Re: [Gendergap] Meeting at the Wikiconference?

2015-10-05 Thread Katherine Casey
I will be there in my WMF staff capacity and I would love for there to be a gendergap meetup! I'm busy from dinnertime onwards on Saturday 10/10, but other than that I can make time for whenever works for people. A lunchtime meetup sounds like a good place to start. -Karen/Fluffernutter On Sun,

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread Katherine Casey
I recognize at least some of the names on the attendance list there as people who don't, to the best of my knowledge, identify as being of African descent, so it doesn't appear to have been an event that excluded anyone. My guess would be that the open to bit is intended to bring in people who

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Day NYC 2015 mini-conferenceh for te project's 14th birthday

2015-03-23 Thread Katherine Casey
I doubt I'd attend any event purporting to recruit women that nevertheless limited itself to people who were born female; that's very much a type of exclusion I'm uncomfortable with. In general, however, there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from arranging a women-centric (or even

Re: [Gendergap] FW: [Social-media] Blog post: Meet some of the women who contribute to Wikipedia

2015-03-06 Thread Katherine Casey
I might be a little punch-drunk from all the gender drama lately, but...meet some of the women who edit Wikipedia! sounds more like an introduction to a speed-dating event to me than what is presumably intended to be a demystification/de-othering blog post. Come meet some women isn't exactly a

Re: [Gendergap] FW: [Social-media] Blog post: Meet some of the women who contribute to Wikipedia

2015-03-06 Thread Katherine Casey
, as one does when one 'meets' women that's part of the cultural baggage of the phrase. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that is Fabrice's intent. What edits would you suggest? Pine On Mar 6, 2015 4:46 PM, Katherine Casey fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com

Re: [Gendergap] Inspire Campaign launches today!

2015-03-05 Thread Katherine Casey
If memory serves, another survey (not sure if before or after the 9%, or where to find it, off the top of my head - maybe someone else remembers?) came up with something like 13% female. So my guess is they added in some margin of error, and decided less than 20% was the most accurate way to

Re: [Gendergap] Thank someone today.

2015-02-04 Thread Katherine Casey
I have found myself using the thank button more than usual recently. In the middle of all the turmoil that goes on onwiki, a simple hey, that thing you did that you thought no one noticed? Yeah, thanks for doing that goes a long way toward cancelling some of it out. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:52

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

2015-01-26 Thread Katherine Casey
Fae, this is really very off-topic for this thread at this point. Would mind going off-list if you want to discuss personal history with others? On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest that as a supporter and administrator of a website that labels me as a faggot,

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread Katherine Casey
*Also note many women consider cis to be an insult that eliminates womens experience as women, who've been identified as and identify as women from birth, and are happy and even proud to be women.* ...wha? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: On

Re: [Gendergap] Strong support for grants directly related to addressing the gender gap

2015-01-06 Thread Katherine Casey
This is awesome! I can't wait to see what initiatives people come up with. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: (Changing the perspective on the previous thread a bit) Well, it's official - the Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) and Project Event Grants (PEG)

Re: [Gendergap] GGTF talk page

2014-12-31 Thread Katherine Casey
Well, how would you limit participation to just those people? There's no page-protection option for check person's gender, then allow edits only if 'female', and Wikipedia doesn't currently have any policies that would allow, like, topic bans from a Wikiproject based on gender rather than

Re: [Gendergap] Arbcom election

2014-12-09 Thread Katherine Casey
What proportion of the rest had accounts explicitly marked as male? My first thought is that most people of all genders probably get to that section of Preferences, go Why would mediawiki want to know my gender in the first place? This is dumb and skip it. Or they never fiddle with their

Re: [Gendergap] Survey re: gender gap

2014-10-14 Thread Katherine Casey
I just tried to take it and it ended abruptly with You have already taken this survey. after about five pages (the last button I filled in was rating something like I avoid certain areas of the community because I have been harassed). Does that mean the survey was complete, or did I hit a bug? On

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia and the war on women’s dignity

2014-09-09 Thread Katherine Casey
I don't think it's appropriate to use this list to link to pages that out other users. I understand your frustration with nothing onwiki getting done, Carol, I truly do, but part of the social contract of being a Wikipedian is that we're expected to not attack the real lives of other Wikipedians -

Re: [Gendergap] A cautionary tale

2014-06-23 Thread Katherine Casey
Responding to this on my phone, so please excuse what I assume will be wonky formatting/quoting, but: Derric, you say you hope your email didn't come across as shouting over the women or generalizing about them, but to me it did (and I say this not just to make you feel bad - I see you've

