From: jane...@gmail.com
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] men on lists
I agree with Moriel in that I don't know if we can deal or attempt to
fix the gendergap issues in Wikipedia without engaging the men. and there
is a Wikimania submission that deals
kunskap. Det är vårt mål.
Jimmy Wales
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 13:08:25 +0200
From: jane...@gmail.com
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] men on lists
I agree with Moriel in that I don't know if we can deal or attempt to fix the
gendergap issues in Wikipedia without
Hi Moriel and others,
Do you have a list of realistic changes in mind for the community?
I hear almost no one say that the typical state of (in)civility on wiki or
on Wikimedia-l is good enough or that people are being hypersensitive, so I
get the sense that there's a lot of agreement that we
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gendergap@lists.wikimedia.orgmailto:gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] men on lists
Hi Moriel and others,
Do you have a list of realistic changes in mind for the community?
I hear almost no one say that the typical state of (in)civility on wiki or on
Wikimedia-l is good
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Valerie Aurora
vale...@adainitiative.org wrote:
and our mailing lists
were more enjoyable and fulfilling for men looking for emotional
boosts than for women looking for a supportive environment where they
could talk about Linux.
Do you have a study backing
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 1:15 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Valerie Aurora vale...@adainitiative.org
wrote:
Hi Derric,
This list is not for the purpose of improving people's communication
skills. If you would like to help women in Wikimedia
Valerie's interesting comments are in line with one of the reasons I've
stayed off of this list in the past. I am ok with women having a space
without men around, just like I feel men should be able to have a space
without women around. I'm familiar with a workplace where at least one
employee
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 13:05:00 -0400
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] men on lists
Would anybody object to me hijacking this thread to use as a sort of
meta thread for what just happened? I have further questions and things to
explain and get feedback on. I
On 6/24/2014 4:02 PM, Kevin Gorman wrote:
If there is a problematic situation that the list moderators have
missed (which are currently me, Sue Gardner - who tends to be busy
enough to not be an active moderator, and Liz Kent,) I would encourage
anyone concerned about it to bring it to our
Hi all -
Speaking as one of the list moderators, I unfortunately don't always have
time to proactively reach out to problematic members, or even to read all
list traffic on a timely basis at all times. (For instance, because I'm in
the process of setting up a new house - I haven't read the
There is a tendency of men to disregard women's discussion of issues
that affect them so, yes, men on a list like this can undermine its
purpose.
--Kathleen
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm sorry Derric, but I think the topic of this thread is the notion
I'm sorry Derric, but I think the topic of this thread is the notion that
many men, including those in administrator roles (e.g. list moderators)
simply don't even recognize misogyny, and don't recognize the importance of
providing systems by which women (and others, for that matter) can
Derric, if I may suggest - the best way to get a mailing list back on topic
is to write to the topic, not to remind people of the rules.
Risker/Anne
On 23 June 2014 11:49, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:
I'm sorry Derric, but I think the topic of this thread is the notion
Ok, I shouldn't have said two women but two members, the gender was
unimportant.
Risker, 23/06/2014 18:02:
Derric, if I may suggest - the best way to get a mailing list back on
topic is to write to the topic,
Sure, and of course the topic is throwing judgements on who missed the
point:
On 6/23/2014 11:45 AM, Kathleen McCook wrote:
There is a tendency of men to disregard women's discussion of issues
that affect them so, yes, men on a list like this can undermine its
purpose.
--Kathleen
FYI, for those who want to read the early archives, they are linked from
the bottom
Would anybody object to me hijacking this thread to use as a sort of meta
thread for what just happened? I have further questions and things to explain
and get feedback on. I can start another thread if wanted.
This whole situation sort of reminds me of when I tried suggesting on
Wikitech-l
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