Re: [geronimo] Core Service Framework (Was: RE: Names Projects)

2003-08-14 Thread James Strachan
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 04:10 pm, J Aaron Farr wrote: -Original Message- From: Aaron Mulder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:21 PM On the project front, am I correct that the goal is to integrate other projects wherever possible and only

FW: Invitation to participate in Apache J2EE efforts

2003-08-14 Thread Stephan Hesmer
Return Receipt Your FW: Invitation to participate in Apache J2EE efforts document :

RE: Volunteers - Topics

2003-08-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Yes... but some people... like me want to know who is involved in what topic to avoid work in the same topic nothing more Right. :-) All that I said was that the place for discussing the J2EE subprojects is still on the geronimo-dev list. The idea in his e-mail made sense, but the target

Re: where should the maven-generated website go?

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Wright
Hi, James Strachan wrote: I'd have thought a simple file backup of such things would do? If the backup gets trashed, the site would eventually be updated by a quick ping to the PMCs. Not only would a file backup do but it is surely an essential safeguard against certain risks. May as well

Re: Names Projects

2003-08-14 Thread Norm Rupp
Geronimo was the nickname given to Goyathlay of the Bedonkohe Apache by the Mexican government in the late 1800s. It's spanish for Jerome. The man was a celebrity in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, even rode in Teddy Roosevelt's inaugural parade. He's probably not the best

And what of Tomcat?

2003-08-14 Thread John DiMarco
Any background on how this Apache Geronimo project will relate/compete with the Tomcat project? John DiMarco Chief Technology Officer CEDAR Document Technologies http://www.cedardoc.com/ www.cedardoc.com

RE: To those interested in helping out

2003-08-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Please put me into the list. By subscribing to [EMAIL PROTECTED], you put yourself on the list. The project's mailing list is the primary roster and means of communication. To subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] See also: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html

A link to the proposal... (was Re: Project involvement)

2003-08-14 Thread James Strachan
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 10:10 am, Bill de hÓra wrote: Erik Abele wrote: [snipped good suggestions] I'd just add one thing to this. Perhaps it would be good to upload the original proposal that I think (?) Paul Hammant forwarded here - I'd rather linkto/read it from the Apache domain

RE: To those interested in helping out

2003-08-14 Thread Pradeep Kumar
Please count me in. -Original Message- From: N. Alex Rupp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:To those interested in helping out To Henrikh, Rafael, Oreste, Arjun and everyone else who's interested in helping

Re: Project involvement

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Hammant
Tetsuya P.S. Also, I think this page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html is better to be slightly changed. XMLBeans: http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/ ;-) Done. -ph -- http://www.thoughtworks.com - The art of heavy lifting. Home for many Agile practicing, Open Source activists...

Contribute to Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Wei Jiang
Hi All, I am interested in contributing to Geronimo (J2EE) project. We are at http://www.acelet.com providing Super - a suite of J2EE tools, including SuperEnvironment, SuperLogging, SuperPeekPoke, SuperScheduler and SuperStress, supporting JOnAS, Weblogic, Websphere and jboss. If you google for

Participation

2003-08-14 Thread Justin Reed
I am interested in participating in Geronimo. Justin Reed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Geronimo: Sounds like some plans have already been made...

2003-08-14 Thread Henri Yandell
James/Geir need to create a PROPOSAL.html or some such. To do this, they need CVS. To get CVS, they need to get around the -1 on the name from Roy, or just ignore him. What are the incubator rules on -1's in this case? Is Roy's -1 binding? Once the PROPOSAL.html is written, it and STATUS.html

Re: To those interested in helping out

2003-08-14 Thread Song Fu
Please put me into the list. I have 4 years of J2EE and Java experience. Also I am a Sun certified enterprise architect and Java developer (SCEA and SCJD). Best Regards Song Fu N. Alex Rupp wrote: To Henrikh, Rafael, Oreste, Arjun and everyone else who's interested in helping with Geronimo,

Wishing to Join Apache Geronimo Project.

