Re: [gdal-dev] Understanding VSI caching

2018-04-09 Thread Even Rouault
On lundi 9 avril 2018 21:03:12 CEST Andrea Aime wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Even Rouault 
> 
> wrote:
> > Which disk caching are you refering too ? There's some disk caching for
> > the
> > WMS driver, but that's all
> 
> "In addition, a global least-recently-used cache of 16 MB shared among all
> downloaded content is enabled by default, and content in it may be reused
> after a file handle has been closed and reopen. Starting with GDAL 2.3, the
> size of this global LRU cache can be modified by setting the configuration
> option CPL_VSIL_CURL_CACHE_SIZE (in bytes)."

Ah, it probably means a precision "during the life-time of the process or 
until VSICurlClearCache() is called" (just added). It's just a RAM cache.

> 
> and I see in the code:
> 
> https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/blob/master/gdal/port/cpl_vsil_curl.cpp#L203
> 
> (btw, there is no path, does it mean the file is created in the current
> directory?)

Yes, that was the more or less dead code I was mentionning too. Actually it is 
compiled in, and can be enabled with CPL_VSIL_CURL_USE_CACHE=YES, but it is 
very likely broken, unfit for any reasonable purpose etc. No warranty. Consult 
your lawyer, be sure you have a fallout shelter ready, etc ;-)

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Re: [gdal-dev] Understanding VSI caching

2018-04-09 Thread Andrea Aime
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Even Rouault 
wrote:

> Which disk caching are you refering too ? There's some disk caching for the
> WMS driver, but that's all
>
>
"In addition, a global least-recently-used cache of 16 MB shared among all
downloaded content is enabled by default, and content in it may be reused
after a file handle has been closed and reopen. Starting with GDAL 2.3, the
size of this global LRU cache can be modified by setting the configuration
option CPL_VSIL_CURL_CACHE_SIZE (in bytes)."

and I see in the code:

https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/blob/master/gdal/port/cpl_vsil_curl.cpp#L203

(btw, there is no path, does it mean the file is created in the current
directory?)



> (well there's some provisional code for disk caching in /vsicurl/ but it is
> not compiled by default, and probably broken. There was some discussion
> recently on the ML about this if I remember well)
>

I'll check the archives.

Cheers
Andrea

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Re: [gdal-dev] Understanding VSI caching

2018-04-09 Thread Even Rouault
> I read there was some caching, but was not that specific. So, memory
> caching is there, it's per file,
> but not enabled by default,

Yes

> while disk caching is there, global, and
> enabled by default?

Which disk caching are you refering too ? There's some disk caching for the 
WMS driver, but that's all

(well there's some provisional code for disk caching in /vsicurl/ but it is 
not compiled by default, and probably broken. There was some discussion 
recently on the ML about this if I remember well)

> 
> The "detect sequential reading" part is interesting, if I'm not mistaken
> the logic is here,
> right?
> 
> https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/blob/master/gdal/port/cpl_vsil_curl.cpp#L1845

Yes

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Re: [gdal-dev] Understanding VSI caching

2018-04-09 Thread Andrea Aime
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Even Rouault 
wrote:

> Hi Andrea,
>
> Are you speaking about the cache machanism enabled with the VSI_CACHE=YES
> env variable ?
>

I read there was some caching, but was not that specific. So, memory
caching is there, it's per file,
but not enabled by default, while disk caching is there, global, and
enabled by default?


> If so that's described at
> http://gdal.org/gdal_virtual_file_systems.html#gdal_
> virtual_file_systems_vsicache
> I see it lacks a bit high level details, like specifying this is RAM only,
> and not disk cached.
> I'm going to add some words about that
>
> Otherwise, the full "documentation" :-) is at:
> https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/blob/master/gdal/port/cpl_vsil_cache.cpp


Hehehe :-)


> The /vsicurl/ and related network file systems have also their own RAM
> cache mechanism
> described at
> http://gdal.org/gdal_virtual_file_systems.html#gdal_
> virtual_file_systems_vsicurl


The "detect sequential reading" part is interesting, if I'm not mistaken
the logic is here,
right?

https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/blob/master/gdal/port/cpl_vsil_curl.cpp#L1845

Thanks a lot for the useful information, as usual :-)

Cheers
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Re: [gdal-dev] Understanding VSI caching

2018-04-09 Thread Even Rouault
On lundi 9 avril 2018 18:33:32 CEST Andrea Aime wrote:
> Hi,
> is there any document explaning how VSI caching works. E.g., memory vs disk
> caching, whether the disk cache
> is long lived or exists only for the duration of the process (and if so,
> what about long lived processes
> like mapserver fastcgi?) and so on?

Hi Andrea,

Are you speaking about the cache machanism enabled with the VSI_CACHE=YES env 
variable ?
If so that's described at
http://gdal.org/gdal_virtual_file_systems.html#gdal_virtual_file_systems_vsicache
I see it lacks a bit high level details, like specifying this is RAM only, and 
not disk cached.
I'm going to add some words about that

Otherwise, the full "documentation" :-) is at:
https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/blob/master/gdal/port/cpl_vsil_cache.cpp

The /vsicurl/ and related network file systems have also their own RAM cache 
mechanism
described at
http://gdal.org/gdal_virtual_file_systems.html#gdal_virtual_file_systems_vsicurl

Even

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[gdal-dev] Understanding VSI caching

2018-04-09 Thread Andrea Aime
Hi,
is there any document explaning how VSI caching works. E.g., memory vs disk
caching, whether the disk cache
is long lived or exists only for the duration of the process (and if so,
what about long lived processes
like mapserver fastcgi?) and so on?

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