Re: [VOTE] retire java gump

2004-06-20 Thread Michael Davey
robert burrell donkin wrote: they could easily be hosted offshore with traditional gump but unless some people step up and make the offshore builds happen, they won't. for me, this is the major obstacle and is independent of the decision to officially stop development of traditional gump. I

Re: [VOTE RESULTS] Retire Java Gump

2004-06-18 Thread Michael Davey
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: My problem is that suggestion of a -1 ... 'cos although we won't actually stop folks running traditional Gumps, we aren't wanting to maintain two metadata trees, we aren't wanting to maintain Traditional to work on current metadata. Traditional will (with Jakarta Commons so

[PATCH] nag email for dom4j project

2004-06-17 Thread Michael Davey
Michael Davey wrote: Maarten Coene wrote: Hi, is it possible to send an email to the dom4j-dev emaillist everytime the build of dom4j fails? The address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the correct place for this request. I've copied this reply

Re: nag email for dom4j project

2004-06-17 Thread Michael Davey
Maarten Coene wrote: Hi, is it possible to send an email to the dom4j-dev emaillist everytime the build of dom4j fails? The address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the correct place for this request. I've copied this reply there. -- Michael

[RT] Java as a dependency

2004-06-17 Thread Michael Davey
Hi, With the recent announcement from Sun regarding J2SE snapshots, it occurred to me that it would be possible to create an ant task that could fetch the tarball from Sun's server, install it and potentially pass the path back to Gump. There are social and legal issues (such as how to handle

Re: (CVS SVN) Re: [VOTE] retire java gump

2004-06-13 Thread Michael Davey
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: We could take the opportunity to: 1) Move Gump (Python) core to SVN 2) Move Gump Metadata to a separate CVS repository [to move to SVN one day in the future, when all ASF committer are comfortable w/ SVN]. We could leave the current repository as is, tagged but even CVS HEAD

Re: Need help with : pydoc pychecker

2004-06-11 Thread Michael Davey
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: Would you mind submitting this request to JIRA? logged as GUMP-63: http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/browse/GUMP-63 -- Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Need help with : pydoc pychecker

2004-06-10 Thread Michael Davey
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: PYDOC: [snip suggestion for pydoc server on Apache] Any thoughts on this? Is it overkill? No, it is not overkill. Ought we just expect developers to do the above? Nope. That would be like expecting developers to run ant javadoc for themselves rather than pointing them

Re: [RT] Gump service

2004-06-09 Thread Michael Davey
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: [snip] Server component to look at the projects and work out which ones Gump needs to try to build next. To start off, the algorithm stays as it is now. In future we can look to detect if there have been CVS commits since last build and so on. Server component puts n work

Re: BATCH: Unable to send...

2004-06-09 Thread Michael Davey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Gumpmeisters, The following 5 notifys should have been sent *** G U M P [EMAIL PROTECTED]: checkstyle/checkstyle-test failed [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ant-contrib/ant-contrib-test success [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

[RT] Gump service (was: brutus)

2004-06-08 Thread Michael Davey
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: 4) Figuring out a way (some service?) to have a continuous Gump. The gump every three hours line in crontab is a waste of two hours when builds take 4 hours. I'd like some sort of 'permanent restart' loop. I keep thinking about this (especially as one of my private gumps

Re: [VOTE] retire java gump

2004-06-08 Thread Michael Davey
Leo Simons wrote: Hi gang! And now for something completely different... Saw both Adam and Stefan suggest this recently. I concur. Let's retire (kill off sounds way to harsh for this faithful servant!) the java version of gump. The python one is now superior in most ways, and Adam keeps getting

Re: core/gumpenv.py and check_pgrep

2004-06-06 Thread Michael Davey
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: One thing I dislike about Python (for Gump) is we've not found a nicer way to timeout processes. One thing I dislike about Gump's implementation (for this part) is that it runs the program, not just detects it on the PATH - but this is 'cos since we had code to do this what

core/gumpenv.py and check_pgrep

2004-06-05 Thread Michael Davey
Hi, PythonGump's check_pgrep test fails on Solaris when pgrep is present. The problem is that pgrep returns error code 2 on Solaris but code 0 on Linux: bash$ pgrep -help pgrep: illegal option -- h Usage: pgrep [-flnovx] [-d delim] [-P ppidlist] [-g pgrplist] [-s sidlist] [-u euidlist]

