Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Manger, James H
>> can you please rename the production to something which is clearly not a >> base64 string. > HTTPbis describes the production as: > > "The "b64token" syntax allows the 66 unreserved URI characters > ([RFC3986]), plus a few others, so that it can hold a base64, base64url > (URL and filename sa

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-dps-framework-08

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Russ, On 2012-07-17, at 19:06, Russ Housley wrote: > I think you missed my point. In a PKI, when the issuer significantly changes > the policy, subsequent certificates have a different policy identifier. I do > not see a similar concept here. You're right, I did miss your point, quite tho

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-dps-framework-08

2012-07-17 Thread Russ Housley
Joe: I think you missed my point. In a PKI, when the issuer significantly changes the policy, subsequent certificates have a different policy identifier. I do not see a similar concept here. Russ On Jul 16, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Joe Abley wrote: > Hi Russ, > > On 2012-07-15, at 11:39, Russ Ho

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-behave-lsn-requirements-07

2012-07-17 Thread Pete Resnick
On 7/17/12 5:14 PM, John C Klensin wrote: --On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 13:57 -0500 Pete Resnick wrote: Perhaps I'm just being contrarian today, but I *do* think this document should be BCP and not Informational. It is not a requirements document in the sense that it is laying out requirem

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-behave-lsn-requirements-07

2012-07-17 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 13:57 -0500 Pete Resnick wrote: > Perhaps I'm just being contrarian today, but I *do* think this > document should be BCP and not Informational. It is not a > requirements document in the sense that it is laying out > requirements for future protocol documents being

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-behave-lsn-requirements-07

2012-07-17 Thread Pete Resnick
On 7/3/12 7:51 AM, Eggert, Lars wrote: On Jul 3, 2012, at 14:24, Alexey Melnikov wrote: I found it is to be odd to have a requirements document as a BCP, but I am sure you can sort the right status out with IESG. +1 I fail to see why Informational wouldn't be the better status. Lars

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-07-17 20:03, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-07-17 19:54, Mike Jones wrote: The change and the reason for it were called out to the working group in http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg09594.html. Indeed, as fait accompli. There were four days between the telco and the

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-07-17 20:01, Mike Jones wrote: You should actually probably make that name change request to the HTTPbis working group. I suspect that if they decide to change the name, that we could direct the RFC editor to make the same name change as HTTPbis does. ... HTTPbis describes the produc

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-07-17 19:54, Mike Jones wrote: The change and the reason for it were called out to the working group in http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg09594.html. Indeed, as fait accompli. There were four days between the telco and the publication of the new draft for actually

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Mike Jones
You should actually probably make that name change request to the HTTPbis working group. I suspect that if they decide to change the name, that we could direct the RFC editor to make the same name change as HTTPbis does. -- Mike -Original Message- From:

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Alexey Melnikov
On 17/07/2012 18:15, Mike Jones wrote: For clarity of discussion, the definition in question is: b64token= 1*( ALPHA / DIGIT / "-" / "." / "_" / "~" / "+" / "/" ) *"=" Note that b64token is a liberal syntax intended to permit base64 encoded content (hence the in

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Mike Jones
The change and the reason for it were called out to the working group in http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg09594.html. What additional text would you propose that the RFC editor add to explain the deviance from RFC 2617? Thanks,

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-07-17 19:39, Mike Jones wrote: Yes, the decision to remove normative references to HTTPbis was made during the public OAuth status call on Monday, July 9th, as the call participants wanted to be able to publish the RFC before HTTPbis is published as an RFC. Well, it would have been ni

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Mike Jones
Yes, the decision to remove normative references to HTTPbis was made during the public OAuth status call on Monday, July 9th, as the call participants wanted to be able to publish the RFC before HTTPbis is published as an RFC. The sense on that call was that HTTPbis wouldn't be an RFC until near

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-07-17 19:15, Mike Jones wrote: For clarity of discussion, the definition in question is: b64token= 1*( ALPHA / DIGIT / "-" / "." / "_" / "~" / "+" / "/" ) *"=" Note that b64token is a liberal syntax intended to permit base64 encoded content (hence the in

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Mike Jones
For clarity of discussion, the definition in question is: b64token= 1*( ALPHA / DIGIT / "-" / "." / "_" / "~" / "+" / "/" ) *"=" Note that b64token is a liberal syntax intended to permit base64 encoded content (hence the inclusion of the "+" and "/" characters and

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Alexey Melnikov
On 17/07/2012 17:40, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-07-17 18:10, Mike Jones wrote: FYI, the b64 token definition is identical to the one in draft-ietf-httpbis-p7-auth-20. If it works there, it should work for OAuth Bearer. ... +1; not every constraint needs to be expressed in the ABNF. "b64tok

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-07-17 18:10, Mike Jones wrote: FYI, the b64 token definition is identical to the one in draft-ietf-httpbis-p7-auth-20. If it works there, it should work for OAuth Bearer. ... +1; not every constraint needs to be expressed in the ABNF. "b64token" is here so recipients can parse the hea

Re: [Gen-art] [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Mike Jones
FYI, the b64 token definition is identical to the one in draft-ietf-httpbis-p7-auth-20. If it works there, it should work for OAuth Bearer. -- Mike From: Stephen Farrell Sent: 7/17/2012 4:12 AM To: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer@tools.ietf.org Cc: General Area

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Stephen Farrell
Folks. Please don't develop any new revisions for these documents right now. I know you can't officially post 'em anyway, but I don't want us to get tempted to roll new versions handling unrelated comments. (Alexey's comments are not unrelated.) I'd like to handle any tweaks needed as RFC editor

[Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Alexey Melnikov
I am still Ok with -22, but I have 1 new comment raised by introduction of the base64 ABNF non terminal: I think it would be worth adding a comment for b64token that points to the base64 RFC. The current ABNF is too permissive (arbitrary number of "=" allowed at the end) and there are enough b

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-behave-lsn-requirements-07

2012-07-17 Thread Alexey Melnikov
My favourite typo was fixed in -08 ;-), my comment on REQ 10 was replied to and I am still undecided on the document status (IESG should decided), so this document is Ok for publication as far as I am concerned. On 03/07/2012 13:24, Alexey Melnikov wrote: I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for

[Gen-art] Gen-art review of draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-17.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Just to confirm: my comments on -14 were addressed in -17. I think this is ready for publication now. ___ Gen-art mailing list Gen-art@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-art review of draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-14.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Alexey Melnikov
On 12/05/2012 03:03, ssakane wrote: Alexey, Hi Shoichi, Sorry, I've missed this email earlier. I just reviewed -17 and it is a big improvement. I am more or less happy with it. Thank you for your review and comments. Firstly, I really apologize that my response has been delayed. I had some

[Gen-art] Gen-ART telechat review of draft-ietf-6lowpan-btle-08.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Please see attached review. I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at < http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>. Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft. Docu