I have
> found no issues with accessibility other than the ones with the JFW
> cursor that were present in Windows 8, and the aforementioned Edge
> inaccessibility.  As for Edge, I doubt very highly that this is going
> to be accessible any time soon.  However, both Firefox and IE are
> still as accessible as always.
> 
> 
>> On 7/22/16, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
>> The only reason that XP, an excellent and stable operating system, is dead
>> is that Microsoft decided to make it so by no longer maintaining and
>> supporting it.  I put the blame on why we had to migrate squarely and
>> entirely on Microsoft.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Justin Jones
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:14 PM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new
>> 
>> fully featured RPG!
>> 
>> At Dark,
>> 
>> No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
>> than XP ever was.
>> 
>> I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
>> showing its age.
>> 
>> And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
>> no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
>> Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
>> I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.
>> 
>> Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a doctorate
>> in?
>> 
>>> On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
>>> Hi John.
>>> 
>>> I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine
>>> with
>>> 
>>> it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the
>>> past
>>> 
>>> eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything
>>> goes
>>> 
>>> wrong I'm in trouble.
>>> Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but
>>> since
>>> 
>>> I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of
>>> my
>>> life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry games
>>> don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es win
>>> 7
>>> machine and try the game out at least.
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> 
>>> Dark.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
>>> new
>>> fully featured RPG!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give that
>>>> a
>>>> try.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
>>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
>>>> new
>>>> fully featured RPG!
>>>> 
>>>> Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
>>>> downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated
>>>> messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.
>>>> 
>>>> Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10
>>>> machine
>>>> laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be
>>>> the
>>>> latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
>>>> can't
>>>> do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
>>>> consider.
>>>> 
>>>> Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that
>>>> the
>>>> only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy

Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Josh Kennedy]

because it is no longer supported it is very easily hackable and can get 
viruses and malware very very easily. the safest way for xp to stay 
alive is in a vm or virtual machine.




On 7/23/2016 10:49 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:
Why should a stable and reliable operating system that is completely 
screen reader accessible die?





If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-Original Message- From: lenron brown
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:00 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, 
a new fully featured RPG!


XP needed to die. To me 7 was 10 times better. Now I am on 10 and
moving along just fine. If you don't like windows though buy a mac or
switch to linux.

On 7/22/16, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Just saying, there are other clients for win7. since I've not used 
anything
other than win10 yet, I can't comment on what people should use. But, 
I'm

using a windows male of some sort, and as I say, am on windows 10.

Sent from my iPhone 5S


On 22 Jul 2016, at 2:36 am, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about that bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10 
machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well 
be the
latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I 
can't

do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact 
that the

only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Charles Rivard]

Why should a stable and reliable operating system that is completely screen 
reader accessible die?





If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-Original Message- 
From: lenron brown

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:00 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new 
fully featured RPG!


XP needed to die. To me 7 was 10 times better. Now I am on 10 and
moving along just fine. If you don't like windows though buy a mac or
switch to linux.

On 7/22/16, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Just saying, there are other clients for win7. since I've not used 
anything

other than win10 yet, I can't comment on what people should use. But, I'm
using a windows male of some sort, and as I say, am on windows 10.

Sent from my iPhone 5S


On 22 Jul 2016, at 2:36 am, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10 machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be the
latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I 
can't

do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that 
the

only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.

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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Justin Jones]

The Mac is an expensive joke. I wish Apple would wise up and get out
of the personal computer business and stick to phones and their other
devices.

On 7/22/16, lenron brown  wrote:
> XP needed to die. To me 7 was 10 times better. Now I am on 10 and
> moving along just fine. If you don't like windows though buy a mac or
> switch to linux.
>
> On 7/22/16, rajmund  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Just saying, there are other clients for win7. since I've not used
>> anything
>> other than win10 yet, I can't comment on what people should use. But, I'm
>> using a windows male of some sort, and as I say, am on windows 10.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>
>>> On 22 Jul 2016, at 2:36 am, dark  wrote:
>>>
>>> Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
>>> downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated
>>> messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.
>>>
>>> Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10
>>> machine
>>> laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be
>>> the
>>> latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
>>> can't
>>> do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
>>> consider.
>>>
>>> Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that
>>> the
>>> only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
>>> prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
>>> software compatibility in the process.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> DArk.
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[lenron brown]

XP needed to die. To me 7 was 10 times better. Now I am on 10 and
moving along just fine. If you don't like windows though buy a mac or
switch to linux.

