Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
Am 06.10.2011 23:01, schrieb Enrico Tröger: On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:43:42 -0700, Matthew wrote: On 11-10-05 04:23 PM, Colomban Wendling wrote: Le 03/10/2011 23:02, Enrico Tröger a écrit : While I usually plead for free software I'd also vote for Github in this regard. In the last weeks I started to use it for smaller personal stuff just to get it hosted somewhere, easily. And it worked. Github is just damn easy, fast and intuitive. While I have not much experience with Gitorious, it feels more like the opposite. Though this is just my personal opinion. Well then, let's try GitHub. I also prefer FOSS everywhere, but GitHub We should make a completely separate GitHub account called geany, then convert it into an Organization[1], which allows all kinds of more neat features for a project like Geany (as opposed to having it as a Personal account). See an example FOSS project account here[2]. I will volunteer to handle setting up an Organization account and with the initial setup for service hooks and stuff. Yeehaw. Er, I think this is a good idea. Then we could also migrate the talks and newsletter repositories from git.geany.org to Github into the Geany organisation since these two repositories are no read-only mirror repositories and so better fit together with the rest of the project's code at one place. +1 And we could integrate the geany-plugins' repository there. I'm currently thinking of an approach how to do the flow with git as the general workflow differs a bit from Geany itself. Will come up with a workflow proposal after 0.21 release but moving to github also in general is a good idea. Cheers, Frank ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
Hi Guys SILLY question ! and yes I know I can google but thought you guys might have a goto guide for it ?? Since Geany is going to git... and i've (please tell me I'm not the only one) have never used git (as an active developer) So wat in your opinion was the best intro/tutorial/manual about Git that you have read ? I.e if your mom wants to learn git where would you point her ? :) Regards Jacques On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Matthew Brush mbr...@codebrainz.ca wrote: On 11-10-05 04:23 PM, Colomban Wendling wrote: Le 03/10/2011 23:02, Enrico Tröger a écrit : While I usually plead for free software I'd also vote for Github in this regard. In the last weeks I started to use it for smaller personal stuff just to get it hosted somewhere, easily. And it worked. Github is just damn easy, fast and intuitive. While I have not much experience with Gitorious, it feels more like the opposite. Though this is just my personal opinion. Well then, let's try GitHub. I also prefer FOSS everywhere, but GitHub We should make a completely separate GitHub account called geany, then convert it into an Organization[1], which allows all kinds of more neat features for a project like Geany (as opposed to having it as a Personal account). See an example FOSS project account here[2]. I will volunteer to handle setting up an Organization account and with the initial setup for service hooks and stuff. Cheers, Matthew Brush [1] https://github.com/blog/674-introducing-organizations [2] https://github.com/mongodb ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
On 6 October 2011 17:35, Jacques du Rand jacque...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys SILLY question ! and yes I know I can google but thought you guys might have a goto guide for it ?? yeah, go to google :) everyday git, try that and/or tutorial all on the git site :) Cheers lex Since Geany is going to git... and i've (please tell me I'm not the only one) have never used git (as an active developer) everybody was a never user once So wat in your opinion was the best intro/tutorial/manual about Git that you have read ? I.e if your mom wants to learn git where would you point her ? :) Regards Jacques On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Matthew Brush mbr...@codebrainz.ca wrote: On 11-10-05 04:23 PM, Colomban Wendling wrote: Le 03/10/2011 23:02, Enrico Tröger a écrit : While I usually plead for free software I'd also vote for Github in this regard. In the last weeks I started to use it for smaller personal stuff just to get it hosted somewhere, easily. And it worked. Github is just damn easy, fast and intuitive. While I have not much experience with Gitorious, it feels more like the opposite. Though this is just my personal opinion. Well then, let's try GitHub. I also prefer FOSS everywhere, but GitHub We should make a completely separate GitHub account called geany, then convert it into an Organization[1], which allows all kinds of more neat features for a project like Geany (as opposed to having it as a Personal account). See an example FOSS project account here[2]. I will volunteer to handle setting up an Organization account and with the initial setup for service hooks and stuff. Cheers, Matthew Brush [1] https://github.com/blog/674-introducing-organizations [2] https://github.com/mongodb ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 01:23, Colomban Wendling lists@herbesfolles.org wrote: Le 03/10/2011 23:02, Enrico Tröger a écrit : On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:28:14 +0200, Colomban wrote: Hi all, Now the release is out, it's time for the real migration. There's things to do then, and perhaps a few we still need to agree on. Yay, yay, yay. @all: We will switch to Git, and we need to choose basically between GitHub and Gitorious. I'd vote for trying GitHub, just because it has one thing I quite liked and that Gitorious don't seem to have: comments on a particular While I usually plead for free software I'd also vote for Github in this regard. In the last weeks I started to use it for smaller personal stuff just to get it hosted somewhere, easily. And it worked. Github is just damn easy, fast and intuitive. While I have not much experience with Gitorious, it feels more like the opposite. Though this is just my personal opinion. Well then, let's try GitHub. I also prefer FOSS everywhere, but GitHub seems to be at least working fine, stable stuff. And as we don't stop to say, we can anyway switch to another host if it feels too bad at some point. Of course keeping the same hosting is easier for people tracking the repo, but it's not really hard to change the remote either if there is a good reason to do so. Finally, we'll need to all (at least committers -- Nick, Enrico, Frank and I --, Enrico and I) work a bit together to do the switch: * committers needs to stop committing to SVN when export to Git starts * somebody (Jiří?) needs to export the SVN repo * somebody (me I think) need to setup an upstream repo on GitHub/Gitorious * we'll have to update everything that assume we commit to SF's SVN (some mirroring, commit ML, etc). Enrico, I guess we'll need you at Well, the GIT mirror at git.geany.org gets rather useless when Geany's source itself is maintained in GIT, if we want, we can keep it up running for backup or whatever purposes. I assume it's no problem to change the repository to pull from a real GIT repo instead of SVN. I'd like to see it still up as a mirror if you don't mind (heh, it's your server after all). This would also make us have a stable hosting since we could change it's origin if it actually moves. The commit mails may be more complicated, at least on Github there seems nothing ready-to-use AFAIK. They have the HTTP-Push hook which seems quite appropriate. We just need a script to receive that push and make it into a mail. However, I'm optimistic there is somewhere a usable implementation out there on the net. Matthew seems to suggest it may be easy, let's hope so :D Maybe I/you could try with another project just to see if this work, not to rush the final day ^^ I'd also need to adjust the nightly builds and some update scripts on geany.org but this is less important and can be done asynchronously, read later. The only critical to me are the commit mails. Great then, makes the plan looking even more reasonable :) So, we'll need to work together soon, and that'll need us to coordinate ourselves. So Jiří (if you accept re-exporting), Enrico, Nick and Frank: when can we do the actual switch? I can have the time whenever I want this week, I just need to know ;) I'm also for as soon as possible, upcoming weekend would be fine for me, ideally on Sunday. OK, let's say Sunday then since it seems to fit :) ACK. Would it be possible that I start with the conversion on Saturday evening already? First I'm not sure how much time I'll have on Sunday, second it gives us some time buffer if something goes wrong or if I need some further clarifications during the conversion. From your side it would just mean to stop comitting to SVN Saturday evening (let's say 6 P.M. CET which is GMT+2 during summer - recalculate it to your time zone). In any case, I'll send an announcement that I started with the conversion. Cheers, Jiri ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 10:52:44 +0200, Jiří wrote: OK, let's say Sunday then since it seems to fit :) ACK. Would it be possible that I start with the conversion on Saturday evening already? First I'm not sure how much time I'll have on Sunday, second it gives us some time buffer if something goes wrong or if I Good idea. I'd be fine with Saturday evening. need some further clarifications during the conversion. From your side it would just mean to stop comitting to SVN Saturday evening (let's say 6 P.M. CET which is GMT+2 during summer - recalculate it to your time zone). In any case, I'll send an announcement that I started with the conversion. Great. Regards, Enrico -- Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.asc pgpwMbf01ogk7.