2003-08-14 Thread Jagadheeswari Adhimurthy
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Integrating other open source (Re: Geronimo)

2003-08-14 Thread James Strachan
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 02:23 am, Tim Anderson wrote: Will Geronimo integrate existing OS, or is it intended to have a standalone codebase? It will be integrating existing OS which is license-compatible with Apache. So I think anything which has a normal BSD / ASF style licence should

Re: [geronimo] Core Service Framework (Was: RE: Names Projects)

2003-08-14 Thread James Strachan
Maybe a quicker answer to this thread is - the core Geronimo container is an EJB / MDB container which supports pluggable services via JMX. Thats quite different to the scope of Avalon. (Can you tell I've given up caffeine recently - my brains still a bit fuzzy today :) On Wednesday, August

Re: [VOTE] create a new geronimo@incubator.apache.org mail list

2003-08-14 Thread Mauro Talevi
James, James Strachan wrote: How about [EMAIL PROTECTED] can you also register it with gname.org asap? Cheers, Mauro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Marc Fleury reacts (Fw: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news)

2003-08-14 Thread James Strachan
Please read the website FAQ rather than spread FUD... http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheJ2EE/FAQ On Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 02:33 pm, Vic Cekvenich wrote: Hey, these guys have open source too: http://jcorporate.com/html/products/productsfm.html Lets raid them next, fork

Re: And what of Tomcat?

2003-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 12:45 PM, John DiMarco wrote: Any background on how this Apache Geronimo project will relate/compete with the Tomcat project? Tomcat is a servlet container. Geronimo will need a servlet container as part of the suite. If you think of how JBoss does it, you can

Re: Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
They can read the archives via http://incubator.apache.org/mail/general/ and I think KenCoar has already requested infra team to let it (this list) visible via eyebrowse (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/). -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 5 Aug 2003 23:21:24 +0200 (Subject: Re: Geronimo)

RE: [VOTE] create a new geronimo@incubator.apache.org mail list

2003-08-14 Thread Sander Striker
From: Richard Monson-Haefel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:18 AM Well, I'm pretty ignorant about Apache's ways, but it was my understanding that the original committers would vote in the PMC. Is that correct? Not at this point no. This project starts in the

Re: Update needed to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html (was RE: Project involvement)

2003-08-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Cliff, It has been already updated! ;-) (By Paul) please see: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 23:02:51 -0700 (Subject: Update needed to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html (was RE: Project involvement)) Cliff

How to subscribe properly to Apache Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Kington, Max
Hi there, I'd like to bind to this list, how should I go about it? Regards, Max    http://www.cantor.com CONFIDENTIAL: This e-mail, including its contents and attachments, if any, are confidential. If you are not the named recipient please notify the

Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Aditya Gore
I am looking forward to contributing to this project. When can we expect a mailing list? thanks, :aditya - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Elba/Geronimo = Elmo.

2003-08-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
http://sourceforge.net/projects/elba Is it be safe to assume this is the full up-until-now codebase for geronimo? Andy, As you are well aware, Elba is a fork of JBoss. It is not the Geronimo code. It is not code that is being migrated to Geronimo. They should probably make that what it is

Forrestbot (Re: cvs commit: incubator-site/build/site/skin breadcrumbs.js)

2003-08-14 Thread Jeff Turner
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:18:57PM +0200, Sander Striker wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 2:06 PM jefft 2003/08/08 05:06:01 Modified:build/site/skin breadcrumbs.js Log: Automatic publish at Fri Aug 8 14:05:59

Re: Invitation to participate in Apache J2EE efforts

2003-08-14 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Apache Geronimo has been launched within the Apache Incubator. Interesting. I have not seen a single mail on [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioning such a project before. The exception is a mail containing a proposal sent by Geir Magnusson Jr. which arrived 9 minutes earlier. Andreas

Re: Updating the incubator site (Re: [geronimo] geronimo website)

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Hammant
I've added a page documenting this. When the site refreshes, it will appear at: http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html Site now updated. -ph Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE

About the Apache J2EE

2003-08-14 Thread mohammad nabil
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geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Priyank RASTOGI
Hi, I would be interested in knowing more about Geromino. What do I need to do if I want to get involved and become a contributer?

Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Tim Anderson
Will Geronimo integrate existing OS, or is it intended to have a standalone codebase? -Tim Committer, OpenJMS (http://openjms.sf.net), JMS CTS (http://jmscts.sf.net) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: Project involvement

2003-08-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Okay, I've done. please confirm: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/elsewhere.html#20030805.1 -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. Also, I think this page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html is better to be slightly changed. XMLBeans: http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/ ;-) On Wed, 06

Re: Names Projects

2003-08-14 Thread Sean Hamblett
Isn't Geronimo something you yell when you jump out of a plane? Sean Aaron Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the naming front, IMHO the best we came up with for the same sort of project back in the days of Olliance was Jarbanzo, but we eventually settled on something lame like Enterprise

Re: [VOTE] create a new geronimo@incubator.apache.org mail list

2003-08-14 Thread Vinay Chandran
+1 Regards, Vinay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. Also, I'd like to volunteer to change (and add) to http://jakarta.apache.org/ (incubator section) and http://jakarta.apache.org/site/elsewhere.html#20030805.1

more info on the on going project on J2EE Stack

2003-08-14 Thread Harihar Prasad
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Re: the name, Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Jason Dillon wrote: I would avoid any thing so closely related to J2EE... besides Geronimo is/will be much more than a J2EE server ;-) +1 to Geronimo. It contains both Apache, a soft-G [thus a sly J] and is easy to say and remember. Good name. Hen

Re: JBoss people are asking to review the code

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 01:28:08PM -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Ceki [iso-8859-1] Gülcü wrote: Hello, I have received a request from Sacha Labourey (from the JBoss group) to review the existing code in our J2EE project to check whether there any IP issues with

Re: Project involvement

2003-08-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Aaron Bannert wrote, On 07/08/2003 19.41: I like that one, although it does a lot like June. I guess that's not a problem. +1 Hey, that's my brother's name, it's not fair! ;-P How about Ken, man who respects the law? Or my sister's name Yuki, snow? ;-) PS: for the Japanese friends, we could call

Re: [PROPOSAL] An Apache J2EE server project

2003-08-14 Thread Vic Cekvenich
(Note: I am not a comitter, but a user) -1 Here is why: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg03376.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg03376.html And I am with JBoss on this, you can't just fork the code. (http://sourceforge.net/projects/elba ) No need for

Re: [geronimo] Core Service Framework (Was: RE: Names Projects)

2003-08-14 Thread James Strachan
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 05:55 pm, Tim Urberg wrote: A J2EE container is a little different from an Avalon container. Avalon is a generic service/component framework. The core Geronimo container is an optimised J2EE container developed from a great deal of experience and use of JBoss,

Re: [FAQ] Frequently Asked Questions

2003-08-14 Thread Leo Simons
The private e-mail I got this afternoon pointing me at geronimo was along the line of so this is the @#%*(@ so-called OS organisation you're a [EMAIL PROTECTED])#(!) part of; ripping of and $%(^@ destroying JBoss. For @#*(#$ sake, why %)@)(!* %*(@*## another open source project like that???.

Re: where should the maven-generated website go?