On 7/22/16, rajmund  wrote:
> Hi,
> Just saying, there are other clients for win7. since I've not used anything
> other than win10 yet, I can't comment on what people should use. But, I'm
> using a windows male of some sort, and as I say, am on windows 10.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>
>> On 22 Jul 2016, at 2:36 am, dark  wrote:
>>
>> Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
>> downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated
>> messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.
>>
>> Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10 machine
>> laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be the
>> latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I can't
>> do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
>> consider.
>>
>> Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that the
>> only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
>> prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
>> software compatibility in the process.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> DArk.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[rajmund]

Hi,
Just saying, there are other clients for win7. since I've not used anything 
other than win10 yet, I can't comment on what people should use. But, I'm using 
a windows male of some sort, and as I say, am on windows 10.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On 22 Jul 2016, at 2:36 am, dark  wrote:
> 
> Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly, 
> downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated 
> messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.
> 
> Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10 machine 
> laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be the 
> latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I can't do 
> that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to consider.
> 
> Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that the 
> only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who 
> prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of 
> software compatibility in the process.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> DArk. 
> 
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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Josh Kennedy]

in windows10 i often use the jaws touch cursor i hit capslock shift 
semicolon in laptop keyboard layout to activate it, if jaws cursor 
doesn't work for me.




On 7/22/2016 2:11 PM, Jody McKinniss wrote:

Charles,
Windows Live is a piece of shit.  And if you've got MS Office, then
there's no need for it anyway.  I currently use Win 10, and I have
found no issues with accessibility other than the ones with the JFW
cursor that were present in Windows 8, and the aforementioned Edge
inaccessibility.  As for Edge, I doubt very highly that this is going
to be accessible any time soon.  However, both Firefox and IE are
still as accessible as always.


On 7/22/16, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:

The only reason that XP, an excellent and stable operating system, is dead
is that Microsoft decided to make it so by no longer maintaining and
supporting it.  I put the blame on why we had to migrate squarely and
entirely on Microsoft.




If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-Original Message-
From: Justin Jones
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new

fully featured RPG!

At Dark,

No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
than XP ever was.

I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
showing its age.

And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.

Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a doctorate
in?

On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

Hi John.

I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine
with

it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the
past

eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything
goes

wrong I'm in trouble.
Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but
since

I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of
my
life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry games
don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es win
7
machine and try the game out at least.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
new
fully featured RPG!



You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give that
a
try.

--
From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
new
fully featured RPG!

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10
machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be
the
latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
can't
do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that
the
only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Josh Kennedy]

do you know how many developers it would take to keep supporting the 
older systems? besides, windows7 and especially 10 are way more secure 
than windows xp ever was. plus getting drivers for xp was a pain. yes it 
was fast, but so is windows10.




On 7/22/2016 1:05 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
The only reason that XP, an excellent and stable operating system, is 
dead is that Microsoft decided to make it so by no longer maintaining 
and supporting it.  I put the blame on why we had to migrate squarely 
and entirely on Microsoft.





If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-Original Message- From: Justin Jones
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, 
a new fully featured RPG!


At Dark,

No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
than XP ever was.

I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
showing its age.

And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.

Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a 
doctorate in?


On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

Hi John.

I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be 
fine with


it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for 
the past


eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since 
anything goes


wrong I'm in trouble.
Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but 
since


I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest 
of my
life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry 
games
don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es 
win 7

machine and try the game out at least.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents 
Manamon,a new

fully featured RPG!


You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give 
that

a
try.

--
From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
new
fully featured RPG!

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about that bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10 
machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well 
be the

latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
can't
do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that
the
only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Jody McKinniss]

Charles,
Windows Live is a piece of shit.  And if you've got MS Office, then
there's no need for it anyway.  I currently use Win 10, and I have
found no issues with accessibility other than the ones with the JFW
cursor that were present in Windows 8, and the aforementioned Edge
inaccessibility.  As for Edge, I doubt very highly that this is going
to be accessible any time soon.  However, both Firefox and IE are
still as accessible as always.


On 7/22/16, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
> The only reason that XP, an excellent and stable operating system, is dead
> is that Microsoft decided to make it so by no longer maintaining and
> supporting it.  I put the blame on why we had to migrate squarely and
> entirely on Microsoft.
>
>
>
>
> If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Jones
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:14 PM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new
>
> fully featured RPG!
>
> At Dark,
>
> No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
> than XP ever was.
>
> I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
> showing its age.
>
> And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
> no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
> Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
> I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.
>
> Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a doctorate
> in?
>
> On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
>> Hi John.
>>
>> I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine
>> with
>>
>> it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the
>> past
>>
>> eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything
>> goes
>>
>> wrong I'm in trouble.
>> Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but
>> since
>>
>> I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of
>> my
>> life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry games
>> don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es win
>> 7
>> machine and try the game out at least.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Dark.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
>> new
>> fully featured RPG!
>>
>>
>>> You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give that
>>> a
>>> try.
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
>>> new
>>> fully featured RPG!
>>>
>>> Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
>>> downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated
>>> messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.
>>>
>>> Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10
>>> machine
>>> laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be
>>> the
>>> latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
>>> can't
>>> do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
>>> consider.
>>>
>>> Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that
>>> the
>>> only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
>>> prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
>>> software compatibility in the process.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> DArk.
>>>
>>>
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>&g

Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Josh Kennedy]

I have win10 and do not use edge i use firefox and chrome and 
thunderbird. and internet explorer is still there under accessories if i 
want it or i can put it on the desktop. and win10 is also faster than 
win7. i gave it a win7 style start menu with the free classic shell at 
classicshell.net . turn off cortana and stuff you may not want or need 
and you have a faster win7 but nice and up to date. i never use cortana 
i have my android phone to talk to that is enough for me. got latest 
NVDA and latest jaws on here as well. both work great.




On 7/22/2016 12:55 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
When I finally scraped enough money together to buy a refurbished 
Windows 7 desktop PC, I was having huge problems with the eMail client 
that was on it, so I called the help desk for the visually impaired.  
I was immediately told that Windows Live Mail was no longer being 
supported.  I told the tech that, while this is nothing against you 
personally, your company's policies of no longer supporting their 
software is the biggest boatloat of unnecessary crap that I have 
encountered.  I've had a machine for 4 days and you don't support the 
software?  He suggested that I migrate to Windows 10.  I let him know 
that until Microsoft made the Edge browser and the eMail client that 
comes with it accessible, I was not interested.  I feel that it is not 
up to a third party screen reader developer to make the operating 
system usable. It is up to the operating system developer.  I feel 
more strongly against Microsoft than you do, and have felt this way 
for a long time.




If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-Original Message- From: dark
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:38 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a 
new fully featured RPG!


Well I've now seen three win 7 machines explode on me, so you must've 
been

lucky.
Either way, glad to here I don't have to use cruddy outlook when I
eventually get a new machine.

God I hate microsoft!
Beware the grue!

DArk.>> fully featured RPG!




At Dark,

No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
than XP ever was.

I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
showing its age.

And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.

Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a 
doctorate


in?

On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

Hi John.

I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be 
fine

with

it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for 
the

past

eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since 
anything

goes

wrong I'm in trouble.
Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but
since

I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the 
rest of

my
life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry
games
don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my 
wif'es win


7
machine and try the game out at least.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents 
Manamon,a

new
fully featured RPG!



You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give
that
a
try.

--
From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents 
Manamon,a

new
fully featured RPG!

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display 
probperly,

downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that
bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10
machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as 
well be

the
latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
can't
do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact 
that

the
only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy 
bastards who
prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 
years of

software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Charles Rivard]

The only reason that XP, an excellent and stable operating system, is dead 
is that Microsoft decided to make it so by no longer maintaining and 
supporting it.  I put the blame on why we had to migrate squarely and 
entirely on Microsoft.





If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-Original Message- 
From: Justin Jones

Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:14 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new 
fully featured RPG!


At Dark,

No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
than XP ever was.

I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
showing its age.

And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.

Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a doctorate 
in?


On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

Hi John.

I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine 
with


it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the 
past


eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything 
goes


wrong I'm in trouble.
Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but 
since


I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of my
life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry games
don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es win 7
machine and try the game out at least.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a new
fully featured RPG!



You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give that
a
try.

--
From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
new
fully featured RPG!

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10 machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be the
latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
can't
do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that
the
only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Charles Rivard]

When I finally scraped enough money together to buy a refurbished Windows 7 
desktop PC, I was having huge problems with the eMail client that was on it, 
so I called the help desk for the visually impaired.  I was immediately told 
that Windows Live Mail was no longer being supported.  I told the tech that, 
while this is nothing against you personally, your company's policies of no 
longer supporting their software is the biggest boatloat of unnecessary crap 
that I have encountered.  I've had a machine for 4 days and you don't 
support the software?  He suggested that I migrate to Windows 10.  I let him 
know that until Microsoft made the Edge browser and the eMail client that 
comes with it accessible, I was not interested.  I feel that it is not up to 
a third party screen reader developer to make the operating system usable. 
It is up to the operating system developer.  I feel more strongly against 
Microsoft than you do, and have felt this way for a long time.