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 01:23:11 +0200, Colomban wrote: Heya, * we'll have to update everything that assume we commit to SF's SVN (some mirroring, commit ML, etc). Enrico, I guess we'll need you at Well, the GIT mirror at git.geany.org gets rather useless when Geany's source itself is maintained in GIT, if we want, we can keep it up running for backup or whatever purposes. I assume it's no problem to change the repository to pull from a real GIT repo instead of SVN. I'd like to see it still up as a mirror if you don't mind (heh, it's your server after all). This would also make us have a stable hosting since we could change it's origin if it actually moves. Ok, fine. Don't worry about the server, the GIT mirror is the least bit it has to do :D. The commit mails may be more complicated, at least on Github there seems nothing ready-to-use AFAIK. They have the HTTP-Push hook which seems quite appropriate. We just need a script to receive that push and make it into a mail. However, I'm optimistic there is somewhere a usable implementation out there on the net. Matthew seems to suggest it may be easy, let's hope so :D Maybe I/you could try with another project just to see if this work, not to rush the final day ^^ Will do. I'll start playing with this right now, so we are not that surprised on Sunday :D. So, we'll need to work together soon, and that'll need us to coordinate ourselves. So Jiří (if you accept re-exporting), Enrico, Nick and Frank: when can we do the actual switch? I can have the time whenever I want this week, I just need to know ;) I'm also for as soon as possible, upcoming weekend would be fine for me, ideally on Sunday. OK, let's say Sunday then since it seems to fit :) Great. Regards, Enrico -- Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.asc pgpm8HNdmZQVw.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:43:42 -0700, Matthew wrote: On 11-10-05 04:23 PM, Colomban Wendling wrote: Le 03/10/2011 23:02, Enrico Tröger a écrit : While I usually plead for free software I'd also vote for Github in this regard. In the last weeks I started to use it for smaller personal stuff just to get it hosted somewhere, easily. And it worked. Github is just damn easy, fast and intuitive. While I have not much experience with Gitorious, it feels more like the opposite. Though this is just my personal opinion. Well then, let's try GitHub. I also prefer FOSS everywhere, but GitHub We should make a completely separate GitHub account called geany, then convert it into an Organization[1], which allows all kinds of more neat features for a project like Geany (as opposed to having it as a Personal account). See an example FOSS project account here[2]. I will volunteer to handle setting up an Organization account and with the initial setup for service hooks and stuff. Yeehaw. Er, I think this is a good idea. Then we could also migrate the talks and newsletter repositories from git.geany.org to Github into the Geany organisation since these two repositories are no read-only mirror repositories and so better fit together with the rest of the project's code at one place. And we could integrate the geany-plugins' repository there. Regards, Enrico -- Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.asc pgp1RJD1IZuVw.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
Le 06/10/2011 22:35, Enrico Tröger a écrit : On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 10:52:44 +0200, Jiří wrote: OK, let's say Sunday then since it seems to fit :) ACK. Would it be possible that I start with the conversion on Saturday evening already? First I'm not sure how much time I'll have on Sunday, second it gives us some time buffer if something goes wrong or if I Good idea. I'd be fine with Saturday evening. +1, and I'm fine with Saturday evening too. need some further clarifications during the conversion. From your side it would just mean to stop comitting to SVN Saturday evening (let's say 6 P.M. CET which is GMT+2 during summer - recalculate it to your time zone). In any case, I'll send an announcement that I started with the conversion. Maybe CC Nick, I'm not sure he reads all ML's mail, and he better know it :) Cheers, Colomban ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
Le 06/10/2011 23:01, Enrico Tröger a écrit : On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:43:42 -0700, Matthew wrote: On 11-10-05 04:23 PM, Colomban Wendling wrote: Le 03/10/2011 23:02, Enrico Tröger a écrit : While I usually plead for free software I'd also vote for Github in this regard. In the last weeks I started to use it for smaller personal stuff just to get it hosted somewhere, easily. And it worked. Github is just damn easy, fast and intuitive. While I have not much experience with Gitorious, it feels more like the opposite. Though this is just my personal opinion. Well then, let's try GitHub. I also prefer FOSS everywhere, but GitHub We should make a completely separate GitHub account called geany, then convert it into an Organization[1], which allows all kinds of more neat features for a project like Geany (as opposed to having it as a Personal account). See an example FOSS project account here[2]. I will volunteer to handle setting up an Organization account and with the initial setup for service hooks and stuff. Yeehaw. Er, I think this is a good idea. Then we could also migrate the talks and newsletter repositories from git.geany.org to Github into the Geany organisation since these two repositories