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From: "Jayesh D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Date: Sun Jan 15, 2006  3:59 pm 
Subject: The Rip-off Debate  de_joy 
 i,

The `Rip-off for Teetotallers' debate that I had initiated is long 
dead and
gone. However I wish put on record my personal response to the 
various
points of view made by my fellow Group members. My professional 
occupation
hardly renders me anytime to respond individually to every mail the
discussion thread. This is the earliest I could get down to putting 
in a
mail.



With all I humility I would like concede that being a member of the
Organising Group, I blindly approved the deal that GB had made with 
the host
establishment Karma. Being not aware of what the deal was apart from 
the Rs.
1500/- cover charge. I landed at the venue trusting that my cribbing 
for the
whole of last year for a fair deal for teetotallers would have made 
my
fellow organisers make sure that they don't give me a reason to crib 
again.
Without taking any responsibility for my actions I threw my fury at 
all of
you, a sorry thing to happen at the end of a fabulous party, another 
GB
"success" story. Yes, its all my fault and I apologise for that.



However does a majority decision that is unfair for minority make a 
majority
decision fair? Teetotaller gaymen who are a minority within a larger
minority of gays, seem to be at the receiving end of the same 
attitude as
that of the straights towards the gays. The decision was discussed 
everyone
over the mailing list. How representative is the mailing list of the 
true GB
Party Patronage?



GB's focus as I understand was to create a space "a safe space" for 
all
sections of the gay community. However the party tariff created a 
situation,
though unintentional, divided the community on grounds of not 
affordability
but unreasonable disparity in value for money. The teetotallers have 
to
shell out more for the same space.



The 2005 New Year Eve Party had an attendance 550 and another 50-60 
who were
denied entry due to lack of space at the venue. Humsafar Drop-in 
Centre too
had its own party at Madh Island, which had a 300 odd attendance. If 
this
year there was no option available, what does an attendance of less 
that 450
speak for itself? Where did the GB Party patronage go? Haven't we 
lost them
to something like an unfair tariff? A successful party certainly in 
terms of
operations but is it terms of patronage….????



I guess my fellow organisers got carried away in getting an 
unlimited booze
deal. But I am told that most people who consume alcoholic beverages 
are
moderate drinkers. Than what's the need of ordering a tap flowing 
with
booze?



The only demand I would have for future parties is to have juices 
available
against one coupon((valued at Rs. 50/-) and not two.



Anyway, this is an debate that can go back and forth. Lets agree to 
disagree
and close the debate here.

Jayesh








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