Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-20 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:05:30 -0800
Matthew Brush mbr...@codebrainz.ca wrote:

 On 01/11/2012 05:13 AM, Frank Lanitz wrote:
  Am 10.01.2012 23:46, schrieb Matthew Brush:
  On 01/07/2012 07:20 AM, Colomban Wendling wrote:
  Le 07/01/2012 16:00, Frank Lanitz a écrit :
  On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 23:42:39 +0100
  Frank Lanitzfr...@frank.uvena.de  wrote:
 
  * What's the exact difference between Supported and
  Maintained? The only difference I see is that supported has
  the word paid in the description, but I doubt that most of
  us get paid for this in particular, and I also doubt it
  changes anything on how good is the support (hobby vs. job).
 
  My fault. I wanted to change this but missed it. I wanted to
  s/supported/paid for ... (Even I don't know anybody at the
  moment who is getting paid with Geany stuff ;) )
 
  I suggest to use paid instead of supported and change current
  usage of supported to maintained.
 
  I'm still not sure what that fact someone is paid or not changes,
  but otherwise it looks fine and clearer to me.
 
  +1
 
  Whether paid or volunteer, it's still Maintained.
 
  I suggest dropping the Paid status altogether if no one has used
  it by the time all the plugins' info is filled in.
 
  I disagree. Currently there might be no plugin maintainer being
  paid to work on a plugin, but:
  - this might change (...)
  - is something user should be able to see to resynch there
  demandings with reality.
 
 
 Hehehe, well said. OK, it's not a big deal, though I still feel it's
 not very useful for Geany-Plugins.

Well, I will purge it for the meanwhile. We can add it once it comes
back up again. 

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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-12 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 12.01.2012 04:05, schrieb Matthew Brush:

 You aren't kidding! I was reading a bug report[1] on Pidgin's tracker a
 while back about the auto-sizing of a text box or something and the tone
 was absolutely incredible, including demands, threats, name-calling and
 much more. I couldn't work on a project like Pidgin with so many
 disrespectful users.

Yepp. And also disrespectful companies. E.g. it seems a bit like Oracle
and a couple of others are using Pidgin somewhere internally (which is
good for sure), but looks a bit like they are communicating: ask
@support mailing list ... But we are changing topics ;D

Cheers,
Frank
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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-11 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 10.01.2012 23:46, schrieb Matthew Brush:
 On 01/07/2012 07:20 AM, Colomban Wendling wrote:
 Le 07/01/2012 16:00, Frank Lanitz a écrit :
 On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 23:42:39 +0100
 Frank Lanitzfr...@frank.uvena.de wrote:

 * What's the exact difference between Supported and Maintained? The
 only difference I see is that supported has the word paid in the
 description, but I doubt that most of us get paid for this in
 particular, and I also doubt it changes anything on how good is the
 support (hobby vs. job).

 My fault. I wanted to change this but missed it. I wanted to
 s/supported/paid for ... (Even I don't know anybody at the moment who
 is getting paid with Geany stuff ;) )

 I suggest to use paid instead of supported and change current usage of
 supported to maintained.

 I'm still not sure what that fact someone is paid or not changes, but
 otherwise it looks fine and clearer to me.
 
 +1
 
 Whether paid or volunteer, it's still Maintained.
 
 I suggest dropping the Paid status altogether if no one has used it by
 the time all the plugins' info is filled in.

I disagree. Currently there might be no plugin maintainer being paid to
work on a plugin, but:
- this might change (...)
- is something user should be able to see to resynch there demandings
with reality.

I'm reading e.g. support@pidgin mailing list and more than once a week I
need to facepalm myself because of users don't understand they are not
talking to some paid support. I really don't want to end up on Geany
with such situation.


Cheers,
Frank

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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-11 Thread Yura Siamashka
Hi

 I suggest dropping the Paid status altogether if no one has used it by
 the time all the plugins' info is filled in.

 I disagree. Currently there might be no plugin maintainer being paid to
 work on a plugin, but:
 - this might change (...)
 - is something user should be able to see to resynch there demandings
 with reality.

 I'm reading e.g. support@pidgin mailing list and more than once a week I
 need to facepalm myself because of users don't understand they are not
 talking to some paid support. I really don't want to end up on Geany
 with such situation.

Even if someone is paid, he will probably be paid to do something that
person that is paying want (feature, bug fix), not helping random
people with support.
But such status will just make someone say something like: Hey, you
are being paid, DO AS I WANT AT ONCE!!!

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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-11 Thread Matthew Brush

On 01/11/2012 05:13 AM, Frank Lanitz wrote:

Am 10.01.2012 23:46, schrieb Matthew Brush:

On 01/07/2012 07:20 AM, Colomban Wendling wrote:

Le 07/01/2012 16:00, Frank Lanitz a écrit :

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 23:42:39 +0100
Frank Lanitzfr...@frank.uvena.de  wrote:


* What's the exact difference between Supported and Maintained? The
only difference I see is that supported has the word paid in the
description, but I doubt that most of us get paid for this in
particular, and I also doubt it changes anything on how good is the
support (hobby vs. job).