If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-Original Message- 
From: dark

Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:38 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a new 
fully featured RPG!


Well I've now seen three win 7 machines explode on me, so you must've been
lucky.
Either way, glad to here I don't have to use cruddy outlook when I
eventually get a new machine.

God I hate microsoft!
Beware the grue!

DArk.>> fully featured RPG!




At Dark,

No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
than XP ever was.

I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
showing its age.

And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.

Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a 
doctorate


in?

On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

Hi John.

I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine
with

it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the
past

eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything
goes

wrong I'm in trouble.
Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but
since

I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of
my
life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry
games
don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es 
win


7
machine and try the game out at least.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
new
fully featured RPG!



You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give
that
a
try.

--
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
new
fully featured RPG!

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display 
probperly,

downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that
bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10
machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be
the
latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
can't
do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that
the
only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards 
who

prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Jody McKinniss]

Dark,
1.  Downloads do not complete:  Perhaps contacting your ISP to have
tests run on the signal quality reaching your home would be a good
thing.  I remember that when I had a similar issue, there was
equipment on the outside of my home that needed replacing.  Also, if
you are using wireless to connect, try using at least cat5 Ethernet
cable and directly connecting your pc.  Run your computer directly
from the modem to the PC.  Do not use routers or switches for this
test.  If your downloads are successful, then it is likely a wireless
connectivity issue.
2. Folders do not display correctly:  What do you mean, they do not
display correctly?  In what way are they incorrect?  What is it that
you're seeing that you shouldn't, or not seeing that you should?  I
used windows 7 for years, and folders worked just fine for me.
Remember also that the look and feel of your folders can be changed in
folder options.
3. Outlook sucks:  I actually used Outlook for many years with Win 7,
but if you want outlook express, then install it.  Personally I found
that the commands were mostly the same, so I didn't need it.
As I stated yesterday, Windows 7 was Microsoft's best operating system
at the time of its completion.  Any issues you're having I suspect
fall into 3 categories:  Possible hardware issues, possible equipment
issues from your ISP, and user unfamiliarity with the operating
system.  I'll try to help you as best I can, but I'm going to need
more info than just "folders don't display right."

On 7/21/16, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm I havn't seen any machine explode due to windows being at fault.
> I have seen 2 vista hp units do that due to faulty designs in the units.
> I have seen bad psus, which totally screw everything on raid but its not
> windows.
> I have several windows machines and they work.
> It sounds like you can't stand windows.
> Maaybe you should put all your serious work to linux I have friends that
> do that I don't currently.
>
>
>
> On 22/07/2016 4:38 p.m., dark wrote:
>> Well I've now seen three win 7 machines explode on me, so you must've
>> been lucky.
>> Either way, glad to here I don't have to use cruddy outlook when I
>> eventually get a new machine.
>>
>> God I hate microsoft!
>> Beware the grue!
>>
>> DArk.>> fully featured RPG!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> At Dark,
>>>>>
>>>>> No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
>>>>> than XP ever was.
>>>>>
>>>>> I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
>>>>> showing its age.
>>>>>
>>>>> And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
>>>>> no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
>>>>> Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
>>>>> I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a
>>>>> doctorate
>>>>>
>>>>> in?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi John.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be
>>>>>> fine
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> past
>>>>>>
>>>>>> eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since
>>>>>> anything
>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrong I'm in trouble.
>>>>>> Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but
>>>>>> since
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the
>>>>>> rest of
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry
>>>>>> games
>>>>>> don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my
>>>>>> wif'es win
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7
>>>>>> machine and try the game out at least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dark.
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
>>>

Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Shaun Everiss]

Hmmm I havn't seen any machine explode due to windows being at fault.
I have seen 2 vista hp units do that due to faulty designs in the units.
I have seen bad psus, which totally screw everything on raid but its not 
windows.

I have several windows machines and they work.
It sounds like you can't stand windows.
Maaybe you should put all your serious work to linux I have friends that 
do that I don't currently.




On 22/07/2016 4:38 p.m., dark wrote:

Well I've now seen three win 7 machines explode on me, so you must've
been lucky.
Either way, glad to here I don't have to use cruddy outlook when I
eventually get a new machine.

God I hate microsoft!
Beware the grue!

DArk.>> fully featured RPG!




At Dark,

No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
than XP ever was.

I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
showing its age.

And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.

Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a
doctorate

in?

On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

Hi John.

I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be
fine
with

it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the
past

eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since
anything
goes

wrong I'm in trouble.
Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but
since

I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the
rest of
my
life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry
games
don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my
wif'es win

7
machine and try the game out at least.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
new
fully featured RPG!



