On Aug 19, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
How's this for writing down the rules:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#best-practice-license
I'd rearrange the wording of the second paragraph:
All the licenses on all the files to be included within the package
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> From: Ted Leung
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:34:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> > Why do we need someone to dig up a URL to believe what infrastru
On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
- Original Message
From: Ted Leung
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:06:08 PM
Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly
On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
when we can't even agree /
- Original Message
> From: Ted Leung
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:06:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly
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>
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
> >> when we can't even agree / document what that *right* way is.
Hi Ted,
On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Ted Leung wrote:
On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:01 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Exactly. The incubator enforces Best Practices even when these are
poorly
documented or incomplete, and discusses why they should be
normalized.
And how is this PMC supposed
On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
when we can't even agree / document what that *right* way is.
We who? Robert has done an outstanding job of documenting what the
right
way is. The only people who can't agree to it are people who refuse
to
acknowledge his work on this is
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> From: Ted Leung
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:15:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly
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>
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:01 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>
> > Exactly. The incubator enforces Best Practices even w
Ted Leung wrote:
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> On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:01 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>
>> I have a lot of problems with saying
>
>> In the meantime, we have dozens of projects who are here to learn the
>> *right* way to build code and communities
>
> when we can't even agree / document what that *rig
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> From: "William A. Rowe, Jr."
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:01:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly
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> Craig L Russell wrote:
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2009, at 12:23 AM, ant elder wrote:
> >>
> >> +1. And i'd go furth
On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:01 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Exactly. The incubator enforces Best Practices even when these are
poorly
documented or incomplete, and discusses why they should be normalized.
And how is this PMC supposed to enforce something which might be
incomplete or contra
On Aug 19, 2009, at 12:23 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
Anyone who easily gets frustrated with objections and confrontations
should not be here at the Incubator anyway, that's my advice.
I'm disappointed by this attitude. We should not be giving podlings
a pass on violations of policy. Bu
Craig L Russell wrote:
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> On Aug 19, 2009, at 12:23 AM, ant elder wrote:
>>
>> +1. And i'd go further and say while the ASF does not have a clear
>> policy on something that is an ASF issue then the IPMC should not be
>> trying to make up our own, and, we should be trying to shield
>> poddlings f
Hi Ant,
On Aug 19, 2009, at 12:23 AM, ant elder wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Ralph Goers> wrote:
On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
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From: Ralph Goers
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:00:00 PM
Subject: Re
- Original Message
> From: Craig L Russell
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:19:09 PM
> Subject: Re: s/distribution/package/g (mostly) on releasemanagement.xml
>
> Unfortunately, Java has a special meaning for the term "package".
>
> Personally, I
Unfortunately, Java has a special meaning for the term "package".
Personally, I'd use the term "artifact" to describe anything that is
released, can be checksummed and for which a detached signature can be
created.
Craig
On Aug 18, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
In order to bring
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> From: Jonathan Ellis
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:05:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [VOTE RESULTS] was: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-beta1
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Joe Schaeferwrote:
> >> The relevant commit is r665124
+1 from me.
thanks,
dims
On 08/19/2009 08:12 AM, sebb wrote:
On 19/08/2009, Snitkovsky, Martin wrote:
The Wink community voted on and approved the release of Apache Wink 0.1
The voting mail thread can be viewed at: http://tiny.cc/es4Zu
We would now like to request the approval of the
> wink-0.1-incubating-*.jar NOTICE file that says "Apache Wink WebDav" instead
> of "Apache Wink" ...
Agree - this is definitely not a release blocker ... we will fix it in the next
release
--martin
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From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2
On 19/08/2009, Snitkovsky, Martin wrote:
> The Wink community voted on and approved the release of Apache Wink 0.1
>
> The voting mail thread can be viewed at: http://tiny.cc/es4Zu
>
>
>
> We would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this
> release.
>
>
>
> The Maven stag
This vote will be open for 72 hours.
Thanks,
Martin
From: Snitkovsky, Martin
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:30 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: 'wink-...@incubator.apache.org'
Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache Wink 0.1 (RC-3)
The Wink community voted on and approved the release of Apa
The Wink community voted on and approved the release of Apache Wink 0.1
The voting mail thread can be viewed at: http://tiny.cc/es4Zu
We would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this release.
The Maven staging area is at:
https://repository.apache.org/content/reposito
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:52 AM, sebb wrote:
>>> And I don't mean to imply that you are suggesting that a
>>> release should be blocked due to that.
>>>
>>
>> Not quite, but I am saying that the release should be blocked until
>> the LICENS
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Bernd
Fondermann wrote:
> Anyone who easily gets frustrated with objections and confrontations
> should not be here at the Incubator anyway, that's my advice.
Interesting viewpoint. I think it was such that led to Avalon's collapse...
Cheers
--
Niclas Hedhman,
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:52 AM, sebb wrote:
>> And I don't mean to imply that you are suggesting that a
>> release should be blocked due to that.
>>
>
> Not quite, but I am saying that the release should be blocked until
> the LICENSE file either contains a copy of each different licence or
> has
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
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> On Aug 18, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Janne Jalkanen wrote:
>
>>> I remember when the policy regarding @author tags was set several years
>>> ago. Plenty of projects were using them to identify developers.
>>
>> Is this documented anywhere? All I cou
On Aug 18, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Janne Jalkanen wrote:
I remember when the policy regarding @author tags was set several
years ago. Plenty of projects were using them to identify developers.
Is this documented anywhere? All I could find was a number of
discussions referencing such a decision
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>> The relevant commit is r665124- Simon Forman doesn't yet have an ICLA
>> on file with the ASF.
>
> I should probably explain the issue in more detail, since only the handful
> of people who have read the Facebook CCLA as it pertains to Thrift
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 17:53, ant elder wrote:
> For a while now on general@ we've had people come along during a
> poddling release votes and raise issues about things that aren't
> backed up by clear ASF policy or reasonably obvious consensus in
> behaviour of existing TLPs. Often poddlings just
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
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> On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
>> - Original Message
>>
>>> From: Ralph Goers
>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:00:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Making up policy on the fly
>>>
>>>
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