Re: Remove separate tarballs

2011-06-17 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Andrew Haley wrote: > As long as it doesn't suffer bitrot, it doesn't much matter whether > gcj is a part of a single gcc tarball or not. That may be the case for most GNU/Linux distros. On Gentoo or FreeBSD, for example, thousands and thousands of users (of the FreeBSD port

Re: Remove separate tarballs

2011-06-16 Thread Andrew Haley
On 16/06/11 01:43, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Andrew Haley wrote: >>> The vast majority of users does not need the former and the latter is >>> on the verge of becoming practically irrelevant. As one datapoint, the >>> entire FreeBSD Ports Collection has a single(!) port relying o

Re: Remove separate tarballs

2011-06-15 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Andrew Haley wrote: >> The vast majority of users does not need the former and the latter is >> on the verge of becoming practically irrelevant. As one datapoint, the >> entire FreeBSD Ports Collection has a single(!) port relying on GCJ. > It's not quite as irrelevant as you t

Re: Remove separate tarballs

2011-06-07 Thread Andrew Haley
On 05/29/2011 02:07 AM, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > > The vast majority of users does not need the former and the latter is > on the verge of becoming practically irrelevant. As one datapoint, the > entire FreeBSD Ports Collection has a single(!) port relying on GCJ. It's not quite as irrelevant as

Re: Remove separate tarballs

2011-06-07 Thread Joseph S. Myers
On Sun, 29 May 2011, Richard Guenther wrote: > For libjava I would argue to split out only libjava/classpath which > is what we drop in (in a slightly modified form?) from elsewhere. > So splitting that would eventually make sense (maybe even > with making java also compile w/o that classpath dir)

Re: Remove separate tarballs

2011-06-07 Thread Joseph S. Myers
On Sun, 29 May 2011, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > ...at least having the testsuite and Java separate makes a lot of sense. > > The vast majority of users does not need the former and the latter is If building GCC from source, running tests is generally considered a good idea... > on the verge of be

Re: Remove separate tarballs

2011-05-29 Thread Richard Guenther
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2011, Nicola Pero wrote: >> Yes ... on the other hand, this does not address the other issue, which >> is the amount of disk space that you need to actually uncompress the >> tarballs :-( >> >> Unpacking gcc-4.6.0.tar.xx requi

Re: Remove separate tarballs

2011-05-28 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Nicola Pero wrote: > Yes ... on the other hand, this does not address the other issue, which > is the amount of disk space that you need to actually uncompress the > tarballs :-( > > Unpacking gcc-4.6.0.tar.xx requires about 600 MB. Unpacking > gcc-core-4.6.0.tar.xx > requi

Re: Remove separate tarballs (was: Re: objc patch (was Re: Problem to install GCC 4.6.0 with Objective-C language))

2011-05-23 Thread Nicola Pero
Maybe we can offer an additional compression format like lzma .xz which brings down 4.5.3 compressed size from 66MB bz2 to 52MB (with -7). But that can be decided separately. Yes ... on the other hand, this does not address the other issue, which is the amount of disk space that you need

Re: Remove separate tarballs (was: Re: objc patch (was Re: Problem to install GCC 4.6.0 with Objective-C language))

2011-05-22 Thread Richard Guenther
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Joseph S. Myers wrote: > On Sat, 21 May 2011, Nicola Pero wrote: > >> As a consequence, GTFILES is different depending on whether >> ${srcdir}/gcc/cp/ exists or not.  If it exists, usually the cp gtfiles >> come before the objc ones (due to alphabetical ordering by

Remove separate tarballs (was: Re: objc patch (was Re: Problem to install GCC 4.6.0 with Objective-C language))

2011-05-21 Thread Joseph S. Myers
On Sat, 21 May 2011, Nicola Pero wrote: > As a consequence, GTFILES is different depending on whether > ${srcdir}/gcc/cp/ exists or not. If it exists, usually the cp gtfiles > come before the objc ones (due to alphabetical ordering by the shell, > I'd guess ?), and the cp gtfiles contain c-fam