On Friday, November 29, 2002, at 01:37 PM, Egil Kvaleberg wrote:
Speaking of which...where might a find this new version of PCB?
Google is your friend:
http://www.google.com/search?q=pcb-1.99j
Ahh, I had googled without the hyphen. Thanks.
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Package. ;)
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On Dec 29, 2003, at 3:00 PM, Bill Cox wrote:
Perl is very popular among chip designers. A little glue and packing
tape, and you can make anything work...
Gads, that's scary. I hope the chips they design are of better
quality than the language they're using. ;)
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There was talk of a new release around the beginning of the
year...has this happened and I missed it, or has it been delayed?
Also, has anyone done symbols for any of the Hitachi SH3 family
(specifically the SH7709S) or the DragonBall VZ?
Thanks,
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build it from source, or did someone make a binary
distribution? I'm looking forward to trying it but I haven't had time
yet (I'm in the middle of moving into a new house).
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this a whirl. I'd been working on it with Sun's C compiler instead of
GCC (because it usually produces MUCH MUCH MUCH faster binaries) and
have quite a few fixes for Solaris9. I will let you know what happens
here.
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on feeedback
from them, so I *know* it works with their system. The cost is $25
per lot plus $0.50 per sq in, quantity one or more.
Wow...that is *really* cheap. Were you satisfied with the board
quality? What is the smallest trace width you've used with them?
-Dave
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these guys for my next board, which
will be my first with PCB. Thanks for the info!
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Cape Coral, FL feels a little better. -Ed
!
Hey, don't tease us...let's see some pics!
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the barebonespcb.com people. I've always used ExpressPCB
because they are so incredibly inexpensive, then DJ comes along and
mentions a company even cheaper than that, and they take actual Gerbers
rather than proprietary stuff. I'm anxious to give them a try myself.
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On Mar 16, 2004, at 12:27 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
then DJ comes along and mentions a company even cheaper than that,
and they take actual Gerbers rather than proprietary stuff.
Sorry to spoil your fun ;-)
Hey, I'm not complaining! ;)
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Solaris on a SPARC
machine. Let me know if that would help.
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in its development phase? Is
it actively being worked on?
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Is there a way to, say, select all tracks of the power style and
change them all to a different size simultaneously with PCB? Nothing
in the docs, unless I blew past it.
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the route, or is that the future plan?
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, in ActionDJopt(). I haven't
looked into that yet...I will recompile with -g and see if I can figure
out what's going on.
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optimize.
Looks like there's some work in progress in there...sorry if this
is annoying.
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work...you can click
on them but they don't become selected. Oh well, it was worth a try.
:)
-Dave
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it with me?
Thanks,
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and LQFP80_12 look like the right thing,
but I don't want to go through a whole layout and have boards fabbed
only to find out these are 0.8mm instead of 0.5mm pitch, for example.
Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
Thanks,
-Dave
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a postscript 1:1 paper copy and actually lay the parts down on
the
paper to
see that they fit properly.
Understood. And also a good idea.
Thanks,
-Dave
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indeed.
Thanks!
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of the modifier keys. This
seemed very streamlined and supported the one hand on the keyboard,
the other on the mouse way of doing things.
-Dave
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in there to get it melted,
you will likely wind up with your soldering iron permanently welded to
the PCB. Been there, done that...doh! :-(
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are for, then all of that could be stored
in the layout file.
Thoughts?
-Dave
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Hey folks. I usually put my email address on a PCB layout, but the
default font that comes with PCB doesn't have an '@'. Is there a
low-pain way to add that symbol to the default font? How was the
default font generated in the first place?
Thanks,
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(still) using PCB 1.99j
The font file is located at /usr/lib/X11/pcb/default-font
Put this at th end of the file:
...
Hey, thanks! You've saved me good bit of trouble today. I owe you
one. :)
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, very hard on it in the past year and it has
come a long, long way.
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, and will not have such
artifacts.
Leave JPG for what it was designed for...natural-scene images such as
photographs.
-Dave
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that.
So, it'd be a bit of work, but it could certainly be done.
-Dave
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.