are no read-only mirror repositories and so better fit together with the rest of the project's code at one place. And we could integrate the geany-plugins' repository there. Good points, +1 :) Cheers, Colomban ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:17:44 -0700, Matthew wrote: On 11-10-03 02:02 PM, Enrico Tröger wrote: The commit mails may be more complicated, at least on Github there seems nothing ready-to-use AFAIK. They have the HTTP-Push hook which seems quite appropriate. We just need a script to receive that push and make it into a mail. However, I'm optimistic there is somewhere a usable implementation out there on the net. GitHub has an Email service hook, presumably you could get this to send a message to some mailing list. There's also a service hook for IRC. Oops, I must have overlooked it somehow or they just added it after I checked last time :D. Anyways, I tried setting it up and as some of you might have seen, a test commit mail gone through onto the list, so it works pretty straight and easy. Regards, Enrico -- Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.asc pgpeABouFCYIt.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
On 11-10-05 04:23 PM, Colomban Wendling wrote: Le 03/10/2011 23:02, Enrico Tröger a écrit : While I usually plead for free software I'd also vote for Github in this regard. In the last weeks I started to use it for smaller personal stuff just to get it hosted somewhere, easily. And it worked. Github is just damn easy, fast and intuitive. While I have not much experience with Gitorious, it feels more like the opposite. Though this is just my personal opinion. Well then, let's try GitHub. I also prefer FOSS everywhere, but GitHub We should make a completely separate GitHub account called geany, then convert it into an Organization[1], which allows all kinds of more neat features for a project like Geany (as opposed to having it as a Personal account). See an example FOSS project account here[2]. I will volunteer to handle setting up an Organization account and with the initial setup for service hooks and stuff. Cheers, Matthew Brush [1] https://github.com/blog/674-introducing-organizations [2] https://github.com/mongodb ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
[Geany-devel] Git switch (for real) (was: Re: geany on github; why not?)
Hi all, Now the release is out, it's time for the real migration. There's things to do then, and perhaps a few we still need to agree on. Le 05/09/2011 23:05, Jiří Techet a écrit : [...] End of the long email finally! I tried to record all what needs to be done so nothing is forgotten once the real migration takes place because some of the stuff took some time to discover. @Jiří: Would you mind doing the real export since you know have a little experience? @all: We will switch to Git, and we need to choose basically between GitHub and Gitorious. I'd vote for trying GitHub, just because it has one thing I quite liked and that Gitorious don't seem to have: comments on a particular commit's line. I did use it a few times with Matthew, and I felt it quite convenient to comment details [1] Apart that I don't mind, both have the necessary stuff, and Gitorious is more free as in freedom. Also, I think that we should at least try Vincent Driessen's branching model [2] (e.g. develop branch + feature branches + release branches). It might looks a bit containing at first glance, but also makes things clean -- but note I never tried it in a real project, maybe I'm wrong. Finally, we'll need to all (at least committers -- Nick, Enrico, Frank and I --, Enrico and I) work a bit together to do the switch: * committers needs to stop committing to SVN when export to Git starts * somebody (Jiří?) needs to export the SVN repo * somebody (me I think) need to setup an upstream repo on GitHub/Gitorious * we'll have to update everything that assume we commit to SF's SVN (some mirroring, commit ML, etc). Enrico, I guess we'll need you at least to help here still a bit, sorry ^^ So, we'll need to work together soon, and that'll need us to coordinate ourselves. So Jiří (if you accept re-exporting), Enrico, Nick and Frank: when can we do the actual switch? I can have the time whenever I want this week, I just need to know ;) It would be good if all this could be done as soon as possible so we can start development again using this new scheme. Sooner's better. Cheers, Colomban [1] I don't suggest to move all discussion outside the ML, far from me this idea. [2] http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real) (was: Re: geany on github; why not?)
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:28:14 +0200 Colomban Wendling lists@herbesfolles.org wrote: Frank: when can we do the actual switch? I can have the time whenever I want this week, I just need to know ;) I suggest weekend around 2011-10-29. At least at this weekend I've nothing planned yet. But IIRC Enrico was on travel at this date. Cheers, Frank -- http://frank.uvena.de/en/ pgpkhlPpD3mYx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real) (was: Re: geany on github; why not?)