2003-08-14 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
James Strachan wrote: The only disagreement is - should all this dynamically generated stuff go into CVS or not. It seems silly to put it into CVS - since its trivial to regenerate the site at any point using Maven. Its worse than saying lets check every version of a jar into CVS. we had

RE: [FAQ] Frequently Asked Questions

2003-08-14 Thread a . vasconcelos
Noel, Not sure what you meant on the first email by ... add themselves to something other than the mailing list It could be cause my registration to the mailing list was done from home where my id shows as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I am posting these messages from work where the id

first-time commits to incubator modules

2003-08-14 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
if you've never committed anything to the incubator cvs module before, or aren't sure, when you do a commit please start with just ONE and wait for it to come through on the mailing list. i'm having to moderate over 200 commit messages from jstrachan because they all came in before i could say

Re: [VOTE] create a new geronimo@incubator.apache.org mail list

2003-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
Do we really need a vote on this? Seems like the only thing we can do... +1 On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 06:48 AM, James Strachan wrote: Wow. There's already been a ton of mail and its not even been 24 hours of being public yet. I expect the traffic to keep rising, especially when the

Re: JBoss people are asking to review the code

2003-08-14 Thread Jason Dillon
You should check with Dain and Jeremy, I believe they have looked over these issues. --jason On Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 12:26 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote: Hello, I have received a request from Sacha Labourey (from the JBoss group) to review the existing code in our J2EE project to check

RE: Names Projects

2003-08-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
What is really interesting about the Geronimo name, which I like BTW, is that everyone remembers it. Everyone comments on it one way or another. Its a good name. I say we stick with it. There are plenty of other names. JEEP, JPAE (Java Platform Apache Edition), or whatever. There is a great

RE: [geronimo] Me, James and javaMail

2003-08-14 Thread Danny Angus
What I would like to see for a future release of Geronimo is an E-Mail Message Bean container. That is, a Message Bean that can process incoming e-mails. We already have the Mailet API see: http://james.apache.org I'd be more interested in adapting this, and implementing a mailet container

Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread dufresne68
I am very interested in the Geronimo project and perhaps participating in the development effort. Please keep me updated. Jeff Dufresne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

RE: To those interested in helping out

2003-08-14 Thread Rob
Perhaps since the traffic on this list isn't too large, you can post a How to Help Out every day, or every other day. Or what about putting it on the footer of the mailing list? So add the line I marked: To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

RE: where should the maven-generated website go?

2003-08-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
James Strachan wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: One of the reasons for putting dynamically generated artifacts into CVS is that in the event of a recovery situation, CVS is on one server, and the web sites are on another, so recovery can be relatively quick. It is unreasonable to assume

Re: Updating the incubator site

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:34:49AM +0200, Sander Striker wrote: From: Greg Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 1:39 AM On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:01:53PM +0100, Paul Hammant wrote: Greg, Paul -- please set your umask [on login] to enable group-write on

Re: [VOTE] create a new geronimo@incubator.apache.org mail list

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Hammant
Richard , I think the vote is restricted to PMC and board members (my +1 for the former) rather than committers (in waiting or otherwise), but welcome aboard anyway :-) - Paul +1 James Strachan wrote: Wow. There's already been a ton of mail and its not even been 24 hours of being public

Re: JBoss people are asking to review the code

2003-08-14 Thread James Strachan
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 06:26 pm, Ceki Gülcü wrote: Hello, I have received a request from Sacha Labourey (from the JBoss group) to review the existing code in our J2EE project to check whether there any IP issues with respect to the JBoss group. Sounds like a reasonable request to

Re: Marc Fleury reacts (Fw: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news)

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Wilkins
Vic Cekvenich wrote: It makes little sense to me to do this in this way... fine... then put your efforts somewhere that it does make sense to you. There are obviously many people here for whom it does makes sense. We don't need 100% of developers - not even a majority. All we need is a healthy

Re: [VOTE] create a new geronimo@incubator.apache.org mail list

2003-08-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 06:48 PM, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 03:48 AM, James Strachan wrote: So to avoid drowning out other general-incubator discussions and to help keep the noise down for folks who only want to keep track of geronimo I' d like to propose a

Re: Geronimo is an EJB container?