-Dave
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, something is corrupting the menu sizes,
but mine (x86-linux) come up perfectly sized every time.
If I get some time within the next couple of days, I may be able to
spin it up under Purify, if that'd help.
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platform, since 20040606 came out before I resolved the
bison issues).
Howdy Josh, fancy meeting you here. ;) Have you tried tracing the
binary to see how it's trying to fopen() system.vpi?
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not just use standard yacc mode
(bison -y)? It's portable, it's supported *everywhere*, and it Just
Works(tm).
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.
-Dave
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% of the CPU in a Sun Netra X1 (400MHz
UltraSPARC-IIe) when compiled with GCC, and ~29% when compiled with
Sun's compiler.
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for C++, I see
that they are still missing some significant optimizations that
are not possible in C.
Hmm. I'm not much into C++ (I'm a C guy) so I can't speak to that.
I'd love to see some examples though.
-Dave
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slow and big.
We're in 100% agreement there.
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Stallman work in MIT AI Lab?
Sigh. Free software has been the way of the UNIX world for decades.
Stallman *rode* it...he didn't invent it.
-Dave
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of Microsoft's
stranglehold on their wallets.
-Dave
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On Aug 20, 2004, at 11:04 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:
If I had my druthers, we'd deprecate that entire M4 symbol library,
and
move to the file based library. Eventually, we'd kill the M4 library
altogether.
Any benefit of using an M4 script to generate symbols can be
replicated using Perl or Python
in order to use
PCB, I will find another layout package.
Existing, perfectly functional, fast, builds-and-runs-on-EVERYTHING
tools are not an appropriate battleground for the PerlTribesmen to try
to infect.
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as a normal, file-based lib. They shouldn't even have to ever
see M4.
...I agree fully that board designers who don't have the luxury of
also being experienced programmers should NOT have to be exposed to it.
-Dave
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because
he uses LINUX! HAHAhaha! -- common phrase used to describe me.
I find that simply not associating with Windows sheeple has reduced
my overall stress level considerably. ;)
-Dave
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for a quality temperature-controlled iron? Don't try to solder.
It's as simple as that.
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the room's floor ;-) )
Well...there are limits. ;)
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, but that type of approach is what gave us the
abyssmal performance of things like Gnome. Once in a while it's ok,
but making a habit of it is a very, very bad idea.
-Dave
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for our profession. Most of these people will
give up in frustration with fried components and lifted pads.
You know, the philosophy of using the right tool for the job is not
obsolete.
Don't fear SMT. SMT is good. :-)
-Dave
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components anyhow).
On that topic...I've seen mention of those MIPS processors a few
times here. What chips are these? Do you have a URL or a part number?
-Dave
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that smells good, too! :-)
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that someone has just
accidentally
blown off your head with a shotgun ;-)
Umm... 8-|
I think I'll stick with rosin. ;)
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is about twice what it
should be, so don't use that as a data point, but here is the model
that I use:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3835290314
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don't. :) Even if I only need one or two, I buy a
thousand, because a thousand costs three dollars, and then I have them
in stock for the next project. :-)
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takes a few seconds.
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be rolled back to sanity,
or perhaps conditionalized on GCC?
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(I have pretty
reasonable facilities here), so that wouldn't be an issue for me. I
don't really like the idea of spending tons of time to beat GForge into
submission, though.
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Hi folks. Has anyone done a PCB footprint for Dallas Semiconductor's
6-pin TSOC package, such as the one used for the DS9503? And if so,
care to share? :-)
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suggestion. Of course I've known
you long enough on various lists to listen, you usually have good
things to say!
Hmm, that's very kind of you to say, Dan, thank you...I appreciate
it. :-)
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that this world of computing
started out with most software being freely available and open.
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to give up
:-).
Heck, what about Macs running Mac OS X?-)
Although in that case, FINK may be a better distribution mechinism.
The geda suite needs a Fink packager.
I agree wholeheartedly, on both counts. :-)
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* And here I was thinking the first me too post just HAD
to have come from an AOL user. ;)
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. Unfortunately it doesn't work for the
particular MACH parts we have
I can see running Palasm under a DOS emulator...as long as it works,
y'know.