My fault. I wanted to change this but missed it. I wanted to
s/supported/paid for ... (Even I don't know anybody at the moment who
is getting paid with Geany stuff ;) )


I suggest to use paid instead of supported and change current usage of
supported to maintained.


I'm still not sure what that fact someone is paid or not changes, but
otherwise it looks fine and clearer to me.


+1

Whether paid or volunteer, it's still Maintained.

I suggest dropping the Paid status altogether if no one has used it by
the time all the plugins' info is filled in.


I disagree. Currently there might be no plugin maintainer being paid to
work on a plugin, but:
- this might change (...)
- is something user should be able to see to resynch there demandings
with reality.



Hehehe, well said. OK, it's not a big deal, though I still feel it's not 
very useful for Geany-Plugins.



I'm reading e.g. support@pidgin mailing list and more than once a week I
need to facepalm myself because of users don't understand they are not
talking to some paid support. I really don't want to end up on Geany
with such situation.



You aren't kidding! I was reading a bug report[1] on Pidgin's tracker a 
while back about the auto-sizing of a text box or something and the tone 
was absolutely incredible, including demands, threats, name-calling and 
much more. I couldn't work on a project like Pidgin with so many 
disrespectful users.


Cheers,
Matthew Brush

[1] I think it was: http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/4986
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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-10 Thread Matthew Brush

On 01/07/2012 07:20 AM, Colomban Wendling wrote:

Le 07/01/2012 16:00, Frank Lanitz a écrit :

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 23:42:39 +0100
Frank Lanitzfr...@frank.uvena.de wrote:


* What's the exact difference between Supported and Maintained? The
only difference I see is that supported has the word paid in the
description, but I doubt that most of us get paid for this in
particular, and I also doubt it changes anything on how good is the
support (hobby vs. job).


My fault. I wanted to change this but missed it. I wanted to
s/supported/paid for ... (Even I don't know anybody at the moment who
is getting paid with Geany stuff ;) )


I suggest to use paid instead of supported and change current usage of
supported to maintained.


I'm still not sure what that fact someone is paid or not changes, but
otherwise it looks fine and clearer to me.


+1

Whether paid or volunteer, it's still Maintained.

I suggest dropping the Paid status altogether if no one has used it by 
the time all the plugins' info is filled in.


Cheers,
Matthew Brush
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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-08 Thread Enrico Tröger
On 07/01/12 17:53, Eugene Arshinov wrote:
 On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:34:03 +0100
 Thomas Martitz thomas.mart...@student.htw-berlin.de wrote:
 
 Am 07.01.2012 17:34, schrieb Eugene Arshinov:
 Hi.

 Here's xmlsnippets' maintainer info (e.g., mine)


 I suggest you to use git format-patch, as to preserve author and
 commit message information. Probably not a big deal for this one
 though.

 Best regards.

 
 Thanks for the suggestion!  The updated patch is attached.


And now committed.
Thanks.



Regards,
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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-07 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 23:42:39 +0100
Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de wrote:

  * What's the exact difference between Supported and Maintained?  The
  only difference I see is that supported has the word paid in the
  description, but I doubt that most of us get paid for this in
  particular, and I also doubt it changes anything on how good is the
  support (hobby vs. job).
 
 My fault. I wanted to change this but missed it. I wanted to
 s/supported/paid for ... (Even I don't know anybody at the moment who
 is getting paid with Geany stuff ;) )

I suggest to use paid instead of supported and change current usage of
supported to maintained. 

Cheers, 
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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-07 Thread Colomban Wendling

Le 07/01/2012 16:00, Frank Lanitz a écrit :

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 23:42:39 +0100
Frank Lanitzfr...@frank.uvena.de  wrote:


* What's the exact difference between Supported and Maintained?  The
only difference I see is that supported has the word paid in the
description, but I doubt that most of us get paid for this in
particular, and I also doubt it changes anything on how good is the
support (hobby vs. job).


My fault. I wanted to change this but missed it. I wanted to
s/supported/paid for ... (Even I don't know anybody at the moment who
is getting paid with Geany stuff ;) )


I suggest to use paid instead of supported and change current usage of
supported to maintained.


I'm still not sure what that fact someone is paid or not changes, but 
otherwise it looks fine and clearer to me.


Cheers,
Colomban
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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-07 Thread Eugene Arshinov
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:29:30 +0100
Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 We have just added a MAINTAINERS into git to add a single point to
 find who is responsible for a plugin. Please be so kind and sending in
 patches or updating the file on your own for your plugins to show who
 is maintaining etc. File contains a little header with very brief
 instructions to do so.

Hi.