Re: [Gendergap] A cautionary tale

2014-06-23 Thread Katherine Casey
Actually, I think there's something to be said for downvoting. Not in the reddit i disagree sense, but in the slashdot/ meta filter comments downvoted/flagged past a certain point will be hidden/deleted sense. It would obviously take a lot of work to make that work within the media wiki software

[Gendergap] New York Magazine article summaries the gender gap issue in one conversation

2014-06-06 Thread Katherine Casey
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/06/love-and-drama-at-the-wikipedia-conference.html One quote, of many possible ones: “We're really the typical demographic, actually,” says Alex Stinson, back on the leather couches. “White, male techies with college degrees,” agrees Kevin

Re: [Gendergap] interviews for Women Wikipedia IEG

2014-06-05 Thread Katherine Casey
I've looked into this a bit. The page history is difficult to interpret, because it now shows non-contiguous edits as contiguous (a side effect of the attending administrator trying to delete versions that contained copyright violations and keep ones that didn't), but the upshot is that the

Re: [Gendergap] can the Commons images thread move?

2013-05-14 Thread Katherine Casey
I'm not sure I see the pressing reason why this thread needs to go on-wiki. Commons doesn't have a venue for discussing problems this fundamental with it as far as I know, and people have spoken in this thread who either do not or will not participate on-wiki on Commons. Moving the thread on-wiki

Re: [Gendergap] Sexuality-related userboxen: give me your thoughts!

2013-05-14 Thread Katherine Casey
(Correction: the first abstinence userbox reads This user practices abstinence, not This user practices abstinence but still has a healthy sex drive thank you very much.) On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Katherine Casey fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote: I've noticed that enwp has a *lot

Re: [Gendergap] can the Commons images thread move?

2013-05-14 Thread Katherine Casey
Phoebe, I would really suggest reading the emails if you're interested in the discussion (or, conversely, not asking for a summary if you're not), but here's a quick-and-dirty condensation off the top of my head: I started the thread to discuss how disposition of topless photo of a woman on

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-13 Thread Katherine Casey
Russavia and Andreas, I want to take this opportunity to point out that the style of argument the two of you have been engaged in since last night is exactly what some of us mean when we refer to an aggressive atmosphere that makes us uncomfortable on the projects. Turning a disagreement over how

Re: [Gendergap] avoiding another categorygate

2013-05-13 Thread Katherine Casey
Allegations of prostitution are allegations of illegal activities in many jurisdictions, which makes any unsourced edits accusing people in those jurisdictions of prostitution potentially libelous. I'm going to look over the category myself, but please please, anyone else who does so (or already

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-12 Thread Katherine Casey
on the project, noting that you don't have many contributions there ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fluffernutter), and I am again urging you to come and join us. Are you up for that challenge? Cheers, Russavia On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Katherine Casey

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-10 Thread Katherine Casey
From a common-sense perspective, Pete, I'd say that if the image was taken in a private place, shows an identifiable person, and that person does not give permission for us to be using their likeness, it should be a no-brainer that we don't have the right (ethically, at least, in light of the

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Katherine Casey
Oh dear, I'm not sure there's enough vodka in the universe for us all to play that drinking game, Daniel! Especially given that closed by Mattbuck as delete probably ought to be a finish your drink qualifier... -Fluffernutter On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case

[Gendergap] Topless image retention on Commons and use on enwp

2013-04-29 Thread Katherine Casey
Came across this kerfuffle today. I'd love to see what more gendergap-focused people think about the following progression of events (note: the image is NSFW, but each of the links I'm providing are SFW if you don't click through to the image/article): -

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention on Commons and use on enwp

2013-04-29 Thread Katherine Casey
that I let this argument - being made by male Commonists - trigger me to not participate in the conversations is an entirely different psychological issue in itself! Oy vey. Gah. :( -Sarah On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Katherine Casey fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote: Came across

Re: [Gendergap] I f***ing love science

2013-03-31 Thread Katherine Casey
Having an ungendered username gets me some interesting interactions when people assume that because I'm not explicitly female, I must be male. Had a fun experience on IRC last night where I asked someone to stop making jokes about women's boobs because it sounded pretty creepy toward all women,

[Gendergap] Please remember your words here are publicly viewable

2013-02-02 Thread Katherine Casey
Hi all, I'm not a listmod, so this is no sort of an official communication, but I want to remind everyone that this is a publicly-archived mailing list under the umbrella of the WMF. This means that what you say here can, and probably will, be seen by people not involved in the list, including