Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Rages
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:51 AM, John Griessen wrote: > On 09/08/2011 11:05 AM, Mark Rages wrote: >> >> The double keystrokes in gschem are excellent UI.  Not as quick to >> grasp at first, but very very good in practice. > > . > . > . > I think gschem has a

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Rages
before on this list.) > > Regards, > Colin > Agree. Please file a bug. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Rages
atever random control keys happens to be available. I think gschem has a pretty good interface. I only wish PCB used the same shortcuts instead of the random keys it has now. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com

Re: gEDA-user: pcb GL can't render stretched arcs

2011-07-13 Thread Mark Rages
is wide. > > confirm. > > PCB v20100929-2 as delivered by debian renders the stretched arc > correctly. > Stretched arcs are a misfeature. Can they be deprecated? Otherwise, they are just another object that cannot be rotated at arbitrary angles. Regards, Mark markrages@

Re: gEDA-user: Perl

2011-05-27 Thread Mark Rages
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > Shortly after, I needed it, so I learned it.  It'll be the same with > Python, just like it was with Scheme.  I'm a compiler engineer - > picking up languages is second nature to me. Python is really easy to learn. Dive in: http://diveintopyt

Re: gEDA-user: Task list for: Solving the light/heavy symbol problem

2011-05-26 Thread Mark Rages
>   6. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > > > > _______ > geda-user mailing list > geda-user@moria.seul.org > http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > > -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: FreeRotate Bug

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Rages
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:47 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Not a bug.  This is a design limitation - there's no way to indicate > the angle of a square pad. > That's still a bug. The workaround is to make the square pad not-quite-square. Regards, Mark -- Mark Rages, Enginee

Re: gEDA-user: How to identify a refdes' owner in gSchem

2011-04-29 Thread Mark Rages
ray text. You can delete the line. How it got there is more interesting. If you can reproduce it, please file a bug on the gschem bug tracker. Regards,Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com __

Re: gEDA-user: How to identify a refdes' owner in gSchem

2011-04-29 Thread Mark Rages
orange.  Is there a way I can find out what symbol owns that refdes? >   Also, it is just a one page schematic. Peek at the schematic in a text editor. Search for "U9". Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest

Re: gEDA-user: Attribute Net (without pin assignment) - for Power and Port Symbols

2011-04-12 Thread Mark Rages
g thought it a minor design flaw that indexed attributes attach the > index to the value rather than the name. So, I would prefer net:1=Vcc, while > preserving backward compatibility, of course. Yes, this makes sense. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest

Re: gEDA-user: Attribute Net (without pin assignment) - for Power and Port Symbols

2011-04-11 Thread Mark Rages
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Mark Rages wrote: > >> I've often though it would be extremely handy to have spreadsheet-like >> automatic calculations in gschem. > > You mean like specify the R1/R2 and R1 for the four resistors > of a

Re: gEDA-user: Attribute Net (without pin assignment) - for Power and Port Symbols

2011-04-11 Thread Mark Rages
r formula in a voltage regulator used > to adding values for the two feedback resistors. > > Steve I've often though it would be extremely handy to have spreadsheet-like automatic calculations in gschem. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra

Re: gEDA-user: default pcb stackup change?

2011-04-11 Thread Mark Rages
ync somehow? Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Split ground planes and zero ohm jumpers

2011-04-08 Thread Mark Rages
r RF design, and a lot of high-speed digital designs, require a lot more attention than getting connectivity right. So the desire to tag certain nets / connections as controlled impedance, no DRC, equal trace length, etc. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Configuring PCB for out of source builds?

2011-04-03 Thread Mark Rages
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > ../src/configure > Does this work now? I tried it before (source on CD-ROM) and it wanted to build some files in the source tree. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttel

Re: gEDA-user: Skip DRC on "outline" layer

2011-03-11 Thread Mark Rages
a/user/Feb-2010/msg00209.html -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: net attribute for power I/O, clean appearance? (no “:1”)

2011-03-08 Thread Mark Rages
ttp://archives.seul.org/geda/dev/Mar-2004/msg00018.html and it seems the patch wasn't applied after all. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Anybody have any experience with cheap chinese reflow ovens?