Here's xmlsnippets' maintainer info (e.g., mine)

--
Best regards,
Eugene.diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index f5f0d26..684dd74 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -175,7 +175,7 @@ W: http://plugins.geany.org/webhelper.html
 S: Supported
 
 xmlsnippets
-P:
-M:
-W:
-S:
+P: Eugene Arshinov earshi...@gmail.com
+M: Eugene Arshinov earshi...@gmail.com
+W: http://plugins.geany.org/xmlsnippets.html
+S: Maintained
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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-07 Thread Thomas Martitz

Am 07.01.2012 17:34, schrieb Eugene Arshinov:

Hi.

Here's xmlsnippets' maintainer info (e.g., mine)



I suggest you to use git format-patch, as to preserve author and commit 
message information. Probably not a big deal for this one though.


Best regards.

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[Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-06 Thread Frank Lanitz
Hi folks,

We have just added a MAINTAINERS into git to add a single point to find
who is responsible for a plugin. Please be so kind and sending in
patches or updating the file on your own for your plugins to show who is
maintaining etc. File contains a little header with very brief
instructions to do so.

Cheers,
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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-06 Thread Colomban Wendling
Le 06/01/2012 10:29, Frank Lanitz a écrit :
 Hi folks,
 
 We have just added a MAINTAINERS into git to add a single point to find
 who is responsible for a plugin. Please be so kind and sending in
 patches or updating the file on your own for your plugins to show who is
 maintaining etc. File contains a little header with very brief
 instructions to do so.

Oops sorry, I completely forgot to do it myself.  Now done.

Just a few questions:

* What's the exact difference between P and M?  Do we really expect to
have a maintainer but somebody else that deals with the patches?

* What's the exact difference between Supported and Maintained?  The
only difference I see is that supported has the word paid in the
description, but I doubt that most of us get paid for this in
particular, and I also doubt it changes anything on how good is the
support (hobby vs. job).

Cheers,
Colomban
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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-06 Thread Dimitar Zhekov
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:29:30 +0100
Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de wrote:

 We have just added a MAINTAINERS into git to add a single point to find
 who is responsible for a plugin. Please be so kind and sending in
 patches or updating the file on your own [...]

Here's a patch.

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From 210845809a50b43a1c052ace25cdb365b4f923a4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Dimitar Zhekov dimitar.zhe...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:48:03 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Added myself as maintainer of geanyextrasel and
 geanyinsertnum

---
 MAINTAINERS |   16 
 1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)

diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index b271549..6219dd7 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -43,10 +43,10 @@ W:
 S:
 
 geanyextrasel
-P:
-M:
-W:
-S:
+P: Dimitar Zhekov dimitar.zhe...@gmail.com
+M: Dimitar Zhekov dimitar.zhe...@gmail.com
+W: http://sheckley.users.sourceforge.net
+S: Supported
 
 geanygdb
 P: Dominic Hopf
@@ -61,10 +61,10 @@ W: http://plugins.geany.org/geanygendoc.html
 S: Supported
 
 geanyinsertnum
-P:
-M:
-W:
-S:
+P: Dimitar Zhekov dimitar.zhe...@gmail.com
+M: Dimitar Zhekov dimitar.zhe...@gmail.com
+W: http://sheckley.users.sourceforge.net
+S: Supported
 
 geanylatex
 P: Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de
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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-06 Thread Dominic Hopf
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 19:52 +0200, Dimitar Zhekov wrote:
 On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:29:30 +0100
 Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de wrote:
 
  We have just added a MAINTAINERS into git to add a single point to find
  who is responsible for a plugin. Please be so kind and sending in
  patches or updating the file on your own [...]
 
 Here's a patch.

Applied, thanks. :)

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Re: [Geany-devel] Geany-Plugins: MAINTAINERS file

2012-01-06 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:15:32 +0100
Colomban Wendling lists@herbesfolles.org wrote:

 Le 06/01/2012 10:29, Frank Lanitz a écrit :
  Hi folks,
  
  We have just added a MAINTAINERS into git to add a single point to
  find who is responsible for a plugin. Please be so kind and sending
  in patches or updating the file on your own for your plugins to
  show who is maintaining etc. File contains a little header with
  very brief instructions to do so.
 
 Oops sorry, I completely forgot to do it myself.  Now done.
 
 Just a few questions:
 
 * What's the exact difference between P and M?  Do we really expect to
 have a maintainer but somebody else that deals with the patches?

Well... maybe the maintainer likes to get the patches sent to a team or
a mailing list. 

 * What's the exact difference between Supported and Maintained?  The
 only difference I see is that supported has the word paid in the
 description, but I doubt that most of us get paid for this in
 particular, and I also doubt it changes anything on how good is the
 support (hobby vs. job).

My fault. I wanted to change this but missed it. I wanted to
s/supported/paid for ... (Even I don't know anybody at the moment who
is getting paid with Geany stuff ;) )

Cheers, 
Frank
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