Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Lex Trotman
On 18 November 2010 10:16, Colomban Wendling wrote: > Le 17/11/2010 23:09, Lex Trotman a écrit : >> On 18 November 2010 03:36, Colomban Wendling >> wrote: >>> Le 17/11/2010 02:17, Lex Trotman a écrit : > It would need the plugin to something like "dynamically load Geany", > while assumin

Re: [Geany-devel] Geany FTW - better autocompletion

2010-11-17 Thread Lex Trotman
On 18 November 2010 11:10, Colomban Wendling wrote: > Le 17/11/2010 23:45, Enrico Tröger a écrit : >> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:34:03 +1100, Lex wrote: >> >>> On 18 November 2010 04:05, Colomban Wendling >>> wrote: Le 17/11/2010 15:54, Nick Treleaven a écrit : > On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:32:01

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Lex Trotman
On 18 November 2010 10:43, Thomas Martitz wrote: > On 17.11.2010 23:29, Enrico Tröger wrote: >> >> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:52:40 +1100, Lex wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> I don't want to go too deep into this discussion, just my cents: >> >> To keep it shorter, I'm 100% agree with Colomban's statements. >

Re: [Geany-devel] Geany FTW - better autocompletion

2010-11-17 Thread Colomban Wendling
Le 17/11/2010 23:45, Enrico Tröger a écrit : > On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:34:03 +1100, Lex wrote: > >> On 18 November 2010 04:05, Colomban Wendling >> wrote: >>> Le 17/11/2010 15:54, Nick Treleaven a écrit : On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:32:01 +0100 Simone Pellegrini wrote: > I really li

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Lex Trotman
2010/11/18 Enrico Tröger : > On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:55:35 +1100, Lex wrote: > >>2010/11/18 Enrico Tröger : >>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:52:40 +1100, Lex wrote: >>> >>> Hey, >>> >>> I don't want to go too deep into this discussion, just my cents: >>> >>> To keep it shorter, I'm 100% agree with Colomba

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Thomas Martitz
On 17.11.2010 23:29, Enrico Tröger wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:52:40 +1100, Lex wrote: Hey, I don't want to go too deep into this discussion, just my cents: To keep it shorter, I'm 100% agree with Colomban's statements. I also 100% agree. Plugin development shouldn't be a PITA. The curre

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Thomas Martitz
On 18.11.2010 00:31, Enrico Tröger wrote: I do agree. It was not to hide the discussion or anything. I was just making some changes to the plugins' build system or tested something or whatever and stumpled upon the error. So I made the little patch, sent it to Frank and added a note that even af

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Enrico Tröger
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:14:20 +0100, Thomas wrote: >On 15.11.2010 22:58, Enrico Tröger wrote: >> >> I talked with Frank about this already in a private mail, also >> joining a patch to integrate it in the autotools build. Now he has >> two patches to choose :). > >IMO you (core) developers talk too

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Enrico Tröger
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:55:35 +1100, Lex wrote: >2010/11/18 Enrico Tröger : >> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:52:40 +1100, Lex wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> I don't want to go too deep into this discussion, just my cents: >> >> To keep it shorter, I'm 100% agree with Colomban's statements. >> >> >>>As Geany is g

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Colomban Wendling
Le 17/11/2010 23:09, Lex Trotman a écrit : > On 18 November 2010 03:36, Colomban Wendling > wrote: >> Le 17/11/2010 02:17, Lex Trotman a écrit : It would need the plugin to something like "dynamically load Geany", while assuming that Geany has an unstable API. This is IMHO really c

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Thomas Martitz
On 15.11.2010 22:58, Enrico Tröger wrote: I talked with Frank about this already in a private mail, also joining a patch to integrate it in the autotools build. Now he has two patches to choose :). IMO you (core) developers talk too much in private sometimes. The development process, includin

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Lex Trotman
2010/11/18 Enrico Tröger : > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:52:40 +1100, Lex wrote: > > Hey, > > I don't want to go too deep into this discussion, just my cents: > > To keep it shorter, I'm 100% agree with Colomban's statements. > > >>As Geany is getting more and more functionality in plugins there needs >

Re: [Geany-devel] Geany FTW - better autocompletion

2010-11-17 Thread Enrico Tröger
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:34:03 +1100, Lex wrote: >On 18 November 2010 04:05, Colomban Wendling > wrote: >> Le 17/11/2010 15:54, Nick Treleaven a écrit : >>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:32:01 +0100 >>> Simone Pellegrini wrote: >>> I really like geany as it uses scintilla, the only feature I feel >>>