2003-08-14 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 02:21 PM, Aaron Mulder wrote: Maybe it's just me, but I thought it was a _weakness_ of JBoss that the EJB container is built in. Why is Geronimo an extensible EJB container, instead of a J2EE server framework that accepts a generic EJB container as well as a

Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

2003-08-14 Thread Jack Frosch
Open source projects typically solve a problem not addressed by commercial vendors, even if the problem is just the price being charged for the commercial solution. Yet we already have a very popular, open-source J2EE container in JBoss. Why must people's egos get in the way of common sense in

Re: To those interested in helping out

2003-08-14 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
an awful lot of the 'me too' traffic on [EMAIL PROTECTED] came from messages i moderated through. in other words, the senders are likely *not* on the general@ list. i'd like to suggest that a how-to-subscribe-to-the-right-list(s) message be sent to the same distributions as the message that

Re: Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

2003-08-14 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Quoting Greg Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think there is strength in diversity - there are lots of models out there and people can try them all. True - to a certain degree. As almost everything in life. :-) The history of the attempts, failures and otherwise is spread over many public and

Re: Project involvement

2003-08-14 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 09:23 PM, tetsuo wrote: By the way, I really didn't like the name, Geronimo. It remembers me of someone falling from a cliff :) Is there any J word that is still unused? Like - Jubilee - Jun (japanese for excellence, genius; pure, innocent; conform to,

Apache Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Sangjin Lee
To Whom It May Concern: I'm interested in the Apache J2EE project and possibly participating actively in it in the future. Could you please send me some pointers on this? Thanks much. Sangjin = Sangjin Lee Lead Software Engineer Siebel Systems, Inc. (w) 650.477.4016

RE: Geronimo: Sounds like some plans have already been made...

2003-08-14 Thread Jonathan Duty
When looking for decisions/plans that have been made/approved we should look to the Wiki boards and not the mailing list. That way we will be able to distinguish between people posting ideas and decisions that have been approved and are ready to be implemented. Also, I would hate to have to sort

Geronimo Information - Please Read

2003-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
More information is now available on the Geronimo site http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html There are links to the new -dev and -cvs lists, the Wiki, and the CVS. Please read and come join us on the geronimo-dev list. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: Geronimo mailing lists and CVS

2003-08-14 Thread Aditya Gore
Thanks! Greg Stein wrote: Hmm. I think somebody needs to update an rsync configuration file for that (which requires root privs, which I don't have). I'll follow up on it, thanks. Cheers, -g On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 01:51:53PM +0530, Aditya Gore wrote: Will the module also be available via

Re: [VOTE] create a new geronimo@incubator.apache.org mail list

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Monson-Haefel
Thanks for the clarifications. As I said, I'm pretty ignorant about the Apache Software Foundation, but I'm learning. Sander Striker wrote: From: Richard Monson-Haefel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:18 AM Well, I'm pretty ignorant about Apache's ways, but it

Re: Names Projects

2003-08-14 Thread Jason Dillon
Um, if we have to pick another name please lets choose something shorter. --jason On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 10:31 PM, Michael Vasiliou wrote: What about something like: Gossamer It's fairly straight forward for those who know what it means. And those who don't know what it means

RE: Apache Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread kamran
Hi, My name is Kamran Khan, I have over 6 years of experience in J2EE. I would like to participate in the development and design of Apache Geronimo. Thanks Kamran Khan

Re: To those interested in helping out

2003-08-14 Thread Jaspreet S Jodhka
Count me in. I want to help too. Jaspreet --- N. Alex Rupp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Henrikh, Rafael, Oreste, Arjun and everyone else who's interested in helping with Geronimo, First, thank you. We're all excited about the number of people willing to help with the project. With this

Re: where should the maven-generated website go?

