[Bug rtl-optimization/107167] It looks like GCC wastes registers on trivial computations when result can be cached

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107167 Andrew Pinski changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|normal |enhancement Keywords|

[Bug rtl-optimization/107167] New: It looks like GCC wastes registers on trivial computations when result can be cached

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107167 Bug ID: 107167 Summary: It looks like GCC wastes registers on trivial computations when result can be cached Product: gcc Version: 13.0 Status: UNCONFIRMED

[Bug c/107166] "useless type name in empty declaration" diagnostic may refer to wrong location

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 Andrew Pinski changed: What|Removed |Added Last reconfirmed||2022-10-06 Ever confirmed|0

[Bug c/107166] "useless type name in empty declaration" diagnostic may refer to wrong location

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 Andrew Pinski changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|normal |minor

[Bug c++/55578] Disabling warnings inside macro definition doesn't work

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55578 Lewis Hyatt changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|---

[Bug c++/55578] Disabling warnings inside macro definition doesn't work

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55578 --- Comment #12 from Vadim Zeitlin --- Thanks for looking at this! I'm happy to hear that the problem is fixed in 11.2, but I'm probably not going to change our code anyhow, especially as we're going to finally drop support for C++98 very soon

[Bug c/107166] New: "useless type name in empty declaration" diagnostic may refer to wrong location

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 Bug ID: 107166 Summary: "useless type name in empty declaration" diagnostic may refer to wrong location Product: gcc Version: 13.0 Status: UNCONFIRMED

[Bug c++/107165] Downcasting in constexpr, error: "accessing value of `...Derived::’ through a ‘Derived’ glvalue in a constant expression"

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107165 Andrew Pinski changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

[Bug c++/103879] error: accessing value of variant::_Copy_ctor_base through a 'const variant' glvalue in a constant expression

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=103879 Andrew Pinski changed: What|Removed |Added CC||petr.azmanov at wartsila dot com ---

[Bug c++/107165] Downcasting in constexpr, error: "accessing value of `...Derived::’ through a ‘Derived’ glvalue in a constant expression"

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107165 --- Comment #1 from Andrew Pinski --- Note since it was fixed in GCC 12.1.0 and it does not look like a regression, this will be closed as fixed for GCC 12 after bisecting to the patch which fixed it and the fix won't be backported to GCC 11.x.

[Bug c++/107165] New: Downcasting in constexpr, error: "accessing value of `...Derived::’ through a ‘Derived’ glvalue in a constant expression"

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107165 Bug ID: 107165 Summary: Downcasting in constexpr, error: "accessing value of `...Derived::’ through a ‘Derived’ glvalue in a constant expression" Product: gcc

[Bug c++/55578] Disabling warnings inside macro definition doesn't work

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55578 --- Comment #11 from Lewis Hyatt --- (In reply to Vadim Zeitlin from comment #10) > There definitely was a change in behaviour in gcc 11 because I had to make > this change > > https://github.com/wxWidgets/wxWidgets/commit/ >

[Bug c/107164] No pedantic warning for declaration just referring to a previously-declared enum type

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107164 --- Comment #1 from Andrew Pinski --- clang says it is a GCC extension: :2:6: warning: redeclaration of already-defined enum 'E' is a GNU extension [-Wgnu-redeclared-enum] enum E; ^ :1:6: note: previous definition is here enum E {a,b,c};

[Bug c/107164] New: No pedantic warning for declaration just referring to a previously-declared enum type

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107164 Bug ID: 107164 Summary: No pedantic warning for declaration just referring to a previously-declared enum type Product: gcc Version: 13.0 Status: UNCONFIRMED

[Bug fortran/107000] ICE in gfc_real2complex, at fortran/arith.cc:2243

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107000 --- Comment #23 from anlauf at gcc dot gnu.org --- (In reply to Steve Kargl from comment #22) > In looking at the patch, there is a > >gcc_assert (op1->ts.type != BT_UNKNOWN); > > in reduce_binary_ac() near line 1334 and > >

[Bug c++/107163] [10/11/12/13 Regression] huge Compile time increase when using templated base classes, virtual method, and Wall since r10-2823-g6a07489267e55084

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107163 --- Comment #2 from Jonathan Wakely --- Yes, using -std=gnu++14 makes GCC 11 as fast as GCC 8.

