Re: [Gendergap] Changing the Chelsea Manning article (and how women were shouted down)

2013-08-27 Thread Gayle Karen Young
I think sometimes about the e.e. cummings quote "To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting" (citation needed) - that it also means that to support

Re: [Gendergap] Changing the Chelsea Manning article (and how women were shouted down)

2013-08-27 Thread Sue Gardner
One thing I find interesting about the discussions on this is that people seem to be, sometimes, applying different standards from how we normally handle ourselves. So on WP normally, there is some deference paid to expertise (as distinct from credentials). Normally, editors will often defer to oth