Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-07-04 Thread Kevin Bowling
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > [I proposed removing RIOS support, since it heavily gets in the way > for my project exposing the XER[CA] flag]. > >> My argument is simply this, sorry if it wasn't clear in the last >> email, bottom line up front: >> - It can just as eas

Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-07-02 Thread Segher Boessenkool
[I proposed removing RIOS support, since it heavily gets in the way for my project exposing the XER[CA] flag]. My argument is simply this, sorry if it wasn't clear in the last email, bottom line up front: - It can just as easily be removed in the future if it is broken for more than one release

Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-06-29 Thread Kevin Bowling
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:51 PM, David Edelsohn wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Kevin Bowling > wrote: > >> This is an unfortunate attitude many people have in free software >> these days, especially big business contributors with profit-aligned >> motives.  Linus weighs in on a simila

Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-06-29 Thread David Edelsohn
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Kevin Bowling wrote: > My argument is simply this, sorry if it wasn't clear in the last > email, bottom line up front: > - It can just as easily be removed in the future if it is broken for > more than one release rather than evicting support. > - It shouldn't add

Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-06-29 Thread David Edelsohn
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Kevin Bowling wrote: > This is an unfortunate attitude many people have in free software > these days, especially big business contributors with profit-aligned > motives.  Linus weighs in on a similar dissent here: > http://lwn.net/Articles/339455/. This is just

Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-06-29 Thread Andrew Pinski
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Kevin Bowling wrote: > My argument is simply this, sorry if it wasn't clear in the last > email, bottom line up front: > - It can just as easily be removed in the future if it is broken for > more than one release rather than evicting support. > - It shouldn't add

Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-06-29 Thread Kevin Bowling
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Steven Bosscher wrote: > On 6/30/10, Kevin Bowling wrote: >>> GCC's mission is not to >>> support every system in a computer history museum.  Older versions of >>> GCC created at the time of those systems still will work on those >>> systems. >>> >> >> >> This is

Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-06-29 Thread Steven Bosscher
On 6/30/10, Kevin Bowling wrote: >> GCC's mission is not to >> support every system in a computer history museum. Older versions of >> GCC created at the time of those systems still will work on those >> systems. >> > > > This is an unfortunate attitude many people have in free software > these d

Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-06-29 Thread Kevin Bowling
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:09 AM, David Edelsohn wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Kevin Bowling > wrote: >> In the GCC 4.5 announcement: >> >> "Support for the classic POWER architecture implemented in the >> original RIOS and RIOS2 processors of the old IBM RS/6000 product line >> has b

Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-06-29 Thread David Edelsohn
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Kevin Bowling wrote: > In the GCC 4.5 announcement: > > "Support for the classic POWER architecture implemented in the > original RIOS and RIOS2 processors of the old IBM RS/6000 product line > has been obsoleted in the rs6000 port. This does not affect the new > g

Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-06-29 Thread Kevin Bowling
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 06/29/2010 06:53 AM, Kevin Bowling wrote: >> In the GCC 4.5 announcement: >> >> "Support for the classic POWER architecture implemented in the >> original RIOS and RIOS2 processors of the old IBM RS/6000 product line >> has been obsoleted

Re: Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-06-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/29/2010 06:53 AM, Kevin Bowling wrote: > In the GCC 4.5 announcement: > > "Support for the classic POWER architecture implemented in the > original RIOS and RIOS2 processors of the old IBM RS/6000 product line > has been obsoleted in the rs6000 port. This does not affect the new > generation

Power/PowerPC RIOS/RIOS2 obsolescence

2010-06-28 Thread Kevin Bowling
In the GCC 4.5 announcement: "Support for the classic POWER architecture implemented in the original RIOS and RIOS2 processors of the old IBM RS/6000 product line has been obsoleted in the rs6000 port. This does not affect the new generation Power and PowerPC architectures." What needs to be done