2011-02-28 Thread Mark Rages
and it took 1.5 months to get here. > > So one one has any experience with the chinese reflow ovens? Are they > junk or something? You can reflow with a $20 toaster oven from Goodwill / craigslist / Wal-Mart. Try starting with that. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer

Re: gEDA-user: General Layers questions

2011-02-24 Thread Mark Rages
at was flexible enough to capture modern PCB fab capabilities. Blind / buried vias and buried caps would be start. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: pcb plugin smartdisperse fails on load

2011-02-23 Thread Mark Rages
ess of binary plugins to an open-source project, so I won't mention it here... Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.s

Re: gEDA-user: pcb commands to automatically select, cut, rotate, and paste elements

2011-02-23 Thread Mark Rages
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: > Mark Rages writes: > >> You would be wise to avoid PCB for anything non-rectangular.  It is >> exceedingly painful. > > I do recommend pcb for anything non-rectangular.  The arcs can be nicely > done in gnum

Re: gEDA-user: pcb commands to automatically select, cut, rotate, and paste elements

2011-02-23 Thread Mark Rages
s. Another trap: You might want to connect your circles of LEDs with arcs. Be advised that pcb affers no facilities for editing arcs. You would be wise to avoid PCB for anything non-rectangular. It is exceedingly painful. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine

Re: gEDA-user: inexpensive 2-layer pcb prototypes in 2 weeks? 3 weeks? 4 weeks?

2011-02-18 Thread Mark Rages
rkbot: http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/pcb_order from the comments: 'anything that can be cut out with a 0.1" routing bit' -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: vertical toolbox in gschem

2011-02-05 Thread Mark Rages
Hi, I switched my gschem to have a vertical toolbox on the left, rather than a horizontal toolbox on the top of the screen. With wide aspect-ratio screens, this is a better use of display real estate. Patch attached. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC

Re: gEDA-user: pcb gtk hid development question

2011-02-03 Thread Mark Rages
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Mark Rages wrote: > So I'm using my snow day to hack on pcb a little bit, and I need some > help understanding how drawing work on the GTK HID. > > I've attached a trivial patch:  The intended effect is to draw a XOR > line from the origin

Re: gEDA-user: git for gedasymbols.org ?

2011-02-03 Thread Mark Rages
Some examples of how the hierarchy might be organized: > - Switches -> Tactile pushbuttons > - Switches -> Toggle switches > - Integrated circuits -> DIP > - Connectors -> Single row pins > - Connectors -> D-subminiature > - LEDs -> Surface mount > Tagging i

gEDA-user: pcb gtk hid development question

2011-02-01 Thread Mark Rages
l be on IRC most of the day if any pcb devs want to lend me a hand. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail.com -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com bonusline.patch Description: Binary data ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: Collaborative Development of Boards

2011-01-16 Thread Mark Rages
kill with fire, would do business with again, etc. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Rant about "Make Inv Text Vis"

2011-01-14 Thread Mark Rages
to invisible if you fail to notice your error.  You have to go through >   every single thing and fix it (arghh)! >   Just curious? >   Oliver > Agree. Cleaning up after this misfeature has cost me quite a bit of time. Mark -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markr

Re: gEDA-user: Clearance of polygons around tracks/pins/pads

2011-01-08 Thread Mark Rages
elements, but what I want is a preference, > setting the clearance for all elements. > > Is this possible? > Select all, then use the :ChangeClearSize action. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___

Re: gEDA-user: Wiki cleanup?

