Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-05 Thread Christopher Beland
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 20:16 +0100, Vladimir Nadvornik wrote: > It is difficult to pick one method when the requirements are different for > writting to image files or for writting to Geeqie's private data. > > Current configuration allows both these methods and also something inbetween. > But mayb

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-05 Thread Vladimir Nadvornik
Dne středa 04 únor 2009 Christopher Beland napsal(a): > On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 22:29 +0100, Vladimir Nadvornik wrote: > > - Queue is written on disk, it happens after click on the button, switch > > to another image, directory or timeout. Corresponding options are > > > > "Write metadata after timeo

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Vladimir Nadvornik
Dne středa 04 únor 2009 Greg Troxel napsal(a): > Vladimir Nadvornik writes: > > 1. edit/Adjust functions which rotate the image only on the screen + > >external programs (exiftran) that rotate the image file permanently > >- that is how it worked until now > > > > 2. edit/Adjust will updat

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Christopher Beland
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 22:29 +0100, Vladimir Nadvornik wrote: > - Queue is written on disk, it happens after click on the button, switch to > another image, directory or timeout. Corresponding options are > > "Write metadata after timeout" > "Write metadata on image change" > "Write metadata on di

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Vladimir Nadvornik
Dne středa 04 únor 2009 Vladimir Nadvornik napsal(a): > Hi, > > I'd like to hear your opinion on image orientation handling. There are 2 > possibilities: > > 1. edit/Adjust functions which rotate the image only on the screen + >external programs (exiftran) that rotate the image file permanently

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Frédéric
Le 4/2/2009, "Jon Senior" a écrit: >Because not everyone has their photos in Jpeg format. All my photography is in >Canon raw and my editing is done through ufraw and GIMP. I want my image >viewer to be exactly that, a viewer. I'm more than happy for geeqie to >intelligently rotate the embedd

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Jon Senior
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:16:50 +0100 Frédéric wrote: > But Geeqie runs on a real computer, where CPU is not a problem. So, why > do we bother with this workaround? Why do not always hard-rotate the > image, reset that boring EXIF flag (and the embedded thumbnail), so > everybody is happy? That's wh

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Frédéric
Le 4/2/2009, "Martin Stolle" a écrit: >Image rotation is by default not lossless and even jpeg-lossless >rotation has limitations. While "hard rotating" is an option that we >should provide, I don't think it should be the only-option (nor should >it be the default). The question is: why is the

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Martin Stolle
2009/2/4 Christopher Beland : > On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 12:07 +0100, Martin Stolle wrote: >> Why is this a nightmare? This is standard fare for pictures coming >> off the camera. And viewers that disregard the orientation bit should >> be shunned... > > Because users would experience wrongly rotate

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Christopher Beland
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 12:07 +0100, Martin Stolle wrote: > Why is this a nightmare? This is standard fare for pictures coming > off the camera. And viewers that disregard the orientation bit should > be shunned... Because users would experience wrongly rotated images without warning, and many wou

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Greg Troxel
Vladimir Nadvornik writes: > 1. edit/Adjust functions which rotate the image only on the screen + >external programs (exiftran) that rotate the image file permanently >- that is how it worked until now > > 2. edit/Adjust will update the metadata (either directly Exif in the image >

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Martin Stolle
2009/2/4 Christopher Beland : > How reliable is it that other applications will correctly interpret the > metadata and orient the image properly? I think the nightmare would be > if people thought their images were rotated permanently on disk, but > then they got different orientations depending o

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Martin Stolle
2009/2/4 Vladimir Nadvornik : > Hi, > > I'd like to hear your opinion on image orientation handling. There are 2 > possibilities: > > 1. edit/Adjust functions which rotate the image only on the screen + > external programs (exiftran) that rotate the image file permanently > - that is how it wor

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Christopher Beland
How reliable is it that other applications will correctly interpret the metadata and orient the image properly? I think the nightmare would be if people thought their images were rotated permanently on disk, but then they got different orientations depending on what non-geeqie image viewers or edi

[Geeqie-devel] Image orientation

2009-02-04 Thread Vladimir Nadvornik
Hi, I'd like to hear your opinion on image orientation handling. There are 2 possibilities: 1. edit/Adjust functions which rotate the image only on the screen + external programs (exiftran) that rotate the image file permanently - that is how it worked until now 2. edit/Adjust will updat