[Jgeneral] Report of the J wiki meeting of 2023-08-10

2023-08-11 Thread 'robert therriault' via General
== Report of Meeting 2023-08-10 ==

Present: Art Anger, Ed Gottsman, and Bob Therriault

Full transcripts of this meeting are now available on the its wiki page. 
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki/Report_of_Meeting_2023-08-10

1) Ed presented the issues that he was having incorporating Live Search into 
AWS because successive uses of curl are completed sequentially, which slows 
down the refinement of the search as characters are added by the user. 

2) Bob and Ed further discussed whether curl might be used to keep a version of 
the wiki stored locally on the user's machine up to date from AWS with the Live 
Search referencing this local repository.

3) Bob talked about the wiki being an educational tool. This requires further 
categorization before it is sufficiently advanced to allow more effective 
participation. Ed posited that search is an aspect of categorization in the 
sense that search automatically categorizes to present its results. Ed feels 
most of his work is more presentation.

4) Ed felt that there is a predisposition in the J community towards math 
rather than as a general purpose language. The direction of the wiki as an 
education tool seems to reinforce math uses within the J community. Bob 
mentioned combinators and the fact that the language can use those effectively 
beyond math. The standard library is an example of the general purpose 
programming language in practice and that way of using J could be a better 
bridge to general programmers. Ed feels that this is a missed opportunity as he 
finds J a really good general purpose programming environment.

For access to previous meeting reports 
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Re: [Jgeneral] can't load math/cal in j9.4 or j9.5 beta

2023-08-11 Thread chris burke
Thanks Raul and Ian.

As suggested, I will move the addons back to jsoftware, and also fix
the version number.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 5:27 PM Ian Clark  wrote:
>
> Thanks for alerting me to this 4 year old situation, which I had quite
> forgotten about.
>
> I am the owner of https://github.com/earthspot/math_cal -an experimental
> version of the addon: math/cal .
> There is no good reason why I should continue to own it. I recommend
> jsoftware takes it over, and give permission for
> https://github.com/earthspot/math_cal to be cloned for the purpose. Ditto
> the associated addons:
> https://github.com/earthspot/math_uu
> https://github.com/earthspot/math_tabula
>
> Ian Clark
>
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 at 14:55, chris burke  wrote:
>
> > Thanks for pointing this out.
> >
> > The repo for the addon is https://github.com/earthspot/math_cal, see
> > the source directory . The jsoftware original has been archived.
> >
> > Your fix works, but a slightly better change for 9.4 and 9.5 would be
> > based on JVERSION_NUMBER, e.g. in the current beta:
> >
> >JVERSION_NUMBER
> > 9050005
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 6:09 AM Raul Miller  wrote:
> > >
> > > J's math/cal has a version test which needs to be fixed.
> > >
> > > On line 25,
> > >
> > > if. 900 < ". }. '/' taketo 9!:14'' do.
> > >
> > > should become
> > >
> > > if. 900 < ". }. '/' taketo rplc&'.0' 9!:14'' do.
> > >
> > > However, https://github.com/jsoftware/math_cal/blob/master/cal.ijs
> > > does not represent this script, so I cannot submit a fix through
> > > github.
> > >
> > > FYI,
> > >
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> > > Raul
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