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. When the basic levels are wrong, then the upper don't
matter.
They will still work wrong no matter what choice you choose.
BRAVO!!
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library.
Have you seen it?
Motif is, as well as Xaw, X11 Toolkit based, but as a comercial
product lots of people prefer something free.
Lesstif.
Since Motif is almost as old as Xaw, lots of newer UI features are
missing there, too.
Untrue.
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in
awhile. Thanks!
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-only widget set would
be a mistake. If I can't build it on my UltraSPARC or my OS X machine,
I can't run it...which means I'll be stuck at [what would become] an
old release of PCB.
Portability is important. It's also not difficult to achieve.
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, it's painfully obvious to me that very few of them
have ever heard of it.
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a quick description.
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this:
/---\ /---\
oooooo
123123
Get it?
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and such, the
on-off-on type would be referred to as something like SPDT with
center off, for example.
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we're missing some conditions which limit your selections,
otherwise I'd suggest MIG welding.
DJ, if I can't get this Coke washed out, you owe me one keyboard.
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. ;)
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shown does not generalize to three throws.
No it doesn't, but it illustrates the paragraph above it, and it was
the best I could do in rushed ASCII art. Sue me. ;)
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installed. They also handle higher frequencies better than
BNC.
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switch. Karel, would a PIN diode
switching arrangement work for your application?
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, inexplicably popular, and
inexplicably legal way to connect wires together.
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of a semiconductor switch. Karel, would a PIN diode
switching arrangement work for your application?
No.
Sad. Why not?
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-|
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. Making it *require* GTK+ will
effectively make it a Linux-only program.
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libtool seems to introduce more portability
problems than it solves.
Anyway, I will let you know what happens when I beat this latest
issue into submission.
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to
extract them from XFree86 manually. Here's a pointer:
http://pdx.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig/releases/
Oh wow, I wish I'd found that this morning. Thanks for the pointer!
The GTK+ compile is progressing. More later.
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On Feb 27, 2005, at 8:31 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
Ok, good. For people that doesn't want to jump quite that high Keith
Packard (I think) packaged the bits you need so you don't need to
extract them from XFree86 manually. Here's a pointer:
http://pdx.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig/releases
cards, could actually run this tool.
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the world's a Linux box the biggest reason
why a lot of today's free software is going into the crapper. If PCB
goes that way as well, it will be a damn shame.
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, it's ok that future versions will only support
Linux!.
However, it should still be optional for people who want to use older
machines.
Howabout people who are running NEWER systems that just don't support
the nonstandard extensions that some Linux systems do?
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lose
functionality, and I'd wind up losing my mind, so no thanks. That's
one of the reasons I moved all of my projects to PCB...it is portable
and runs on lots of different architectures.
At least, for a little while longer.
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will look for the
stuff that you referred to above. I will send you some virtual
uuencoded beer if I get this working. And I'll owe Marvin a big hug
for the verbal hand grenades I've been throwing at him all night.
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+ v2.6.2) causes gnome-terminal (the program I'm using to test
GTK+ shared library functionality) to function correctly again on a
display that lacks the RENDER extension.
More later.
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On Mar 1, 2005, at 1:43 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:
Daniel, and anyone else who is following this...Just FYI, the
library that breaks things by requiring the RENDER extension is
libgdk-x11. Pointing programs back at the one in /usr/lib (which was
overridden by the later version of the library
is
client-side vs. server-side rendering of fonts.
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?
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) because most of
my applications are better served with different hardware software
platforms.
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On Mar 1, 2005, at 10:34 PM, Ales Hvezda wrote:
Obviously, the word legacy should not have been in there.
Ok. It wasn't obvious, so I asked. I feel better now. :)
Neither should my Obviously be there either.
*snicker*
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it available on Windows
provides no motivation to do so.
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quality that is
largely incompatible with 90% of the rest of the stuff out there, and
it's being phased out in lots of organization. That's fact, not
emotion...though I must say I'm happy about it. :)
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a few of them in my Qbus
machines eventually!
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