Am Montag, den 03.10.2011, 17:28 +0200 schrieb Colomban Wendling: Apart that I don't mind, both have the necessary stuff, and Gitorious is more free as in freedom. Exactly the reason why I'd personally prefer Gitorous over Github. :) Regards, Dominic -- Dominic Hopf dma...@googlemail.com http://dominichopf.de/ Key Fingerprint: A7DF C4FC 07AE 4DDC 5CA0 BD93 AAB0 6019 CA7D 868D signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
Le 03/10/2011 17:32, Frank Lanitz a écrit : On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:28:14 +0200 Colomban Wendling lists@herbesfolles.org wrote: Frank: when can we do the actual switch? I can have the time whenever I want this week, I just need to know ;) I suggest weekend around 2011-10-29. At least at this weekend I've nothing planned yet. But IIRC Enrico was on travel at this date. I feel it a bit too far, but... However, I think that for normal committers (you, Nick), there's not much to do: 1) stop committing to SVN during the export; 2) create an account on the new hosting site if not already done; 3) tell the repo owner (me(?)) to grant you commit stuff rights; 4) start committing using Git on new host. Apart 1, you can even still commit during the process since Git is a DVCS, only push would require steps 2 and 3. I think this is pretty cheap and can probably be done in a couple of minutes, plus maybe another couple of minutes to read/check the new committing rules (e.g. push development commit to develop branch rather than master, etc.). The big part is the SVN export/import and porting of commit hooks, not sure if you have some? I'm not saying you shouldn't participate (the more qualified volunteers the better!), just that maybe if you haven't the time we can do by ourselves ;) Cheers, Colomban ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real) (was: Re: geany on github; why not?)
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 17:28, Colomban Wendling lists@herbesfolles.org wrote: Hi all, Now the release is out, it's time for the real migration. There's things to do then, and perhaps a few we still need to agree on. Le 05/09/2011 23:05, Jiří Techet a écrit : [...] End of the long email finally! I tried to record all what needs to be done so nothing is forgotten once the real migration takes place because some of the stuff took some time to discover. @Jiří: Would you mind doing the real export since you know have a little experience? Sure, no problem. Just one thing I'd like to mention - I may be a security problem. During the export I can modify any commit (e.g. to send me the contents of the editor by email) and you probably won't notice. On the other hand, the good thing is that: 1. I don't feel it's something I'd like to do (but you cannot be sure I'm telling you the truth) 2. You can compare the current state of master with your SVN checkout so you'll see immediately if there's something wrong with the top of trunk. I might modify some past commits but these would have lower impact because everyone either uses the latest trunk or the latest stable release. Actually what's much more probable is that I screw up the conversion somehow ;-). @all: We will switch to Git, and we need to choose basically between GitHub and Gitorious. I'd vote for trying GitHub, just because it has one thing I quite liked and that Gitorious don't seem to have: comments on a particular commit's line. I did use it a few times with Matthew, and I felt it quite convenient to comment details [1] Apart that I don't mind, both have the necessary stuff, and Gitorious is more free as in freedom. Also, I think that we should at least try Vincent Driessen's branching model [2] (e.g. develop branch + feature branches + release branches). It might looks a bit containing at first glance, but also makes things clean -- but note I never tried it in a real project, maybe I'm wrong. Finally, we'll need to all (at least committers -- Nick, Enrico, Frank and I --, Enrico and I) work a bit together to do the switch: * committers needs to stop committing to SVN when export to Git starts * somebody (Jiří?) needs to export the SVN repo * somebody (me I think) need to setup an upstream repo on GitHub/Gitorious * we'll have to update everything that assume we commit to SF's SVN (some mirroring, commit ML, etc). Enrico, I guess we'll need you at least to help here still a bit, sorry ^^ So, we'll need to work together soon, and that'll need us to coordinate ourselves. So Jiří (if you accept re-exporting), Enrico, Nick and Frank: when can we do the actual switch? I can have the time whenever I want this week, I just need to know ;) It would be good if all this could be done as soon as possible so we can start development again using this new scheme. Sooner's better. About the timing, I'd prefer this weekend. There have been suggestions like 2011-10-29 but this is my birthday and even though I like Geany, I want to spend my birthday in a different way than making git conversions ;-). Cheers, Jiri ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