2011-01-04 Thread Mark Rages
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:06 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Phil Taylor writes: >> Why isn't there a user-guide? > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/docs/ > The developer's reference seems a little thin. Are there any plans to update it? Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-26 Thread Mark Rages
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Eduardo Costa wrote: > On 26 December 2010 02:55, Mark Rages wrote: >> >> If it will stop the bikeshedding here, I volunteer to translate a >> tutorial from crayon-on-napkin into LaTeX or DocBook or whatever.  I >> believe that th

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-25 Thread Mark Rages
recipient. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Rotating components in 45 degree

2010-12-18 Thread Mark Rages
/geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-pcb?do=revisions > > Compare this to the history of pcb-tips: >        http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips?do=revisions > > Yes, this is pretty fractured. I'd be happy to merge the three. > Any objections? No objection. Can the other UR

Re: gEDA-user: Text in PCB elements

2010-12-12 Thread Mark Rages
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotation_matrix Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: TRACKERS [was: Re: gEDA-dev: Dev list [was: Random thoughts onthe future interface of PCB]]

2010-12-09 Thread Mark Rages
ceforge's tracker. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Inkscape text->pstoedit->pcb and importing PostScript/PDF/EPS vector graphics with holes

2010-11-22 Thread Mark Rages
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Colin D Bennett wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:50:03 -0600 > Mark Rages wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Colin D Bennett >> wrote: >> > How hard would it be to make use of the freetype library to handle >> >

Re: gEDA-user: If you also think the PCB lower-case letter 's' is ugly, here's a replacement

2010-11-22 Thread Mark Rages
iven silk process can print legibly, you want those single-line fonts. For larger fonts, freetype would be great, and save us the machinations of creating the text in inkscape or something and importing it with pstoedit. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC m

Re: gEDA-user: How do I really design footprint with pcb?

2010-11-02 Thread Mark Rages
tools" means that everybody gets to write a footprint generator in their own favorite scripting language. There are no helpful GUI tools, only the unhelpful tool of pcb itself. Footprint generation seems like a GUI task to me, but I'm sure others will disagree. Regards, Mark markra.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb prevents overlapping vias

2010-10-16 Thread Mark Rages
ab has a minimum spacing between holes. Maybe DRC could check that. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: pcb crooked traces

2010-10-11 Thread Mark Rages
h just like it is with floating math. Remember, using integers doesn't eliminate rounding error, it just puts a bound on it per operation. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com __

gEDA-user: pcb element with silk on the bottom?

2010-10-05 Thread Mark Rages
Hi, I'm trying to create an element with silk on the bottom ("solder") layer. How can I do this? I don't see a layer attribute in the ElementLine syntax. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...

Re: gEDA-user: Cutouts

2010-09-29 Thread Mark Rages
g square / nonstandard holes, your best bet is to talk to the PCb vendor and ask how they would prefer you to spec the holes. Plating slots is an extra-cost option (and an extra processing step) so you will be using a full-service board house rather than a cheap prototype shop. Regards, Mark mark

Re: gEDA-user: Functional blocks and PCB format changes

2010-09-13 Thread Mark Rages
e pretty awesome to be able to use SVG graphics for silk >> layers.  Fancy curves might work well for future routers as well. >> > > I don't think SVG is appropriate for storing entire PCBs. There's too > much non-graphical data in .pcb files. > > Footprints, y

Re: gEDA-user: pcb save as older version?

2010-09-08 Thread Mark Rages
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: > > No, but if you don't use any polygon holes in the file, just hand-edit > the file version header back to 20070407. That works. Thank you. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telec

gEDA-user: pcb save as older version?

2010-09-08 Thread Mark Rages
Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: next PCB release - 1.99za vs 4.0

2010-09-07 Thread Mark Rages
ted in qcad entirely, and just imported to PCB as a last step before making Gerbers. This was only possible because the design was very simple with just a handful of nets. I've since purchased a license for Altium, which has its own kind of badness, but at least it lets me type in number

gEDA-user: pcb drops line segment on export

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Rages
/images/pcb-screenshot.png Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas of what to look for? Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http

Re: gEDA-user: Shrinking components in gschem ?

2010-08-23 Thread Mark Rages
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Mark Rages wrote: > >> if you really want to scale components, I have a script at >> http://vivara.net to scale  / rotate gschem components. >  ^ > > This URL gives me: >        Unable

Re: gEDA-user: Shrinking components in gschem ?

