Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-04-11 Thread Alissa Cooper
ginal message ---- >> From: Christian Hopps mailto:cho...@chopps.org>> >> Date: 06/03/2019 22:55 (GMT+00:00) >> To: Elwyn Davies mailto:elw...@dial.pipex.com>> >> Cc: gen-art@ietf.org <mailto:gen-art@ietf.org>, Christian Hopps >> mailto:cho.

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-09 Thread Christian Hopps
I will move this reference to normative, I was confused. Thanks, Chris. Benjamin Kaduk writes: Going up to a more general topic (and ignoring the particulars here): On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 05:50:00PM -0500, Christian Hopps wrote: Thanks for the review! Comments inline. > On Mar 5, 2019, a

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-08 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
Going up to a more general topic (and ignoring the particulars here): On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 05:50:00PM -0500, Christian Hopps wrote: > Thanks for the review! Comments inline. > > > On Mar 5, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Datatracker on behalf of Elwyn Davies > > wrote: > > > > > > Minor issues: > > Abs

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-07 Thread Christian Hopps
the 3 references? Thanks, Chris. > > Cheers, > Elwyn > > Sent from Samsung tablet. > > Original message > From: Christian Hopps > Date: 06/03/2019 22:55 (GMT+00:00) > To: Elwyn Davies > Cc: gen-art@ietf.org, Christian Hopps , > draft-ietf-

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-07 Thread Christian Hopps
[to this thread in general, not anyone in particular] We have done this work over 2 years in the working group. It has been presented multiple times with multiple revisions etc. We have arrived at a solution that works, and has cleared WG LC, and IETF LC. We have a process we need to follow it.

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-07 Thread Alex Campbell
In that case, why not make it so the tags are actually valid URIs, similar to XML namespaces? From: netmod on behalf of William Lupton Sent: Friday, 8 March 2019 7:37 a.m. To: Andy Bierman Cc: Datatracker on behalf of Elwyn Davies; IETF discussion list; NetMod

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-07 Thread Elwyn Davies
: 06/03/2019 22:55 (GMT+00:00) To: Elwyn Davies Cc: gen-art@ietf.org, Christian Hopps , draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags@ietf.org, "" , net...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06 [I covered this in the previous repl

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-07 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 02:02:39PM -0500, Christian Hopps wrote: > > We already have a reviewed and approved prefixes registry. > > Given nothing is broken here, and the current solution has been reviewed for > 2+ years, and with careful consideration approved by the working group, this > does

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-07 Thread Christian Hopps
We already have a reviewed and approved prefixes registry. Given nothing is broken here, and the current solution has been reviewed for 2+ years, and with careful consideration approved by the working group, this does not seem like change that should be considered (or perhaps even suggested) a

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-07 Thread Andy Bierman
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:42 AM Christian Hopps wrote: > > Andy Bierman writes: > > > I strongly agree that a prefix SHOULD be present, not MUST be present. > > I also think the 3 standard prefixes will be insufficient over time. > > (Having every organization on the planet except IETF share the

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-07 Thread Andy Bierman
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:37 AM William Lupton wrote: > This remark might be out of context (I haven't been following the details) > but this reference to prefixes makes me wonder whether there's any way that > registered URN namespaces could be regarded as valid prefixes. > https://www.iana.org/

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-07 Thread Christian Hopps
Andy Bierman writes: I strongly agree that a prefix SHOULD be present, not MUST be present. I also think the 3 standard prefixes will be insufficient over time. (Having every organization on the planet except IETF share the prefix "vendor:" seems a bit short-sighted) Sounds like you are a st

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-07 Thread William Lupton
This remark might be out of context (I haven't been following the details) but this reference to prefixes makes me wonder whether there's any way that registered URN namespaces could be regarded as valid prefixes. https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml On Thu, 7 Mar 2

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-07 Thread Andy Bierman
On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:51 PM Christian Hopps wrote: > Thanks for the review! Comments inline. > > > On Mar 5, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Datatracker on behalf of Elwyn Davies < > ietf-secretariat-re...@ietf.org> wrote: > > > > Reviewer: Elwyn Davies > > Review result: Almost Ready > > > > > If I re

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-06 Thread Christian Hopps
[I covered this in the previous reply I just sent, and updated the model text in response too..] The intent here is to not restrict users of tags where we don't have to. The prefix is only intended to avoid collision between disconnected groups (designers, implementers and users), since users a

Re: [Gen-art] [netmod] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-module-tags-06

2019-03-06 Thread Christian Hopps
Thanks for the review! Comments inline. > On Mar 5, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Datatracker on behalf of Elwyn Davies > wrote: > > Reviewer: Elwyn Davies > Review result: Almost Ready > > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documen