[Ant] bootstrap-ant no longer builds (was: Re: [logging][PROPOSAL] a solution to incompatibility between log4j versions)

2004-05-19 Thread Michael Davey
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: someone wrote: Moreover, we have provided very clear set of instructions that safely address the c-l compilation problems. I think log4j is the wrong tree to bark at. I noticed that http://gump.covalent.net/log/bootstrap-ant.htmlbootstrap-ant no longer builds. Is it a

Re: [RT] Improving on gump

2004-04-28 Thread Michael Davey
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I'm in a ISO meeting so I don't have much time, ...and then goes on to propose a new algorithm that causes the integration to try to back-off until something builds ;) get latest B build it if successful { get latest A build it against latest B if

Gump status

2004-04-21 Thread Michael Davey
Hi, The status page http://gump.apache.org/status.html is looking out of date. Perhaps the page could be replaced with a link to peas and carrots? -- Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Web navigation

2004-04-20 Thread Michael Davey
Hi, I have two observations on the current web navigation: 1. It is too hard to find an overview of the most recent gump run. From http://gump.apache.org/, it would be nice to have a link under Results for the latest results. 2. It would be nice if the page http://gump.covalent.net/log/

Re: window of opportunity

2004-04-10 Thread Michael Davey
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: Good point. It needs looking into. Until then, be aware there are other servers that might help you: http://lsd.student.utwente.nl/gump/servers.html Perhaps enter a JIRA entry (I vaguely recall a request to the mailing list) for start times to be captured and

Bootstrapping Gump (was: Re: System Info)

2004-04-05 Thread Michael Davey
Leo Simons wrote: being a pragmatist, if I can apt-get install gump, that would be perfect, regardless of the dependencies. In case you don't know, apt could download all those dependencies before installing gump. I know that Ant is supposed to be a Java build system but these days it is so

Re: [GUMP@lsd]: xml-xerces2/dist-xerces failed

2004-04-04 Thread Michael Davey
Sam Ruby wrote: To whom it may engage... [snip] [java] [Xalan2Processor] Applying XSL sheet sbk:/style/stylesheets/any2header.xsl [java] Exception in thread main java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable

Re: Stuff TODO

2004-04-02 Thread Michael Davey
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: Sam's recent posting reminded me of a couple more: 1) A page comparing the entities where a status differs (on the N servers any Gump is aware of). No guarantees that this is an environmental problem (it could be timing) but it'd be a nice 'dashboard'. Would it be

Re: Downloading Maven to brutus

2004-03-30 Thread Michael Davey
You've got the URL for the redirect-to-mirror script. It would be useful if someone updated the script to detect browser type and do an auto-redirect for tools like wget, but never mind. try this: wget -C=off http://www.apache.org/dist/maven/binaries/maven-1.0-rc2.tar.gz -C=off turns off the

Re: [RT] Let each project run using the last successfull jar from each dependency

2004-03-28 Thread Michael Davey
Let's attempt to learn as much as possible on each run. And that means using the newest build available. I do see one possible problem we could face From above let project A and project B both depend on Project Z Project Z makes a change and project B makes a change to match. Now since

Re: Gump Thrashing/Spinning...

2004-03-25 Thread Michael Davey
Adam Jack wrote: [snip] I think it is forrest that is where we are getting stuck right now. Now sure why, but it is locking up. So, if we want forest, we have to figure out how to get inside that problem. Which version are you using? Probably coincidence, but I recently stopped using CVS

Re: fog factor

2004-03-24 Thread Michael Davey
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Adam, I think we should get rid of FoG entirely until we have a better solution. It is causing more harm than good. Don't get rid of it. I'd like to sugegst two simple changes that I think would really help the community out: * Rename it to Friendship factor *

Re: How to debug a Gump build problem?

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Davey
Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The biggest problem is that Gump doesn't run the build in the same than projects are running their builds! It's using sysclasspathonly feature and that's not the way it's run by project. [snip] Maybe an

Re: [RT] Moving gump forward

2004-03-08 Thread Michael Davey
2) we must make sure that people's nagged uncomfort grows with the amount of dependecies they break! Note that giving them a number doesn't work, you have to build up the entire list!!! you have to make them feel really uncomfortable. The more uncomfortable, the more energy they are going to