You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give
that
a
try.

--
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents
Manamon,a
new
fully featured RPG!

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display
probperly,
downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that
bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10
machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be
the
latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
can't
do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact
that
the
only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy
bastards who
prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Shaun Everiss]

Hmmm those issues are not windows.
1.  downloads do not complete.
I'd get your lines tested to be honest it could be a net issue or a 
cable issue or something.
2.  folders not displaying right well maybe your antivirus software is 
being slow or more importantly your hard drive is bad.
3.  outlook sucks, well if you don't like it, use thunderbird I use it 
and have been using it for like ages now.




On 22/07/2016 12:04 p.m., dark wrote:

Half the time folders do not display properly, downloaded files stop in
the middle, and outlook is just plane inconvenient.

I probably will get a windows 10 machine later this year when my thesis
is finished and I can risk being without a version of ms office for
formatting. I don't suppose that is any better than 7 but if I must have
crap at least I can have the latest crap, which is after all microsoft's
philosophy.
I'm just disappointed that a development system created on xp which
already supports xp has been made not to in the case of Aaron's games.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: "lenron brown" <lenro...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a
new fully featured RPG!



Ha win 7 runs fine. I still don't get what bugs you speak of. Windows
8 may have had some issues but nothing that made it unusable

On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

"Current software" like bgt?
If this was a new game there would be an issue, but there are far
more games

still being built with bgt now that work fine with xp, and I am rather
disappointed that, as people still use xp this error can't be fixed.
As I said I'll probably install on my wifes machine with that buggy
waste of

space windows 7, so I'll get to play tis, but I'd much rather do it
on mine

so was wondering if Aaron could please fix the error as reported for his
last three releases.

All the best,

DArk.
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From: "Justin Jones" <atreides...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,
a new

fully featured RPG!



If someone wishes to continue to use Windows XP; then that is fine. On
the other hand, they have no right to complain when current software,
e.g. games, will not function on their machine.

On 7/21/16, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:

when you can get a good two in one tablet for $99 there really is no
excuse. oh yes and the orbit reader 20 probably for around $480 or so
maybe $500. I wish i could buy one now but i gotta give it a month or
two then I will have the needed money set aside.



On 7/21/2016 3:22 PM, john wrote:

This debate is getting ridiculous. Can we not have it again.
There are reasons for people to use xp, from "I can't afford
something
else"
to "I'm familiar with it" to "its what's on my old computers and I
want
to
play games on those too.".
If you think people are idiots for using and xp and are going to
suffer,
then let them suffer. Quietly.


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[dark]

Well I've now seen three win 7 machines explode on me, so you must've been 
lucky.
Either way, glad to here I don't have to use cruddy outlook when I 
eventually get a new machine.


God I hate microsoft!
Beware the grue!

DArk.>> fully featured RPG!




At Dark,

No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
than XP ever was.

I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
showing its age.

And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.

Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a 
doctorate


in?

On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

Hi John.

I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine
with

it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the
past

eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything
goes

wrong I'm in trouble.
Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but
since

I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of
my
life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry
games
don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es 
win


7
machine and try the game out at least.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
new
fully featured RPG!



You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give
that
a
try.

--
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
new
fully featured RPG!

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display 
probperly,

downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that
bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10
machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be
the
latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
can't
do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that
the
only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards 
who

prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[lenron brown]

Again as I said earlier I really think that is a computer issue. I
have been using win 7 sense it was released and I didn't have nearly
so many issues.

On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
> Not ffinding that right now trying to use paypal to buy the game on my
> lady's win 7 machine.
> It's a piece of shite frankly.
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Justin Jones" <atreides...@gmail.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 2:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new
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> fully featured RPG!
>
>
>> At Dark,
>>
>> No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
>> than XP ever was.
>>
>> I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
>> showing its age.
>>
>> And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
>> no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
>> Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
>> I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.
>>
>> Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a doctorate
>>
>> in?
>>
>> On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
>>> Hi John.
>>>
>>> I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine
>>> with
>>>
>>> it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the
>>> past
>>>
>>> eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything
>>> goes
>>>
>>> wrong I'm in trouble.
>>> Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but
>>> since
>>>
>>> I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of
>>> my
>>> life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry
>>> games
>>> don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es win
>>>
>>> 7
>>> machine and try the game out at least.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Dark.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
>>> new
>>> fully featured RPG!
>>>
>>>
>>>> You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give
>>>> that
>>>> a
>>>> try.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
>>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
>>>> new
>>>> fully featured RPG!
>>>>
>>>> Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
>>>> downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that
>>>> bloated
>>>> messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.
>>>>
>>>> Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10
>>>> machine
>>>> laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be
>>>> the
>>>> latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
>>>> can't
>>>> do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
>>>> consider.
>>>>
>>>> Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that
>>>> the
>>>> only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
>>>> prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
>>>> software compatibility in the process.
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> DArk.
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[dark]

Not ffinding that right now trying to use paypal to buy the game on my 
lady's win 7 machine.

