Re: Bugzilla wishes (Was: Volunteer for bug summaries?)

2007-05-29 Thread Joe Buck
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 07:29:33AM -0400, Daniel Berlin wrote: On 5/28/07, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 02:06:21PM -0400, Daniel Berlin wrote: I have to look into bugzilla 3.0 migration first though. Bugzilla 3.0 introduces a custom fields

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-29 Thread Mark Mitchell
Daniel Berlin wrote: 1. Add a field to bugzilla for the SVN revision at which a particular regression was introduced. Display that in bugzilla as a link to the online SVN history browser so that clicking on a link takes us from the PR straight to the checkin. This field value ought to be

Re: Bugzilla wishes (Was: Volunteer for bug summaries?)

2007-05-29 Thread Daniel Berlin
On 5/29/07, Joe Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 07:29:33AM -0400, Daniel Berlin wrote: On 5/28/07, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 02:06:21PM -0400, Daniel Berlin wrote: . You can customize what fields are shown on the

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-28 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 10:02:02AM -0700, Joe Buck wrote: Mark Mitchell wrote: 1. Add a field to bugzilla for the SVN revision at which a particular regression was introduced. Display that in bugzilla as a link to the online SVN history browser so that clicking on a link takes us from the

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-23 Thread Brooks Moses
Mark Mitchell wrote: 1. Add a field to bugzilla for the SVN revision at which a particular regression was introduced. Display that in bugzilla as a link to the online SVN history browser so that clicking on a link takes us from the PR straight to the checkin. This field value ought to be the

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-23 Thread Joe Buck
Mark Mitchell wrote: 1. Add a field to bugzilla for the SVN revision at which a particular regression was introduced. Display that in bugzilla as a link to the online SVN history browser so that clicking on a link takes us from the PR straight to the checkin. This field value ought to be

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-23 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Wed, 2007-05-23 10:02:02 -0700, Joe Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Bugzilla field is just a string, so it's possible to put a range there as well as a single number. The mathematical form for an open/closed range could be used: (working_rev,failing_rev] to indicate that the bad

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-23 Thread Daniel Berlin
On 5/22/07, Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Lance Taylor wrote: [Danny, please see below for a request for your help.] It's a reasonable idea, but overall it would have a negative effect. People tend to ignore PRs that are assigned to somebody else; they assume that person is

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Mon, 2007-05-21 15:35:53 -0700, Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a volunteer who would like to help prepare a regular list of P3-and-higher PRs, together with -- where known -- the name of the person responsible for the checkin which caused the regression? Or, is this

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Manuel López-Ibáñez
On 22/05/07, Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-21 15:35:53 -0700, Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a volunteer who would like to help prepare a regular list of P3-and-higher PRs, together with -- where known -- the name of the person responsible for the

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Tue, 2007-05-22 08:50:59 +0100, Manuel López-Ibáñez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/05/07, Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-21 15:35:53 -0700, Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a volunteer who would like to help prepare a regular list of

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread François-Xavier Coudert
Hi, When the commit which introduced the regression is known, why not simply assign the bug to the committer? Surely, people do follow regularly the bugs that are assigned to them, don't they? In my opinion, all regressions should always be assigned to someone, at all times. Either to the

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Richard Guenther
On 5/22/07, François-Xavier Coudert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When the commit which introduced the regression is known, why not simply assign the bug to the committer? Surely, people do follow regularly the bugs that are assigned to them, don't they? In my opinion, all regressions should

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Joe Buck
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 06:13:58PM +0200, François-Xavier Coudert wrote: CCing the person who caused the regression is more appropriate. Assigning bugs to them detracts others from fixing the bug. We already do that, and in lots of cases it doesn't work. CCing is not coercive enough, you

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread François-Xavier Coudert
We already do that, and in lots of cases it doesn't work. CCing is not coercive enough, you only receive a few more mails (and some people don't even read their bugzilla mail). Coercion isn't an option that is available to us. Hum, I checked the Merriam-Webster dictionary, and clearly

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Janis Johnson
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 10:11:27AM +0200, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-22 08:50:59 +0100, Manuel López-Ibáñez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/05/07, Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-21 15:35:53 -0700, Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
François-Xavier Coudert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When the commit which introduced the regression is known, why not simply assign the bug to the committer? Surely, people do follow regularly the bugs that are assigned to them, don't they? In practice, no, they don't. In my opinion, all

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Manuel López-Ibáñez
On 22/05/07, Joe Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 06:13:58PM +0200, François-Xavier Coudert wrote: CCing the person who caused the regression is more appropriate. Assigning bugs to them detracts others from fixing the bug. We already do that, and in lots of cases it

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread David Edelsohn
Joe Buck writes: Joe This implies that you think it is the patch author's job to fix the Joe problem. And if the patch were incorrect, you'd have an argument. Joe But in this case, it seems that the patch is correct, but it exposes Joe a problem elsewhere in the compiler (one of Kenner's famous

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Daniel Berlin
On 5/21/07, Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've received some feedback suggesting that some contributors may not always be aware of what open issues are available to work on, and, perhaps more importantly, what regressions they may have caused. Is there a volunteer who would like to

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Andrew Pinski
On 5/22/07, François-Xavier Coudert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take PR31095, for example. It's a 4.3 regression on x86 and x86_64 that is triggered on the GCC testsuite, it has been known for more than 2 months, Janis kindly did a reghunt a month ago to attribute it, the patch author was added in

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Daniel Berlin
On 5/22/07, François-Xavier Coudert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCing the person who caused the regression is more appropriate. Assigning bugs to them detracts others from fixing the bug. We already do that, and in lots of cases it doesn't work. CCing is not coercive enough, you only receive a

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-22 Thread Mark Mitchell
Ian Lance Taylor wrote: [Danny, please see below for a request for your help.] It's a reasonable idea, but overall it would have a negative effect. People tend to ignore PRs that are assigned to somebody else; they assume that person is actually working on them. Conversely, people won't

Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-21 Thread Mark Mitchell
I've received some feedback suggesting that some contributors may not always be aware of what open issues are available to work on, and, perhaps more importantly, what regressions they may have caused. Is there a volunteer who would like to help prepare a regular list of P3-and-higher PRs,

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-21 Thread Joe Buck
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 03:35:53PM -0700, Mark Mitchell wrote: Is there a volunteer who would like to help prepare a regular list of P3-and-higher PRs, together with -- where known -- the name of the person responsible for the checkin which caused the regression? Or, is this something that

Re: Volunteer for bug summaries?

2007-05-21 Thread Wei Chen
is is very difficult work? i did't know whether i can competent for it. i'.m a volunteer. On 5/22/07, Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've received some feedback suggesting that some contributors may not always be aware of what open issues are available to work on, and, perhaps more