2003-08-14 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: James Strachan wrote: The only disagreement is - should all this dynamically generated stuff go into CVS or not. It seems silly to put it into CVS - since its trivial to regenerate the site at any point using Maven. Its worse than saying lets check every version

Would love to participate

2003-08-14 Thread Venkatachalam, Chendil
Hi, I would love to contribute to this project. I have never been part of any open source project. I want to see what its like and also maybe do something worthwhile before I burnout and leave the profession. I have over Eight years in the industry. I began with VC++, moved to Oracle PL/SQL on

PMC Chair [WAS *REMINDER* last call for july newsletter]

2003-08-14 Thread Berin Lautenbach
Sander Striker wrote: Technically Jim is still the Incubator PMC Chair. The vote on a new chair wasn't ended or tallied yet and no board resolution has been passed. Until that happens there is no news. Didn't realise a vote had occurred, although I saw a couple of people put their names

Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

2003-08-14 Thread Jack Frosch
Open source projects typically solve a problem not addressed by commercial vendors, even if the problem is just the price being charged for the commercial solution. Yet we already have a very popular, open-source J2EE container in JBoss. Why must people's egos get in the way of common sense in

Re: Marc Fleury reacts (Fw: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news)

2003-08-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 06:23 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: On 8/10/03 5:30 AM, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 03:46 AM, Vic Cekvenich wrote: 2. tapestry lacked active support from apache members. That is NOT true. no offense intended andrew.

Re: Current License Grant document

2003-08-14 Thread Leo Simons
didn't get a response, did you? http://incubator.apache.org/forms/ASF_Contributor_License_2_form.pdf is the one linked to from http://www.apache.org/foundation/roles.html and its also the one Jim Jagielski referred us to a while back when doing a checkup on missing CLAs. - Leo Ted Leung

Re: Cron job to update incubator docs?

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:15:40PM -0700, Jeff Turner wrote: Hi, For the xml-site, avalon-site (and I assume jakarta-site?) modules, there is a cron job that synchronises daedalus with the CVS module contents. I think this is Sam Ruby's script. Does anyone know if a similar cron job

Re: Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

2003-08-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Jochen, you wrote: Quoting Greg Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: However, open process is at least as important as open software. True. Apache has a totally open development process. Agreed. But the ASF has just given a bad example on this (IMO). Following the discussions on Geronimo in the last

Geronimo is an EJB container?

2003-08-14 Thread Aaron Mulder
Maybe it's just me, but I thought it was a _weakness_ of JBoss that the EJB container is built in. Why is Geronimo an extensible EJB container, instead of a J2EE server framework that accepts a generic EJB container as well as a generic servlet container, generic mail service, etc? Aaron

Re: where should the maven-generated website go?

2003-08-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
James Strachan wrote, On 11/08/2003 12.31: ... I'm wondering if it'd be OK to create a directory (say) inside the incubator website tree. e.g. /www/incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo/... then I can update this website automatically every day from CVS. Incubator projects can create their

Cron job to update incubator docs?

2003-08-14 Thread Jeff Turner
Hi, For the xml-site, avalon-site (and I assume jakarta-site?) modules, there is a cron job that synchronises daedalus with the CVS module contents. I think this is Sam Ruby's script. Does anyone know if a similar cron job exists for incubator-site, or does someone have to do a 'cvs update' in

Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Shravan Bharathulwar
Hi, I am interested in contributing to the Apache Geronimo project. How do I start? regards, Shravan Bharathulwar Analyst - Investment Banking CoE TechSpan India Pvt. Ltd. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Interested in becoming involved in Apache Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Tony Obermeit
Where can I find more information? thanks Tony Obermeit - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Marc Fleury reacts (Fw: [JBoss-dev] July 2003 news)

2003-08-14 Thread N. Alex Rupp
James Strachan wrote: Please read the website FAQ rather than spread FUD... http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheJ2EE/FAQ Agreed, only FUD isn't spread. It's slung. Thus, the FUD slinger. ;-) -- N. Alex Rupp ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Mauricio Santacruz

Re: [FAQ] Frequently Asked Questions

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 06:21:12PM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote: ... LOL Yes. Actually. I wrote several such things, and with permission, I'll be happy to post or contribute. I'm not an official member of this incubation team, but Geir and James both have access to my writings, and can use

Update needed to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html (was RE: Project involvement)

2003-08-14 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:52 PM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: snip/ P.S. Also, I think this page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html is better to be slightly changed. XMLBeans: http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/ ;-) Good catch, Tetsuya -- thanks! And if whoever is able to make

Re: Updating the incubator site (Re: [geronimo] geronimo website)

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Hammant
Geir, http://incubator.apache.org/updating_docs.html Site now updated. Thx - problem is, I didn't check in the html and pdf - I figured that you'd use forrest to regen. Can it be done again? This time genned and updated. Great work. Sigh, my hastily penned words did not last long! -

Re: Why solve a problem that doesn't exist?