Le 03/10/2011 18:59, Jiří Techet a écrit : On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 17:28, Colomban Wendling lists@herbesfolles.org wrote: Hi all, Now the release is out, it's time for the real migration. There's things to do then, and perhaps a few we still need to agree on. Le 05/09/2011 23:05, Jiří Techet a écrit : [...] End of the long email finally! I tried to record all what needs to be done so nothing is forgotten once the real migration takes place because some of the stuff took some time to discover. @Jiří: Would you mind doing the real export since you know have a little experience? Sure, no problem. Just one thing I'd like to mention - I may be a security problem. During the export I can modify any commit (e.g. to send me the contents of the editor by email) and you probably won't notice. On the other hand, the good thing is that: Right, good remark, though making it gives you even more credit ^^ 1. I don't feel it's something I'd like to do (but you cannot be sure I'm telling you the truth) Heh, thanks for willingness at least! 2. You can compare the current state of master with your SVN checkout so you'll see immediately if there's something wrong with the top of trunk. I might modify some past commits but these would have lower impact because everyone either uses the latest trunk or the latest stable release. Yeah, there are easy ways to check the result fits SVN HEAD. Checking older branches and tags are a bit harder, yet doable, but as you say yourself, it's less sensitive. And let's be honest, I could be the bad guy here too... ^^ Actually what's much more probable is that I screw up the conversion somehow ;-). Not better than I would do ;) [...] It would be good if all this could be done as soon as possible so we can start development again using this new scheme. Sooner's better. About the timing, I'd prefer this weekend. There have been suggestions like 2011-10-29 but this is my birthday and even though I like Geany, I want to spend my birthday in a different way than making git conversions ;-). I can't understand this, it's s selfish ;( (just kidding) Actually I feel would prefer it to be next weekend because it's sooner, and as said in another mail, I'm not sure we really need more than you, Enrico and I to complete it. Let's wait for Enrico's answer (if he's still on that ML, hehe!) and see when he got enough spare time to spend on it. Cheers, Colomban ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real) (was: Re: geany on github; why not?)
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:59:49 +0200 Jiří Techet tec...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 17:28, Colomban Wendling lists@herbesfolles.org wrote: Hi all, Now the release is out, it's time for the real migration. There's things to do then, and perhaps a few we still need to agree on. Le 05/09/2011 23:05, Jiří Techet a écrit : [...] End of the long email finally! I tried to record all what needs to be done so nothing is forgotten once the real migration takes place because some of the stuff took some time to discover. @Jiří: Would you mind doing the real export since you know have a little experience? Sure, no problem. Just one thing I'd like to mention - I may be a security problem. During the export I can modify any commit (e.g. to send me the contents of the editor by email) and you probably won't notice. On the other hand, the good thing is that: 1. I don't feel it's something I'd like to do (but you cannot be sure I'm telling you the truth) Well. We can verify the hash of source code after transition with the hash we do have signed on server or e.g. in our personal git repos. 2. You can compare the current state of master with your SVN checkout so you'll see immediately if there's something wrong with the top of trunk. I might modify some past commits but these would have lower impact because everyone either uses the latest trunk or the latest stable release. ACK. About the timing, I'd prefer this weekend. There have been suggestions like 2011-10-29 but this is my birthday and even though I like Geany, I want to spend my birthday in a different way than making git conversions ;-). I'm fine also with this. Cheers, Frank -- http://frank.uvena.de/en/ pgpg6rulPTbUC.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:29:25 +0200 Colomban Wendling lists@herbesfolles.org wrote: Le 03/10/2011 17:32, Frank Lanitz a écrit : On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:28:14 +0200 Colomban Wendling lists@herbesfolles.org wrote: Frank: when can we do the actual switch? I can have the time whenever I want this week, I just need to know ;) I suggest weekend around 2011-10-29. At least at this weekend I've nothing planned yet. But IIRC Enrico was on travel at this date. I feel it a bit too far, but... However, I think that for normal committers (you, Nick), there's not much to do: 1) stop committing to SVN during the export; 2) create an account on the new hosting site if not already done; 3) tell the repo owner (me(?)) to grant you commit stuff rights; 4) start committing using Git on new host. Apart 1, you can even still commit during the process since Git is a DVCS, only push would require steps 2 and 3. I think this is pretty cheap and can probably be done in a couple of minutes, plus maybe another couple of minutes to read/check the new committing rules (e.g. push development commit to develop branch rather than master, etc.). The big part is the SVN export/import and porting of commit hooks, not sure if you have some? I'm not saying you shouldn't participate (the more qualified volunteers the better!), just that maybe if you haven't the time we can do by ourselves ;) You asked for a date when I'm free so I looked up ;) But as mentioned in another mail also this weekend would be fine or any other date as I don't be involved this much at this phase. Cheers, Frank -- http://frank.uvena.de/en/ pgpSigdpp5NRB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
On 11-10-03 08:33 AM, Dominic Hopf wrote: Am Montag, den 03.10.2011, 17:28 +0200 schrieb Colomban Wendling: Apart that I don't mind, both have the necessary stuff, and Gitorious is more free as in freedom. Exactly the reason why I'd personally prefer Gitorous over Github. :) Do you plan to put a copy of Gitorious's web UI on your own server or something? Maybe installed next to your local GMail installation? /sarcasm Cheers, Matthew Brush ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real) (was: Re: geany on github; why not?)
