On 2020-03-07, Mark Thomas wrote:

> On 07/03/2020 15:35, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
>> Hi all

>> nowadays Gump has become a tool that really only gets used by Tomcat. As
>> long as it is useful for Tomcat this is probably fine. But is this the
>> future of this project? Honestly, I haven't got any other vision to
>> share.

> It is definitely useful for Tomcat and indirectly for its dependencies.
> We caught a regression in OpenSSL master that would otherwise have gone
> unnoticed.

This is great.

>> I wonder whether this in any way affects Gump's position of an Apache
>> TLP. We've always been a special kind of project, more like an
>> infrastructure service than a project that creates releases.

> Interesting question.

> As I see it the options are:

> a) continue as is
> b) hand over to infra to maintain
> c) hand over to the Tomcat PMC to maintain

> I think b) is the least likely. I don't think infra would accept it. I
> might be wrong. I'll ask.

I had similar thoughts myself but dismissed your option b immediately.

> If the board is happy with a) and we have 3 PMC members then the status
> quo is probably the least work.

Where the 3 PMC member rule really only is there so the PMC can cut a
release - which we've never done and probably will never do.

> c) probably means retiring the Gump project but with the slight twist
> that ongoing maintenance of the Gump svn repo is handed over to the
> Tomcat PMC rather than it being made read-only. I don't know what the
> Tomcat community would say to that. I'll ask.

Thank you.

> I don't think we need to be in any great rush to decide what to do. I
> think we have the 3 PMC members (we can always do a roll-call on
> private@ to confirm that if we want) so the status quo is OK.

Yes, this is true.

Cheers

        Stefan

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