2010-08-21 Thread Mark Rages
tate gschem components. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Rages
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:32 PM, John Doty wrote: > > On Jul 17, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Mark Rages wrote: > >> gschem->pcb is farther to the right on Kathy Sierra's graphic than any >> other software I regularly use: >> >> http://headrush.ty

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Rages
i.e. hand > soldering may need extended pads for DFN devices. > gschem->pcb is farther to the right on Kathy Sierra's graphic than any other software I regularly use: http://headrush.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/06/kickasscurvetwo.jpg Just hang in there, it makes mo

Re: gEDA-user: dxf again

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Rages
;dxf tool, rather it is a pcb->dxf tool. I want to edit pcb's input format, not output format, if that makes sense. Basically I took the dxflib example program and grafted a mono-buttocked .pcb parser onto the front of it. Seems to work. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- M

Re: gEDA-user: dxf again

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Rages
on the board with flux and run a solder blob around the edges. Done. To solder the pad underneath, you need a LITTLE paste under there and an oven or hot air or a via underneath to put an iron on. You will love the leadless packages if you have ever bent the pins or solder-bridged a TSSOP part. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: dxf again

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Rages
then import back into pcb, but everyone else seems to want to edit gerbers in 2d cad. So maybe the tool I want is different. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailin

Re: gEDA-user: dxf again

2010-07-15 Thread Mark Rages
"") { ...etc... Of course, the compiler complains to the heavens about this, and it's an easy fix, but it makes me less than hopeful that the code's gonna work. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com _

Re: gEDA-user: Draft Licence for Open Source Hardware published (OT)

2010-07-15 Thread Mark Rages
Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: dxf again

2010-07-15 Thread Mark Rages
.seul.org/geda/user/Sep-2009/msg00134.html). So before I start on the pcbtodxf tool, has anybody done this already? I'm not interested in the pstoedit workaround, because I'd like to preserve layers and line widths accurately. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Eng

Re: gEDA-user: Draft Licence for Open Source Hardware published

2010-07-14 Thread Mark Rages
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > See > > http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Draft-Licence-for-Open-Source-Hardware-published-1038048.html > commentary here: http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=1224 -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecin

Re: gEDA-user: OT help with Make

2010-07-12 Thread Mark Rages
e and redefined the CC variable. In this case, the little Makefiles were in a different build directory for each target, so the ambiguity was solved that way. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: OT help with Make

2010-07-12 Thread Mark Rages
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM, myjunk stuff wrote: > > Is there a way to do the following: > > target1 : >    rule1 > > target2 : >    execute target1 > target2: target1 Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC ma

Re: gEDA-user: Syd Levine Bus Number

2010-06-08 Thread Mark Rages
well.com/capabilities/lab_pics.html Sorry for the thread hijack. This is sad news. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: PolyStitch plugin

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Rages
. > Pstoedit makes two polygons, one for the outside and one for the hole, > but what you really want in PCB is one polygon, so that the hole is > not filled. Have you tried the "-ssp" option to pstoedit? This does the right thing, when it doesn't segfault. Regards, Ma

Re: gEDA-user: paid help?

2010-04-06 Thread Mark Rages
d making my own, I have wasted a lot more than one day by relying on pcb's built-in footprints...) Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.se

Re: gEDA-user: Funny pad rotation

2010-03-23 Thread Mark Rages
4000 45 270 700] > >        ) > > Is this a known bug?  Any workaround? > Are the pads exactly square? (sorry about my laziness to do the math). Try making them slightly rectangular. That worked for me for going the other way: I found it impossible to rotate a perfectly square pad 45

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-03-09 Thread Mark Rages
the same state. http://vivara.net/software/dxftopcb/ I'd like to see pcb link to dxflib for import and export. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: TO-92 Best Practices

2010-03-02 Thread Mark Rages
n, the match is not as good as a dual transistor in SMT. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: TO-92 Best Practices

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Rages
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Donald Tillman wrote: > Hey folks, > > What's considered Best Practices for TO-92 packages? > Redesign with SOT-23. Easier to solder, faster than stuffing TO-92. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Te

Re: gEDA-user: any last minute advice prior to sending out for PCB fab

2010-02-23 Thread Mark Rages
m) and we'll all take a look. You can use Advanced Circuit's freedfm.com and see what it says. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Is it possible to do square holes in PCB?

