Re: [Ganglia-developers] Possibility of using different serialization format than XDR

2013-07-30 Thread Nicholas Satterly
Further improvements could probably be had in the arena of node multi-tenancy and/or arbitrary node grouping/clustering. Could you expand on what you mean by multi-tenancy, please? I'm curious. --Nick. On 29 Jul 2013, at 19:21, Dave Rawks d...@pandora.com wrote: I'm still trying to figure

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Possibility of using different serialization format than XDR

2013-07-30 Thread Chris Burroughs
On 07/29/2013 02:20 PM, Dave Rawks wrote: . I've never heard anybody have problems with our serialization, but there is frequent and often confusing troubleshooting around multicast vs unicast and the various infrastructural/configuration tweaks to make the most out of those. My

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Possibility of using different serialization format than XDR

2013-07-30 Thread Chris Burroughs
On 07/30/2013 02:45 AM, Nicholas Satterly wrote: Could you expand on what you mean by multi-tenancy, please? I'm curious. There is currently no application or other namespacing. If I have a bunch of java apps on the same box and they are all emitting jvm.memory.heap_usage, those metrics will

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Possibility of using different serialization format than XDR

2013-07-30 Thread Dave Rawks
On 07/30/2013 05:53 AM, Chris Burroughs wrote: On 07/30/2013 02:45 AM, Nicholas Satterly wrote: Could you expand on what you mean by multi-tenancy, please? I'm curious. There is currently no application or other namespacing. If I have a bunch of java apps on the same box and they are all

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Possibility of using different serialization format than XDR

2013-07-29 Thread Dave Rawks
I'm still trying to figure out what you're trying to improve here? XDR seems like a fine, standard, lightweight serialization protocol to use. It is already implemented and we've already got some protocol handling for backwards compat for really old ganglia monitor clients. What is there to

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Possibility of using different serialization format than XDR

2013-07-28 Thread Nikhil
Hi, Thanks for response. I see there is no averseness to the idea of considering different serialization format/protocol. Before we have any contribution in terms of code/specifications, what would be the ideal choice among these :

[Ganglia-developers] Possibility of using different serialization format than XDR

2013-07-26 Thread Nikhil
Hi, Considering that we have better and compute efficient and binary serialization open formats out there . How hard would it to make Ganglia use them instead of XDR ? Can the serialization format engines be pluggable, instead of being closely integrated with XDR? Is it still worth continuing to

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Possibility of using different serialization format than XDR

2013-07-26 Thread Dave Rawks
I'm curious to hear what you think is going to be more efficient, platform agnostic and portable than XDR? ASN1 would be the only thing I would even consider using instead, but it is arguable whether it would be worth the pain of supporting more than one serialization format and it certainly

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Possibility of using different serialization format than XDR

2013-07-26 Thread Vladimir Vuksan
I am not necessarily opposed to it if it's implemented in such a way not to break backwards compatibility. Someone would need to contribute some code. Vladimir On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Dave Rawks wrote: I'm curious to hear what you think is going to be more efficient, platform agnostic and