Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-08 Thread Moriel Schottlender
> > moriel, i do not agree to the abstraction you introduce here. a > community consists of persons afaik. it is a person which feels, not a > community. if there is a rule for the community its purpose is to > apply to a person part of the community. sarah sharp tried to make a > rule "do not

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-08 Thread Moriel Schottlender
Is there going to be a way to join remotely? I'd love to do that if possible. On Oct 8, 2015 12:39 PM, "Pine W" wrote: > FWIW, some of us attending WCONUSA are hoping to have an unconference > session about incentivizing desirable user behaviors on ENWP, and I imagine > that

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread Moriel Schottlender
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:44 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: > to let wikipedia NPOV also have a word, here what linus torvalds > thought about it two years ago: >http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel=137392506516022=2 > in a summary, torvalds argues that sarah sharp should

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

2015-10-07 Thread Moriel Schottlender
want* to have, and who in this community do we want to encourage? The ones who pound their chests and bully others? If so, then we must understand we do this at the expense of others who can't stand it, even if they're much better contributors. We need to make a choice. > > > On 7

Re: [Gendergap] Addressing incivility (was: men on lists)

2014-07-05 Thread Moriel Schottlender
​Janine, ​ Ryan, Pete and Moriel, these are great ideas. ​I love the idea of a button that anyone can press to send an alert to a Wikiquette team. How can an idea like this be moved forward? There could be different levels of urgency (low: general incivility; medium: sexism, racism,

Re: [Gendergap] Addressing incivility (was: men on lists)

2014-07-04 Thread Moriel Schottlender
Online communities can allow anyone to report problem posts or PMs. Only the moderators see these reports, not the general membership or public. For example, Simple Machines Forum has a report link on every post. I've been part of the moderation team in scienceforums.net for the past 6-7

Re: [Gendergap] A cautionary tale

2014-06-23 Thread Moriel Schottlender
Did this really just happen? Did we really just read someone suggesting that women are not participating as much in the mailing list -- with the more-than-subtle suggestion of the cause being that they didn't feel this group is completely woman-friendly -- and your response was to remind us what

Re: [Gendergap] A cautionary tale

2014-06-23 Thread Moriel Schottlender
experience.” Agreed. Also, for the record, Violet Blue is a great writer in my opinion. Thank you, Derric Atzrott *From:* gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Moriel Schottlender *Sent:* 23 June 2014 11:23 *To:* Addressing

Re: [Gendergap] [LGBT] topless cheesecake on the en.wiki Main Page

2014-05-18 Thread Moriel Schottlender
trying to sell us something. If this type of image hasn't appeared on PotD before, that's * *more** reason to feature it, not less. Powers 8^] -Original Message- *From:* Moriel Schottlender [mailto:mor...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 17 May 2014 15:35

Re: [Gendergap] [LGBT] topless cheesecake on the en.wiki Main Page

2014-05-17 Thread Moriel Schottlender
I'm also not entirely sure how this relates to LGBT issues, let alone health ones, I may be missing the point (can you clarify further?) She is, also, not quite a swimsuit girl. For one, not many swimmers swim without a top. For another, I have never seen anyone stands in such a pose naturally for

Re: [Gendergap] topless cheesecake on the en.wiki Main Page

2014-05-14 Thread Moriel Schottlender
My very brief contribution (in between exams) with something I think deserves emphasis: if we agree that women and non-heterosexual-men are already underrepresented, then having whatever representation we already have be sexualized produces the exact opposite result to the equal representation we