It's a piece of shite frankly.

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Jones" <atreides...@gmail.com>

To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new 
fully featured RPG!




At Dark,

No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
than XP ever was.

I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
showing its age.

And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.

Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a doctorate 
in?


On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

Hi John.

I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine 
with


it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the 
past


eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything 
goes


wrong I'm in trouble.
Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but 
since


I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of 
my

life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry games
don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es win 
7

machine and try the game out at least.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message -
From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a 
new

fully featured RPG!



You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give that
a
try.

--
From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
new
fully featured RPG!

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10 
machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be 
the

latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
can't
do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that
the
only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Justin Jones]

At Dark,

No idea what you mean by Windows 7 being buggy, it is far more stable
than XP ever was.

I liked Windows XP back in the day, but by the time 7 came out, it was
showing its age.

And no, even using older developer kits, software developers are under
no obligation to support computers using dead (and that is what
Windows XP is, dead) operating systems. Again, if you want to use it,
I do not begrudge you that, but just keep this fact in mind.

Also, curiosity compels me to ask, but what are you working on a doctorate in?

On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
> Hi John.
>
> I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine with
>
> it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the past
>
> eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything goes
>
> wrong I'm in trouble.
> Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but since
>
> I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of my
> life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry games
> don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es win 7
> machine and try the game out at least.
>
> All the best,
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message -
> From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a new
> fully featured RPG!
>
>
>> You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give that
>> a
>> try.
>>
>> ----------
>> From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a
>> new
>> fully featured RPG!
>>
>> Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
>> downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated
>> messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.
>>
>> Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10 machine
>> laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be the
>> latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I
>> can't
>> do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
>> consider.
>>
>> Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that
>> the
>> only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
>> prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
>> software compatibility in the process.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> DArk.
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[dark]

Hi John.

I've heard of liber office and I suspect supernova would indeed be fine with 
it, but since this is the doctoral thesis I've been working on for the past 
eight years, I'd rather not risk changing at this point, since anything goes 
wrong I'm in trouble.
Hopefully it'll all be done by september, november at the latest, but since 
I also have a new house to sort out and what I'm doing with the rest of my 
life it's not quite on the pripority list, another reason I'm sorry games 
don't work with xp, though I am about to install manamn on my wif'es win 7 
machine and try the game out at least.


All the best,

Dark.
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From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com>

To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a new 
fully featured RPG!




You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give that a
try.

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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a new
fully featured RPG!

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10 machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be the
latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I can't
do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that the
only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[john]

You don't actually need ms office - google "libre office", and give that a 
try.

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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 20:36
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon,a new 
fully featured RPG!

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly,
downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.

Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10 machine
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be the
latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I can't
do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to
consider.

Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that the
only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who
prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of
software compatibility in the process.

All the best,

DArk.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[dark]

Nope, everything has been tried. Folder lists do not display probperly, 
downloads are partially completed, and lets not talk about  that bloated 
messmicrosoft outlook, frankly it is a pile of shite.


Since there are compatibility issues I will probably get a win 10 machine 
laqter this year (if I've got to have a crappy os it might as well be the 
latest crappy os), though since I need ms office for my phd thesis I can't 
do that  now, plus there's moving house and various other things to 
consider.


Still, I'd much! rather have xpp and really i don't like the fact that the 
only reason not! to use xp is because microsoft are greedy bastards who 
prefer to break than make something better, killing about 20 years of 
software compatibility in the process.


All the best,

DArk. 



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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[lenron brown]

Have you tried restoreing that computer? This really sounds like a
computer issue.