[Bug analyzer/107158] False postives from -Wanalyzer-malloc-leak on tin-2.6.2

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107158 --- Comment #5 from urs at akk dot org --- Now (git @ e99dcbb54e07b798c3353124f38336f96a826d43; same $CFLAGS and source file) during IPA pass: analyzer ./makecfg.c: In function ‘parse_tbl’: ./makecfg.c:150:25: internal compiler error: in

[Bug middle-end/107047] load introduced of struct fields after assigning it to a local variable

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107047 Andrew Pinski changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|unassigned at gcc dot gnu.org |pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org

[Bug c++/107163] [10/11/12/13 Regression] huge Compile time when using templated base classes, virtual method, and Wall since r10-2823-g6a07489267e55084

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107163 Andrew Pinski changed: What|Removed |Added Target Milestone|--- |10.5 Summary|Compile time

[Bug c++/107163] Compile time regression when using templated base classes, virtual method, and Wall since r10-2823-g6a07489267e55084

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107163 Martin Liška changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Last reconfirmed|

[Bug c++/107163] New: Compile time regression when using templated base classes, virtual method, and Wall

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107163 Bug ID: 107163 Summary: Compile time regression when using templated base classes, virtual method, and Wall Product: gcc Version: 11.3.1 Status: UNCONFIRMED

[Bug c/107162] New: -Wmisleading-indentation is blinded by comments

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107162 Bug ID: 107162 Summary: -Wmisleading-indentation is blinded by comments Product: gcc Version: 12.1.0 Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P3

[Bug analyzer/107060] -fanalyzer unbearably slow when compiling GNU Emacs

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107060 --- Comment #8 from David Malcolm --- The patch for PR analyzer/107072 and the above patch mean that we get more reasonable summaries when using -fanalyzer-call-summaries. Unfortunately: - it actually slows down the analysis for PR 107060 on

[Bug analyzer/107158] False postives from -Wanalyzer-malloc-leak on tin-2.6.2

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107158 David Malcolm changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|internal compiler error: in |False postives from

[Bug target/106562] PRU: Inefficient code for zero check of 64-bit (boolean) AND result

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=106562 --- Comment #2 from Dimitar Dimitrov --- With cbranchdi4 defined, the generated code is now 10 instructions: test: qbne.L5, r15, 0 qbeq.L4, r14, 0 .L5: rsb r0, r16, 0 rsc r1, r17, 0 or

[Bug analyzer/107158] internal compiler error: in get_or_create_cluster, at analyzer/store.cc:2832

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107158 --- Comment #3 from CVS Commits --- The master branch has been updated by David Malcolm : https://gcc.gnu.org/g:ef878564140cbcf23f479da88e07e5a996cec6bb commit r13-3096-gef878564140cbcf23f479da88e07e5a996cec6bb Author: David Malcolm Date:

[Bug analyzer/107060] -fanalyzer unbearably slow when compiling GNU Emacs

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107060 --- Comment #7 from CVS Commits --- The master branch has been updated by David Malcolm : https://gcc.gnu.org/g:6832c95c0e1a58ba4d342ec002000f9d9d7db5ca commit r13-3094-g6832c95c0e1a58ba4d342ec002000f9d9d7db5ca Author: David Malcolm Date:

[Bug c++/107161] gcc doesn't constant fold member if any other member is mutable

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107161 Andrew Pinski changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|normal |enhancement Keywords|

[Bug c++/107161] New: gcc doesn't constant fold member if any other member is mutable

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107161 Bug ID: 107161 Summary: gcc doesn't constant fold member if any other member is mutable Product: gcc Version: 12.2.0 Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal

[Bug c++/107097] Implement floating point excess precision in C++

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107097 --- Comment #6 from Jakub Jelinek --- Perhaps try to look up the implicit conversion using the semantic type (i.e. with EXCESS_PRECISION_EXPR not stripped) and then if it is a standard conversion (which exact?) from EXCESS_PRECISION to

[Bug analyzer/107158] internal compiler error: in get_or_create_cluster, at analyzer/store.cc:2832

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107158 David Malcolm changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |ASSIGNED Ever confirmed|0

[Bug target/103109] madd not used for multiply add on POWER9

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=103109 --- Comment #3 from Peter Bergner --- (In reply to HaoChen Gui from comment #2) > Fixed by r13-2107. This is marked version = GCC 12. Were you planning on backporting this?

[Bug c++/107097] Implement floating point excess precision in C++

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107097 --- Comment #5 from Jakub Jelinek --- Seems in that case we loose the precision in: #0 fold_convert_loc (loc=0, type=, arg=) at ../../gcc/fold-const.cc:2436 #1 0x0049c414 in cxx_eval_constant_expression (ctx=0x7fffcc90, t=,

[Bug c++/107097] Implement floating point excess precision in C++

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107097 Jakub Jelinek changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #53667|0 |1 is obsolete|

[Bug target/107160] New: [13 regression] r13-2641-g0ee1548d96884d causes verification failure in spec2006

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107160 Bug ID: 107160 Summary: [13 regression] r13-2641-g0ee1548d96884d causes verification failure in spec2006 Product: gcc Version: 13.0 Status: UNCONFIRMED