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Wilkins
Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Quoting Greg Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: However, open process is at least as important as open software. Agreed. But the ASF has just given a bad example on this (IMO). Following the discussions on Geronimo in the last days, my impression is that a lot of decisions (in

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2003-08-14 Thread Joshua Pritt
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[FAQ] Frequently Asked Questions

2003-08-14 Thread N. Alex Rupp
Hello, everyone Dain, Jeremy and I are putting together a Frequently Asked Questions page and I'd be happy to include any of your questions about Geronimo. So please, feel free to reply to this thread with whatever questions you might have. We'll do our best to get them organized and online in

J2EE efforts

2003-08-14 Thread Pathuri, Venkat
Hi, I find this really exiting news and so far was wondering why Apache never got into J2EE arena. I am a Sun certified Java Programmer and Developer with over 6 years of enterprise level java systems development exposure and currently working as a lead architect. I would like to participate

Re: Elba/Geronimo = Elmo.

2003-08-14 Thread James Strachan
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 08:20 pm, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: A quick look on sourceforge under some of the proposed committers' logins shall reveal that they are all members of this project: http://sourceforge.net/projects/elba Is it be safe to assume this is the full up-until-now

request for feedback on usage log management

2003-08-14 Thread Jeff Ubois
Hi, The EFF is developing a Usage Log Management Tool (ULMT) that will help web site owners manage the configuration and retention of server logs in ways that help ensure end user privacy and reduce legal risks associated with log file data. The design is based on ideas developed at the Usage

Re: CLA v1, WAS: RE: cvs commit: incubator-site/src/documentation/content/forms ASF_Contributor_License_1_form.pdf ASF_Contributor_License_2.pdf ASF_Contributor_License_2.txt ASF_Contributor_License_2_form.pdf

2003-08-14 Thread Jeff Turner
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Greg Stein wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:03:23AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 03:36:56PM +0200, Sander Striker wrote: Hi, From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:14 PM

Contributing to Geronimo J2EE project

2003-08-14 Thread Alberto Rodriguez Galdo
Hi, I have more than 3 years J2EE experience, mostly EJB, JMS and Web services. I would love to help building the geronimo project, please let me know. Please send any details to the following email address (subtitute _at_ for @): argaldo _at_ mundo-r.com

Re: cvs commit: incubator-site/build/site/projects/geronimo/modules/core/clover/javax/enterprise/deploy/spi/status - New directory

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:44:44PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jstrachan2003/08/14 05:44:44 incubator-site/build/site/projects/geronimo/modules/core/clover/javax/enterprise/deploy/spi/status - New directory Man oh man... I really hate CVS thinking each new dir is a separate

RE: Updating the incubator site

2003-08-14 Thread Sander Striker
From: Greg Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 1:39 AM On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:01:53PM +0100, Paul Hammant wrote: Greg, Paul -- please set your umask [on login] to enable group-write on the files in /www/incubator.apache.org. It is making it very difficult

Re: Project involvement

2003-08-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
I have the same opinion, however, I am not a committer of incubator project. The only one thing I could do was to put this news to jakarta website. (With the mail address for the subscription) http://jakarta.apache.org/ http://jakarta.apache.org/site/elsewhere.html#20030805.1 It will be shown

Re: Updating the incubator site

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:01:53PM +0100, Paul Hammant wrote: Greg, Paul -- please set your umask [on login] to enable group-write on the files in /www/incubator.apache.org. It is making it very difficult for others to update the site :-) I've 755'd all in my name. I think that is

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