On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
> Half the time folders do not display properly, downloaded files stop in the
>
> middle, and outlook is just plane inconvenient.
>
> I probably will get a windows 10 machine later this year when my thesis is
> finished and I can risk being without a version of ms office for formatting.
>
> I don't suppose that is any better than 7 but if I must have crap at least I
>
> can have the latest crap, which is after all microsoft's philosophy.
> I'm just disappointed that a development system created on xp which already
>
> supports xp has been made not to in the case of Aaron's games.
>
> All the best,
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message -
> From: "lenron brown" <lenro...@gmail.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new
>
> fully featured RPG!
>
>
>> Ha win 7 runs fine. I still don't get what bugs you speak of. Windows
>> 8 may have had some issues but nothing that made it unusable
>>
>> On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
>>> "Current software" like bgt?
>>> If this was a new game there would be an issue, but there are far more
>>> games
>>>
>>> still being built with bgt now that work fine with xp, and I am rather
>>> disappointed that, as people still use xp this error can't be fixed.
>>> As I said I'll probably install on my wifes machine with that buggy waste
>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>> space windows 7, so I'll get to play tis, but I'd much rather do it on
>>> mine
>>>
>>> so was wondering if Aaron could please fix the error as reported for his
>>> last three releases.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> DArk.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Justin Jones" <atreides...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a
>>> new
>>>
>>> fully featured RPG!
>>>
>>>
>>>> If someone wishes to continue to use Windows XP; then that is fine. On
>>>> the other hand, they have no right to complain when current software,
>>>> e.g. games, will not function on their machine.
>>>>
>>>> On 7/21/16, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> when you can get a good two in one tablet for $99 there really is no
>>>>> excuse. oh yes and the orbit reader 20 probably for around $480 or so
>>>>> maybe $500. I wish i could buy one now but i gotta give it a month or
>>>>> two then I will have the needed money set aside.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/21/2016 3:22 PM, john wrote:
>>>>>> This debate is getting ridiculous. Can we not have it again.
>>>>>> There are reasons for people to use xp, from "I can't afford
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> else"
>>>>>> to "I'm familiar with it" to "its what's on my old computers and I
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> play games on those too.".
>>>>>> If you think people are idiots for using and xp and are going to
>>>>>> suffer,
>>>>>> then let them suffer. Quietly.
>>>>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[dark]

Half the time folders do not display properly, downloaded files stop in the 
middle, and outlook is just plane inconvenient.


I probably will get a windows 10 machine later this year when my thesis is 
finished and I can risk being without a version of ms office for formatting. 
I don't suppose that is any better than 7 but if I must have crap at least I 
can have the latest crap, which is after all microsoft's philosophy.
I'm just disappointed that a development system created on xp which already 
supports xp has been made not to in the case of Aaron's games.


All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "lenron brown" <lenro...@gmail.com>

To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new 
fully featured RPG!




Ha win 7 runs fine. I still don't get what bugs you speak of. Windows
8 may have had some issues but nothing that made it unusable

On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

"Current software" like bgt?
If this was a new game there would be an issue, but there are far more 
games


still being built with bgt now that work fine with xp, and I am rather
disappointed that, as people still use xp this error can't be fixed.
As I said I'll probably install on my wifes machine with that buggy waste 
of


space windows 7, so I'll get to play tis, but I'd much rather do it on 
mine


so was wondering if Aaron could please fix the error as reported for his
last three releases.

All the best,

DArk.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a 
new


fully featured RPG!



If someone wishes to continue to use Windows XP; then that is fine. On
the other hand, they have no right to complain when current software,
e.g. games, will not function on their machine.

On 7/21/16, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:

when you can get a good two in one tablet for $99 there really is no
excuse. oh yes and the orbit reader 20 probably for around $480 or so
maybe $500. I wish i could buy one now but i gotta give it a month or
two then I will have the needed money set aside.



On 7/21/2016 3:22 PM, john wrote:

This debate is getting ridiculous. Can we not have it again.
There are reasons for people to use xp, from "I can't afford something
else"
to "I'm familiar with it" to "its what's on my old computers and I 
want

to
play games on those too.".
If you think people are idiots for using and xp and are going to
suffer,
then let them suffer. Quietly.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[lenron brown]

Ha win 7 runs fine. I still don't get what bugs you speak of. Windows
8 may have had some issues but nothing that made it unusable

On 7/21/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
> "Current software" like bgt?
> If this was a new game there would be an issue, but there are far more games
>
> still being built with bgt now that work fine with xp, and I am rather
> disappointed that, as people still use xp this error can't be fixed.
> As I said I'll probably install on my wifes machine with that buggy waste of
>
> space windows 7, so I'll get to play tis, but I'd much rather do it on mine
>
> so was wondering if Aaron could please fix the error as reported for his
> last three releases.
>
> All the best,
>
> DArk.
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> From: "Justin Jones" <atreides...@gmail.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new
>
> fully featured RPG!
>
>
>> If someone wishes to continue to use Windows XP; then that is fine. On
>> the other hand, they have no right to complain when current software,
>> e.g. games, will not function on their machine.
>>
>> On 7/21/16, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> when you can get a good two in one tablet for $99 there really is no
>>> excuse. oh yes and the orbit reader 20 probably for around $480 or so
>>> maybe $500. I wish i could buy one now but i gotta give it a month or
>>> two then I will have the needed money set aside.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/21/2016 3:22 PM, john wrote:
>>>> This debate is getting ridiculous. Can we not have it again.
>>>> There are reasons for people to use xp, from "I can't afford something
>>>> else"
>>>> to "I'm familiar with it" to "its what's on my old computers and I want
>>>> to
>>>> play games on those too.".
>>>> If you think people are idiots for using and xp and are going to
>>>> suffer,
>>>> then let them suffer. Quietly.
>>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[dark]

