Re: [Gen-art] [Last-Call] [EXTERNAL] Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread Salz, Rich
* I dove into these issues here: draft-touch-time * Interesting draft, but I am surprised that you do not note PTP/IEEE1588. NTP WG works with the PTP folks. ___ Gen-art mailing list Gen-art@ietf.org

[Gen-art] Review Assignments

2019-11-08 Thread Jean Mahoney via Datatracker
Hi all, The following reviewers have assignments: Last calls: Reviewer Type LC end Draft Francis Dupont Last Call 2019-11-14 draft-ietf-hip-dex-11 (-06 lc reviewed) Roni Even Last Call 2019-11-22 draft-schaad-cbor-content-01 Vijay Gurbani

Re: [Gen-art] [Last-Call] [EXTERNAL] Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread Joe Touch
The draft is more about time scales than protocols used to sync them. NTP is mentioned largely in its use of UTC. PTP supports a variety of time scales so it doesn’t add much to the discussion. Joe > On Nov 8, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > > >> On 8 Nov 2019, at 15:40, Joe

Re: [Gen-art] [Last-Call] [EXTERNAL] Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread Laurence Lundblade
CBORbis defines an “Epoch-based Date/Time” here making normative reference to Posix time with a brief discussion of leap seconds, positive and negative values and number of bits. (I’m not familiar with

Re: [Gen-art] [dtn] [Last-Call] [EXTERNAL] Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread lloyd . wood=40yahoo . co . uk
One of the more enjoyable aspects of the Bundle Protocol is how you can't reliably correct a misset clock on a bundle node by using the bundle protocol itself - because the bundles containing payloads commanding the time change could well be expired and discarded before being carried out, once

[Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-6man-ra-pref64-07

2019-11-08 Thread Joel Halpern via Datatracker
Reviewer: Joel Halpern Review result: Ready I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more

Re: [Gen-art] [EXTERNAL] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread Stewart Bryant
I think you are right, apologies. However, this subject is such a minefield that the wise thing to do is to have the section reviewed by someone from the NTP/TICTOC WG. - Stewart > On 8 Nov 2019, at 15:34, Burleigh, Scott C (US 312B) > wrote: > > I disagree. From Wikipedia: > > Unix time

Re: [Gen-art] [Last-Call] [EXTERNAL] Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread Stewart Bryant
> On 8 Nov 2019, at 15:40, Joe Touch wrote: > > Unix time != the Posix time API. One is a time scale; the other is the > interface to obtain potentially many different time scales. > > I dove into these issues here: draft-touch-time > > Joe Interesting draft, but I am surprised that you do

Re: [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread lloyd . wood=40yahoo . co . uk
Yes, there is a risk that systems will drift due to accumulated leap seconds without updates.We worked throuugh the details...  http://lloydwood.users.sourceforge.net/Personal/L.Wood/publications/wood-ieee-aerospace-2009-bundle-problems.pdf   but keeping time accurately and continuously

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread Magnus Westerlund
Hi Stewart, As responsible AD I like to add a bit here. Please see inline. The WG will still need to discuss how to address these comments. Regarding the "pre-allocation" of certain bits and code-points, I would tend to agree. I think one can put tham as reserved in this specification. And in

Re: [Gen-art] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread Burleigh, Scott C (US 312B)
I disagree. From Wikipedia: Unix time (also known as Epoch time, POSIX time,[1] seconds since the Epoch,[2] or UNIX Epoch

Re: [Gen-art] [Last-Call] [EXTERNAL] Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread Salz, Rich
I strongly suggest you talk with NTP WG folks about this. ___ Gen-art mailing list Gen-art@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art

Re: [Gen-art] [Last-Call] [EXTERNAL] Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-17

2019-11-08 Thread Joe Touch
Unix time != the Posix time API. One is a time scale; the other is the interface to obtain potentially many different time scales. I dove into these issues here: draft-touch-time Joe > On Nov 8, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Burleigh, Scott C (US 312B) > wrote: > > I disagree. From Wikipedia: > >