It amazes me how writers are suddenly qualified to offer second opinions to 
some of the best that Shands has to offer. He was cleared 100% by a TEAM OF 
DOCTORS! Not one, not two, but a TEAM! What a dork!

Randy

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  Subject: [gatornews] [CBSSports-GregDoyel] Gators' Meyer wins on scoreboard, 
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        Gators' Meyer wins on scoreboard, but fails by playing Tebow
              Oct. 11, 2009
              By Gregg Doyel
              CBSSports.com National Columnist
              Tell Gregg your opinion!   
             
              Florida quarterback Tim Tebow avoided reinjuring his concussed 
brain Saturday night against No. 4 LSU, and if your vision extends only to the 
end of your nose, you probably think UF coach Urban Meyer gambled and won. 

              Borrow somebody's binoculars and look again, because you're 
wrong. 

                        
                    Did Urban Meyer do the wrong thing by playing Tim Tebow? 
(US Presswire)    
              Florida won 13-3, but Meyer lost. Why? Because he gambled at all. 

              Meyer gambled Tebow's long-term quality of life, tossing Tebow's 
recently rattled brain onto the table like a 25-cent ante. At stake Saturday 
night was much more than a single win at Death Valley. Also on the line were 
SEC and national championships, an undefeated season, Meyer's own immortality. 
Meyer went all in by letting Tebow play two weeks after suffering a horrific 
concussion, gambling something that wasn't his to wager -- the health of his 
quarterback. Studies show that a second concussion for an athlete, so soon 
after the first, can lead to a lifetime of depression and even dementia. The 
odds of that second concussion coming Saturday night weren't great, no. But the 
odds were there. 

              So don't tell me Meyer won his gamble. I'm telling you, he lost 
his way. 

              This wasn't about football. This was about right and wrong, and 
playing Tebow was wrong. Only in the most limited viewpoint imaginable did 
Meyer win the battle Saturday night. Tebow didn't get hurt, Florida didn't get 
beat, so it's great, to be, a Florida Gator ... 

              No -- it's not. It's embarrassing to be a Florida Gator. It'll 
take a while for the sting of Meyer's stupid gamble to fade. He's the guy who 
hid behind team doctors after they made a guess -- an informed guess, an 
educated guess, but a guess nonetheless -- and cleared Tebow to play roughly 
eight hours before kickoff. 

              Think about the math of that. Two weeks had passed from the time 
Tebow was knocked senseless by Kentucky until he was cleared to play against 
LSU. Two weeks is 14 days, which is 336 hours. And Florida physicians needed 
328 of those hours -- 97.6 percent of the time available -- to make their best 
guess that Tebow would be safe to play. Doctors didn't go down to the wire to 
decide on a tender ankle or a knee. This was a rattled brain. Not to get all 
Confucius on you, but when a question about brain safety lasts two weeks, 
there's your answer. 

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              Concussion research is ongoing, and the acknowledged recovery 
time gets longer and longer, but as of today the minimum time for a player to 
return to action after suffering a concussion like Tebow suffered is thought to 
be two weeks. That's the minimum. Playing Tebow after the minimum recovery 
period was a meathead move, the modern-day equivalent of rubbing dirt on a 
bruise or withholding water at practice because dehydration would toughen a 
player up. 

              It's stupid and dangerous, is my point. In the future, when more 
and better concussion research is conducted and the minimum recovery time for 
such a brutal football knockout is extended to three weeks or even a month -- 
and that day is coming, I promise you -- people will look back on Meyer's 
decision to play Tebow against LSU on Oct. 10, 2009, as a dodged bullet. Meyer 
will say he didn't know. He had no idea. Two weeks wasn't enough recovery time 
for Tebow to play against LSU back in October 2009? Really? Meyer didn't know. 
That'll be his story. 

              But he did know. That'll be the truth. 

              After two weeks of rest, starting with a humble regimen of no 
television, Tebow wasn't cleared until hours before kickoff. And then he wasn't 
allowed to play like he normally would. The Gators usually have Tebow run the 
spread option, letting him decide whether to hand the ball off or pull it from 
the back's belly and run it himself. Tebow wasn't allowed to do that Saturday 
night, not until late in the game when the Gators really needed some short 
yardage. 

              Why wasn't Tim Tebow allowed to play like Tim Tebow for 3½ 
quarters? Because Meyer knew. He knew Tebow's brain wasn't ready to be hit. Not 
all the way. Meyer protected Tebow from contact as much as he could, which 
means he knew the risk was there -- which means Tebow shouldn't have been on 
the field in the first place. You saw the game. You know I'm right. 

              Good news: Tebow's brain survived. 

              Bad news: Meyer's integrity did not. 


                    Talk Back 
                    trnsilver 
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                   October 11, 2009 8:06 pm Score: 192 Log-in to rate:a.. 
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                          It sucks to have Doyel as a Florida GatorSimply put, 
Doyell is an absolute idiot.  The chances and effects of a second concussion 
would have been the same if they happened Saturday night, in two months, in six 
months or in a year.  Once a person recovers from a concussion, there is no 
difference whatsoever in regard to if/when they get their next one.

                          Get a docterate in medicine before you spout off this 
abso ...(more)  
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                    ChopShop 
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                   October 11, 2009 8:38 pm Score: 173 Log-in to rate:a.. 
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                          Actually Doyle is right on this oneDoyle's point is 
correct. If Tebow was ready to play last night he should have been pronounced 
ready to play Friday, maybe Thursday. A game time decision on a concussion? 
Goodness. Unless the decision had already been made the Florida waited until 
game time for the hype and Big Mo. Really do not believe Florida needed Tebow 
to eke out a win at LSU. LSU is a good football team, but their offense is 
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                    brownje 
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                   October 11, 2009 7:39 pm Score: 138 Log-in to rate:a.. 
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                          I'm going to side with medical school on this oneThis 
is ridiculous.  Why should Urban think he's smarter than doctors?
                          If a Dr. says he can play, and he does, where's the 
argument?
                          Every concussion is different, so a hard and fast 
rule does not apply.  He was under the constant scrutiny of many doctors, 
experts in this area, and Urban got as much information as he could.  And in 
the end, sided with the experts instead o ...(more)  
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                    g8trfan_1 
                     
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                   October 11, 2009 7:36 pm Score: 112 Log-in to rate:a.. 
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                          So everyone is wrong except you?The doctors cleared 
Tebow to play. Tebow wanted to play. Tebows parents wanted him to play. Yet you 
alone are the person who knows more about Tebows health than any of them?

                          Care to share the inside information you had on this 
that one of us were privy to? Because I know you wouldn't be on here spouting 
off an inane opinion as fact with no supporting evidence. I'll wait...
                         
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                    kwa612 
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                          c'mon doyleyou could live your whole life and not 
even get 10% of the care and expert attention that this man got. if the best 
medical minds gave the all clear why shouldn't he play?

                          i guess if tebow was killed on the way to the stadium 
in an accident that would have been myers fault for allowing him to travel with 
the team.

                          get real!  
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