Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread James Carman
How about ErroRat, a play on Ararat? On 10/24/07, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like plain rat, and since rat is common word I doubt we have to worry about trademark violations. I also don't confuse it with any other projects in the java space.. so I think it's ok. On 10/23/07,

Re: Graduate Tuscany as a top level project

2007-10-25 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 10/24/07, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, Thanks for this feedback. I think you raise a good point that one of the goals of community building is discovering a community's true synergies and strengths and that sometimes the right outcome is not a single community. Where

Re: [Proposal Draft]BlueSky-Wish to ADD

2007-10-25 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, Cool proposal! I have a couple of questions, just out of curiosity. On 10/24/07, Ting Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in China. More than 40,000 students has benefited from it. Our developing website is http://202.117.16.176/ , source code is also available. All source code of this

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Kevan Miller
On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:59 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal has been stable for a while now so i'd like to throw it open to final scrutiny before i call for a VOTE. (please don't vote yet ;-) the name RAT has been discussed previously - see

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hey, On 10/25/07, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody give me guidance on how unique names need to be? For My take on it (IANAL) is that uniqueness doesn't matter. In fact, that's why there's already N1 projects named Composer as you noted in your example. Project name

RE: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
RAT is a good name and popular but i'm still a little concerned that there are existing open source projects named RAT as well as commercial software containing RAT in their name. aRATicate, known as RAT for short? ;-) --- Noel

Re: 'Handling Crypto..' - River project

2007-10-25 Thread Carl Trieloff
Top-posting as it is related but different question. I would like to contribute to the apache legal questions/ answers / discussing. What is the process for joining apache legal? (I am not a lawyer) Carl. William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Keep in mind, Sun stuff wasn't necessarily handled under

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread sebb
RATify? Or rat as in the verb - to rat on something ;-) On 25/10/2007, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RAT is a good name and popular but i'm still a little concerned that there are existing open source projects named RAT as well as commercial software containing RAT in their

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On 10/25/07, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RATify? that sounds cool(er) ;) Or rat as in the verb - to rat on something ;-) On 25/10/2007, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RAT is a good name and popular but i'm still a little concerned that there are existing open source

RE: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Yoav Shapira wrote: Project name uniqueness should not be a criterion for Incubator acceptance. I would even go further and say clear copyright infringement is probably the only reason to ask for a name change. You mean trademark? :-) --- Noel

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Davanum Srinivas
RATify ratifies Artifacts? :) cool! -- dims On 10/25/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/07, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RATify? that sounds cool(er) ;) Or rat as in the verb - to rat on something ;-) On 25/10/2007, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Craig L Russell
Personally, I prefer RAT over RATify regardless of the capitalization. Let's leave something to the imagination... But in the end, I'll defer to the authors. Craig On Oct 25, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: RATify ratifies Artifacts? :) cool! -- dims On 10/25/07, Matthias

Re: [Proposal Draft]BlueSky-Wish to ADD

2007-10-25 Thread Filip at Apache
Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, Cool proposal! I have a couple of questions, just out of curiosity. On 10/24/07, Ting Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in China. More than 40,000 students has benefited from it. Our developing website is http://202.117.16.176/ , source code is also available. All

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 10/25/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I prefer RAT over RATify regardless of the capitalization. Let's leave something to the imagination... Same here, Apache RAT sounds good to me. -Bertrand - To

Re: 'Handling Crypto..' - River project

2007-10-25 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Carl Trieloff wrote: Top-posting as it is related but different question. I would like to contribute to the apache legal questions/ answers / discussing. What is the process for joining apache legal? Answered this on legal-discuss. Please don't xpost internal and public discussion lists.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Deepal jayasinghe
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: Project name uniqueness should not be a criterion for Incubator acceptance. I would even go further and say clear copyright infringement is probably the only reason to ask for a name change. You mean trademark? :-) Noel , I cam

[apachecon eu'08] Guide to successful incubation at the ASF

2007-10-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I just sent a proposal to the apache con CFP for a presentation on successful incubation. Unfortunately the title was submitted wrongly, and the apache con site doesn't allow editing of the title of a submitted proposal. Title: Guide to successful graduation at the ASF (should be: Guide to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 10/25/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: Project name uniqueness should not be a criterion for Incubator acceptance. I would even go further and say clear copyright infringement is probably the only reason to ask for a name change. You mean

Re: [Proposal Draft]BlueSky-Wish to ADD

2007-10-25 Thread Bill Stoddard
Ni Hao, Ting Peng This is an interesting project. I'm happy to be a mentor if the project is accepted for incubation. How familiar is the Bluesky team with open source development at the Apache Software Foundation? I'll be in Beijing the week of 12/3. If you are interested, I can fly to

Re: [Proposal Draft]BlueSky-Wish to ADD

2007-10-25 Thread Alex Karasulu
Hello, I just wanted to chime in a little bit about the importance of a project like this. Although I don't have enough time to properly mentor this project I hope others will think about doing so. I even debated why I was spending the time writing this email. If others do not volunteer I will

Re: [Proposal Draft]BlueSky-Wish to ADD

2007-10-25 Thread Raymond Feng
Hi, Alex. I think you have made quite a few very good points here. Just speaking for us who work on the open source projects, communication is key to collaboration which is critical for a healthy community. An open source platform like BlueSky will be of great help to bring the developers