2010-02-21 Thread Mark Rages
o your board house about this? I wonder what happens if you specify a reuleaux drill in the fab drawing... Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.s

Re: gEDA-user: PCB plugin for contoured traces?

2010-02-20 Thread Mark Rages
un this plugin as the final >   step since editing it afterwards was virtually impossible. Am I >   thinking of a different pcb layout program or does this plugin exist >   somewhere? > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/puller/ -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Tel

Re: gEDA-user: let's play "guess the netlist" with gsch2pcb!

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Rages
Ah! On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Peter Clifton <[1]pc...@cam.ac.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 22:56 +, Peter TB Brett wrote: >> On Wednesday 17 February 2010 22:41:07 Mark Rages wrote: >> >> > OK, I created a new user with an e

Re: gEDA-user: let's play "guess the netlist" with gsch2pcb!

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Rages
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On Wednesday 17 February 2010 22:20:26 Mark Rages wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: >> > On Wednesday 17 February 2010 22:07:29 Mark Rages wrote: >> >> >> >> I do

Re: gEDA-user: let's play "guess the netlist" with gsch2pcb!

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Rages
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On Wednesday 17 February 2010 22:07:29 Mark Rages wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Steven Michalske > wrote: >> > here is what i got >> > >> > V3  R1-1 >> > V5  R1-2 >>

Re: gEDA-user: let's play "guess the netlist" with gsch2pcb!

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Rages
x27;s anything too weird in my Ubuntu 9.04 system. I just created a new user and ran from that account, with the same result. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user maili

Re: gEDA-user: let's play "guess the netlist" with gsch2pcb!

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Rages
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: > > On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Mark Rages wrote: > >> This caught me out today. >> >> Consider this circuit: >> http://vivara.net/images/gschem_example.png >> >> The symbols are from the

gEDA-user: let's play "guess the netlist" with gsch2pcb!

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Rages
the netlist? Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Prototype houses that do 0.031" boards?

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Rages
thinner is "custom": [3]http://www.4pcb.com/index.php?load=content&page_id=80 I've got some 0.020" boards in process now. They say can do 0.010", but I think they outsource that. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest

Re: gEDA-user: Action to flip board

2010-02-12 Thread Mark Rages
efile. All good now. Thanks. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Action to flip board

2010-02-12 Thread Mark Rages
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:29 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Install this plugin: > ... OK, I got all the pieces installed but the copper and component layers are interchanged. What have I done wrong? Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine L

gEDA-user: Action to flip board

2010-02-11 Thread Mark Rages
Only elements are flipped.The first problem is annoying, but I can live with it. The second is a bit of a show stopper. Is there any known workaround? Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecin

Re: gEDA-user: how to make DRC ignore "outline" layer?

2010-02-10 Thread Mark Rages
lys on the copper layers? Any downsides to that? Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

gEDA-user: how to make DRC ignore "outline" layer?

2010-02-10 Thread Mark Rages
Hi, I'm making a layout with castellated vias on the edge. so these vias intersect the outline layer and pcb thinks they are all shorted together when I press "o". Any way around this? I thought the magic was the name "outline". Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mar

Re: gEDA-user: what does "Error while clipping PBO_SUB: 3" mean?

2010-02-10 Thread Mark Rages
tware/line_arc_to_poly.tar.gz > As you might imagine though, scanning lists of coordinates in the PCB > file isn't particularly easy to do - and I don't have any debugging > tools to help show the order in which a polygon contour is created. Agree. Regards, Mark markra...@gma

Re: gEDA-user: what does "Error while clipping PBO_SUB: 3" mean?