[Bug other/107159] New: x86_64-elf freestanding target should by default build -mno-red-zone and -m32 multi-lib

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107159 Bug ID: 107159 Summary: x86_64-elf freestanding target should by default build -mno-red-zone and -m32 multi-lib Product: gcc Version: 13.0 Status: UNCONFIRMED

[Bug fortran/107000] ICE in gfc_real2complex, at fortran/arith.cc:2243

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107000 --- Comment #22 from Steve Kargl --- On Tue, Oct 04, 2022 at 09:20:33PM +, anlauf at gcc dot gnu.org wrote: > https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107000 > > --- Comment #21 from anlauf at gcc dot gnu.org --- > Submitted:

[Bug c++/107085] __reference_constructs_from_temporary does not detect static up-cast

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107085 --- Comment #10 from Marek Polacek --- Even more simplified: struct X { virtual void f(); }; struct Z : X {}; constexpr X x = X(Z()); I guess we shouldn't try to force_elide X::X(X&&) here because X is a potentially-overlapping subobject.

[Bug libgcc/104833] disable-threads don't work for x86_64-linux-gnu target

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=104833 cqwrteur changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|---

[Bug libstdc++/107139] Time to remove #if _GLIBCXX_HOSTED guard for coroutine for freestanding

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107139 cqwrteur changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |FIXED Status|UNCONFIRMED

[Bug analyzer/107158] internal compiler error: in get_or_create_cluster, at analyzer/store.cc:2832

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107158 --- Comment #1 from urs at akk dot org --- Created attachment 53668 --> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=53668=edit internal compiler error: in get_or_create_cluster, at analyzer/store.cc:2832

[Bug analyzer/107158] New: internal compiler error: in get_or_create_cluster, at analyzer/store.cc:2832

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107158 Bug ID: 107158 Summary: internal compiler error: in get_or_create_cluster, at analyzer/store.cc:2832 Product: gcc Version: 13.0 Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity:

[Bug c++/107085] __reference_constructs_from_temporary does not detect static up-cast

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107085 --- Comment #9 from Marek Polacek --- A distilled test that ICEs with the patch: struct X { virtual void f(); }; struct Z : X {}; constexpr auto x = sizeof((X(Z(; s.C:5:33: internal compiler error: in build_over_call, at

[Bug c++/89997] Garbled expression in error message with -fconcepts

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89997 --- Comment #6 from Mathias Stearn --- > I think this is probably not concepts-specific, and just another variant of > PR 49152. Perhaps the busted pretty printer is a general problem, but at least in this case I think the fix may be in

[Bug fortran/107157] New: Weird out-of-bounds error with multiple move_alloc's

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107157 Bug ID: 107157 Summary: Weird out-of-bounds error with multiple move_alloc's Product: gcc Version: 12.1.0 Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P3

[Bug c++/89997] Garbled expression in error message with -fconcepts

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89997 Jonathan Wakely changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzill

[Bug c++/89997] Garbled expression in error message with -fconcepts

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89997 Jonathan Wakely changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|WORKSFORME |--- Ever confirmed|0

[Bug c/107156] ICE in lookup_attribute_by_prefix, at attribs.h:239 since r13-2976-g3a3516bc4a0a0307

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107156 Martin Liška changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |FIXED Status|ASSIGNED

[Bug c/107156] ICE in lookup_attribute_by_prefix, at attribs.h:239 since r13-2976-g3a3516bc4a0a0307

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107156 --- Comment #4 from CVS Commits --- The master branch has been updated by Martin Liska : https://gcc.gnu.org/g:0afa9dfb8fb3302db7f104add5654436927dcb56 commit r13-3088-g0afa9dfb8fb3302db7f104add5654436927dcb56 Author: Martin Liska Date:

[Bug c++/89997] Garbled expression in error message with -fconcepts

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89997 --- Comment #3 from Mathias Stearn --- Please reopen. It still seems to be broken with -std=c++20 as the only flag: https://godbolt.org/z/bWMq4s6xb (trunk) https://godbolt.org/z/W3xWjWaGe (12.2) Output: : In function 'void test()': :16:15:

[Bug tree-optimization/107052] Range of __builtin_popcount can be improved with nonzerobits

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107052 --- Comment #6 from CVS Commits --- The master branch has been updated by Aldy Hernandez : https://gcc.gnu.org/g:ae56d600d223e996054483d7d7033ec8e258d39d commit r13-3085-gae56d600d223e996054483d7d7033ec8e258d39d Author: Aldy Hernandez Date:

[Bug tree-optimization/107052] Range of __builtin_popcount can be improved with nonzerobits

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107052 Aldy Hernandez changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|---