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:28:14 +0200, Colomban wrote: Hi all, Now the release is out, it's time for the real migration. There's things to do then, and perhaps a few we still need to agree on. Yay, yay, yay. @all: We will switch to Git, and we need to choose basically between GitHub and Gitorious. I'd vote for trying GitHub, just because it has one thing I quite liked and that Gitorious don't seem to have: comments on a particular While I usually plead for free software I'd also vote for Github in this regard. In the last weeks I started to use it for smaller personal stuff just to get it hosted somewhere, easily. And it worked. Github is just damn easy, fast and intuitive. While I have not much experience with Gitorious, it feels more like the opposite. Though this is just my personal opinion. Finally, we'll need to all (at least committers -- Nick, Enrico, Frank and I --, Enrico and I) work a bit together to do the switch: * committers needs to stop committing to SVN when export to Git starts * somebody (Jiří?) needs to export the SVN repo * somebody (me I think) need to setup an upstream repo on GitHub/Gitorious * we'll have to update everything that assume we commit to SF's SVN (some mirroring, commit ML, etc). Enrico, I guess we'll need you at Well, the GIT mirror at git.geany.org gets rather useless when Geany's source itself is maintained in GIT, if we want, we can keep it up running for backup or whatever purposes. I assume it's no problem to change the repository to pull from a real GIT repo instead of SVN. The commit mails may be more complicated, at least on Github there seems nothing ready-to-use AFAIK. They have the HTTP-Push hook which seems quite appropriate. We just need a script to receive that push and make it into a mail. However, I'm optimistic there is somewhere a usable implementation out there on the net. I'd also need to adjust the nightly builds and some update scripts on geany.org but this is less important and can be done asynchronously, read later. The only critical to me are the commit mails. So, we'll need to work together soon, and that'll need us to coordinate ourselves. So Jiří (if you accept re-exporting), Enrico, Nick and Frank: when can we do the actual switch? I can have the time whenever I want this week, I just need to know ;) I'm also for as soon as possible, upcoming weekend would be fine for me, ideally on Sunday. Regards, Enrico -- Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.asc pgpIubfkJGOOm.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 19:15:23 +0200, Colomban wrote: Let's wait for Enrico's answer (if he's still on that ML, hehe!) and Ha, I got a personal reminder (thanks Frank) though I would have read this anyways. And answered a bit above in this thread. Regards, Enrico -- Get my GPG key from http://www.uvena.de/pub.asc pgppVGNqYyOIS.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Git switch (for real)
On 11-10-03 02:02 PM, Enrico Tröger wrote: The commit mails may be more complicated, at least on Github there seems nothing ready-to-use AFAIK. They have the HTTP-Push hook which seems quite appropriate. We just need a script to receive that push and make it into a mail. However, I'm optimistic there is somewhere a usable implementation out there on the net. GitHub has an Email service hook, presumably you could get this to send a message to some mailing list. There's also a service hook for IRC. It also has RSS feeds for repositories as well as all kinds of notifications that users can enable for different things (like commits, comments, issues, etc). Cheers, Matthew Brush ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