Re: [Geany-devel] Geany FTW - better autocompletion

2010-11-17 Thread Lex Trotman
On 18 November 2010 04:05, Colomban Wendling wrote: > Le 17/11/2010 15:54, Nick Treleaven a écrit : >> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:32:01 +0100 >> Simone Pellegrini wrote: >> >>> I really like geany as it uses scintilla, the only feature I feel is >>> missing is the intellisense like code competition f

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Enrico Tröger
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:52:40 +1100, Lex wrote: Hey, I don't want to go too deep into this discussion, just my cents: To keep it shorter, I'm 100% agree with Colomban's statements. >As Geany is getting more and more functionality in plugins there needs >to be more thought in general about the n

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Lex Trotman
On 18 November 2010 04:49, Frank Lanitz wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:52:40 +1100 > Lex Trotman wrote: > >> > >> > This is not existing in a general view. Also I'm not 100% sure where >> > this would make sense as you should always you up to date API. >> > Maybe you can bring a litle light into

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Lex Trotman
On 18 November 2010 03:36, Colomban Wendling wrote: > Le 17/11/2010 02:17, Lex Trotman a écrit : >>> It would need the plugin to something like "dynamically load Geany", >>> while assuming that Geany has an unstable API. This is IMHO really >>> complicated to deal with correctly, and I don't think

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:36:21 +0100 Colomban Wendling wrote: > Le 17/11/2010 02:17, Lex Trotman a écrit : > >> It would need the plugin to something like "dynamically load > >> Geany", while assuming that Geany has an unstable API. This is > >> IMHO really complicated to deal with correctly, and I

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:52:40 +1100 Lex Trotman wrote: > > > > This is not existing in a general view. Also I'm not 100% sure where > > this would make sense as you should always you up to date API. > > Maybe you can bring a litle light into darkness with an example. > > > > Frank, > > As Geany

Re: [Geany-devel] Geany FTW - better autocompletion

2010-11-17 Thread Colomban Wendling
Le 17/11/2010 15:54, Nick Treleaven a écrit : > On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:32:01 +0100 > Simone Pellegrini wrote: > >> I really like geany as it uses scintilla, the only feature I feel is >> missing is the intellisense like code competition for C++. I would like >> to ask if anyone is working on a

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Colomban Wendling
Le 17/11/2010 02:17, Lex Trotman a écrit : >> It would need the plugin to something like "dynamically load Geany", >> while assuming that Geany has an unstable API. This is IMHO really >> complicated to deal with correctly, and I don't think that not having to >> recompile a plugin is a sufficient

Re: [Geany-devel] Geany FTW - better autocompletion

2010-11-17 Thread Nick Treleaven
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:32:01 +0100 Simone Pellegrini wrote: > I really like geany as it uses scintilla, the only feature I feel is > missing is the intellisense like code competition for C++. I would like > to ask if anyone is working on a better code competition for C++. I am > not talking ab

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Lex Trotman
> > This is not existing in a general view. Also I'm not 100% sure where > this would make sense as you should always you up to date API. Maybe you > can bring a litle light into darkness with an example. > Frank, As Geany is getting more and more functionality in plugins there needs to be more t

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 17.11.2010 01:03, schrieb Lex Trotman: > On 17 November 2010 10:22, Colomban Wendling > wrote: >> Le 16/11/2010 23:32, Lex Trotman a écrit : >>> On 17 November 2010 03:11, Frank Lanitz wrote: >>> Just a question, shouldn't plugins be checking the ABI version was >>> what they conpiled with no

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 17.11.2010 00:22, schrieb Colomban Wendling: > Le 16/11/2010 23:32, Lex Trotman a écrit : >> On 17 November 2010 03:11, Frank Lanitz wrote: >>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:13:03 +0100 >>> Colomban Wendling wrote: >>> Le 16/11/2010 09:23, Frank Lanitz a écrit : > Well, agreed. In most cases

Re: [Geany-devel] geany-plugins depends on GIO

2010-11-17 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 16.11.2010 23:32, schrieb Lex Trotman: > On 17 November 2010 03:11, Frank Lanitz wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:13:03 +0100 >> Colomban Wendling wrote: >> >>> Le 16/11/2010 09:23, Frank Lanitz a écrit : Well, agreed. In most cases it should work fine with compiled in version number