2010-02-10 Thread Mark Rages
I filed a bug and uploaded a file which exhibits this: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2948916&group_id=73743&atid=538811 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Mark Rages wrote: > I'm trying to work with a rather compex polygon ground plane.  I get > th

gEDA-user: what does "Error while clipping PBO_SUB: 3" mean?

2010-02-09 Thread Mark Rages
pping PBO_SUB: 3 Error while clipping PBO_SUB: 3 Error while clipping PBO_SUB: 3 Error while clipping PBO_SUB: 3 Just leaked in Subtract Segmentation fault Any ideas on where to look for the problem? Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC m

Re: gEDA-user: pcb action to set refdes?

2010-02-09 Thread Mark Rages
interactive shell like a proper CAD program does.) Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda

Re: gEDA-user: pcb action to set refdes?

2010-02-08 Thread Mark Rages
fy the placement of > parts being added, perhaps via an Attribute() ?  The default is to > place the part at 0,0 but if you look for an override... I haven't applied that patch yet. Is it in git HEAD? Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Tele

Re: gEDA-user: pcb action to set refdes?

2010-02-08 Thread Mark Rages
under the cursor. > Right. > Are these new components, or are you trying to move parts already on > the board? They are new components. We are panelizing a board with several variants of a tricky footprint to see which one will work best in the SMT process. Regards, Mark markra..

gEDA-user: pcb action to set refdes?

2010-02-08 Thread Mark Rages
Hi, Is there a pcb action to set a component's refdes? I'm trying to place some components from a script. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: more kvetch re: pcb Arcs

2010-02-02 Thread Mark Rages
e used to position the trace in an accurate way unless you snap to grid or a trace endpoint. The grid is mostly worthless with the kind of design I'm working on and endpoints are too restrictive. Those pictures are helpful, thank you. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages,

Re: gEDA-user: more kvetch re: pcb Arcs

2010-02-02 Thread Mark Rages
grid. You can try them in qcad. apt-get install qcad Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: more kvetch re: pcb Arcs

2010-02-02 Thread Mark Rages
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 12:58 -0500, Stuart Brorson wrote: >> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Mark Rages wrote: >> >> [...] >> > If I can't get this working in the next few days, I'll probably be >> > b

Re: gEDA-user: new components

2010-02-02 Thread Mark Rages
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 12:09 -0600, Mark Rages wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: >> > >> > You might consider modifying your CGI to return the mime-type: >> > >> > ap

Re: gEDA-user: new components

2010-02-02 Thread Mark Rages
en directly in gschem - > depending on your web-browser. > > Best wishes, > > Peter C. > Done, and it works. I tested with Chrome on Ubuntu, and it opened the symbol in gschem. I guess there is no mime-type for djboxsym definitions. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rage

Re: gEDA-user: new components

2010-02-02 Thread Mark Rages
on my website: http://vivara.net/cgi-bin/djboxsym.cgi I believe it is the easiest way to get a basic symbol for something like a microprocessor. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com __

gEDA-user: more kvetch re: pcb Arcs

2010-02-02 Thread Mark Rages
a little more hopeful: "Search, and ye shall find." It looks like find.c holds DRC code? What function gets called by control-f? I can't find it. If I can't get this working in the next few days, I'll probably be buying a license for Altium and a Windows computer. Th

Re: gEDA-user: arcs in pcb

2010-01-29 Thread Mark Rages
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 09:00 -0600, Mark Rages wrote: > >> Assuming: largest arc is 24 inches, and the desired precision 1e-5 inches. > > A gentle very gentle curve would require more, but certainly the above > would be

Re: gEDA-user: arcs in pcb

2010-01-29 Thread Mark Rages
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 19:05 -0600, Mark Rages wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:50 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> > >> >> I was afraid of that... >> > >> > :-) >> > >> >&

Re: gEDA-user: arcs in pcb

2010-01-28 Thread Mark Rages
ark and foreboding "puller.c". Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

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