Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-26 Thread DJ Delorie
Marketing loves high numbers after all! If you truly think this way, we're going to have to revoke your hacker's license ;-)

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-25 Thread Georg-Johann Lay
DJ Delorie schrieb: Ian Lance Taylor writes: Also the fact that GCC is now written in C++ seems to me to be deserving of a bump to 5.0. I see no reason why an internal design change that has no user visible effects should have any impact on the version number. Changing the implementation

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-25 Thread Richard Biener
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Jeff Law l...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/05/2012 07:43 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: Ian Lance Taylor i...@google.com writes: Also the fact that GCC is now written in C++ seems to me to be deserving of a bump to 5.0. I see no reason why an internal design change that

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-11 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/11/2012 04:47 AM, NightStrike wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 6:20 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/10/2012 04:45 AM, NightStrike wrote: Making c99 the default for gcc would be a great candidate for this. IIUC, gcc without -std=c99 will compile for c89. And if I read the

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-10 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/10/2012 04:45 AM, NightStrike wrote: Making c99 the default for gcc would be a great candidate for this. IIUC, gcc without -std=c99 will compile for c89. And if I read the manual correctly, it's because c99 isn't finished yet. gcc 5.0 should have a complete c99. Should in what sense?

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-10 Thread Joseph S. Myers
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012, NightStrike wrote: Making c99 the default for gcc would be a great candidate for this. IIUC, gcc without -std=c99 will compile for c89. And if I read the manual correctly, it's because c99 isn't finished yet. gcc 5.0 should have a complete c99. The reason gnu99 is not

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-10 Thread NightStrike
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 6:20 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/10/2012 04:45 AM, NightStrike wrote: Making c99 the default for gcc would be a great candidate for this. IIUC, gcc without -std=c99 will compile for c89. And if I read the manual correctly, it's because c99 isn't

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-09 Thread Paolo Bonzini
Il 06/11/2012 03:43, DJ Delorie ha scritto: Ian Lance Taylor i...@google.com writes: Also the fact that GCC is now written in C++ seems to me to be deserving of a bump to 5.0. I see no reason why an internal design change that has no user visible effects should have any impact on the

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-09 Thread NightStrike
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Jonathan Wakely jwakely@gmail.com wrote: On 6 November 2012 09:16, Florian Weimer wrote: On 11/06/2012 07:06 AM, Jeff Law wrote: I tend to agree that major version number bumps ought to be tied to major user-visible changes. Or a new ABI for

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-06 Thread Florian Weimer
On 11/06/2012 07:06 AM, Jeff Law wrote: I tend to agree that major version number bumps ought to be tied to major user-visible changes. I think dropping reload would quality, particularly if there are other major user visible changes going on. For example, significant improvements in

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-06 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 6 November 2012 09:16, Florian Weimer wrote: On 11/06/2012 07:06 AM, Jeff Law wrote: I tend to agree that major version number bumps ought to be tied to major user-visible changes. It wasn't for GCC 4.0, but I'm not suggesting it should be done again. The new C++ parser and ABI in GCC 3.4

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-06 Thread Steven Bosscher
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Steven Bosscher wrote: On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:34:15 +, Dave Korn wrote: Say, why don't we reserve GCC 5.0 for the first version that gets rid of reload? Then let's see if we can get there while the

Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-05 Thread Steven Bosscher
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:34:15 +, Dave Korn wrote: Say, why don't we reserve GCC 5.0 for the first version that gets rid of reload? Then let's see if we can get there while the X in 4.X is still in single digits! (see http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2010-03/msg01103.html) I suppose

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-05 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Steven Bosscher stevenb@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:34:15 +, Dave Korn wrote: Say, why don't we reserve GCC 5.0 for the first version that gets rid of reload? Then let's see if we can get there while the X in 4.X is still in single

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-05 Thread Diego Novillo
On 2012-11-05 16:17 , Ian Lance Taylor wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Steven Bosscher stevenb@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:34:15 +, Dave Korn wrote: Say, why don't we reserve GCC 5.0 for the first version that gets rid of reload? Then let's see if we can get

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-05 Thread DJ Delorie
Ian Lance Taylor i...@google.com writes: Also the fact that GCC is now written in C++ seems to me to be deserving of a bump to 5.0. I see no reason why an internal design change that has no user visible effects should have any impact on the version number. Typically a major version bump is

Re: Time for GCC 5.0? (TIC)

2012-11-05 Thread Jeff Law
On 11/05/2012 07:43 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: Ian Lance Taylor i...@google.com writes: Also the fact that GCC is now written in C++ seems to me to be deserving of a bump to 5.0. I see no reason why an internal design change that has no user visible effects should have any impact on the version