Re: [Gen-art] Assignment: draft-ietf-tls-ecc-12.txt

2006-01-17 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I don't see an IPR disclosure against this draft (not even a 3rd party one). I take it that the concern is related to the disclosure at http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/CERTICOM-IPSEC-ECC ? As Russ said, there are precedents for this way to deal with IPR - in fact if we have failed to get an IPR

Re: [Gen-art] Assignment: draft-ietf-tls-ecc-12.txt

2006-01-16 Thread Russ Housley
Brian: I support progress as Informational RFC. This is the approach that has been used in other Security Area WGs when the IPR status of the algorithm is unclear or unfavorable. RFC 3278 is an example. This document also deals with ECC, and it was produced by the S/MIME WG. RFC 3058 is

Re: [Gen-art] Assignment: draft-ietf-tls-ecc-12.txt

2006-01-15 Thread Joel M. Halpern
My concern is that it is very rare for the IETF to define bits on the wire in Informational RFCs. It is done for outside contributions, but not usually for our own work. Typically, if there is concern about standardization, we put something as experimental. If this is chosen for experimental

Re: [Gen-art] Assignment: draft-ietf-tls-ecc-12.txt

2006-01-15 Thread Joel M. Halpern
Given that I have no formal say in the matter, I believe that this is best dealt with by Russ and Brian. My job was to raise the issue. Yours, Joel At 10:50 AM 1/15/2006, Eric Rescorla wrote: Joel M. Halpern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My concern is that it is very rare for the IETF to define