[Bug tree-optimization/107052] Range of __builtin_popcount can be improved with nonzerobits

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107052 --- Comment #7 from CVS Commits --- The master branch has been updated by Aldy Hernandez : https://gcc.gnu.org/g:4c451631f722c9939260a5c2fc209802a47e525f commit r13-3086-g4c451631f722c9939260a5c2fc209802a47e525f Author: Aldy Hernandez Date:

[Bug target/107076] ICE in gen_untyped_call, at config/i386/i386.md:15992

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107076 Martin Liška changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|marxin at gcc dot gnu.org |unassigned at gcc dot gnu.org

[Bug tree-optimization/88443] [meta-bug] bogus/missing -Wstringop-overflow warnings

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88443 Bug 88443 depends on bug 106698, which changed state. Bug 106698 Summary: bogus -Wstringop-overflow warning on Ada code with LTO https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=106698 What|Removed |Added

[Bug tree-optimization/106698] bogus -Wstringop-overflow warning on Ada code with LTO

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=106698 Eric Botcazou changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED Target Milestone|---

[Bug c/107156] ICE in lookup_attribute_by_prefix, at attribs.h:239 since r13-2976-g3a3516bc4a0a0307

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107156 Martin Liška changed: What|Removed |Added Target Milestone|--- |13.0

[Bug tree-optimization/106698] bogus -Wstringop-overflow warning on Ada code with LTO

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=106698 --- Comment #3 from CVS Commits --- The master branch has been updated by Eric Botcazou : https://gcc.gnu.org/g:853ce8eea4ff97850a987167e603387b3d0f1401 commit r13-3084-g853ce8eea4ff97850a987167e603387b3d0f1401 Author: Eric Botcazou Date:

[Bug c/107156] ICE in lookup_attribute_by_prefix, at attribs.h:239 since r13-2976-g3a3516bc4a0a0307

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107156 Martin Liška changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||patch --- Comment #3 from Martin Liška

[Bug c/107156] ice in lookup_attribute_by_prefix, at attribs.h:239

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107156 Martin Liška changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 Last reconfirmed|

[Bug target/107155] ppc_intrinsics is missing

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107155 --- Comment #3 from Iain Sandoe --- The discussion in the duplicate issue revolves around whether the header in the sources was suitable (i.e. for something != cell). The Apple header (which presumably does not have these contraints, since it

[Bug tree-optimization/106679] [13 regression] gcc.dg/tree-prof/cmpsf-1.c fails after r13-2098-g5adfb6540db95d

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=106679 Martin Liška changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |FIXED CC|

[Bug tree-optimization/106679] [13 regression] gcc.dg/tree-prof/cmpsf-1.c fails after r13-2098-g5adfb6540db95d

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=106679 --- Comment #6 from CVS Commits --- The master branch has been updated by Martin Liska : https://gcc.gnu.org/g:233c966dba5012938a1f84e14c26b52d507b2aae commit r13-3082-g233c966dba5012938a1f84e14c26b52d507b2aae Author: Martin Liska Date:

[Bug tree-optimization/106698] `-O2 -flto` cause linker warning

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=106698 Eric Botcazou changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Assignee|unassigned

[Bug tree-optimization/106698] `-O2 -flto` cause linker warning

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=106698 Eric Botcazou changed: What|Removed |Added CC||ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org

[Bug c/107156] ice in lookup_attribute_by_prefix, at attribs.h:239

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107156 David Binderman changed: What|Removed |Added CC||joseph at codesourcery dot com ---

[Bug c/107156] New: ice in lookup_attribute_by_prefix, at attribs.h:239

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107156 Bug ID: 107156 Summary: ice in lookup_attribute_by_prefix, at attribs.h:239 Product: gcc Version: 12.0 Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P3

[Bug c++/107151] Specializing a concepted template can emit bogus assembly

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107151 --- Comment #2 from Jonathan Wakely --- I think this is PR 100825

[Bug c++/89997] Garbled expression in error message with -fconcepts

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89997 Jonathan Wakely changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

[Bug c++/107151] Specializing a concepted template can emit bogus assembly

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107151 Martin Liška changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Last reconfirmed|

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Xingwu Factory

Dear customer My name is Liu Qi. nice to meet you. Xingwu Factory is a foundry from Hebei Province, China, with a history of 28 years. The company produces nodular cast iron and gray cast iron, and has three 2-ton electric furnaces with an annual output of 2 tons of castings. Our factory

[Bug c++/107085] __reference_constructs_from_temporary does not detect static up-cast

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=107085 --- Comment #8 from Jonathan Wakely --- (In reply to Marek Polacek from comment #6) > where we bind 'b' to the Base subobject of a temporary Derived object, yes? Yes, exactly right.