"Current software" like bgt?
If this was a new game there would be an issue, but there are far more games 
still being built with bgt now that work fine with xp, and I am rather 
disappointed that, as people still use xp this error can't be fixed.
As I said I'll probably install on my wifes machine with that buggy waste of 
space windows 7, so I'll get to play tis, but I'd much rather do it on mine 
so was wondering if Aaron could please fix the error as reported for his 
last three releases.


All the best,

DArk.
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Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new 
fully featured RPG!




If someone wishes to continue to use Windows XP; then that is fine. On
the other hand, they have no right to complain when current software,
e.g. games, will not function on their machine.

On 7/21/16, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:

when you can get a good two in one tablet for $99 there really is no
excuse. oh yes and the orbit reader 20 probably for around $480 or so
maybe $500. I wish i could buy one now but i gotta give it a month or
two then I will have the needed money set aside.



On 7/21/2016 3:22 PM, john wrote:

This debate is getting ridiculous. Can we not have it again.
There are reasons for people to use xp, from "I can't afford something
else"
to "I'm familiar with it" to "its what's on my old computers and I want
to
play games on those too.".
If you think people are idiots for using and xp and are going to suffer,
then let them suffer. Quietly.


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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[michael barnes]

When I said jam up I basically was saying that my virtual machine of 10 
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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

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If someone wishes to continue to use Windows XP; then that is fine. On
the other hand, they have no right to complain when current software,
e.g. games, will not function on their machine.

On 7/21/16, Josh Kennedy  wrote:
> when you can get a good two in one tablet for $99 there really is no
> excuse. oh yes and the orbit reader 20 probably for around $480 or so
> maybe $500. I wish i could buy one now but i gotta give it a month or
> two then I will have the needed money set aside.
>
>
>
> On 7/21/2016 3:22 PM, john wrote:
>> This debate is getting ridiculous. Can we not have it again.
>> There are reasons for people to use xp, from "I can't afford something
>> else"
>> to "I'm familiar with it" to "its what's on my old computers and I want
>> to
>> play games on those too.".
>> If you think people are idiots for using and xp and are going to suffer,
>> then let them suffer. Quietly.
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Josh Kennedy]

when you can get a good two in one tablet for $99 there really is no 
excuse. oh yes and the orbit reader 20 probably for around $480 or so 
maybe $500. I wish i could buy one now but i gotta give it a month or 
two then I will have the needed money set aside.




On 7/21/2016 3:22 PM, john wrote:

This debate is getting ridiculous. Can we not have it again.
There are reasons for people to use xp, from "I can't afford something else"
to "I'm familiar with it" to "its what's on my old computers and I want to
play games on those too.".
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Re: [Audyssey] windows xp, was Re: VGStorm Presents Manamon, a new fully featured RPG!

[Jody McKinniss]

John,
Wow.  I never once said that anyone was an idiot.  I am merely
pointing out the advantages to an upgrade that some might be
overlooking.  I'm not suggesting that anyone trash their XP machine
necessarily.  I am merely suggesting that if they wish for the newer
games that are in development or have been released to work, perhaps
they should consider an upgrade in lieu of expecting the developer to
go out of their way to add backward compatibility for an operating
system that even the maker of doesn't support anymore.  And they might
want to think about the fact that Certain features that can be
implemented due to current standards in hardware and OS, ones that
make the game what it is in terms of audio or controls, may not be
available in XP.  I have no problem with a person that wants to keep
XP around for older things.  My only concern is a willingness to
summarily dismiss the idea that an upgrade mi9ght benefit them out of
hand without knowing the facts.  And just as a side note to you, no
matter how "ridiculous," you think this debate is, it's
constitutionally protected.

On 7/21/16, john  wrote:
> This debate is getting ridiculous. Can we not have it again.
> There are reasons for people to use xp, from "I can't afford something else"
>
> to "I'm familiar with it" to "its what's on my old computers and I want to
> play games on those too.".
> If you think people are idiots for using and xp and are going to suffer,
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