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Re: Why are GCC Internals not Specification Driven ?

2016-12-19 Thread DJ Delorie
Seima Rao writes: > Has gcc become proprietory/commercial ? By definition: no, yes. It's been this way since the beginning, and hasn't changed in decades. > Or has it become illegal to publish specification models > of gcc internals ? Does this make the product sell less ? This

Re: Do we really need a CPP manual?

2016-12-19 Thread Florian Weimer
On 12/19/2016 07:17 PM, Joseph Myers wrote: When BSI consulted on the ISO strategic plan consultation for 2016-2020 my response said that all standards should be freely licensed (I said 'I would like to see these points reflected in BSI's response to ISO. ... Thus: the goal for ISO should be to

Re: Question about ASMCONS

2016-12-19 Thread Claudiu Zissulescu
On 19/12/2016 18:06, Segher Boessenkool wrote: Hi Claudiu, On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:28:54PM +, Claudiu Zissulescu wrote: I have the following rtl before asmcons pass: (insn 8 13 9 2 (set (reg:SI 157 [ list ]) (asm_operands:SI ("") ("=g") 0 [ (const:SI (unspec:SI [

Re: Do we really need a CPP manual?

2016-12-19 Thread Joseph Myers
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 12/16/2016 07:06 PM, Jeff Law wrote: > > > That's likely the manual RMS kept asking folks (semi-privately) to > > review. My response was consistently that such review should happen > > publicly, which RMS opposed for reasons I don't recall. > > >

Re: Question about ASMCONS

2016-12-19 Thread Segher Boessenkool
Hi Claudiu, On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:28:54PM +, Claudiu Zissulescu wrote: > I have the following rtl before asmcons pass: > > (insn 8 13 9 2 (set (reg:SI 157 [ list ]) > (asm_operands:SI ("") ("=g") 0 [ > (const:SI (unspec:SI [ > (symbol_r

Re: GCC libatomic ABI specification draft

2016-12-19 Thread Torvald Riegel
On Fri, 2016-12-02 at 12:13 +0100, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 11:13:37AM -0800, Bin Fan at Work wrote: > > Hi Szabolcs, > > > > > On Nov 29, 2016, at 3:11 AM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > > > > > > On 17/11/16 20:12, Bin Fan wrote: > > >> > > >> Although this ABI specification s

Re: Do we really need a CPP manual?

2016-12-19 Thread Florian Weimer
On 12/16/2016 07:06 PM, Jeff Law wrote: That's likely the manual RMS kept asking folks (semi-privately) to review. My response was consistently that such review should happen publicly, which RMS opposed for reasons I don't recall. I don't see that manual as part of the GCC project and I certai

Question about ASMCONS

2016-12-19 Thread Claudiu Zissulescu
Hi guys, I have the following rtl before asmcons pass: (insn 8 13 9 2 (set (reg:SI 157 [ list ]) (asm_operands:SI ("") ("=g") 0 [ (const:SI (unspec:SI [ (symbol_ref:SI ("c_const") [flags 0x2] ) ] ARC_UNSPEC_GOTOFFPC))

Re: Why are GCC Internals not Specification Driven ?

2016-12-19 Thread Seima Rao
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > On 19 December 2016 at 10:17, Seima Rao wrote: >> I was referring to one of three approaches: >> >> i) Write a Specification document and a matching testsuite >> >> ii) Document _all_ data and code together with file formats >>(e.g. dum

Re: Why are GCC Internals not Specification Driven ?

2016-12-19 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 19 December 2016 at 10:17, Seima Rao wrote: > I was referring to one of three approaches: > > i) Write a Specification document and a matching testsuite > > ii) Document _all_ data and code together with file formats >(e.g. dumps). > > iii) Both (i) & (ii) > > (i) is easy I disagree. A fun

Re: Why are GCC Internals not Specification Driven ?

2016-12-19 Thread Seima Rao
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 11:49 PM, NightStrike wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 18/12/16 02:33, Seima Rao wrote: >>> Precisely, stuffs like GENERIC, GIMPLE, RTL, gas(inline assembly), >>> GCC extensions internals, ... and gnu's own debugging tied to gcc